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See, no one likes jews.
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why is it all divided up into spots like a cows arse? is it from fighting and acquiring territory? I really never much cared for israel/palastine and never understood why they were even granted landed after wwii, if anything, they should have had east berlin/germany or hell give them italy(they were the bad guys too), ny pizza is better anyway.

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They already bought Hungary from the Soviets.
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Yep. For instance, translucent concrete(Litracon) is a Hungarian invention.




Stringbike is another recent Hungarian invention. It is a bicycle without chains.

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See, no one likes jews.

What has this to do with liking jews?
They are looking for a solution that can bring peace someday.. but it looks like the fundamentalists win again and everyone else loses(on both sides)

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I LOLed at the StringBike.

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What has this to do with liking jews?

 
RiGS doesn't like jews. Nor gays or gypsies for that matter.

If you are a gay Jewish gypsy, I would NOT give RiGS any of your personal info.

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Gypsies are typically poor (it's hard for them to get jobs in the EU, since they are not trusted). They are very segregated, much like blacks used to be in America.

I saw groups of them eating from garbage bins in RO before, including children. I left my leftover lunch on a sidewalk for them.

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Although I think Israel should be able to keep East Jerusalem (well, the Old City, not necessarily the rest of it) and the Golan Heights (which don't displace any Palestinians), yes, they will have to largely go back to the 1967 borders. Judaea and Samaria notwithstanding, the West Bank was not filled with Jews before 1967, and so the settlements are displacing people who need the land to feed themselves.

But after 9/11, it is very difficult for the American people to consider putting pressure on Israel. If the Islamic world stopped supporting terrorists, whether al-Qaeda or Hamas, and completely renounced violence as a solution, then it would be possible for Americans, once they saw that this pledge was serious - after decades went by without Islamist violence of any kind - then if Israel continued to refuse to engage in serious negotiations, America's patience might wear thin.

As long, though, as it seems like the thinking in that part of the world can compass violence against us, it's difficult to care about the plight of the Palestinians.

In October, 1973, remember the oil embargo? Remember the line ups at the gas pumps? And, of course, NATO forces in Europe used gasoline.

France and Britain could have ended up in slavery like Hungary and Poland - and the Arab world didn't even care. Being on the wrong side of history comes with a price tag.

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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 24 May 2011, 21:45:31 »
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Israel needs to pull their heads out of the sand and understand the Arab World is changing.  

Demographically it IS becoming apartheid.

 
Arab World has always been and still is one big nice apartheid. Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.

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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 24 May 2011, 21:51:53 »
flatten all of jerusalem and build a giant walmart. it's not as if the guys there will ever get along.
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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 24 May 2011, 21:58:32 »
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flatten all of jerusalem and build a giant walmart. it's not as if the guys there will ever get along.

 
I beg to differ. I think they will eventually get along. If you looked at Europe of the 12th century you might have thought the same thing: they will never get along. But eventually they did. If you carefully look at Arab societies of today, you will see striking resemblance to European societies of the 12th century.

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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 24 May 2011, 23:41:25 »
Why do the israel's even think they are entitled to that land because of reparations? from the news seems like israel just wants more and more and the palestine ppl just want the 67 ways. Why does the US even care about israel? there's no oil there.

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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 24 May 2011, 23:54:53 »
Lanx wins ubertroll for today.

The current borders exist as a result of Arab agression against Israel, not the opposite.

You would all do well to read history, follow the news, and use common sense before jumping in to comment on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. This is not American Idol.
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« Reply #15 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 00:10:08 »
doesn't look like the arabs are doing a good job of winning then, they fight and loose more? besides why shouldn't they fight? jews said "give us land" then the UN said sure, here have half of palestine, no one cares about them. From the map, looks like white is winning (the color of the map, but in a sense i guess white works too)

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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 00:22:51 »
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I beg to differ. I think they will eventually get along. If you looked at Europe of the 12th century you might have thought the same thing: they will never get along. But eventually they did. If you carefully look at Arab societies of today, you will see striking resemblance to European societies of the 12th century.

 
Yeah, give them a few hundred years... Just hunred years ago Europe was quite ready for an other war. Now not so, modern total war changes perspective... Might not get around in our life time. If there weren't oil most western people wouldn't even care...
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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 01:18:40 »
The problem with Palestinians is that nobody really cares about them. Many of them live in Jordan and Lebanon yet you don't see Jordan giving up land to form a Palestinian country despite the fact Jordan is twice the size of Israel. Not to mention that many Palestinians still live in refugee camps and with limited rights in the before-mentioned two countries. Arab brotherhood my arse.
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« Reply #18 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 03:18:38 »
Lebanon is beautiful btw. I'd love to visit there if iit were a more friendly nation to Westerners. The rest of the middle east should be trying to score land there instead of Israel. Honestly, its gorgeous.
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« Reply #19 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 12:56:30 »
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I really never much cared for israel/palastine and never understood why they were even granted landed after wwii, if anything, they should have had east berlin/germany or hell give them italy

Not quite true, the were granted land with the Balfour declaration in 1917 wich later in 1920 was incorporated in the Treaty Sèvres between the allies and the Ottoman empire (that rueld the area before).
Article 95 in the treaty reads:
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The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.


This was the area the british controlled and where the national home where meant to be placed:

Not on all the land but a fraction, as today.
Then the Brits delayed the whole thing and another war got in the way.
During this war the Grand Mufti (ruler) of Jerusalem spent his days in Berlin recruiting Arab Waffen SS soldiers and planning a holocaust in the MidEast.
After WW2 the newly founded UN adopted a partition plan that jewish leaders accepted but the arabs rejected.
Partition plan:

When the Brits left in 1948 Israel declared independance and all adjectant states (and some more) attacked.
During the fog of war less than 800000 arabs left the newly founded state, those who stayed recived Israeli citizenship.
All jews in the areas conquerd by arabs were either killed or expelled.
In the wake of the war almost all jews living in the muslim world were forced to emigrate, the number is close to a million.
Today almost half of Israels population are refugees or descendants of this group.
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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 13:36:48 »
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Demographically it IS becoming apartheid.

Becoming?
That map is eleven years old!

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Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.

Yep. There are even strong political groups within Israel that are for creating laws that would make Arab Israeli citizens into second-class citizens.

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During the fog of war less than 800000 arabs left the newly founded state,

In other words: they fled or were expelled ...
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 14:05:32 »
Expelled?

You eurotrash Nazi/holocaust apologists kill me.

The Jews have been the ones forced out of their homes time and time again. The Jews in Israel never systematically targeted Arabs for removal or elimination. Israel was formed with the intent that the Arabs there would be a permanent part of the population.  Israelis HAVE, however, met violence and aggression with swift and decisive military action throughout their short history, and have been justified in doing so each time.

The "Palestinian" movement as it exists now has no interest in peace, or even in securing a sovereign nation for "Palestinians". The goal is all out genocide and removal of all Jewish people and culture from Israel.

The Palestinian people have to take control of the negotiations from those who threaten and kill before any progress will be made.

The suggestion of the 1967 borders is an insult to Israel, a steadfast ally to the US since its creation. I can't articulate my great dissappointment in the US government in its recent dealings with Israel.

Concessions to thugs only emboldens them to more thuggery.
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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 16:07:45 »
seems like the UN "thugged" out the palestinian ppl first by giving away their land, they're just taking it back. Plus my solution was better, just give the israel ppl italy, until hollywood makes a good godfather or casino, italy is irrelevant and should have faced harsh punishment for being evil.

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 16:31:52 »
Forza Italia!

Don't diss my ancestral homeland.

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 17:00:06 »
Italy has great food and great... well... the food is really great. So leave Italy alone. And UN did not give away anything. UN is utterly incapable of achieving any objective, good or bad. Jews decided to re-create independent Jewish state (in 19th century, very long before UN even existed), because of horrendous persecution around the world. And they re-created it. Quite an achievement actually, if you think about it without the usual prejudice. As if you could...

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 25 May 2011, 17:28:29 »
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Forza Italia!

Don't diss my ancestral homeland.

the losers of wwii? They got off pretty well, i mean germans are forever stigmatized as the one other group of ppl we can kill in video games and feel good aside from zombies. ZOMBIES! whats the popular game now? i think call of duty with zombie/nazi's!
Japanese have to deal with nuclear fallout, and along with the recent nuclear reactors are just not the race that should be deal with nuclear huh? (even tho it's impossible for reactor to blow up like a bomb) can can never build up arms.

what happened to italy?
They take credit for making good pizza!

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 26 May 2011, 00:02:27 »
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 26 May 2011, 08:51:42 »
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Yep. There are even strong political groups within Israel that are for creating laws that would make Arab Israeli citizens into second-class citizens.
Well, there is racism in the United States. However, while Arab citizens of Israel had been loyal citizens of the nation for many years, today we witness activities by their representatives in the Knesset that are understandably regarded as shocking by many Israelis, such as terming Israel's independence as the "Nakhba", or catastrophe.

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In other words: they fled or were expelled ...
They left voluntarily, being urged to do so by propaganda from the countries attacking Israel, so as to facilitate the attack.

Israelis, quite understandably, do not feel they owe anything to people who are displaced as a result of their decision to assist an attempt to drive Israel into the sea. The countries that urged them to leave should be giving them citizenship instead of leaving them in refugee camps, which are breeding grounds for terrorism.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 26 May 2011, 11:35:35 »
I find Lanx's posts to be about as coherent and understandable as webwit's.

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« Reply #29 on: Sat, 30 July 2011, 13:19:39 »
US aid is used by the Palestinian Authoriity to pay salaries to terrorists jailed in Israel. That costs US taxpayers roughly $5000000 a month.
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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 30 July 2011, 15:13:13 »
I was going through Google Books looking for old phrase books, although I still have not unravelled the riddle of the postillion struck by lightning.

In any case, I happened to come across a book where someone was complaining that refugees from Turkey could not receive aid from Britain because the cruel Hungarians were not allowing it in. Not that this matters today; it was long ago, and today Hungary is another ally of ours that suffered under the heel of Communism.

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Too bad the Tea Party jinxed the Obama/Boehner deal.
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Still, the Mayan Calendar doesn't say anything about August 2, 2011.
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« Reply #31 on: Sat, 30 July 2011, 15:52:01 »
December 21st is when the Mayan Calendar says that the current k'atun ends and a new k'atun begins.
The last shift of this magnitude in their calendar occurred on September 18th 1618. What happened then? Not much of significance.
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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 31 July 2011, 17:26:41 »
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You eurotrash Nazi/holocaust apologists kill me.


Resorting to gratuitous insults hardly strengthens your argument.

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Concessions to thugs only emboldens them to more thuggery.


Indeed. What you neglect is that there has been plenty of thuggery on both sides - just look at Israel's record of the use of disproportionate force in response to Palestinian terrorism. And don't forget that Zionist terrorists were involved in ending the British mandate.
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« Reply #33 on: Sun, 31 July 2011, 17:31:53 »
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Plus my solution was better, just give the israel ppl italy, until hollywood makes a good godfather or casino, italy is irrelevant and should have faced harsh punishment for being evil.


So what's relevant ?

Such idiotic post ?
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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 00:15:55 »
The Israeli Zionist Jews do not want the truth to be out so read the fine print by clicking on the link in my sig.  I'm not worried about being assassinated because i'm not reaching the masses.  Ignorance is bliss if one does not care about the future generations...

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 12:40:28 »
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Arab World has always been and still is one big nice apartheid. Most Arab states always had and still have laws openly and directly denying Jews (and other sub-humans) equal rights. Israel, by the way, has no such laws, although obviously there are racists in every country, not just Hungary.

Yeah right ..
ANY Jew has a RIGHT to 'return home' to 'Israel', paid by the Israeli Government .
This right does not apply to Goyim (Non-Jews), including Palestinians . And it's THEIR COUNTRY !!
I think Israel should respect the 1948 UN-borders and give back ALL the land they have stolen since !

PS : And Israel DOES have laws that discriminate against Goyim ..
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The Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law was passed by the Knesset on 31 July 2003, during the second Palestinian uprising.
The law does not enable the acquisition of Israeli citizenship or residency by a Palestinian from the West Bank or Gaza Strip via marriage.
The law does allow children from such marriages to live in Israel until age 12, at which age they are required to emigrate
Please note that this law defines STOLEN LAND as 'Israel' !!
ALSO note that Palestinians are not considered Citizens in the first place !!!

Israel is a racist country; Jews are no better than anyone else, in fact they are behaving quite like a bunch of Nazis ..

PPS : **** Anders Behring Breivik, stupid Isralover !
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« Reply #36 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 13:08:41 »
Simpletons need not read this thread.

That's a funny definition of "stolen". Israel's borders grew each time Arab nations surrounding it were dumb enough to attack, and as always, lose. The Israeli army didn't just annex land in the middle of the night unprovoked.
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« Reply #37 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 13:14:53 »
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That's a funny definition of "stolen".


A steal is a steal, even if behind it there are good reasons (which anyway are missing in our case).

Israel did whatever it wanted, just because was (and still is) backed by the US. Period.

No need to add anything else.
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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 13:37:05 »
Everyone should not be so concerned about Palestinians and wake up to the the fact that the Israeli Zionist Jews are enslaving 95% of the worlds population with the currency they print out of thin air with artificial inflation.

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« Reply #39 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 14:08:02 »
Move along people, nothing to see here while the Earth is slowly becoming more inhabitable.  What BP oil catastrophe and nuke plant built on a known fault? :Goes back to watching TV and eating kosher hot dog's:  mmm

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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 14:29:24 »
Artificial inflation is created by the central bank 'ex. Federal Reserve' charging lending banks 'ex. Bank of America' at interest, also known as debt, for every dollar in circulation that must be paid back to the central bank which does not exist in circulation to begin with! For example, let's say I am the federal reserve bank, you are Bank of America and you want to borrow one dollar from me. You must pay me back that one dollar PLUS the additional interest, therefore, you owe me $1.10. Now ask yourself this question. If I am the only bank who creates the nations money supply in America, how are you going to pay me the additional ten cents you owe me? You cannot because the ten cents you owe me is artificially created and does not exist. You have to give the Zionist Jews credit for being able to deceive the majority of the world's population.  

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« Reply #41 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 14:48:52 »
This thread is FILLED with bigotry.
You ******* racists should be ASHAMED of yourselves for forming a factless opinion.

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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 14:56:34 »
They don't call it fractional-reserve banking for nothing ya know.  Meaning, they are allowed to only hold a fraction of the reserves rather than all reserves of currency in circulation.  We all have played monopoly with monopoly money and it's just a game.  What makes people think "real" money is not a monopoly and is not monopoly money as well?  What justifies our purpose on this planet other than being just a game just like fiat currency?  Monopoly money doesn't have that money smell so it must be fake.

Edit:  Money is defined as something of value, bank notes is defined as useless ink and paper not backed by anything than the stock it's printed on.

There are ones who create the nations money supply and the one's who work 9-5 to obtain this odd smelling ink and paper that is backed by nothing ever since the gold confiscation act of 1933.




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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 14:58:33 »
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This thread is FILLED with bigotry.
You ******* racists should be ASHAMED of yourselves for forming a factless opinion.

Read the fine print located at the bottom by clicking on the link in my sig and I challenge you to prove me wrong.  Please, somebody take the challenge, i'm getting bored.

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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 15:00:00 »
I am trying so hard not to give a damn.


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« Reply #45 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 15:02:44 »
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This thread is FILLED with bigotry.
You ******* racists should be ASHAMED of yourselves for forming a factless opinion.

If you think i'm racist, that is quite ironic judging by what Israel's national flag is representing saying hey, Jews only!
Besides, i'm only talking about Israeli Zionist Jews.  My jewish friends are not zionist, therefore they are my friends.

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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 15:24:40 »
All you have to say is a link to an article from the unbiased wikipedia?  If you only source with wikipedia and only wikipedia, I understand your point.

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« Reply #48 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 15:37:54 »
So you say that Begin really said that?

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« Reply #49 on: Tue, 02 August 2011, 15:39:51 »
Quote from: csm725;391783
So you say that Begin really said that?

What, this quote?
"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."