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« on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:20:10 »
So how do you feel about him? Dish the dirt here.
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Re: Obama
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:21:51 »
seems chill

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Re: Obama
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:22:17 »
I hear that he doesn't like clicky mechanical keyboards and that's clearly stupid because the best switches click.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:29:12 »
I hear that he doesn't like clicky mechanical keyboards and that's clearly stupid because the best switches click.

Would it be better if he was into the reds?

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Re: Obama
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:30:18 »
Nope.  It doesn't even make sense that he's not into Blues, I guess he just likes his Blacks.  Probably the stiffer spring.


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« Reply #5 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:31:13 »
Nope.  It doesn't even make sense that he's not into Blues, I guess he just likes his Blacks.  Probably the stiffer spring.

His manly man hands need linear greys bro! Not even greens satisfy him.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:32:03 »
Nope.  It doesn't even make sense that he's not into Blues, I guess he just likes his Blacks.  Probably the stiffer spring.

His manly man hands need linear greys bro! Not even greens satisfy him.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:35:38 »
Nope.  It doesn't even make sense that he's not into Blues, I guess he just likes his Blacks.  Probably the stiffer spring.


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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:37:03 »
Sighhhhhayeaye....duck

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Re: Obama
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:38:02 »
Sighhhhhayeaye....duck

Hey at least I used the tame version of that gif :eek:

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:39:01 »
Sighhhhhayeaye....duck

Hey at least I used the tame version of that gif :eek:

That's was for tj. Not you :)

Gif away!

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Re: Obama
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:40:40 »
Sure thing, girlshark!



Edit: Made it smaller :P
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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 16:42:33 »
Sure thing, girlshark!

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Oh god..kill it with fire! Kind of looks like a buddy of mines ex...ugh

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Re: Obama
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 17:07:44 »
inb4 ron paul retards
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 17:38:40 »
Obama? Well I think he's essentially the same as Mitt Romney. A tyrant.

http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/271811-50-major-similarities-between-obama-romney.html

inb4 ron paul retards

inb4 statist retards. OH WAIT!

« Last Edit: Fri, 07 December 2012, 17:49:19 by keyboardlover »

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Re: Obama
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 18:43:27 »
Where's DanG with his avatar?  That pretty much sums it up:



Or from Clint Eastwood's perspective:



This too:

« Last Edit: Fri, 07 December 2012, 18:46:25 by Computer-Lab in Basement »
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Re: Obama
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 18:50:10 »
I heard he likes to kill people with drone strikes (especially children)...    Sometimes Americans too...

EDIT: aaannd I just lost all respect for demilk.
« Last Edit: Fri, 07 December 2012, 18:52:07 by WRXChris »

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Re: Obama
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 07 December 2012, 21:12:31 »
he's got nothing to lose now that he got his second term, but he's gonna fail this economic cliff or whatever it is, cuz he's the most castrated prez, someone should tell clinton to give his copy of "how to be a prez like a boss, get sexual favors, and have your stupid wife forgive you" to obama.

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Re: Obama
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Re: Obama
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Re: Obama
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 12:20:16 »
inb4 ron paul retards
This post is so much more amusing in the context of keyboardlover's one immediately after with the predictable "ron paul retard" inflammatory hyperbole.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 12:37:47 »
Actually I am not a RP supporter at all, but I like a lot of things about him.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 14:07:37 »
That still qualifies you as a "Ron Paul retard" though.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #23 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 14:12:24 »
Obama is not the president that USA should have, but he is better than the alternative.
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Re: Re: Obama
« Reply #24 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 14:24:58 »
That still qualifies you as a "Ron Paul retard" though.

Say wut? How so.

 
Obama is not the president that USA should have, but he is better than the alternative.

I think many people felt that either Obama or Romney were absolutely the "lesser of two evils" however in my research I was unable to actually find a single factual explanation why. In the end I determined that the only possible vote was one for evil. Which is how I realized that not voting is actually still a viable vote, depending on one's moral and ethical character.
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Re: Obama
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:46:33 »
I wanted Obama to win because upset conservatards are slightly more funny than upset libtards.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:49:35 »
Obama is not the president that USA should have, but he is better than the alternative.

I was so hoping for a Batman reference here.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 15:51:52 »
I wanted Obama to win because upset conservatards are slightly more funny than upset libtards.

Oh ok. Sometimes I think the surest sign of how big a charade the whole thing is, is how NOT seriously the majority of people take the whole thing. Lol.

Oh wait, people are dying as a result. NOT lol.
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« Reply #28 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 16:30:37 »
I like him, he's black.
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Re: Obama
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 16:38:06 »
i voted for Gary Johnson.

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« Reply #30 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:03:26 »
I like him, he's black.
Booo-ring... The Czech republic will hopefully have a blue president. That would be at least unique.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 17:07:54 »
I like him, he's black.
Booo-ring... The Czech republic will hopefully have a blue president. That would be at least unique.




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« Reply #32 on: Sat, 08 December 2012, 19:01:28 »
Obama is not the president that USA should have, but he is better than the alternative.

I was so hoping for a Batman reference here.
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Re: Obama
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 05:38:34 »
i'd definitely vote for franz if i were a czech citizen. i'm all racist pro blue people. and vladimir means "the owner of the world" by the way.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 07:35:57 »
My uncle coined the phrase "I'm outta here like Vladimir!"

Don't ask what it means. I think he was drunk.

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« Reply #35 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 08:19:52 »
I think many people felt that either Obama or Romney were absolutely the "lesser of two evils" however in my research I was unable to actually find a single factual explanation why.
Overall, I think that Obama has a mostly pragmatic approach, but that he has bad advisers and that he is too afraid to fight for change. He allows himself to be too limited by the political climate, a climate caused by politicians where many are corrupt. The Republicans seem to be ruled more by ideology than common sense.

The downturn in economy was caused by a systemic failure in the financial system which stems back to the '80s, with a reliance on flawed macroeconomic theory and a string of bad decisions made by Reagan, Clinton and "Dubya" that allowed high finance to cause the trouble that the economy is in. High finance wants to keep the current system, so that it can conduct business as usual.
Obama has a guy from high finance as his top advisor on the economy, but I don't think that Obama is completely convinced. Romney is part of high finance and has been outspoken about wanting to apply the values of high finance to the US gov's. economy.
What USA and the world needs is a US president that has a critical eye and is willing to reform. Don't expect the economy to recover any time soon.

Obama does not have a clue about Afghanistan but it looks like his heart is at least in the right place. The Afghan government is corrupt and the war is escalating. I don't think that Romney even cares.

Obama got Osama Bin Ladin shot instead of brought to trial. Bad move if you want to get people in that region on your side. I would not be surprised if Romney would have bombed the house instead.

Obama, as a president of one of the countries that emits most carbon into the air does practically nothing against climate change. USA has never been part of the Kyoto Protocol, and the current negotiations at Doha have not produced anything of value mainly because of the US and China. The US government could have taken a leadership position, but doesn't.
In ten-twenty years, you should expect a disaster at the scale of Katrina every year. There will be more draught and floods causing problems with food production. Bad weather will halter trade. The economy will turn worse in the long term because of climate change caused by the want for short-term profits. Don't expect FEMA to have many resources for helping the Bay Area (overdue for an earth quake) or Seattle (when Mt Rainier erupts).
On the other side, Romney is from a cult (Mormons) that welcomes Doomsday and does not think that it could come soon enough.

Obama is critical of Israel's conduct in Gaza and on the West Bank. Romney is from a cult (Mormons) that would do everything to help Israel, because.. again, a strong Jewish state in Israel becomes right before Doomsday according to their belief.

Which is how I realized that not voting is actually still a viable vote, depending on one's moral and ethical character.
There is not only the notion of voting for the candidate with the right views. The candidate must also have a chance of having influence, or otherwise your vote would be wasted.
If I was a US citizen, I would have voted for Obama only to help keep the other guy away.

Well, at least it was not Obama vs Palin. Palin would have been much worse.
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Re: Obama
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 08:31:27 »
Our financial problems are much deeper than you mentioned here and they actually go back to decisions which were made after WW2. What you have not mentioned here is one of the root problems - the Federal Reserve bank - which neither candidate had any plans to correct. Lowering or increasing taxes never works in terms of long-term financial success - and both candidates defended one of those viewpoints. And taxation - at it's very core in this country - is more dangerous than most people are aware. We are literally forced, under threat of gun/prison, to fund murder of innocent people and the creation of poverty. As you can see from the article I posted above (it is a must-read btw; the fact-checking is excellent), both candidates support NDAA indefinite detention and the abolishment of various other civil liberties, continued military presence overseas and increasing our control/policing the world, increased spending overall, etc. Neither ever had real plans to "fix the debt", nor do they plan to. Does it make sense for Americans? Yes. Does it make sense for the bureaucrats? No. Making us less prosperous as a people and less "free" is key to gaining control of a populace.

So, at the end of the day, I still feel strongly that whether or not you think the candidate is the "lesser of two evils" is completely up to your personal opinion - not on fact. I mean, why does anyone even trust Obama? He hardly made good on ANY of his promises from his initial campaign. Why the hell is Guantanamo Bay still open? He, like Romney, is a liar and not one to be trusted.

Not voting, to me, makes more sense than voting for a "lesser of two evils". Because I don't wish to take part in their charade; their game. AND, I do not wish to vote in favor of evil, in any shape or form. And not voting gives me that option.

Edit: I just remembered, one big reason why people thought Obama was the "lesser of two evils" was because of he didn't want to defund Planned Parenthood, which Romney had planned to do. However, RomneyCare is the same ****ing bill as ObamaCare (amazing how I find no one is aware of this btw) and INCLUDES comprehensive health services for women. So I'm like "Oh right, Obama cares more about women - well EXCEPT for the ones he drone bombs in the middle east".
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Re: Obama
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 08:38:58 »
you could have voted for non-republican / non-democrat candidate instead.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 08:42:39 »
you could have voted for non-republican / non-democrat candidate instead.

Yea but where does that get you in a system that is completely fixed by elites? Even the NRA, which supposedly helps its members keep their 2nd amendment right to bear arms, was bought out by the Romney campaign and LIED to their members about Romney's stance on guns (he enacted some of the strictest gun control measures ever in MA, in order in part to buy votes from Democrats - and he even admitted it!) I mean for God's sake, Ron Paul was BOOed on stage when he told people that the military is murdering people overseas! Not to mention he wasn't allowed to debate in all of the debates and was given MUCH less time than other candidates. But everyone's view on "equal rights" always applies to the interests of no one but themselves.

They know that people don't like the truth - it's scary and makes people feel weird/uncomfortable. It's easier to just go with what you've been fed.
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Re: Obama
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Re: Obama
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 09:30:33 »
^ Well said!

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Re: Obama
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 11:26:20 »
you could have voted for non-republican / non-democrat candidate instead.

Yea but where does that get you in a system that is completely fixed by elites? Even the NRA, which supposedly helps its members keep their 2nd amendment right to bear arms, was bought out by the Romney campaign and LIED to their members about Romney's stance on guns (he enacted some of the strictest gun control measures ever in MA, in order in part to buy votes from Democrats - and he even admitted it!) I mean for God's sake, Ron Paul was BOOed on stage when he told people that the military is murdering people overseas! Not to mention he wasn't allowed to debate in all of the debates and was given MUCH less time than other candidates. But everyone's view on "equal rights" always applies to the interests of no one but themselves.

They know that people don't like the truth - it's scary and makes people feel weird/uncomfortable. It's easier to just go with what you've been fed.
i see you don't believe in your chance to change this situation. but not voting does zero harm to the system anyways.
(...)Whereas back then I wrote about the tyranny of the majority, today I'd combine that with the tyranny of the minorities. These days, you have to be careful of both. They both want to control you. The first group, by making you do the same thing over and over again. The second group is indicated by the letters I get from the Vassar girls who want me to put more women's lib in The Martian Chronicles, or from blacks who want more black people in Dandelion Wine.
I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 11:31:14 »
i see you don't believe in your chance to change this situation. but not voting does zero harm to the system anyways.

Depends on your view, but without doubt it can be an important part of an overall encompassing goal to promote change based on all kinds of individual actions one can take. I won't get into all the details of that here though. If you'd like more info, shoot me a PM.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 12:32:22 »
OK, so from my perspective... one parent is all for Obama, the other not... so I have a pretty "even" load of bullcrap on either side.
As a teenager, I've had friends' parents lose their jobs, but also regain them. So, politics, to me, is irrelevant to how people choose to work and their work ethic. Yes, times are tough, yes, people aren't working hard. And yes people who were did lose their jobs, but blaming the government is silly, in my opinion.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 13:01:29 »
Well it's not completely irrelevant - the system of welfare HAS arguably created an entitlement society. Even Roosevelt warned that it would (when he created it, the jackass). It creates a negative change in the human spirit, creates poverty and keeps the poor, poor.

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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 13:10:02 »
Well it's not completely irrelevant - the system of welfare HAS arguably created an entitlement society. Even Roosevelt warned that it would (when he created it, the jackass). It creates a negative change in the human spirit, creates poverty and keeps the poor, poor.
Absolute pish. If that's the case how come places with the most comprehensive welfare systems like Nordic countries always have the most wealth per capita, lowest unemployment rates, highest cancer survival rates, etc. etc. and places with less welfare (the USA being the most obvious example as far as the developed world is concerned) have much poorer ratings in those measurements?

I mean, I'm not even pro-welfare/socialism because I'm rich and have private insurance and such, but I won't stoop to making blatantly BS arguments like yours to justify my position, I'll just admit it's because higher taxes in favour of a better social safety net isn't in my personal best interests.

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Re: Obama
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 13:15:28 »
The only European countries where it is currently "working" are so rich (like Norway or Switzerland) that, for now, it's not a big deal. That doesn't make it sustainable though. If my argument was blatantly B.S., then it would be...but it isn't. Try a better argument next time.

More info here: http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj16n1-1.html

All the European socialist countries which don't have a ton of money are either failing miserably, or are doing whatever they can to keep afloat. Like Germany, who is currently bankrupting Greece with the help of the conglomerate known as Siemens who obtained control of all their infrastructure due to bribery.

P.S. Anything I mention like this is very read-able with a quick Google search. I have no interest nor use for propaganda, "B.S." arguments, or anything of the like.
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Re: Obama
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 13:20:05 »
You're a naive lad, keyboardlover. Try seeing how things work in the real world instead of watching Ron Paul speeches and reading one-sided essays on the Internet.

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« Reply #48 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 13:23:54 »
You're a naive lad, keyboardlover. Try seeing how things work in the real world instead of watching Ron Paul speeches and reading one-sided essays on the Internet.

I get the sense that if you could effectively argue my position, you would, rather than reply like this :)

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« Reply #49 on: Sun, 09 December 2012, 13:31:54 »
You don't have a position to argue against. Your argument for why you think your opinion is correct is because you read an essay by a guy on the Internet that says so. Your entire philosophy on the issue is so transparently cliche and without personal thought that it's embarrassing. I live/work/travel in Europe, whilst you're parroting stuff you've read on the Internet or seen on the news. Southern Europe is failing because they're fundamentally crap for longstanding cultural/political reasons, not because they're socialist. Whilst the North is doing fine, even (perhaps especially) the more socialist ones such as Norway, Sweden, etc. Your argument is that they're doing well "because they're rich" whilst utterly oblivious to the fact that a large part of why they're rich is because of socialist policies such as universal, high-quality education, nationalised industries (e.g. North Sea oil), etc.
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