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« Reply #100 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:06:33 »
The new hand is just so amazing, I can't stop wanting to hi5 it.

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« Reply #101 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:38:11 »
Next hand should be a brofist.
That way I can have all the fisting and hand jobs.
I'm pretty sure those are good things. I'm half French so please excuse my bad English.
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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:40:40 »
4 the moose

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« Reply #103 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:41:02 »
Next hand should be a brofist.
That way I can have all the fishing and hand jobs.
I'm pretty sure those are good things. I'm half French so please excuse my bad English.

LMAO. Fishing eh?
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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #104 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:42:47 »
Damn it! Auto correct sucks. I meant fisting.

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« Reply #105 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 10:43:13 »
I thought that was the joke LOL  :-*
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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 11:08:04 »
Fishing and hand jobs sounds relaxing.
I'll bring the beer.

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« Reply #107 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 11:09:19 »
You'll need more beer than that before these hands start jobbing.

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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 11:24:20 »
Uh... I don't see myself anywhere, Kawa :(
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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 17:28:19 »
too sessy 4 me

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« Reply #112 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 19:36:25 »
Now that's awesome!

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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 20:44:07 »
Whhaaaaat...this thread is exciting...

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« Reply #114 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 21:56:05 »
OG Binge-face is now Binge-cat

And the craziest fking key I've made besides old gregg.  Rose

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« Reply #115 on: Wed, 14 August 2013, 22:17:39 »
Why don't you tell me if you can find sifo in this crowd kawa???

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« Reply #117 on: Thu, 15 August 2013, 22:27:40 »
Dat bird!  Very cool.
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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 10:31:29 »
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« Reply #119 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 11:03:53 »
Odd outcome this morning...


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« Reply #120 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 11:15:33 »
I need more Moose cap in my life. A whole set is warranted.

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« Reply #121 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 15:23:10 »
without a doubt the best set that were ever poured!
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« Reply #122 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:19:40 »
getting close???

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« Reply #123 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:21:52 »
Hahaha! How much money am I going to owe you? I need to start preparing.

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« Reply #124 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:23:00 »
I'm jelly!

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« Reply #125 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:25:19 »
Hahaha! How much money am I going to owe you? I need to start preparing.

I'd say your pushing ~$400 ;) :P

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« Reply #126 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 16:38:16 »
Hahaha! How much money am I going to owe you? I need to start preparing.

I'd say your pushing ~$400 ;) :P

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Re: Hand-e-Cap
« Reply #127 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 10:55:51 »
More packages being mailed out this week.  R3 will start before R2 finishes getting shipped out.  This is only because of members who are asking for alterations to their order and my inability to wait to move on with these projects and refine the techniques.
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« Reply #128 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:04:50 »
so minor derail, but tj, you and i were talking the other night about taking resins, a single community vacuum or pressure pot and degassing these thermosets then sending them out like clay, unset in big chunks or small plastic containers. it makes no sense for literally everyone to have a bunch of vacuum and pressure equipment; it's expensive, it's dangerous, and it's only justifiable if you're moving volumes of caps.

binge, can you point me to the pots you were looking at and both you and tj, to the resins so i can get a good idea of what preparation is required to produce a thermoset block that is low-flaw bulk material and can be used for casting, mold making, etc?

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« Reply #129 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 11:52:27 »
so minor derail, but tj, you and i were talking the other night about taking resins, a single community vacuum or pressure pot and degassing these thermosets then sending them out like clay, unset in big chunks or small plastic containers. it makes no sense for literally everyone to have a bunch of vacuum and pressure equipment; it's expensive, it's dangerous, and it's only justifiable if you're moving volumes of caps.

binge, can you point me to the pots you were looking at and both you and tj, to the resins so i can get a good idea of what preparation is required to produce a thermoset block that is low-flaw bulk material and can be used for casting, mold making, etc?

I am sorry but you lost me here. what do you mean by unset? can resin really be partially cured and stored?

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« Reply #130 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:25:54 »
I'm a little fuzzy on those details myself... mailing cured urethane plastics would mean they are chemically inert.  When mailing the liquid does require a bit of special packaging and labels.

I would be worried about one person taking on the orders of various GHers because they would be liable for the use of the material and complications with defects.
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« Reply #131 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:46:12 »
I am trying to understand how this would work. you would still have to mix the resin and hardener and would still need a pressure pot to remove the bubbles.
the shaking action during shipping would cause more bubbles to occur in the product and it would need to be put in a pressure pot after pouring into a mold.
and... to make a mold that has a smooth finish instead of a matte finish you still... need a pressure pot.

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« Reply #132 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:48:43 »
I am trying to understand how this would work. you would still have to mix the resin and hardener and would still need a pressure pot to remove the bubbles.
the shaking action during shipping would cause more bubbles to occur in the product and it would need to be put in a pressure pot after pouring into a mold.
and... to make a mold that has a smooth finish instead of a matte finish you still... need a pressure pot.


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« Reply #133 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:49:34 »
I am trying to understand how this would work. you would still have to mix the resin and hardener and would still need a pressure pot to remove the bubbles.
the shaking action during shipping would cause more bubbles to occur in the product and it would need to be put in a pressure pot after pouring into a mold.
and... to make a mold that has a smooth finish instead of a matte finish you still... need a pressure pot.

I think the idea is more of a crowd accessible work force of people who will make mold/casts for geekhack.

When he says thermoplastics I believe he also means the possibility of ABS etc.  That's much different than what we've been doing up to this point Domo.
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« Reply #134 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:53:10 »
Oh ok. :)

So far I am really good at making molds.
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« Reply #135 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 12:58:51 »
between the two of us we can pretty much handle the east and west coasts :p  possibly getting to use the machines we acquire in order to assist in various projects.

If my sister's husband ever gets into computer aided injection molding we might even have some access to abs castings.
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« Reply #136 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:09:01 »
you can ship the uncured degassed thermosets under vacuum in a bag or hard container if it is filled under vacuum. it isn't inert, but as long as it's not flammable it is shippable.

you may be right that everyone has to have a pressure pot anyway because when you attempt the molding you have to take it out of vacuum at some point.

as far as injection molding thermoplastics is concerned, the limiter there is, as usual, tooling. i have been working pretty hard to make machining accessible and there is a long term plan that will allow me to do small scale machining for low pressure mold tooling, but serious mold tooling has to be done at a large gb level. it makes some sense because precise tooling is so expensive that it's only more efficient than positive or negative prototyping and low volume production machines (mills, lathes, grinders, straight up filing, ffm, FDM, etc.) if your volume is very very large.

and yes, there is community mold-making already. abs molds for keycap sized parts are very very possible to build with FFM printers, hand tools and a few solvents.
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« Reply #137 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:12:27 »
oh one more thing. partial curing IS actually possible with some resins. BUT it's a pretty special property, so i don't know how accessible these kinds of setting polymers are.

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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 14:58:39 »
BRILLIANT POSTS!  ;D

I'm getting so fired up to make new molds/casts!
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« Reply #139 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:29:00 »
Fyi.... success! I guess i can stop whining about clears!

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« Reply #140 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:30:29 »
Fyi.... success! I guess i can stop whining about clears!

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« Reply #141 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:41:00 »
Fyi.... success! I guess i can stop whining about clears!

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« Reply #142 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:09:24 »
Fyi.... success! I guess i can stop whining about clears!

Win!  That pretty much solidifies my purchases for this next week.
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« Reply #143 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:17:39 »
Fyi.... success! I guess i can stop whining about clears!

Win!  That pretty much solidifies my purchases for this next week.

Heh.  Solidifies.  :D

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« Reply #144 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:54:15 »
Fyi.... success! I guess i can stop whining about clears!

Win!  That pretty much solidifies my purchases for this next week.

crystal clear 200 is very very temperamental. it has a 16 hour cure time and I post cured it for 1 hour afterwards then let it cool for another hour before demolding.
I would pick a much faster resin next time like poly-optic 1410
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edit: 1410 is also a much harder resin when finished

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« Reply #145 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:06:46 »
maaan give 326/327 a try.  Great results even with simple pour casting.
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« Reply #146 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 21:25:00 »
maaan give 326/327 a try.  Great results even with simple pour casting.

for others that have no idea what we are saying ....

I plan to do caps in clear, solid colors and black

clear = smooth-on crystal clear 200 = 80D 16 hour cure time + 4-6 hour post cure @ 150F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

clear = poly-optic 1410 = 80D 2 hour cure time  + 4-6 hour post cure @ 150F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

solids = smooth-on 325 = 72D = 10 minute cure time + 4-6 hour post cure @ 150F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

black = smooth-on onyx fast = 80D =  15 minute cure time + 4-6 hour post cure @ 250F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

DO NOT POST CURE IN YOUR KITCHEN OVEN!!!
toxic fumes from the resin can get you and your family very ill.
use a toaster oven and wrap your mold & casting in foil first.



edit: 70D/72D/80D this is how hard the resin gets.

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« Reply #147 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 23:20:13 »
maaan give 326/327 a try.  Great results even with simple pour casting.

for others that have no idea what we are saying ....

I plan to do caps in clear, solid colors and black

clear = smooth-on crystal clear 200 = 80D 16 hour cure time + 4-6 hour post cure @ 150F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

clear = poly-optic 1410 = 80D 2 hour cure time  + 4-6 hour post cure @ 150F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

solids = smooth-on 325 = 72D = 10 minute cure time + 4-6 hour post cure @ 150F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

black = smooth-on onyx fast = 80D =  15 minute cure time + 4-6 hour post cure @ 250F + 1 hour cooldown then demold

DO NOT POST CURE IN YOUR KITCHEN OVEN!!!
toxic fumes from the resin can get you and your family very ill.
use a toaster oven and wrap your mold & casting in foil first.



edit: 70D/72D/80D this is how hard the resin gets.

325 is not solid, it is clear

320 is solid white
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« Reply #148 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 23:40:22 »
anyways... your caps look awesome! I can't wait to see more!

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« Reply #149 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 23:55:28 »
awesome you say?

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