WTS- keychains skull

[hoasican2004]

Clickclack has pm to me.
My keychains maybe infringe copyright . So I will close topic. Thanks for all 

[BunnyLake]

i want one, tell me how to pay

[lcs]

want one!

[keymaster]

Inb4 sh!tstorm

[SpAmRaY]

[jwaz]

Have you checked the VToS?

[Tym]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43873.msg902980#msg902980

VTOS

[jwaz]

^ Thanks Tym.

OP: Read through that before continuing with this thread.


EDIT: and if you decide to create a vendor forum for this product just let me know and I can move this thread.

[MTManiac]

waiting for vendor tag

[AGmurdercore]

This is sick! GLWS!

[Sai]

cant send money lol

[duc_nckt]

very nice bro, i take one :3.

[Rendom]

hi, i'm interested in 3. : )

[MOZ]

Nice, although design is very similar to CC Skull

[Badwrench]

Once VToS is figured out, I am in.   

[ekw808]

Wow, that is a pretty blatant ripoff, you couldn't even add 5 teeth instead of 4??

[snoopy]

or use another geometry for nose, eyes and forehead?

[elttaboi]

what's wrong? i think it's a cool design..   

[MKULTRA]

You guys do know what the skull is right...?

whiskerBox reminded me of some skeletor keys I made long ago.
When I saw his post in my other thread I honestly remembered making them as he
had colored them. However it looks like I had tried to capture the more traditional look of
the character through my design.

[domoaligato]

It is really close to the click clack design is why they are getting all upset.
this is also for profit so the member needs to become a vendor.

[SpAmRaY]

It is really close to the click clack design is why they are getting all upset.
this is also for profit so the member needs to become a vendor.

What about all the other selling good's they have 'made' for a profit?

And is the OP really making a profit at $4/unit?

I just ask because there are 'others' who make and sell things here in the classifieds who have done so for a while who are not vendors.

[esoomenona]

It is really close to the click clack design is why they are getting all upset.
this is also for profit so the member needs to become a vendor.

He could just post it in the GBs section. Then he doesn't need to become a vendor.

[domoaligato]

this is threadcrapping at it's best. groupbuys would say that the more people buy them the cheaper they get.

that is not stated here. so it is just a straight sale.

[Alessandro]

Inb4 sh!tstorm

In during ****storm.

[MTManiac]

so if I understand all the TC correctly he needs to:
repost this in the GB section
charge 15 a pop and write up a moq so everyone needs to buy 100+ to get it to the $4 price range
or get a vendor tag
just curious as to his options

[esoomenona]

so if I understand all the TC correctly he needs to:
repost this in the GB section
charge 15 a pop and write up a moq so everyone needs to buy 100+ to get it to the $4 price range
or get a vendor tag
just curious as to his options

1) Post in group buys
2) Charge whatever you want
3) ? ? ? ?
4) Profit = running a GB, so do whatever you want

[SpAmRaY]

so if I understand all the TC correctly he needs to:
repost this in the GB section
charge 15 a pop and write up a moq so everyone needs to buy 100+ to get it to the $4 price range
or get a vendor tag
just curious as to his options

Maybe these cost $8 to make and ship so we are just gifting him his costs.

[MTManiac]

so basically if you are 'crafting' anything you need to make it a GB or get a Vendor tag?
classifieds is for something already created you are selling or want to buy, or if you are trolling waters?

[SpAmRaY]

so basically if you are 'crafting' anything you need to make it a GB or get a Vendor tag?
classifieds is for something already created you are selling or want to buy, or if you are trolling waters?

no one really knows.....that is the problem 

but it probably depends on who you are, just like everything else 

[Tym]

I think the problem occurs when he's making a profit, if he said "These cost me $4 to make [Look these are my costs]" then you'd be fine. He is acting as a vendor without being a vendor.

[SpAmRaY]

I think the problem occurs when he's making a profit, if he said "These cost me $4 to make [Look these are my costs]" then you'd be fine. He is acting as a vendor without being a vendor.

I dunno I just saw a cool keychain and for $8 total with half that being shipping I didn't think it was too bad of a deal. And at first I was thinking he only had one of these.

[domoaligato]

lets wait for the op to respond to all this...

[longweight]

Nice CC rip off.

[hoasican2004]

I like a new design keychain, and I design it for me. Then I made its,  it is residual ~20 keychains. And I think I can sell for someone who like it. I don't think I will being a real vendor

[MOZ]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

[MKULTRA]

You guys do know what the skull is right...?

whiskerBox reminded me of some skeletor keys I made long ago.
When I saw his post in my other thread I honestly remembered making them as he
had colored them. However it looks like I had tried to capture the more traditional look of
the character through my design.

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Just gonna re-interate this, CC doesn't own the character.

[Sifo]

Sifo is in.

Obviously...

I love keychainxs

[MOZ]

We know what the skull is, my point is, the design is a direct ripoff.

[hoasican2004]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

We know what the skull is, my point is, the design is a direct ripoff.

 I think CC Skull design is so great. And I'm very like this. If I violate this copyright, I will close topic. But I think, I made it different, and has very small quantity. This is a  small devotee of CC ^_^

[domoaligato]

I think it kinda looks like a zoidberg skull click clack.
I would be pissed off if I was cc and I wanted to do a zoidberg skull in the future.


edit: you even have the curve across the forehead like cc....

[Photekq]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

Dude, this is a keychain not a keycap. It's not as if he's trying to replicate CC skulls (something I don't think anyone could do) Hoasican liked CCs skulls so much he turned them into something new. Unless CC himself has a problem I don't see a problem personally.

[domoaligato]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

Dude, this is a keychain not a keycap. Hoasican liked CCs skulls so much he turned them into something new. I don't see what everyones problem is..

in the interest of having a constructive conversation about copyright infringement...
monster energy makes energy drinks with there logo on it.
if you made a monster energy drink t-shirt you would be breaking there copyright.

yes you didn't make another energy drink called monster energy drink to confuse customers and scam off them. but you would be infringing on the copyright no less.

this is why ebay is constantly scanned for fake rolex's, nike's, tiffany jewelry, sports apparel, you name it.

[ekw808]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

Dude, this is a keychain not a keycap. Hoasican liked CCs skulls so much he turned them into something new. I don't see what everyones problem is..

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24463.msg667991#msg667991

Time after time, sad that the 4grabs has 57k views, but the FAQ barely has 4

[keymaster]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

Dude, this is a keychain not a keycap. Hoasican liked CCs skulls so much he turned them into something new. I don't see what everyones problem is..

in the interest of having a constructive conversation about copyright infringement...
monster energy makes energy drinks with there logo on it.
if you made a monster energy drink t-shirt you would be breaking there copyright.

yes you didn't make another energy drink called monster energy drink to confuse customers and scam off them. but you would be infringing on the copyright no less.

this is why ebay is constantly scanned for fake rolex's, nike's, tiffany jewelry, sports apparel, you name it.

...but is the CC skull design even copyrighted?

[domoaligato]

look at the post above you.

He shouldn't have to file copyrights/trademarks as members should have respect for his products.

He can file for pre-dated copyrights/trademarks based on his posts and other stuff he probably already has.

[Blazed]

look at the post above you.

He shouldn't have to file copyrights/trademarks as members should have respect for his products.

He can file for pre-dated copyrights/trademarks based on his posts and other stuff he probably already has.

Are you seriously knocking people for copying things? Hmmm... stones... glass houses... etc...

[Photekq]

And the design resembling CC Skull design?

Dude, this is a keychain not a keycap. Hoasican liked CCs skulls so much he turned them into something new. I don't see what everyones problem is..

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=24463.msg667991#msg667991

Time after time, sad that the 4grabs has 57k views, but the FAQ barely has 4

I think I worded my post wrong. Edited.

I really can't believe I haven't seen the FAQ before, but after reading it it's probably fair to say this keychain may not be something CC wants being sold.

[meiosis]

I wonder why all the elitists who care about clacks are the ones getting hurt (while on CC himself should be angry).

Honestly I don't even think OP owns a clack, and this is far from reality copyright infringement. There is no case, as the clack itself is copyrighted not the overall picture. You cannot recreate a clickclack, but the image is still there. Sure, it might not have been the best thing to do, but I'm sure if clackfactory was against this and messaged him, he would change the design. I mean just the concept in itself sells.

[MOZ]

I wonder why all the elitists who care about clacks are the ones getting hurt (while on CC himself should be angry).

Honestly I don't even think OP owns a clack, and this is far from reality copyright infringement. There is no case, as the clack itself is copyrighted not the overall picture. You cannot recreate a clickclack, but the image is still there. Sure, it might not have been the best thing to do, but I'm sure if clackfactory was against this and messaged him, he would change the design. I mean just the concept in itself sells.

I did receive a PM from clickclack after I apologized to him for adding the mockups for the ceamocap with the CC skull. He appreciated the gesture but made it clear that his design may not be used for reproduction in any manner.

[meiosis]

I wonder why all the elitists who care about clacks are the ones getting hurt (while on CC himself should be angry).

Honestly I don't even think OP owns a clack, and this is far from reality copyright infringement. There is no case, as the clack itself is copyrighted not the overall picture. You cannot recreate a clickclack, but the image is still there. Sure, it might not have been the best thing to do, but I'm sure if clackfactory was against this and messaged him, he would change the design. I mean just the concept in itself sells.

I did receive a PM from clickclack after I apologized to him for adding the mockups for the ceamocap with the CC skull. He appreciated the gesture but made it clear that his design may not be used for reproduction in any manner.

He is still human after all, his methods are indeed admirable  .

He enjoys what he produces, and the quality reflects he does not profit much if at all from what he puts out. From what I read in his FAQ, the only reason he doesn't mass produce these is because it's become more of a treasure hunt and barter system, that while he knows people out there are profiting greatly, it would go against popular construct to crush the economy completely and make the friends he care about "lose" money or "value" in what they invested in.

Again, CF might be far far different then me, but thats how I see it from his perspective