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« Reply #800 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 14:58:16 »
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will the CHERRYRGB options use the same "corrected" lettering/font as the Moogle Kit 2 keys?

I might just have to get in on some of this action, if so.


Yes, it will be as close to original Cherry keys as possible.
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« Reply #801 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 14:58:57 »
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Yes, it will be as close to original Cherry keys as possible.

what about the color if black/grey?

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« Reply #802 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 15:09:01 »
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what about the color if black/grey?


What about the light if night/early morning?





BTW:
I've cleaned up the wiki.

No more Bianco, Spherical or ALPS!

The remaining styles and colors are:

ROUND3: just the grey/very dark grey scheme with an orange gamer kit.

RETRO: like in the picture above (lightblue on lightgrey with darkgrey modifiers).

RETRO/*/BLACK: white (WA) on black (NN)

DARK: black on very dark grey.

DARK/*/ORANGE: orange on very dark grey.

No kits like PUN, FUN or ARR anymore!
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« Reply #803 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 15:11:41 »
you dont know or you dont wanna answer?

DARK: black on very dark grey. does it match the color of cherry doubleshot black on grey keycaps?

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« Reply #804 on: Sat, 15 October 2011, 15:19:51 »
Will we get an email with what has remained intact from our previous orders?
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« Reply #805 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 05:52:27 »
I sent multiple PMs to cancel the order like the OP said and I keep getting emails. Can you cancel the pre-order manually 7bit?

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« Reply #806 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 06:07:02 »
Is RETRO black text on white unavailable?

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« Reply #807 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 06:08:56 »
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you dont know or you dont wanna answer?

DARK: black on very dark grey. does it match the color of cherry doubleshot black on grey keycaps?


Not at all!

Very dark grey is almost black:



Quote from: Bongoojingie;431888
Will we get an email with what has remained intact from our previous orders?


107 emails sent.
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« Reply #808 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 06:17:47 »
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I sent multiple PMs to cancel the order like the OP said and I keep getting emails. Can you cancel the pre-order manually 7bit?

Preorder #0100 for WorldExclusive


Can't find the error.

Can you please send a message with a single line

CLEARALL

to 7bit_r4 ?
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« Reply #809 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 06:53:32 »
I got a new mail without the arrow set and the gamer set, but the gamer set is already in the wiki. Should I add the gamer kit again?
At the german layout is it possible to get the @ as alt gr option on Q and the € as alt gr option on the E key?

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« Reply #810 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 08:22:50 »
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Not at all!

Very dark grey is almost black:

Thanks.

Good job 7bit!

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« Reply #811 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 09:01:24 »
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I got a new mail without the arrow set and the gamer set, but the gamer set is already in the wiki. Should I add the gamer kit again?
At the german layout is it possible to get the @ as alt gr option on Q and the € as alt gr option on the E key?


If something is missung in your list and is still available, then just re-order it. The separate ARR kit is not available anymore.

For the RETRO and DARK style, there will be those A-Z keys with extra fluff like @ etc.

I will post layout-schemes for these in the wiki.
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« Reply #812 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 09:20:06 »
Mine is Preorder #0087
i got the email with a blank order, the first one was blank to.

Where can i fill the order request? full standard kit, for a filco majestouch I (104), with the portuguese layout like i showed in a picture a few posts away. Your the best!

Danke!
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« Reply #813 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 09:23:40 »
Quote from: 7bit;432202
Can't find the error.

Can you please send a message with a single line

CLEARALL

to 7bit_r4 ?

Ok I just did.

Since I know how to somewhat order now, I want to get the DARK/STD/ORANGE set.

This is ok?:

DARK/STD/ORANGE
DARK/SPACE
EMAIL
(Is the Filco space bar need or is it already included?)

Are the Windows and Gamer kits available in the DARK/*/ORANGE set?
How do I order the AWESOME FACE in the DARK/*/ORANGE set?
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« Reply #814 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 13:28:09 »
Hello 7bit. I'm relatively new here, and this is the first doubleshot replacement group I'll be participating in. I'm interested in this kit that litster has http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=24961&d=1314140459. I think my order would be the standard kit TKL? I searched and saw that the kit from group3 has another font. Does the group buy have a font option? I think litster kit's font would seem best.

Edit: litster.
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« Reply #815 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 14:46:24 »
Who is lister?

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« Reply #816 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 14:49:08 »
Third time's the charm
7bit:
About TENKLESS and STANDARD the standard has got 1,25 shift but either of the tenkeyless doesn't have it, but SE-language kit has 1,25 shift?
You haven't got rid of the FI yet? Also there isn't red color on some of the language kits where there should be.

To others:
So this is the right shopping list for two FI keyboards one 105- and one 88-key
RETRO/STANDARD/BLACK 1
RETRO/TKL/BLACK 1
RETRO/SE/BLACK 2
RETRO/GAMER/WHITE/RED 1
RETRO/WINDOWS/BLACK 2
RETRO/SPACE/BLACK 2

EMAIL

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« Reply #817 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 15:04:23 »
7bit, questions:

- What is the difference between TENKEYLESS and TKL?  What extra keys do you get in TENKEYLESS that TKL doesn't have?  Is TENKEYLESS a superset of TKL?
- Do STANDARD, TENKEYLESS, TKL kits come with spacebar or do we always have to order spacebar separately?
- What is the correct order code to order a Filco spacebar that has the same light grey color as the RETRO kit?

Thanks.

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« Reply #818 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 17:02:46 »
My 1 unit backspace :Cry:

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« Reply #819 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 17:37:39 »
Which Keys are in the RGB-kit (14keys) and which in RGBY-kit (36keys)?

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« Reply #820 on: Sun, 16 October 2011, 22:37:40 »
Quote from: litster;432431
7bit, questions:

- What is the difference between TENKEYLESS and TKL?  What extra keys do you get in TENKEYLESS that TKL doesn't have?  Is TENKEYLESS a superset of TKL?
- Do STANDARD, TENKEYLESS, TKL kits come with spacebar or do we always have to order spacebar separately?
- What is the correct order code to order a Filco spacebar that has the same light grey color as the RETRO kit?

Thanks.
for the spacebar, he told me RETRO/SPACE/WHITE

just checked both pre-order emails and they both say the same thing.

also, price went down 8 dollars for my order :)
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

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« Reply #821 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 02:23:18 »
I'm having a hard time understanding this....this + studying for midterms = x.x


But  RETRO/STD87

Would equate to that blue on grey keycap picture floating around. Is there a way to get that blue onto white keycaps?

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« Reply #822 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 15:15:17 »
Quote from: grik;432235
Mine is Preorder #0087
i got the email with a blank order, the first one was blank to.

Where can i fill the order request? full standard kit, for a filco majestouch I (104), with the portuguese layout like i showed in a picture a few posts away. Your the best!

Danke!
Thanks!


It depends on the style you want.

If you want ROUND3 style with white on grey or very dark grey keys, send a message to 7bit_r4 with the content:

ROUND3/STANDARD
ROUND3/SPACE
ROUND3/PT

Elsif you want RETRO style with lightblue on lightgrey/darkgrey keys, send a message to 7bit_r4 with the content:

RETRO/STANDARD
RETRO/SPACE
RETRO/PT

Elsif you want RETRO style with white on black keys, send a message to 7bit_r4 with the content:

RETRO/STANDARD/BLACK
RETRO/SPACE/BLACK
RETRO/PT/BLACK

Elsif you want DARK style with black on very dark grey keys, send a message to 7bit_r4 with the content:

DARK/STANDARD
DARK/SPACE
DARK/PT

Elsif you want DARK style with orange on very dark grey keys, send a message to 7bit_r4 with the content:

DARK/STANDARD/ORANGE
DARK/SPACE/ORANGE
DARK/PT/ORANGE

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« Reply #823 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 15:23:31 »
Quote from: WorldExclusive;432239
Ok I just did.

Since I know how to somewhat order now, I want to get the DARK/STD/ORANGE set.

This is ok?:

DARK/STD/ORANGE
DARK/SPACE
EMAIL
(Is the Filco space bar need or is it already included?)

Are the Windows and Gamer kits available in the DARK/*/ORANGE set?
How do I order the AWESOME FACE in the DARK/*/ORANGE set?


Space bars are never included!

Here is the updated pricelist:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4#Prices_for_Kits

DARK/STANDARD/ORANGE
DARK/SPACE
EMAIL youremail@address.xxx

DARK/AWESOME/ORANGE
DARK/GAMER/ORANGE
DARK/WINDOWS/ORANGE
... to be continued ...
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« Reply #824 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 15:26:15 »
Quote from: Gin;432377
Hello 7bit. I'm relatively new here, and this is the first doubleshot replacement group I'll be participating in. I'm interested in this kit that litster has http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=24961&d=1314140459. I think my order would be the standard kit TKL? I searched and saw that the kit from group3 has another font. Does the group buy have a font option? I think litster kit's font would seem best.

Edit: litster.

This is what the RETRO style would look like if it where in the same oclor scheme as Round1/3:


In fact, it will look more similar to this:

RETRO/TKL
RETRO/SPACE


Quote from: litster;432420
Who is lister?







Quote from: Dezeer;432421
Third time's the charm
7bit:
About TENKLESS and STANDARD the standard has got 1,25 shift but either of the tenkeyless doesn't have it, but SE-language kit has 1,25 shift?
You haven't got rid of the FI yet? Also there isn't red color on some of the language kits where there should be.

To others:
So this is the right shopping list for two FI keyboards one 105- and one 88-key
RETRO/STANDARD/BLACK 1
RETRO/TKL/BLACK 1
RETRO/SE/BLACK 2
RETRO/GAMER/WHITE/RED 1
RETRO/WINDOWS/BLACK 2
RETRO/SPACE/BLACK 2

EMAIL


I think I can trow out the 1.25 units Shift from the STANDARD kit. The language kits awill com,e with J-sahpe Return and 1.25 units Shift. The only kit which will have the 1.25 units Shift included will be the Terminal kit because these keyboards usually come with the small Shift and J-shape Return even in US-layout.


Quote from: litster;432431
7bit, questions:

- What is the difference between TENKEYLESS and TKL?  What extra keys do you get in TENKEYLESS that TKL doesn't have?  Is TENKEYLESS a superset of TKL?
- Do STANDARD, TENKEYLESS, TKL kits come with spacebar or do we always have to order spacebar separately?
- What is the correct order code to order a Filco spacebar that has the same light grey color as the RETRO kit?

Thanks.

TENKEYLESS is a kit which is suitable for some different Tenkeyless keyboards. The TKL kit is reduced to what is needed for a Filco Tenkeyless or a Cherry Tenkeyless if you cut off the numpad.

All come without a space bar!

http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot_Replacements_Round_4#Available_Colors_for_RETRO

RETRO/TKL
RETRO/SPACE
which is the same as
RETRO/SPACE/WHITE


Quote from: giHefca;432469
My 1 unit backspace :Cry:


You will find a 1 unit Back Space key in the Function kit, just have to add it again ... ;-)




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I bet nobody knows where the Lister Storm has its 12 cylinder engine placed. And even if, he'd hardly believe it.
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« Reply #825 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 16:52:09 »
MODIFIER kit comes with so much crap but has no enter, backspace, 1.25 shift, normal shift, tab, capslock, and not even a 1.25 control key for the most common keyboards like filco, leopold...

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« Reply #826 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 18:08:17 »
So no more awesome face? I got an email and all the awesome faces and colors were updated to zero.

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« Reply #827 on: Mon, 17 October 2011, 18:33:41 »
Is it possible to get just A-Z (or 37 key alp set) in either RETRO or DARK?

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« Reply #828 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 02:45:51 »
Quote from: 7bit;433013
TENKEYLESS is a kit which is suitable for some different Tenkeyless keyboards. The TKL kit is reduced to what is needed for a Filco Tenkeyless or a Cherry Tenkeyless if you cut off the numpad.

All come without a space bar!

RETRO/TKL
RETRO/SPACE
which is the same as
RETRO/SPACE/WHITE

Instead of white space bar, I would like a spacebar that matches the light grey alphabet keys.  What should the order ID be for that?

Alos RETRO/TENKEYLESS doesn't seem to work as my new order summary doesn't have it even thought I sent an update.  I will try again.

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« Reply #829 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 04:17:11 »
Quote from: sinis;433081
MODIFIER kit comes with so much crap but has no enter, backspace, 1.25 shift, normal shift, tab, capslock, and not even a 1.25 control key for the most common keyboards like filco, leopold...


The Modifier kit is an add-on for the Standard/Tenkless etc kits and contains only keys which are not in those kits.

J and L shape return are avaialable separate.
1.25 units shift is available in all langiage kits (There is a US kit if you want US-layout on an ISO keyboard).
Tab and Caps Lock are already in the Standard/Tenkless/Terminal kits.


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« Reply #830 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 04:42:02 »
Quote from: Tennobanzai;433149
So no more awesome face? I got an email and all the awesome faces and colors were updated to zero.


The following AWESOME keys should be still available:
ROUND3/AWESOME (white on very dark grey)
ROUND3/AWESOME/ORANGE (white on orange)
RETRO/AWESOME/BLACK/YELLOW (black (NN) on yellow (YY))
RETRO/AWESOME/YELLOW/BLACK (yellow (YY) on black (NN))
RETRO/AWESOME/YELLOW/GREY (yellow (YCE) on grey (GQM))
DARK/AWESOME/ORANGE same as ROUND3
DARK/AWESOME/YELLOW (yellow (YY) on very dark grey (GX))

Same for AWESOMEMOD.

Anybody in for DARK/AWESOME which would be barely visible NN on GX ?
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« Reply #831 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 04:42:16 »
Hi Sixty, does that mean if I signed up for a STD kit and spacebar, I will need to order the modifier keys as well?

So a full DARK/ORANGE set (to replace every single keycap) would be:

DARK/STD/ORANGE 1
DARK/SPACE/ORANGE 1
DARK/MODIFIER/ORANGE 1
EMAIL xxx@xxx

Is that right?

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« Reply #832 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 04:50:06 »
Quote from: jinhan108;433457
Hi Sixty, does that mean if I signed up for a STD kit and spacebar, I will need to order the modifier keys as well?

So a full DARK/ORANGE set (to replace every single keycap) would be:

DARK/STD/ORANGE 1
DARK/SPACE/ORANGE 1
DARK/MODIFIER/ORANGE 1
EMAIL xxx@xxx

Is that right?

Contrary to popular believe, I'm not Sixty!

diff sixty 7bit
< G80-1800
> G80-2550

Also, my group buys are much slower.

You need:
DARK/STANDARD/ORANGE 1
DARK/SPACE/ORANGE 1
EMAIL you@jinhan108.xxx

Look into the wiki!
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« Reply #833 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 04:57:03 »
Quote from: Jophess;433169
Is it possible to get just A-Z (or 37 key alp set) in either RETRO or DARK?


Currently not.

Maybe there will be some kind of wornoutkeysreplacementkit which should contain all keys which are worn out qicly and need to be more often replaced than others.
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« Reply #834 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 04:59:47 »
Quote from: litster;433425
Instead of white space bar, I would like a spacebar that matches the light grey alphabet keys.  What should the order ID be for that?

Alos RETRO/TENKEYLESS doesn't seem to work as my new order summary doesn't have it even thought I sent an update.  I will try again.


Lightgrey is the white of the Retro kit!
Try RETRO/TENKLESS instead

order:
RETRO/TENKLESS
RETRO/SPACE
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« Reply #835 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 05:03:39 »
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I'm having a hard time understanding this....this + studying for midterms = x.x


But  RETRO/STD87

Would equate to that blue on grey keycap picture floating around. Is there a way to get that blue onto white keycaps?

No real white. White in the Retro style is lightgrey.

In the great cleanup, STD87 has been renamed to  TENKLESS

You need:
RETRO/TENKLESS
RETRO/SPACE
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« Reply #836 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 05:14:28 »
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Which Keys are in the RGB-kit (14keys) and which in RGBY-kit (36keys)?

Is it possible to get the content of this kits?

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« Reply #837 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 05:26:24 »
Quote from: Curetia;433464
Is it possible to get the content of this kits?


Shift, Control and Alt with 1, 1.25 and 1.5 units. plus red Escape.
The RGBY kit contains additional keys in yellow.

I will post layout graphics as soon as possible.
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« Reply #838 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 05:27:31 »
Any chance of using First-Class Mail International instead of Priority Mail International? Don't really want many keys.

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« Reply #839 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 09:37:22 »
nvm..
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« Reply #840 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 12:00:43 »
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Any chance of using First-Class Mail International instead of Priority Mail International? Don't really want many keys.


It is not helpful for this group buy that you don't want many keys!

However, if there are cheaper shipping methods, we should go for them.
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« Reply #841 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 12:31:15 »
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It is not helpful for this group buy that you don't want many keys!

However, if there are cheaper shipping methods, we should go for them.

2$ I think was the 5 filcos I got. If they fit in standard envelope(100 or so) I think there is cheper methods)... Maybe...
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #842 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 13:18:54 »
Quote from: Ekaros;433651
2$ I think was the 5 filcos I got. If they fit in standard envelope(100 or so) I think there is cheper methods)... Maybe...


If someone from the US can check out the prices and test how many key caps will fit into appropriate envelopes, I'd much appreciate it.

Neverthless, here are the RGB and RGBY kits:






The actual colors and color-scheme (RGB text vs. RGB background) depends on the style (ROUND3, RETRO, DARK).
Buy key caps here: Round 5
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Offline calavera

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« Reply #843 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 13:32:55 »
Looks like the RGBY kit is just what I need. How do I order this?

Also, when is the deadline for this group buy? I thought this was supposed to be smaller and quicker.

Offline ishtob

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« Reply #844 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 13:49:43 »
Quote from: calavera;433687
Looks like the RGBY kit is just what I need. How do I order this?

Also, when is the deadline for this group buy? I thought this was supposed to be smaller and quicker.
send the bot this messege:
RGBY 1
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Offline Wraul

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« Reply #845 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 15:41:08 »
So the only way to get a 3rd row control key to replace caps lock is to buy the terminal kit? If that's the case this will be expensive.
And will that kit fit a filco anyway?

Offline giHefca

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« Reply #846 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 16:05:51 »
SHOUT (1.75 units, full-touch Shout key) or SHOUTS    (1.75 units, stepped Shout key) ?

Offline zoidbergslo

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« Reply #847 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 16:26:01 »
ANTICAPSLOCK in wiki is your answer

contains:
row 3 (1.75 units)
Rub Out (both versions, center and off-enter mount)
Control (both versions, center and off-enter mount)
Escape (both versions, center and off-enter mount)
Filco Tenkeyless

Offline 7bit

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« Reply #848 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 16:36:36 »
Quote from: ishtob;433701
send the bot this messege:
RGBY 1
EMAIL your@email

Quote from: calavera;433687
Looks like the RGBY kit is just what I need. How do I order this?

Here are your choices:
ROUND3/RGBY white on RGBY
ROUND3/RGBY/BLACK RGBY on very dark grey
RETRO/RGBY RGBY on dark grey
RETRO/RGBY/BLACK white on RGBY
DARK/RGBY RGBY on very dark grey

Quote from: calavera;433687
Also, when is the deadline for this group buy? I thought this was supposed to be smaller and quicker.


No, only fewer choices than in my original plan.

There is still no deadline.
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Offline RColinTaylor

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« Reply #849 on: Tue, 18 October 2011, 17:03:17 »
Oh, good news 7bit: KBL and myself have been working with Melissa to design a new spacebar with 6stems that will fit a Leopold AND a Filco and from the recent responses she has given us everything is looking up. SP wants to make it for no extra charge and it seems as though they want to make it as soon as possible.
I like my Browns more than my Blues.