fake clack discussion

[Signature]

Looking at it, I'm also pretty sure that the face is indented and the teeth are wrong.

Looks like the skull have a teeth overbite disorder
Edit: Nvm it's the gumrot variant but I can swear it looks different

[eyesmiles]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

I didn't receive anything myself but tbqh I honestly don't care anymore. I've been enjoying Cherry/GMK doubleshots than novelty key caps nowadays. I probably will get rid of any remaining clacks I own sometime soon or perhaps give them to my nephews.

Anyways, the images look to be the same "ice blue" that's been around. The texture near the 'cheek' areas looks off. The bottom of the cap looks machined and precise. Inside corners look sharp. CC would probably point out more

[rowdy]

Another fake clack spotted

That sucks

Hopefully it is just another one of the old batch that was overlooked.

Did you PM CC?  As much as he's not well at the moment, he should know about this.

[Tym]

Another fake clack spotted

motha ****ing koreans

Do you honestly not see that? Or are you intentionally a massive racist?

[strict]

I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . 

clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.

Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?

That'd be amazing, I loved the Bro Caps episode!

Anyone have a link to this?

[billnye]

I agree Click Clack should be more Vocal here. Bro Caps is very vocal and I dont see anyone getting away with copying his work. So Clack needs to stand up and be more active as well . 

clickclack has been around for over 3 years, Bro Caps has been active less than 1. I'm pretty sure people aren't copying Bro Caps because his first design was stuff, and his second design has been sent to only a handful of people.

Incoming GH Geekcast with CC?

That'd be amazing, I loved the Bro Caps episode!

Anyone have a link to this?

http://thekeyboardlounge.com/geekhackin-2/

[Fire Brand]

Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.

All versions of IE are the same.  They are all just pieces of ****.

I logged in just to say that was a good one

And did he really not send you anything fatter sending the fake one in metal :/

[clickclack]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch! ;)

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

[Pacifist]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

cc replies are the best

[BunnyLake]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

we all appreciate what you do sir

clack on

[Sniping]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

cc replies are the best

I think the smiley face is the cherry on top.

[Lu_e]

Another fake clack spotted

How do you know its fake without looking at the bottom? :S

Also, if you look at the bottom left corner you can see an imperfect edge.

[ApocalypseMaow]

How have I missed this thread?!?!?!

This gives Click Crack a whole new meaning!

[Belfong]

Despite all of the challenges CC faced, he continue to churn out awesome caps at such high quality. I am even more appreciative of his work. All Grand Masters in their craft became successful without mere
coincidence and behind the scene are the constant struggles that RL throws at one. History have proven this. Take care CC.

[sth]

You Guys! I have an idea.

Maybe if i post in this thread in support of Charles Clack and against Foreign ClibClab manufactures he will shine his golden shine upon the world and i will receive this Covetous Cool Click Clack Cey.

Rah rah

[Fire Brand]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

Aww well thats good thats good that everythings getting sorted out yay, I like meez too click :x and I need to edit that post its hard typing on a tablet :x well its good that everything has come to clicks view again, me thinks he should aim the lasers at the creater of these >_>

[dustinhxc]

Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.

All versions of IE are the same.  They are all just pieces of ****.

<33

 ) ) ) ) ) ) )



Oh no, fake clacks again... ;o


CC you are so odd, I love it..  ) 

[beartung]

fake CC? Oh no... I think there are no fake ones...

[microsoft windows]

Who cares if they're fake? They look to be just about the same thing. After all, they're just little pieces of plastic.

All versions of IE are the same.  They are all just pieces of ****.

YOUR LOGIC IS MISSING. INTERNET EXPLORER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PLASTIC KEY CAPS. INTERNET EXPLORER, ESPECIALLY IE6, IS VASTLY SUPERIOR TO ANY KEY CAP ON THE PLANET THOUGH. SO YOU'RE WRONG. END OF DISCUSSION.

[Pacifist]

fake CC? Oh no... I think there are no fake ones...

Well there are

[esoomenona]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

idkman. I feel like I like yoo and yoo dnt liek me...

[IPT]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

idkman. I feel like I like yoo and yoo dnt liek me...

lets hug it out man!

[Michael]

-I like yooz peeps.

[SpAmRaY]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=62119.msg1448342#msg1448342

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448404#msg1448404

Just a warning to everyone, more fake clacks have appeared.

[IvanIvanovich]

[iri]

oh, IvanIvanovich is an immortal now. how cute.

[Puddsy]

As far as I can see with my Koreans, they're coming out of Vietnam this time. It looks like it may be associated with drugER.

If you have pics of fake clacks I want them for comparison.

[snoopy]

sad day

[bueller]

sad day

Very sad. CC has worked on these for years and sold them at incredibly affordable prices, put up with probably thousands on PMs and now someone comes along and does this. Disgusting.

[Michael]

It's tough, but not impossible to enforce IP rights violations in Vietnam:


http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam


http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/


With a little bit of work, I think CC can get something going there.

[BlueBär]

It's tough, but not impossible to enforce IP rights violations in Vietnam:


http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam


http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/


With a little bit of work, I think CC can get something going there.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448707#msg1448707
Might not only be CC.

[domoaligato]

As far as I can see with my Koreans, they're coming out of Vietnam this time. It looks like it may be associated with drugER.

If you have pics of fake clacks I want them for comparison.

whois info confirms Vietnam.

[Michael]

It's tough, but not impossible to enforce IP rights violations in Vietnam:


http://www.nibusinessinfo.co.uk/content/registering-and-enforcing-intellectual-property-rights-vietnam


http://talk.onevietnam.org/state-of-intellectual-property-and-copyright-in-vietnam/


With a little bit of work, I think CC can get something going there.

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39794.msg1448707#msg1448707
Might not only be CC.

Oh don't worry, I am doing my research for the both of us. I also have copyrights on my V2 design

[Puddsy]

how does the copyright work?

i thought you could only patent a design

[HoffmanMyster]

how does the copyright work?

i thought you could only patent a design

Patents are *typically* for ideas or novel methods to do things.  Designs are usually copyrighted.  At least that's my understanding, it may very well be more complicated.

[exitfire401]

how does the copyright work?

i thought you could only patent a design

Patents are *typically* for ideas or novel methods to do things.  Designs are usually copyrighted.  At least that's my understanding, it may very well be more complicated.

There are a lot of basic terms that muddy the waters between patent and IP law. Once you look at the legal jargon (if you can comprehend it) it becomes a lot more clear what is what. In layman's terms, yours is a decent description hoff.

[HoffmanMyster]

how does the copyright work?

i thought you could only patent a design

Patents are *typically* for ideas or novel methods to do things.  Designs are usually copyrighted.  At least that's my understanding, it may very well be more complicated.

There are a lot of basic terms that muddy the waters between patent and IP law. Once you look at the legal jargon (if you can comprehend it) it becomes a lot more clear what is what. In layman's terms, yours is a decent description hoff.

That's my least favourite part of the whole ordeal.    But yeah, my understanding is at a fairly high level (ie, not too great), so I can only really describe it in basic terms.  I'm no legal expert.

[dustinhxc]

Damn more? I PMd CC a couple months back as well about someone on KBDMania with a fake clack.. Damn these people..

[Puddsy]

Damn more? I PMd CC a couple months back as well about someone on KBDMania with a fake clack.. Damn these people..

that was drugER

this is not drugER

it's bad

[Lastpilot]

btw when did pacifist move to vietnam?

[P3TC0CK]

Can someone explain to me why there is such a concern for protecting the IP of Click Clack when he has violated IP of whoever currently owns Star Wars? Just because one is part of the community and another is owned by a corporation doesn't make CC's violations anymore right.

I know there are less vaders than the other keycaps and that it doesn't make what the copycats are doing now anymore 'right', but it's all a bit ridiculous. If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.

[hwood34]

btw when did pacifist move to vietnam?

)

[dustinhxc]

Damn more? I PMd CC a couple months back as well about someone on KBDMania with a fake clack.. Damn these people..

that was drugER

this is not drugER

it's bad

Damn... 

[Puddsy]

Can someone explain to me why there is such a concern for protecting the IP of Click Clack when he has violated IP of whoever currently owns Star Wars? Just because one is part of the community and another is owned by a corporation doesn't make CC's violations anymore right.

I know there are less vaders than the other keycaps and that it doesn't make what the copycats are doing now anymore 'right', but it's all a bit ridiculous. If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.

as far as he's said he's not violating IP by making vader caps

i forget why, but he's given a reason before explaining why it's OK

[Grim Fandango]

This whole affair pissed me off.  First I got ripped off in a trade, then CC offers me a different key so he can get his hands on the fake, then stiffs me.  I would have kept the fake!  It was obviously cheap but once installed didn't look that bad.

Ouch!

Sorry about the delay, I seemed to have a number of members miffed (not as many as you might think though) at any given moment while I'm stuck playing the ruthless game of catch up. I'm extremely grateful that you were generous and willing to help me out, I'm deeply sorry I cannot return the favor just yet. I'm rather close but not quite ready and I am excited that I can soon return this favor.

 I am thousands of emails behind on any given day and I'm battling a rather unfavorable signal to noise ratio regarding them. Post-it notes, day planners, reminders of various natures all become awash of significance but difficult to discern notation. Then add in a rather incomprehensible dose of easily 80+ hour work weeks, family medical issues, personal health issues, and I hope one can then imagine and perhaps even appreciate the difficulty in wrangling the unreasonable.

I'm doing what I can with what I got and I am guaranteed in advance that it will not be enough. That's a tough thing to swallow when you're pushing yourself this hard. So why bother? I bother because it generates motivation and I seem to subsist on the challenges of trying to earn the position and praise that I sometimes receive.

I am extremely grateful for what many have done for me in this community and similar venues. Trust me, I couldn't forget it or not act on it if I tried.

clack out!

 

For the tl;dr crowd-

-I like yooz peeps.
-Some of yooz peeps likes me.
-Thank yooz for everything.
-I'm often slow to respond.
-Kumbaya.



-cc  =)

The real question on everyone's mind is,

Can't you get your gnomes to do it?

[P3TC0CK]

Can someone explain to me why there is such a concern for protecting the IP of Click Clack when he has violated IP of whoever currently owns Star Wars? Just because one is part of the community and another is owned by a corporation doesn't make CC's violations anymore right.

I know there are less vaders than the other keycaps and that it doesn't make what the copycats are doing now anymore 'right', but it's all a bit ridiculous. If you were OK with Vader caps and the selling of them then you should be OK with what the counterfeiters are doing.

as far as he's said he's not violating IP by making vader caps

i forget why, but he's given a reason before explaining why it's OK

They're definitely not protected under fair use, so they're derivative works. Anything derivative needs the permission of the creator of the original work. Some artists/creators don't mind their work being derived so they allow fan art to be created (I'm sure Disney is fine with this) but as soon as money enters the equation it's a whole other story.

The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the author’s observations; use in a parody of some of the content of the work parodied; summary of an address or article, with brief quotations, in a news report; reproduction by a library of a portion of a work to replace part of a damaged copy; reproduction by a teacher or student of a small part of a work to illustrate a lesson; reproduction of a work in legislative or judicial proceedings or reports; incidental and fortuitous reproduction, in a newsreel or broadcast, of a work located in the scene of an event being reported.”

link.

Article from Etsy regarding fair use. I think it's applicable seeing as Etsy is a market for artists of very similar crafts as CC.

[dustinhxc]

Wow man.. Didnt think it was this bad..  WTF

[Puddsy]

exitfire

you can't ban these accounts

I'm trying to get info from them

and I don't know if you saw

BUT THEY'RE LITERALLY FEEDING US INFORMATION

[exitfire401]

exitfire

you can't ban these accounts

I'm trying to get info from them

and I don't know if you saw

BUT THEY'RE LITERALLY FEEDING US INFORMATION

Not banning.

[Lastpilot]

First off let me say I am totally against these fakes.

Last time I was overseas in Hong Kong and Philippines it looked like there are fakes of everything including huge million-billion dollar brands. I mean if they can't control counterfeit products how can one-man-shows like brobot and clickclack fight against it? Is there a fight to be made concerning overseas counterfeit products?

There may be a way to stop them from selling to United States, but I feel like no matter what there will be fakes overseas. :[