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« Reply #50 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 17:04:33 »
Let's see...

Europe? Europe is trying to cut their way to prosperity. It's not working. The continent is in a depression. The Euro failed.

China? The real estate bubble cannot go forever. Inflation is raging, counteracting the effects of Chinese currency manipulation. Look for a Chinese financial crisis in 3... 2...

America? The economy is recovering briskly now. Violent crime and teen births have dropped sharply in recent decades. The country is not run by idiots at the moment. America has problems, sure, but I would rather be a median American than a median Chinese or European in 2012.

(When Bush was in office, I would have gone for median European.)

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« Reply #51 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 18:56:33 »
Europe and Eurozone are not synonymous thankfully.

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« Reply #52 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:06:44 »
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The country is not run by idiots at the moment.

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« Reply #53 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:09:06 »
To be fair, at least Obama isn't starting any expensive, unprovoked and unwinnable wars yet.

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« Reply #54 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:11:24 »
You mean aside from the one he started with our wallets?

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« Reply #55 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:14:55 »
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Europe? Europe is trying to cut their way to prosperity. It's not working. The continent is in a depression. The Euro failed.

Pfft.. Many Americans make the error of seeing Europe as a largely homogeneous entity. It's not. There are huge differences between north and south and between east and west, both in culture and in political and economical systems.
The north-western countries: such as Sweden (where I live), Norway and Denmark are doing great, but then none of them have the Euro.

Greece, in the south-east, has the problems it has because it has very much a corrupt, backwards system and they have refused to reform into a modern country. Italy is also getting worse, but is not even at the same magnitude.
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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:18:32 »
Findecanor is right. Funny thing with Italy is that it used to be like they had two different economies - a strong one in the North but weak in the South. Unfortunately corruption has taken it's toll.

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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 19:23:36 »
Yeah, and even in Italy you can see the north/south divide, with the north of Italy being fairly industrious, similarly to Germany, whilst the south are a bunch of backwards goat farmers/Cosa Nostra.

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« Reply #58 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 20:02:26 »
Hey, not ALL the southerners are like you say. There are still some good people there.

(My family originates from the south) :D

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« Reply #59 on: Thu, 16 February 2012, 21:09:07 »
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Pfft.. Many Americans make the error of seeing Europe as a largely homogeneous entity. It's not. There are huge differences

I know. All the countries with their own currencies are OK. The peripheral countries on the Euro are in trouble, their German central bankers are not looking out for their interests. Surprise.

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« Reply #60 on: Fri, 17 February 2012, 07:12:41 »
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I know. All the countries with their own currencies are OK. The peripheral countries on the Euro are in trouble, their German central bankers are not looking out for their interests. Surprise.


Their destruction isn't imminent, but OK is bit far for some. If either US or Eurozone goes wrong everyone else will too. And I belive it will go wrong, the current system isn't sustainable without reboot or remake...
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« Reply #61 on: Fri, 17 February 2012, 08:02:35 »
I think the correct word is "refactor".

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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 17 February 2012, 09:48:46 »
The Dollar and the Euro will both be fine, of course.  The Eurozone is going to become much more centralised and controlled after the Greece fiasco though.

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« Reply #63 on: Fri, 17 February 2012, 11:16:41 »
All I know is Hungarian chicks are super hot.  I'm gonna become a Mormon like Mitt Romney so I can marry one as a second wife.  If that doesn't work, I'll go muslim.  A salaam alacheim, sahib.
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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 17 February 2012, 12:02:46 »
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the south are a bunch of backwards goat farmers/Cosa Nostra.

I've got a little of both in my famiglia.  The goat farmers still live in Sicily; most of the ones who left, the latter.

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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 17 February 2012, 23:51:11 »
this thread is great.  especially the part where the guy from Hungary (you know the country still crawling out of communism, racism, anti semitism and still massively corrupt) obsesses over the USA.
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« Reply #67 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 04:35:05 »
It is funny how you make this personal in every thread of mine. This time you made an irrelevant & ad hominem attack on me by associating me with an ignorant picture of a country you clearly know nothing about. Btw I'm not even from Hungary, I just live here.. Once again you proved us your ignorance just like those guys in the video. You must really hate yourself.
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« Reply #68 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 07:34:15 »
Interesting...I always assumed you were Hungarian.

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« Reply #69 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 07:51:45 »
I have dual citizenship. I'm half Russian, similarly like you are Italian.
However nationality has nothing to do with ignorance. I'm sure there are people in North Korean who don't worship the establishment.
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« Reply #70 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 07:59:56 »
Good point.

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« Reply #72 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 10:38:35 »
Vote for ripster here and here folks!

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« Reply #73 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:58:48 »
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I hear Scotland won't be part of the UK.....
Yeah, Scotland is already semi-autonomous, which is why the recession (well not technically a recession anymore, but whatever) affecting the UK is pretty much non-existent here.  I don't really care either way how the independence vote turns out though, my girlfriend is American and doesn't plan staying here forever after graduating University, so I'll probably emigrate over to the US by the time the vote takes place.
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« Reply #74 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 11:59:58 »
Nice. Hit me up and we can go bowling.

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« Reply #76 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:09:00 »
Yeah, to be fair, anyone that's actually had any experience with gypsies knows they're terrible.

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« Reply #77 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:10:53 »
I have to agree. Although Black Cat White Cat was a hilarious movie.

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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:19:26 »
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It is funny how you make this personal in every thread of mine. This time you made an irrelevant & ad hominem attack on me by associating me with an ignorant picture of a country you clearly know nothing about. Btw I'm not even from Hungary, I just live here.. Once again you proved us your ignorance just like those guys in the video. You must really hate yourself.


Where did I attack you?  I just said you obsess over the US which you do,  do you really deny this?  You make threads saying the US is ****ed and then gets mad when someone points out the problems the country you live in has. Hypocrisy I love it.
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« Reply #79 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:22:28 »
YIL (Yesterday I Learned) that although everyone KNOWS North Carolina is first in flight, for some reason Ohio thinks it is.

Like duh, the Wright Brothers didn't achieve their first controlled powered flight in Ohio!



Ohio thinking they're first in flight? Now THAT'S why America is ****ed.
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« Reply #80 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:24:20 »
I think they were originally from Ohio is why people think that.
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« Reply #81 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:43:19 »
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Like duh, the Wright Brothers didn't achieve their first powered flight in Ohio!
And... the Wright Brothers were not even the first to do a powered flight. The first was made by German-born Gustav Weisskopf. He emigrated to the USA in 1893 and changed his name to Whitehead ("Weisskopf" means literally "white head"). Evidence of his flights exist from 1901, but he may have been flying as early as 1897.
However, Whitehead did not use rudders to steer and could only fly onwards and not compensate course for wind shear. The Wright Brothers were the first to achieve controlled flight a few years later.
Because Whitehead had been born in Germany, his accomplishments were deliberately ignored for political reasons for many many years.
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« Reply #82 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:43:58 »
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This kinda insulted asians AND jews.

It was an innocent joke that you nicely taken out of its context in an attempt to frame me. Did you learn it from Obama?
What about your Canadian and Asian jokes? You are such a hypocrite critter.

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But there are so many of these that even it can pick up RiGS jew/gypsy/American hatin'.


I can safely say that I don't promote Zionism, and I hate to see those people in power destroying America, Europe and the rest of the World.
I don't hate Americans. In fact, I really like the Founding Principles of the United States and personal freedom.
It is just really painful for me how the corrupt corporate elite take over the people by abolishing our basic human rights, such as freedom and dignity in order to expand its 'democracy', while keeping the society in state of trance.
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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:44:50 »
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And... the Wright Brothers were not even the first to do a powered flight. The first was made by German-born Gustav Weisskopf. He emigrated to the USA in 1893 and changed his name to Whitehead ("Weisskopf" means literally "white head"). Evidence of his flights exist from 1901, but he may have been flying as early as 1897.
However, Whitehead did not use rudders to steer and could only fly onwards and not compensate course for wind shear. The Wright Brothers were the first to achieve controlled flight a few years later.
Because Whitehead had been born in Germany, his accomplishments were deliberately ignored for political reasons for many many years.

Thanks for the info! Updated my post.

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« Reply #85 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:51:24 »
Agreed. I'm pretty sure Obama hasn't even read the Constitution.

Too busy vacationing in the Hamptons on our tax dollars.

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« Reply #86 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:52:47 »
As everyone who has access to Google knows:  the Wright brothers were from Dayton, Ohio, and moved their flight experiments to the outer banks of North Carolina for the steady wind known to be prevalent at that location.  Furthermore, if the people of the great city of Chicago were not so meek, they might assert a claim to being "first-in-flight", since the first hang glider was flown by two men from Chicago on the shores of Lake Michigan, in what is now the city of Gary, Indiana.  Those early hang-gliders were designed by Octave Chanute and flown by Augustus Herring and William Avery in 1896 and 1897 (all Chicago residents at the time).  I was never very good at math, but I think that's about 3-4 years before the Wright brothers made their first successful flight in Kitty Hawk, NC in 1900.

President Obama does not vacation in the Hamptons.  He went to Martha's Vineyard last year.  Which is a different place, and is located in a different state.  They are not the same place, is what I'm trying to say.  I don't know how else I can say it.  Not the Hamptons.
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« Reply #87 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:55:18 »
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Actually we like our Harvard Schooled leaders.

As you're an MIT grad I'm not surprised. Despite the fact that MIT is like Harvard's little sister.

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« Reply #88 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 12:58:18 »
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You trust Google?  If Ripster Keyboard Science was based on Google searches Geekhack would still be in the dark ages.

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Me?  Not really.  My Wright Brothers knowledge comes from what I learned in school.  But other people rely on Google as their source of information, so I used that as a reference.
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« Reply #89 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:10:25 »
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Where did I attack you?  I just said you obsess over the US which you do,  do you really deny this?  You make threads saying the US is ****ed and then gets mad when someone points out the problems the country you live in has. Hypocrisy I love it.

There is no need to get so defensive. I think you simply missed the point of this thread and you were taking the title too literally. It is not a debate over nations. It is all about ignorance in general. Move on.
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« Reply #90 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:17:51 »
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Wait, you believe what you learned in school?

LOL.  Oh noes, do you mean they lied to me?
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« Reply #91 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:18:11 »
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You seem to like posting Anti-USA propaganda on a USA forum.

I don't get it.  Go back to Deskthority.net if you don't like it here.


Actually your support of Obama lends me to find you more Anti-USA than RiGS.

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« Reply #92 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:21:59 »
you can drop the trolling rigs its not going to work. people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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« Reply #93 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:24:43 »
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Actually your support of Obama lends me to find you more Anti-USA than RiGS.

Well I'm no Obama supporter!   I want to vote for the Rich Guy, or the Fat Guy, cuz then I'll be able to have a Hungarian hottie as a second wife and/or mistress.  (Because they embody polygamy/ adultery)

Obama will make me pay my taxes and his wife will make me eat my broccoli.  eww.

Oh yeah, and I used to think racism was ignorant, but now I think it's kewl!  Thx Rigs!
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« Reply #94 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:31:18 »
I dont see how anyone can still support Obama, the guy hasn't taken responsibility for any of the mistakes he has made.  Now I don't think they are all his fault, but honestly not taking responsibility for ANYTHING is just childish.
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« Reply #95 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:32:52 »
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you can drop the trolling rigs its not going to work. people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

It seems it works quite well, seeing how defensive you get everytime I start an OT thread.
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« Reply #96 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:33:08 »
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I dont see how anyone can still support Obama, the guy hasn't taken responsibility for any of the mistakes he has made.  Now I don't think they are all his fault, but honestly not taking responsibility for ANYTHING is just childish.

Exactly; he's not a leader. He's not worthy of the position he holds.

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« Reply #97 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:36:01 »
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Exactly; he's not a leader. He's not worthy of the position he holds.

He is sure a good actor, he should definitely consider a career change. He is almost as good as Denzel Washington.
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« Reply #98 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:37:53 »
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He is sure a good actor, he should definitely consider a career change. He is almost as good as Denzel Washington.

He tried it already. Crashed and burned.


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« Reply #99 on: Sat, 18 February 2012, 13:44:36 »
Maybe the Rich Guy can marry the Fat Guy?  Then we can have a co-presidency of greed, pride, lust, and gluttony.  (Well some envy, wrath and sloth too probably.)  What a winning combo!  I think we should call it the 7 Republican Characteristics or something like that.
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