Author Topic: Double shot replacements ROUND TWO! (Read 150633 times)

Doober · « **Reply #50 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 20:39:03 »

Quote from: chongyixiong;245694

I second the Colemak set but I would just be as happy for a standard Filco set - just like last time.

How was it possible that I missed the last one.. the Dolch colour scheme and the bigass centered typewrinter font is so pretty - for me.

Definitely in for one, whichever way it goes.. no pink, green, purple or yellow is my only request.

Im a little confused with this at this stage, but basically when it gets down to brass tax of taking the pre-orders i will be down for probably anything in the Filco Layout. I will be ordering a Filco Brown Tenkeyless if Elite ever gets the damn things back in stock.

-doober

Hak Foo · « **Reply #51 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:15:37 »

Quote from: 7bit;245582

would be great to have some additional keys for the current set in the same color scheme.

OK, go ahead!

Italic sucks for keyboard-labeling. It makes the whole thing asymmetric.

Symmetry is perfection!

(insert the image of Death the Kid from Soul Eater I can't find now)

I'd like to see more use of the key edges. Why does only PrintScreen and Pause get the love here?

I could see:

Indicators of international mappings (for AltGr users)
Hangul, Katakana, or Bopomofo

Not interested in a set-- one $50 plus set per year is my budget limit-- but how about, instead of Cherry, go for fits-on-two-piece-IBM stems?

Hak Foo · « **Reply #52 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:25:01 »

Quote from: zefrer;245592

Blood red keycaps for the alphabetic keys?

BTDT.

What's cool is two-tone red-- my poor work board has been so dyed-- gets lots of attention.

Sam · « **Reply #53 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:33:51 »

Quote from: Hak Foo;245764

Not interested in a set-- one $50 plus set per year is my budget limit-- but how about, instead of Cherry, go for fits-on-two-piece-IBM stems?

Agree. I bought a set of the first round, but don't even own a keyboard they can fit on, and actually don't know if I'll ever. If not, it'll just sit boxed up. Now an IBM set, that I would actually use. If anyone did one though, I'd much prefer a cupped keycap, to give it that old Selectric look. But I'm assuming it would cost a lot in setup charges, being I don't think Signature has any molds for that, nor do I doubt anyone else does.

Grimey · « **Reply #54 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:33:58 »

A new lurker here brought out by these possibilities. I would be in for a key set for either blanks or non-blacks. Any comical special keys are interesting as well.

Thanks for looking into this.

Lurker => Grimey

jmpespxoreax · « **Reply #55 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:37:57 »

Black on dark grey, like the HHKB, is an awesome color scheme:

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/proddata/images/th/pdkb400b_full_th0x0.jpg

panda-R · « **Reply #56 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 22:40:23 »

imma interested in DOLCH like the first order... too bad i couldn't get a set

steeef · « **Reply #57 on:** Thu, 11 November 2010, 23:25:40 »

Quote from: panda-R;245788

imma interested in DOLCH like the first order... too bad i couldn't get a set

Ditto. I'd definitely be interested in the same lettering. Not too picky about the extras.

Laggy-gaga · « **Reply #58 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 01:03:30 »

maybe some apple-white
like the set in south korean

RoboKrikit · « **Reply #59 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 01:35:02 »

Can they do colored letters on black?

How'bout glow-in-the-dark plastic for the letters?

Or maybe IBM 'Think' style keys with gray function/cluster keys, and colored Enter keys?

InSanCen · « **Reply #60 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 01:39:42 »

Much as I love the idea, and applaud you for doing it, I'm saving for ClickClack's keyset. And yes, I know it will be far more expensive. Either that, or I learn to do it myself.

sixty · « **Reply #61 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 04:17:35 »

For those who keep asking about Topre keys from Signature Plastics... the tooling setup for a run of Topre keys is US$ 80000, I am serious.

db_Iodine · « **Reply #62 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 07:35:38 »

I'd be interested in a full 104-key layout with some novelty keys (trollface esc is an amazing idea) and the international boost pack (tall enter, narrow left shift etc)

zefrer · « **Reply #63 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 07:44:03 »

Topre caps are not going to happen, WhiteRice asked them last time. Too expensive, as sixty said.

I'd like to see one color on alphabetic keys and one color for modifiers etc. Yellow or red on alphas and dark grey or black on modifiers would look great on a black keyboard frame I think.

db_Iodine · « **Reply #64 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 07:53:34 »

Quote from: RoboKrikit;245826

Or maybe IBM 'Think' style keys with gray function/cluster keys, and colored Enter keys?

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The IBM style of coloring shown there would definitely be interesting.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #65 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 07:55:49 »

I think the trollface ESC cap is a fantastic idea and it'd look great.

Not 100% sure on the rest, but we'll see what pans out.

Sam · « **Reply #66 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:08:27 »

Quote from: sixty;245843

For those who keep asking about Topre keys from Signature Plastics... the tooling setup for a run of Topre keys is US$ 80000, I am serious.

I don't doubt it for a second. Our company regularly pays large sums for tooling costs for plastic cases. The setup for even simple cases seem to cost at a minimum US$25,000. Most average people who know nothing about manufacturing plastics never consider the setup costs in making these cheap plastic components. Basically, for a small group buy, you have to forget about doing anything custom that the plastic company isn't already setup to do.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #67 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 08:56:36 »

I don't think trollface is very recognizable when inverted. But I think just putting it on a black background works pretty well. Of course, with dark legends on light colored keys it'll look just fine as is.

My only concern is the amount of detail that can be reproduced with the double-shot process.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #68 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 09:39:30 »

OCN's keycaps came out pretty well, detail looks good. May want to ask Signature though.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #69 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 09:45:25 »

Yeah, the OCN keys were sorta my reference for what kind of artwork will work -- you can see that the tips of the flames are rounded whereas they aren't in the original logo. The lines in trollface's forhead are finer than any details in the OCN logo for instance. But I'm e-mailing signature to see what they say.

guilleguillaume · « **Reply #70 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 10:40:44 »

I'm with Ripster idea, Awesome Face looks cooler than a troll face.

strikeme · « **Reply #71 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 13:17:57 »

I would be interested in keycaps with bright colors.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #72 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 13:51:59 »

Those aren't the DCS key family though; their profile is dissimilar from the usual cylindrical shape. I expect that if we ordered custom keys in the same family as the "Kiss my ass!" key they'd be the same thickness.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #73 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 15:15:56 »

Awesome face or trollface? Why not both? I say we get a full novelty set for the ESC/Function row going.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #74 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 15:27:47 »

Each one is probably going to translate into expensive retooling costs. It's my understanding that the OCN keys at $5 per key are being sold at a loss. A set with trollface guy, awesome guy, **** yeah guy, rage guy, etc. could get very expensive.

I'm pretty hung-up on trollface myself, but awesome guy is simpler artwork, so it may end up working a lot better.

I've emailed signature to test the waters, but I guess they're not open on Fridays.

VentiLator · « **Reply #75 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 17:13:19 »

I'd definitely be in for a cool/trollface.

celery · « **Reply #76 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 18:21:52 »

I threw together some color ideas:

Similar to the last two tone, just in green and black. I know most of us have black keyboards, but I think this would look nice on a white shell.

I saw some interest in those yellow keycaps, so here's one to turn your keyboard into a bee. It's stripey on the alphanumeric block, though the keyboard template I "borrowed" (thanks google images) doesn't match up exactly with a real layout. It can probably be tweaked if we're interested in more of a checkering effect.

EDIT: I think it would be cool to have yellow legends on the black keys, but there's only so much you can do with mspaint.

Something more abstract, just to think about.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #77 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 18:30:28 »

That bumble bee layout is an awesome optical illusion. Think that would translate to reality?

celery · « **Reply #78 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 19:00:08 »

It would be a bonus; might help hide any crooked switches.Though apparently the color in between the blocks is important too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caf%C3%A9_wall_illusion

This is where those colored plates become useful...

microsoft windows · « **Reply #79 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 19:03:27 »

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;245486

Some ideas for a windows alternative

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Probably the easiest way to make a "unisex" Windows key would be just to put nothing there. Or maybe a little dome or something.

2084 · « **Reply #80 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 19:26:58 »

I'd rather not have distinctive color difference if they don't serve a function. But I'd be ok colored rows for touch typing or anything that has a purpose like wasd or modifier keys etc.

Kaishi · « **Reply #81 on:** Fri, 12 November 2010, 19:41:42 »

I'm liking this really out-there concepts. This is kinda what I was thinking about initially

something bizarre and awesome.

Findecanor · « **Reply #82 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 06:37:07 »

Not interested. If I can't get Swedish legends, then that would be no different to me from having a "otaku" keyboard without legends.
... And I have already got a real Dolch.

I might be interested in coloured "otaku"/legendless keycaps though.

2084 · « **Reply #83 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 07:16:39 »

That translucent keyboard looks like something you would get as a consolation prize at a fair

Megaweapon · « **Reply #84 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 08:38:50 »

Quote from: Hak Foo;245769

What's cool is two-tone red-- my poor work board has been so dyed-- gets lots of attention.

Quote from: celery;246134

Though apparently the color in between the blocks is important too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caf%C3%A9_wall_illusion

This is where those colored plates become useful...

And it falls into place.

All these RK-9000 boards with the red backplate?

Two-tone red keys.

Best idea so far, IMO.

HaaTa · « **Reply #85 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 09:50:48 »

If it's in January, I'm interested in a set.

I want thick keycaps, sorta like this

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Kairxa · « **Reply #86 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 11:30:28 »

That is a hella thick keycap.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #87 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 15:41:56 »

OK, I'll volunteer a color scheme. The layout would be the same as the Dolch set, but instead of black and gray, it would be vivd blue. Ultramarine for the darker keys, and a shade lighter for the character keys. Legends would be white.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #88 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 17:19:38 »

It looks like adding Colemak support would add 13 keys (K, R, T, N, E, I, O, F, G, J, L, ;: and backspace change rows). I'm guessing it would add 10% to the cost of the set. Maybe it would make sense as a booster pack?

panda-R · « **Reply #89 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 17:35:48 »

Quote from: Fwiffo;246393

OK, I'll volunteer a color scheme. The layout would be the same as the Dolch set, but instead of black and gray, it would be vivd blue. Ultramarine for the darker keys, and a shade lighter for the character keys. Legends would be white.

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i still vote for a DOLCH set, but this could be good if the shades are done right.

Azuremen · « **Reply #90 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 18:50:45 »

Quote from: Fwiffo;246393

Ultramarine for the darker keys, and a shade lighter for the character keys. Legends would be white.

As an Eldar 40k player, I must object. Damn Smurfs.

That aside, I'd like to see Black keys with dark Grey or Black legends.

That, or Black and White keys. Would work nicely with my Rosewill board.

I'm also interested in possibly getting different colored keys for T, F, B, E, and the A key for StarCraft II (Protoss stuff), along with 1, 3, and 5.

Also, any idea how much a full 104 key set would cost? I'm new around here and thus not fully aware of what to expect this to cost.

Fwiffo · « **Reply #91 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 18:55:04 »

The last set was $49 per set. Additional special keys and funky options would increase that.

2084 · « **Reply #92 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 19:15:47 »

Quote from: Azuremen;246481

As an Eldar 40k player, I must object. Damn Smurfs.

Hah I was an Eldar and then Protoss player too, and when I talk about SC stuff I accidently keep calling Terrans -> Spacemarines and Protoss -> Eldar.

And I'll agree with you on the keys too, grey with black characters look great, see HHP2

Twitchy · « **Reply #93 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 20:06:03 »

Quote from: Fwiffo;246393

OK, I'll volunteer a color scheme. The layout would be the same as the Dolch set, but instead of black and gray, it would be vivd blue. Ultramarine for the darker keys, and a shade lighter for the character keys. Legends would be white.

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I am partially colour blind so forgive me that the colours are off but I thought I'd have a go at an "artist's impression" based on WhiteRice's photo.

RoboKrikit · « **Reply #94 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 20:15:05 »

I think that would look decent with a white enclosure. I'm betting most of the buyers here will have black keyboards, though.

firestorm · « **Reply #95 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 20:34:04 »

I'm not interested in anything too flashy myself. To be honest, I'd be happy with all black keys to simply replacing these cheap stockers (they're getting very shiny.) It doesn't appear that too many others want the stock look though, even if it had the large font.

The look of the dolch set is really growing on me. I didn't think I'd like the vintage look all that much. I saw that thread spawn, but as more of a lurker, I missed the important parts and missed out on ordering.

For something more flashy, I could probably go for something that incorporated some vintage blue and red. I'm thinking of colors that were more common on equipment, like ATM machines. Here's a good example from a recent thread here:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=12561&highlight=keypad

I have an image of a much deeper red in my mind, but have no clue where it is coming from.

I've "re-colored" automobiles for automotive forums in the past. If I can find the time to knock off the rust and remember how to do it, I may try to build some concept images.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #96 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 22:08:18 »

didjamatic · « **Reply #97 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 22:11:17 »

Quote from: HaaTa;246290

If it's in January, I'm interested in a set.

I want thick keycaps, sorta like this
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WHAT IS THAT, THE HEAD OF A SLEDGEHAMMER?!?!?!
I'd Love a set of caps that thick!

Fwiffo · « **Reply #98 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 22:37:41 »

If anybody wants to drop the 60 grand to pay for the retooling costs for thicker keys, I'll talk to signature about it.

armenws · « **Reply #99 on:** Sat, 13 November 2010, 23:01:55 »

me too

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