[Shipping Starting] LZ-GH Keyboard (taking LED options...)

[codyeatworld]

hellocodes - full green LEDs  and yes, a resistor next to every LED

Halverson - you won't need any resistors if you ordered LEDs since they are included.  As you didn't go for a full board you're only getting 2 LEDs and 2 resistors.  If you plan on adding LEDs you need 1 resistor for each LED.

Oh okay, thanks for the info.

[metalliqaz]

$60 shipping for one keyboard!?  You're kidding, right?

[Dianoda]

hellocodes - full green LEDs  and yes, a resistor next to every LED

Halverson - you won't need any resistors if you ordered LEDs since they are included.  As you didn't go for a full board you're only getting 2 LEDs and 2 resistors.  If you plan on adding LEDs you need 1 resistor for each LED.

Oh okay, thanks for the info.

Is it too late to change the color to white?

Is it possible to have just the resistors soldered on by you? I don't have my switches yet.

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the resistors used need to match the LEDs, so if alaricljs solders the resistors for you, you need to make sure the LEDs you are planning to use have the right voltage/mA specs.

[boost]

$60 shipping for one keyboard!?  You're kidding, right?

well, it cost me $60ish few times to get 1 keyboard from korea to the usa. This includes the shipping to you as well.



First wave of invoices sent:

Y      r3dx
Y      jdcarpe
Y      Danielucf
Y      Atakp
Y      Metalliqaz
Y      jcrouse
Y      TheProfosist
Y      tjcaustin
Y      DanGWanG
Y      rknize
Y      WRXChris
Y      feng
Y      blue6249
Y      Glissant

[sadbox]

Paid!

[jcrouse]

I thought the same thing about the shipping but as boost stayed, a single aluminum board from Korea is about $60 and this also includes the shipping within the US. I'm good with it.

Just got a duck poker today from over there and I think it was $57 shipping. Pics soon. 

John

[codyeatworld]

hellocodes - full green LEDs  and yes, a resistor next to every LED

Halverson - you won't need any resistors if you ordered LEDs since they are included.  As you didn't go for a full board you're only getting 2 LEDs and 2 resistors.  If you plan on adding LEDs you need 1 resistor for each LED.

Oh okay, thanks for the info.

Is it too late to change the color to white?

Is it possible to have just the resistors soldered on by you? I don't have my switches yet.

My (admittedly limited) understanding is that the resistors used need to match the LEDs, so if alaricljs solders the resistors for you, you need to make sure the LEDs you are planning to use have the right voltage/mA specs.

I have messaged alaricljs about this already, and you are right, thanks tho! 

No problem with that shipping price! I'm ready for my keyboard!!!

I thought the same thing about the shipping but as boost stayed, a single aluminum board from Korea is about $60 and this also includes the shipping within the US. I'm good with it.

Just got a duck poker today from over there and I think it was $57 shipping. Pics soon. 

John

Cant wait to see it!!

[alaricljs]

Resistors with test leads attached  - 1" squares


Resistor test rig

[metalliqaz]

I thought the same thing about the shipping but as boost stayed, a single aluminum board from Korea is about $60 and this also includes the shipping within the US. I'm good with it.

Just got a duck poker today from over there and I think it was $57 shipping. Pics soon. 

John

I got my Topre case sent 2nd day air express from China for $25.

[metalliqaz]

Resistors with test leads attached  - 1" squares
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Resistor test rig
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Why would one do such a thing?

[Dianoda]

Resistors with test leads attached  - 1" squares
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Resistor test rig
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Why would one do such a thing?

Probably trying to match brightness of different colors of LEDs.

Edit: also, to dial-in overall brightness versus power consumption as well.

[alaricljs]

To validate that the resistor values I chose work with the various LEDs.  The LEDs have a specific window of voltage input for the high voltage (~3.2v) and the low (~2.1v) colors.  I decided to use the fewest possible resistor values instead of 1 per LED color because at the low current allowance (3ma each LED) the difference in brightness did not merit the tiny differences in resistance.

Not wanting to just go on blind faith that I was right and the datasheets were right, I tested.

[emptythecache]

so is shipping really going to be $60/board in the US? Makes me contemplate driving the ~4 hours to Alaric's to pick mine up...

[alaricljs]

The large majority of that shipping is the Korean->US ship that you have to pay either way you get it from me.

[Glissant]

So, boost, are you saying that it cost you $1500-$2250 (varied because of unknown variable) to have the keyboards shipped to you? Because a rough estimate of shipping 90KG to USA from Korea seems to be around $575 or something like that. And domestic shipping without tracking for a keyboard shouldn't be more than, what, $16-$25 depending on size and weight?

Did you actually have to pay 50x$40 for the keyboards then? Because I'm pretty certain you don't pay that when shipping bigger packages.

And are we getting tracking on the package for $60?

[emptythecache]

The large majority of that shipping is the Korean->US ship that you have to pay either way you get it from me.

oh. screw it then. i'm not trying to drive through new york if i don't have to.

[metalliqaz]

To validate that the resistor values I chose work with the various LEDs.  The LEDs have a specific window of voltage input for the high voltage (~3.2v) and the low (~2.1v) colors.  I decided to use the fewest possible resistor values instead of 1 per LED color because at the low current allowance (3ma each LED) the difference in brightness did not merit the tiny differences in resistance.

Not wanting to just go on blind faith that I was right and the datasheets were right, I tested.

I just use the datasheet and Ohm's law.

[metalliqaz]

Paid.

EDIT: Yes Glissant, $42*50 = $2100 in shipping costs 

[boost]

So, boost, are you saying that it cost you $1500-$2250 (varied because of unknown variable) to have the keyboards shipped to you? Because a rough estimate of shipping 90KG to USA from Korea seems to be around $575 or something like that. And domestic shipping without tracking for a keyboard shouldn't be more than, what, $16-$25 depending on size and weight?

Did you actually have to pay 50x$40 for the keyboards then? Because I'm pretty certain you don't pay that when shipping bigger packages.

And are we getting tracking on the package for $60?

yes, it will be shipped priority mail.

These were shipped to me in 8 big boxes not as 1 big box.

[boost]

Paid.

EDIT: Yes Glissant, $42*50 = $2100 in shipping costs 

The 42 also includes the paypal fees to redline in korea

[Glissant]

I thought the paypal fee was covered in the original invoice?

[boost]

I thought the paypal fee was covered in the original invoice?

pp fees you see on the invoice covers the line items, and the "shipping from korea to me" has the pp fees built into that.

Also want to note that the shipping fee amount was laid out by redline

[tjcaustin]

I thought the paypal fee was covered in the original invoice?

pp fees you see on the invoice covers the line items, and the "shipping from korea to me" has the pp fees built into that.

Also want to note that the shipping fee amount was laid out by redline

Considering it has been said you're part of redline and in fact, your screenname is right there on the home page...

[metalliqaz]

I'm pretty sure he means that we paid paypal fees to pay for the LZ, then boost pays more paypal fees to send the shipping money.

I'm sure he can understand our shock, though, since the estimate in the OP was $20

[tjcaustin]

I'm pretty sure he means that we paid paypal fees to pay for the LZ, then boost pays more paypal fees to send the shipping money.

I'm sure he can understand our shock, though, since the estimate in the OP was $20

Touche, I didn't think about him having to reimburse someone else for shipping via paypal.  Other than the fact that if it's through a bank account or paypal balance, there are no fees.  Esp if he did it as gift, too.

And even if he did have to pay fees for it being an international transfer, the math still isn't quite adding up.

[boost]

LZ-GH Edition!!!
**Price does not include shipping the keyboards to me and will be divided later on and will be added to the invoice for shipping.

[tjcaustin]

LZ-GH Edition!!!
**Price does not include shipping the keyboards to me and will be divided later on and will be added to the invoice for shipping.

OMG, quoting something totally answers all my questions and concerns!

Thank you, boost for your wonderful, thought-out and reasoned response.

FFS bro, I know how to internet and I know (unless my weights are *way* off) how much the shipping actually cost.  I also know how paypal works.  If they wanted to make a profit, just say it instead of hiding behind unclear quotes as if that absolves you of any responsibility to logical questions.

[Glissant]

Yes, we were all aware of that part. That's not the issue here. You saying that it cost you something around $2000 to have them shipped to you is not working out. And it would be a lot easier if you just provided the numbers so that we can see what we are all paying for.
I would be more than happy to be proven wrong in this matter, but it's quite clear to me that there is obfuscation going on.
Could you also explain what you meant by "Also want to note that the shipping fee amount was laid out by redline"? Did you guys set a number for shipping the keyboards, and then count that in the profit as well?

[boost]

Total shipping before pp $2010.10
Pp fee 3.9%(int) $89.90

Price before pp fee per keyboard $40.20
$89.10/50=$1.782

[tjcaustin]

Total shipping before pp $2010.10
Pp fee 3.9%(int) $89.90

Price before pp fee per keyboard $40.20
$89.10/50=$1.782

And you shipped it with what service then?

Because unless those boxes weigh 3 times more than what I expect they do:  8 boxes = 6-7 boards a box.  1 board at 4 lbs makes each box a max of 28 lbs or 12.7 kg.

This makes each box shipped through EMS (via EMS rates page: http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300) to region three 113,200 won.  Multiply that times 8 to get 905,600 won or $810 (via XE.com).

If they used something more expensive, bully for them, but these half-answers are really not helping.

If they decided "Hey, we worked hard and deserve to be compensated for our time and effort", again, good for them, I have no problem with a business making money to pay employees.

But half answers and snarky quote posts don't help that go down smooth.

[boost]

They were shipped ems. Each keyboard weights 5lbs if that makes a difference...

[Dianoda]

Total shipping before pp $2010.10
Pp fee 3.9%(int) $89.90

Price before pp fee per keyboard $40.20
$89.10/50=$1.782

And you shipped it with what service then?

Because unless those boxes weigh 3 times more than what I expect they do:  8 boxes = 6-7 boards a box.  1 board at 4 lbs makes each box a max of 28 lbs or 12.7 kg.

This makes each box shipped through EMS (via EMS rates page: http://www.koreapost.go.kr/eng/sub/subpage.jsp?contId=e1020300) to region three 113,200 won.  Multiply that times 8 to get 905,600 won or $810 (via XE.com).

If they used something more expensive, bully for them, but these half-answers are really not helping.

If they decided "Hey, we worked hard and deserve to be compensated for our time and effort", again, good for them, I have no problem with a business making money to pay employees.

But half answers and snarky quote posts don't help that go down smooth.

Boards had an estimated design weight of 5lbs (for just the case), and you need to factor in the weight of packaging materials as well.  Also, shipping insurance.

[Glissant]

Well I see we're not going to get anywhere significant with this, so I'll just leave it at that.

Paid.

[Elrick]

Boards had an estimated design weight of 5lbs (for just the case), and you need to factor in the weight of packaging materials as well.  Also, shipping insurance.

Totally understandable.  Currently some in the US are crying about paying $60+ on shipping, welcome to my world.

In fact $60 shipping to my place here in Convict Town is way cheap.  Usually I now pay well over $90 to $120 for this type of service especially on a heavy keyboard.

I just wish I could receive mine soon.........but it won't happen......... .

[Patchwrks]

so was the invoice I just received for shipping here ?

[boost]

so was the invoice I just received for shipping here ?

Yep, more info in the notes of the invoice

[Kabuks]

Paid.

[Kayliss]

Thanks for all the effort so far Boost. 

[WRXChris]

Paid.  So looking forward to this; I've got 84 clear switches lubed, stickered, with 62g springs, ready to go!

[boost]

everyone should've gotten an invoice except a couple of int people that did not want soldering service. I will get the quotes for the int shipping and then send out the remaining invoices.

[metalliqaz]

Woohoo i got shipping notice!

[emptythecache]

I'm such an idiot. Boost sent me an invoice for $43 and I was like "are you sure this is for both my boards?"

[boost]

Thanks for that catch empty!!


On the side note, orders will start shipping on Tuesday as i will be picking up the stabs and leds from alaric this weekend.

[sadbox]

No tracking? That only makes me slightly nervous on the redonkulously expensive keyboard.... I would be happy to pay the few bucks extra for it =P

Is there insurance on it as well?

[boost]

No tracking? That only makes me slightly nervous on the redonkulously expensive keyboard.... I would be happy to pay the few bucks extra for it =P

Is there insurance on it as well?

No no, you will have a tracking just marked as shipped to keep pp happy

[Elrick]

On the side note, orders will start shipping on Tuesday as i will be picking up the stabs and leds from alaric this weekend.

Okay just paid $43.00USD for shipping.  Figured it's to have it shipped to alaric where he'll enjoy the misery of trying to put my monster together.  I do not envy him one bit  .

[Dianoda]

Paid, thanks.

[Turkishrambo]

will canadian/int invoices be going out soon? so we can get shipped on tuesday too?

[metalliqaz]

On the side note, orders will start shipping on Tuesday as i will be picking up the stabs and leds from alaric this weekend.

Okay just paid $43.00USD for shipping.  Figured it's to have it shipped to alaric where he'll enjoy the misery of trying to put my monster together.  I do not envy him one bit  .

Only 43?  How'd you manage that?

[Elrick]

Only 43?  How'd you manage that?

I just got the payment request from Ravi and I paid.  Simple.

I can only guess that the cost of having the keyboard shipped to alaric to start trying to put it together (have not seen anything of the LZ myself).  No one has contacted me saying that, because this type of GB is purely up to the individual to guess and assume.

Which might be dangerous here  .