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« Reply #200 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:28:29 »
Police responded to a 911 call, and the suspect walked toward the officers' vehicle and put his hand on his waistband, pulled out a knife and held it in an "overhand" position, above his shoulder, Dotson said.
The chief said the officers got out of their vehicle and drew their weapons, telling the man to drop the knife, but he continued to advance, reportedly saying "Shoot me, kill me now."
When he got within 4 feet of one officer, both cops fired their weapons at the man, who has not yet been identified. Dotson said that witnesses described it as "suicide by cop."


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Now you have to ask yourself....did they have a taser or stun gun they could have used?

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« Reply #201 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:33:10 »
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/lawyer-county-refuses-pay-medical-bills-toddler-hu/ng3s9/

HABERSHAM COUNTY, Ga. — Habersham County officials say they do not plan to pay for the medical expenses of a toddler seriously injured during a police raid.
The toddler was just 19-months-old and asleep in the early morning hours of May 28. SWAT officers threw the device into his home while executing a search warrant for a drug suspect.


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« Reply #202 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:35:16 »
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/

When the Ferguson police department released the name of Darren Wilson, they also chose to release video footage which they claimed was of Michael Brown robbing a convenience store for some cigars.

The problem is, the video shows Michael Brown at the register, paying for the cigars.





You sure he wasn't robbing the place? I didn't see anybody paying for anything. And in another video it shows the clerk trying to stop them from leaving and walks out after them etc.



Another shooting ~4 miles from ferguson.....guy with a knife trying to steal some energy drinks.

Whatever words were exchanged between the man in the video and the store owner, they were not considered very serious, as the store owner nor the employees did not report a theft at the store. According to the stores attorney, the owners were bewildered when the police approached them demanding the surveillance tapes.

The store owners are now afraid of themselves becoming a target, due to the Ferguson PD’s attempt to tie their store to the fateful shooting.


yes, b/c when i pay for something i reach over the counter and hand it off to my friend behind me, while my other friend is "allowed" to put items in his pocket, then i'll pay again by reaching over the counter and then i'll reach over the counter again and grab my paid for items with enough force that they fall down and drop on floor, then i'll offer some of my bought stuff to a random customer and just walk off without a bag, cuz i care about the environment.

rule 1 of being a store clerk, never let anyone reach over anything, b/c then they're stealing.

rule 2 if they steal, fck it, no use reporting it to the crappy police anyway, cuz then you have to write up reports and shiz.

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« Reply #203 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:39:00 »
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/lawyer-county-refuses-pay-medical-bills-toddler-hu/ng3s9/

HABERSHAM COUNTY, Ga. — Habersham County officials say they do not plan to pay for the medical expenses of a toddler seriously injured during a police raid.
The toddler was just 19-months-old and asleep in the early morning hours of May 28. SWAT officers threw the device into his home while executing a search warrant for a drug suspect.

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I saw that when it happened....very tragic and the county board acting like they want to pay the bills but legally can't....really.....I'm sure something could be worked out.


Also ...Jesse Jackson has the answer to the problems in Ferguson.

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Jackson said there is no reason why the predominantly African American city should not be represented by more black police officers, noting there are only three on the force of about 50.

"There are a group of [African American] veterans who live here who've been to Iraq,'' he said.

"They're qualified to serve in the military to defend us abroad, and they can defend their own neighborhoods at home, [so] there is no lack of qualified black policemen.

"When black and white police ride together you're more likely to have better race relations."

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« Reply #204 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:48:01 »
Innocent bystander fatally shot by OPD officer last night here in Orlando

Collateral damage - really sad.

Not to take away from the current Ferguson situation-- just sayin

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-1-dead-orlando-police-shooting-vixen-20140819,0,825317.story


cigar company across the street....clearly cigars must be made illegal and banned now.

Lol

You are onto something sir.... Ill be keeping my eyes peeled


Why do you think we banned Cuba?

Uncle Sam was really upset that Red got to keep access to those sexy Latinas on the island

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« Reply #205 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:51:24 »
Yeah right. I trust less cops my own race than white cops. They feel superior to you because they feel like they have to proof they arent "one of us".

This has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with lack of accountability on cops.
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« Reply #206 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 16:52:13 »
Yeah right. I trust less cops my own race than white cops. They feel superior to you because they feel like they have to proof they arent "one of us".

This has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with lack of accountability on cops.

There are Mexican cops?

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« Reply #207 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:00:05 »
Yeah right. I trust less cops my own race than white cops. They feel superior to you because they feel like they have to proof they arent "one of us".

This has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with lack of accountability on cops.

There are Mexican cops?

IF THERE AREN'T THERE SHOULD BE....mexicans are the majority race in this country....everyone knows that.

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« Reply #208 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:17:24 »
Hispanics aren't the majority.. yet ;)

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Re: Riots in Saint Louis!
« Reply #209 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:43:21 »
http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/08/ferguson-store-owner-says-he-doesnt-believe-thats-mike-brown-on-surveillance-video/

Through their attorney, the owner of the store also even dispute the claim that they or an employee called 911. They say that a customer inside the store made the call. This is pretty strange if this was indeed a “robbery”.

As well, in addition to clarifying that they never said they believed, nor identified the suspect with Michael Brown, they claimed that the St. Louis County issued the warrants for the hard drive of surveillance video Friday, based on the police claiming that Brown fit the description of the person in the video… the person who the owners and employees of the store were not even going to call the police on. Again, the owner clarifies that neither the management, nor any employee ever identified Brown as the suspect in that video.

You must be a grade A moron. Isn't it obvious that these shopkeepers want nothing to do with this story? Shop owners are buying guns like crazy because they know if looters come, the police will do nothing for fear of Barack Obama, Rev. Al Sharpton, and the rest of the race-bating industry.

http://fox2now.com/2014/08/15/store-owners-talk-about-surveillance-released/

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The attorney for the owners of the store says the owners do not wish to be wrapped up in the middle of this. They are simply complying with police orders and again the attorney wanted to emphasize the 911 call did not come from the owners or an employee.

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Re: Riots in Saint Louis!
« Reply #210 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 17:54:19 »
Uncle Sam was really upset that Red got to keep access to those sexy Latinas on the island

*cackles* Cuba's a communist **** hole -- it's the Alcatraz of the Caribbean.
Their 'sexy Latinas' are probably wearing government-issued rags and trying to figure out a way to fit a surfboard with an outboard motor. She's completely willing to drink her own urine while crossing the Gulf of Mexico, if that's what it takes to escape Fidel Castro's Communist Paradise!

http://www.thecubanhistory.com/2011/10/1145/

Yeah -- Communism has been so good for Cuba that the only way to escape is to convert a 1959 Buick into a boat.



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Re: Riots in Saint Louis!
« Reply #211 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 18:26:07 »
i must have missed it, but who was praising Cuba?

Pretty sure they were making a joke of the cigar comment. But man, did you fly off the handle.
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« Reply #212 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 19:01:56 »
Yeah..


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« Reply #213 on: Tue, 19 August 2014, 19:08:11 »
Hispanics aren't the majority.. yet ;)

That's what  THEY want you to think.

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« Reply #214 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 01:13:44 »
I am THEY I guess..

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« Reply #215 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 01:41:31 »
Would be so nice when Latinos are the majority in USA. Spanish is so much better than English.
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« Reply #216 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 04:24:11 »
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« Reply #217 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 07:04:28 »
I am THEY I guess..

Sorry...by THEY I always mean the US Government  >:( ??? :-\

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« Reply #219 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 07:33:20 »
I am THEY I guess..

Sorry...by THEY I always mean the US Government  >:( ??? :-\

Ah.. I'm definitely not THEY :o

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« Reply #221 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 10:02:12 »
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« Reply #222 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 10:04:53 »
Cops threatning to kill journalists/protestors.

These cops dumb as ****.
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« Reply #223 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:20:57 »
Cops don't know how to camera apparently.. lol

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« Reply #224 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:30:52 »
Cops don't know how to camera apparently.. lol

To be fair, they have spent the last week trying to damage and dismantle them...

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« Reply #225 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:46:50 »
Cops don't know how to camera apparently.. lol

To be fair, they have spent the last week trying to damage and dismantle them...

Yes, they hate and fear having to camera!

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« Reply #226 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 12:57:04 »
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« Reply #228 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:50:22 »
Question: a black man threatens police officers with a knife. They shoot him to death as an act of self-defence. Why don’t shoot him in the feet? For what reason shoot him in chest and head? Is this murder? Questions like these lead to riots, for reason.
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« Reply #229 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 13:59:20 »
He was within 4 feet of the officers, which is considered lethal threat range with a knife.  I think I read that on the article.  He was also, literally asking for it.  I have very little problem with that shooting, I have some problem with the Mike Brown shooting, but none of it approaches the level of the insane police response to the initial mourners/protestors following the shooting.

Also..

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/by_the_numbers_93_percent_of_protesters_arrested_monday_night_arent_from_ferguson.php

"It is of note that 93 percent of those arrested were not Ferguson residents," Schellman says. "Of all those arrested, 27 percent were not residents of Missouri."

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« Reply #230 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:07:24 »
Thanks for clarification of fact, cmadrid!


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« Reply #231 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:08:08 »
Question: a black man threatens police officers with a knife. They shoot him to death as an act of self-defence. Why don’t shoot him in the feet? For what reason shoot him in chest and head? Is this murder? Questions like these lead to riots, for reason.

Police shoot for center mass, nobody tries to shoot in the feet. What if they miss and hit someone else? And it didn't have to be a black man, they are taught to shoot center mass on anyone that is an immediate danger.

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« Reply #232 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:12:24 »
Police shoot for center mass, nobody tries to shoot in the feet. What if they miss and hit someone else? And it didn't have to be a black man, they are taught to shoot center mass on anyone that is an immediate danger.

Yes, they shoot with lethal ammunition at lethal body parts, even when they didn’t get hurt yet (from a knife!), this is what I critisize for beeing inappropriate. Here in Germany we have a case where a man feels threatened at night by someone he believes as a thief, and shoots him to death. Then it turned out that it was his wife!

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« Reply #233 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:14:14 »
Police shoot for center mass, nobody tries to shoot in the feet. What if they miss and hit someone else? And it didn't have to be a black man, they are taught to shoot center mass on anyone that is an immediate danger.

Yes, they shoot with lethal ammunition at lethal body parts, even when they didn’t get hurt yet (from a knife!), this is what I critisize for beeing inappropriate.



So you would rather they wait until they are stabbed to take action?

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« Reply #234 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:16:39 »
So you would rather they wait until they are stabbed to take action?
You know that there are ALOT of methods to disable someone without killing him. You know that pretty well. A knife is a joke for someone who is trained at martial arts.
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« Reply #235 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:24:27 »
The trigger happy officer didn't had any non-lethal weapons on him such as a baton, pepper spray or tazer ???  ? ? ? ?

You know cops, are not known to carry anything like that with them, ever, right??

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« Reply #236 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:24:32 »
Police shoot for center mass, nobody tries to shoot in the feet. What if they miss and hit someone else? And it didn't have to be a black man, they are taught to shoot center mass on anyone that is an immediate danger.

Yes, they shoot with lethal ammunition at lethal body parts, even when they didn’t get hurt yet (from a knife!), this is what I critisize for beeing inappropriate. Here in Germany we have a case where a man feels threatened at night by someone he believes as a thief, and shoots him to death. Then it turned out that it was his wife!

Was the guy a cop? Because it wouldnt be relevant if he wasn't. Shooting in the center is the point of all of it. Guns are deadly weapons, they don't shoot to injure. It is easy to second guess after the fact.

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« Reply #238 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:28:17 »
So you would rather they wait until they are stabbed to take action?
You know that there are ALOT of methods to disable someone without killing him. You know that pretty well. A knife is a joke for someone who is trained at martial arts.
stop spreading bull****.
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« Reply #239 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:38:56 »
So you would rather they wait until they are stabbed to take action?
You know that there are ALOT of methods to disable someone without killing him. You know that pretty well. A knife is a joke for someone who is trained at martial arts.


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/08/19/zerline-maxwell-knife-karate

:facepalm:

One reporter said they didn't understand why they couldn't have just thrown a net over the attacker.

And apparently at close range a knife can easily win a gun fight if the gun is still holstered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
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« Reply #240 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 14:39:51 »
I would have shot that guy if I was the cop..



http://www.aclu-mo.org/newsviews/2014/08/20/aclu-asks-col-replogle-remove-inappropriate-officer


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« Reply #241 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 15:00:18 »

I'm beginning to wonder why there aren't more riots in other places.

and here's one for the taser happy

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/parents-consider-legal-action-after-south-dakota-police-use-taser-f8C11366222
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« Reply #242 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 15:38:51 »

I'm beginning to wonder why there aren't more riots in other places.

and here's one for the taser happy

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/parents-consider-legal-action-after-south-dakota-police-use-taser-f8C11366222

Probably because race-baiting is absent most of the time. Abuse of authority by police is a huge problem in the U.S., without a doubt, but what I stay away from is the race-baiting that occurs in scenarios where race had little to do with the end result. Instead, people should be upset about the rapid militarization of America's police since the 1990s. Why do they need military-grade equipment that was on display during the Boston incident and now in Ferguson? Pretty scary and makes future wide-scale dissent via protests/riots nearly impossible.

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« Reply #243 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 15:52:30 »
so stupid drunk guy trespasses on a friends home, sitting on the porch playing with a garden hose, and the first sign of human contact, he points it in their direction with 2 out stretched hands? drunk ppl are dumb.

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« Reply #244 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 15:59:20 »
The idiocy shown by some of these cops could be fixed if the job requirements & wages for law enforcement was increased to reduce the
amount of former mall cop's gone trigger happy...

Like, get them up to Dog the Bounty Hunter's status at least..

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« Reply #245 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 17:44:50 »
The idiocy shown by some of these cops could be fixed if the job requirements & wages for law enforcement was increased to reduce the
amount of former mall cop's gone trigger happy...

Like, get them up to Dog the Bounty Hunter's status at least..

Nah--that would take more taxes from the citizens to instate

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Re: Riots in Saint Louis!
« Reply #246 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 21:20:25 »
Or instead of constantly demanding more money.. the government could stop spending trillions of dollars blowing up huts in the middle east/northern africa/central asia

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Re: Riots in Saint Louis!
« Reply #247 on: Wed, 20 August 2014, 22:15:23 »
The idiocy shown by some of these cops could be fixed if the job requirements & wages for law enforcement was increased to reduce the
amount of former mall cop's gone trigger happy...

Like, get them up to Dog the Bounty Hunter's status at least..

Cops purposely hire people with a low iq
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

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Re: Riots in Saint Louis!
« Reply #249 on: Sat, 23 August 2014, 11:05:41 »
http://www.reddit.com/r/ferguson was looking for reddit infos subreddit really seems to slant a certain way.