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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1500 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:54:51 »


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1501 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:55:58 »
how about new rule, if you can't afford food you can't be buying clacks.

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Re: fake clack discussion
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1503 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:56:54 »
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too.  Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related).  So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1504 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:57:12 »
how about new rule, if you can't afford food you can't be buying clacks.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1505 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 22:59:23 »
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too.  Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related).  So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?

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« Reply #1506 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:01:03 »
So, things like this happen in reddit. I received this message a while ago:

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I came across your post a couple days ago, and I think your work's amazing. I have been looking for a few specific kinds of keycaps recently, (scull, gas mask, brobot, etc...) and I was wondering if you would be willing to replicate some? I love the ones you make (the chihuahua especially) but I'm looking for more simplistic caps, and I thought if anyone could replicate them, it'd be you. If you'd consider doing this, just PM me back. Thanks for your time!
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1507 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:02:21 »
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too.  Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related).  So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1508 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:02:54 »
The bashing in this thread should stop here, too.  Obviously this is a place to discuss the fake clacks, and not a place to insult users for whatever they might be doing (unless it's related).  So let's keep that to PMs, mmkay?


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1509 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:02:58 »
Quite conceited to think people got zapped due to one person's begging... It wasn't even you begging that got you the cc....
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1510 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:03:23 »
So, things like this happen in reddit. I received this message a while ago:

Quote
I came across your post a couple days ago, and I think your work's amazing. I have been looking for a few specific kinds of keycaps recently, (scull, gas mask, brobot, etc...) and I was wondering if you would be willing to replicate some? I love the ones you make (the chihuahua especially) but I'm looking for more simplistic caps, and I thought if anyone could replicate them, it'd be you. If you'd consider doing this, just PM me back. Thanks for your time!
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1511 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:03:46 »
how about new rule, if you can't afford food you can't be buying clacks.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1513 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:08:45 »
does the vader design belong exclusively to CC? i know the his skulls are his copyrighted trademark.

No, Vader is Lucas' now Disney's IP.  That said, this particular iteration is Clack's interpretation of it and, once again, K3 just cloned it.

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Re: fake clack discussion
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1515 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:19:47 »
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Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night!   ^-^

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Re: fake clack discussion
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1517 on: Sun, 18 January 2015, 23:56:10 »

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Bro, if you don't slow down, you're gonna eat more popcorn than I did last night!   ^-^

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1518 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 03:50:59 »
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1519 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 04:06:12 »
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...

Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1520 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:06:33 »
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...

Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?

AFAIK he's done some original colors?

Notably the Amethyst set.


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1521 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:22:37 »
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...

Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?

AFAIK he's done some original colors?

Notably the Amethyst set.



wasn't that after he had already made fakes though? I thought the first batch he did where the ones sold as real clacks and then he came out with his own 'brand' and then made awful looking ****??

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1522 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 08:57:41 »
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...

Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?

AFAIK he's done some original colors?

Notably the Amethyst set.



wasn't that after he had already made fakes though? I thought the first batch he did where the ones sold as real clacks and then he came out with his own 'brand' and then made awful looking ****??

Luckily, he's been kind enough to use a k3 mark from the start. Even in his first sale that was the red blue and yellow ones. Just makes finding the **** easier.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1523 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:01:16 »
What is really disappointing is k3 obviously has some skill at cap making, it is so sad he chose to copy/clone versus innovate. I think he could have really done something worthwhile had he came out with his own cap designs.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1524 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:02:37 »
What is really disappointing is k3 obviously has some skill at cap making, it is so sad he chose to copy/clone versus innovate. I think he could have really done something worthwhile had he came out with his own cap designs.

Agreed. For as much talent as he has, he could've made bank.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1525 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:08:17 »
I like how every fake he makes he posts it in original colours, like the brain dead child he is. His imagination can't even stretch to making his first clone in a diffrent colour, no instead we get to see how flawed each of his ****ty clones is before he sells them for the same price as CC...

Does he need Ripester to give him idea's for colours or something?

AFAIK he's done some original colors?

Notably the Amethyst set.



wasn't that after he had already made fakes though? I thought the first batch he did where the ones sold as real clacks and then he came out with his own 'brand' and then made awful looking ****??

IIRC there was confusion about his first batch but there are clear visual indicators that show that the CCs were fakes (besides the fact that they were stamped with his signature instead of CF)

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1526 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:45:24 »
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1527 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:49:35 »
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.

I think that most people willing to pay aftermarket for a clack have been in this hobby for long enough to be able to tell the difference in quality between a k3kc keycap and a real one.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1528 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:50:38 »
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.

I think that most people willing to pay aftermarket for a clack have been in this hobby for long enough to be able to tell the difference in quality between a k3kc keycap and a real one.

Which is kinda why this thread was made ;)

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1529 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:52:45 »
The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.

he did a few of those

as far as i know they never left veitnam and hasn't done any more since

at least that's what one of the veitnamese admins told me when i asked

could be bs, i never saw pics and he might've just wanted me to go away

The stuff he has been public with has the K3 logo. There is nothing stopping him from producing stuff in the background with the FXE or CF logos and trying to flip them on eBay or somewhere else. If the guy is unscrupulous enough to rip off CC's entire portfolio of designs I don't see what would stop him from making keys with CC's logo on the bottom to try and make some bank.

I think that most people willing to pay aftermarket for a clack have been in this hobby for long enough to be able to tell the difference in quality between a k3kc keycap and a real one.

Which is kinda why this thread was made ;)

FAKE clack discussion, you are correct

this is definitely not the therapy thread.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1530 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 09:56:42 »
SORRY, I thought it was implied that I was talking about FAKE clacks...

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1531 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:03:54 »
SORRY, I thought it was implied that I was talking about FAKE clacks...

i just woke up and that post was ass

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1532 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:20:10 »
No worries, I was only snarky because some halfwit decided to have a 'debate' with me about nurses on Facebook and would routinely do things like capitalise SAVING LIVES etc...

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1533 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:20:49 »
Well that was interesting to read .-.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1534 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:21:32 »
The color differences are noticeable, taking the HSV + alpha channel color characterization.

Original:
Color (hue):  bluish-grey black
Color (alpha): high opacity.

Copy:
color (hue): reddish coca cola tinted black.
color (alpha): slightly transluscent (noticeable on the (1) edges and in (2) same elevation zone, the original bounces more light).



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Re: fake clack discussion
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« Reply #1536 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 10:31:34 »
.-.

That upside down face tho

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1537 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:03:17 »
So did he mold Clack's Vader or did he sculpt it himself?  Seems like there are some minor differences, but there's only so many ways to make a Vader keycap...
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1538 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:03:48 »

So did he mold Clack's Vader or did he sculpt it himself?  Seems like there are some minor differences, but there's only so many ways to make a Vader keycap...

Mold, edit, remold is my guess

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1539 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 11:13:36 »

So did he mold Clack's Vader or did he sculpt it himself?  Seems like there are some minor differences, but there's only so many ways to make a Vader keycap...

Mold, edit, remold is my guess

Ayyy that really is crappy then.  I wouldn't have as big an issue if he did his own scuplt from scratch.  Appears he's still doing his same MO of wasting his talents ripping off others...God I hate fake crap. //resisting going on a fake crap rant
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1540 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:22:01 »
 :blank:*yawn* :rolleyes: all this talk about this guy seems to making him famous rather than infamous...he deserves no fame nor notoriety by any stretch of the imagination. I hope Bro Caps, and CC, can nail this slug for reels.  :mad:
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1541 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:49:18 »
If he would just put in a sliver of creativity in making his own molds I'm sure he could be one of the best artisan cap makers.
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1542 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:53:02 »
If he would just put in a sliver of creativity in making his own molds I'm sure he could be one of the best artisan cap makers.

His credibility is shot...

His fan base credibility is shot...

And people still talk about him...reminds me of Geraldo Rivera, haha!
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1543 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:54:24 »
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1544 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:56:40 »
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item



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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1545 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 12:59:35 »
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item


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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1546 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:01:26 »
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

It has nothing to do with being casuals and everything to do with a sense of entitlement.  They all feel entitled to having one, so they support counterfeits so they can get one.

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1547 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:04:00 »
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there
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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1548 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:04:41 »

Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there

Maybe he has many siblings

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Re: fake clack discussion
« Reply #1549 on: Mon, 19 January 2015, 13:05:27 »
Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

That and the fact that ripster has made the whole of r/mk about how ****ty gh is and that the aftermarket price of clacks is essentially gh's fault and r/mk is just 'normal people' wanting these cool caps but geekwack is stopping them... etc etc etc


Every single comment denouncing his counterfeits on reddit has been downvoted to hell. Like -20. I guess that's what happens when you get a bunch of casuals who don't feel like putting any effort into acquiring a rare item

It also helps that k3 has about 12 accounts over there

Maybe he has many siblings

No wonder he had to up the price!