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[Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 19:53:28 »
Update Add-on Keys:


Here I choose two of Datacomp's Keyboard to try Big Shaped-L Enter

For Datacomp, The long stem of Enter Key will go down and pass through PCB.

1. Zowie Celeritas /w Miami



2. SteelSeries 7G /w Red&Black



Update my received order:


I am lazy to try all of colors, choose black/yellow to take pictures.
Installed with KBP v60



Compare to other 60%


Update full set pictures,
notice: add-on keys are depend on demand, not standard products.

Key caps box:


Key caps frame:



1. Yellow/Black


2. Orange/Black


3. Red/Black


4. Miami


Hi Geekers,

Tai-Hao is developing many new products recently.
I just received these samples last night, They provide me FOUR solutions in Bi-Color sets.



1. Red/Black


2. Yellow/Black


3. Orange/Black


4. Likely Miami


Current information:
*. OEM profile
*. Thin molding


I will take pictures later to compare with below PBT keycaps I have on my hand and update in this OP :)
1. Vortex thin
2. Vortex thick
3. Keycool
4. Leopold
5. Noppoo
6. Cherry
7. SP


MOD EDIT: Fixed image links.
« Last Edit: Mon, 16 March 2015, 00:50:19 by sdiearly »
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps with PBT
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 19:56:28 »
Interesting. They're not thick, but they might be fine even for a board I care about.
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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 20:46:36 »
Hmm, seem decent, especially for how cheap they'll likely be
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« Reply #3 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 21:17:32 »
Hopefully I can buy a complete orange/black and black/orange set if these become available in a group buy.
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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 23:22:13 »
Tai Hao are generally reasonable keycaps, especially for the money.  Remember that they have been producing keycaps for a long time, so they've pretty much works out all the kinks.

The legends are also very consistent, which does greatly improve the look of a keycap set.

The price of these will be interesting.  Hopefully it will be in a similar range to the existing ABS sets.
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« Reply #5 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 23:28:37 »
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 23:38:41 »
I'd be in for a PBT Miami :p

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 18 December 2014, 23:59:52 »
how to they compare to dsa in terms of thickness?

do the sides have the same texture as the top?
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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 00:13:27 »
Any reason you're doing Toxic Lite, Nostalgia, and Miami instead of something original?  Don't get me wrong, I love affordable Tai Hao sets, but we should strive to be doing something original instead of a remake of someone's sets. 

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« Reply #9 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 00:47:50 »
Oh god, Looks great! I have to work harder  :D

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« Reply #10 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 01:31:51 »
I'd be in for a PBT Miami :p

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« Reply #11 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 01:43:13 »
Sweet bajesus, double-shot PBTs.

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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 02:46:11 »
I am definitely in for the Miami set, it looks fantastic

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« Reply #13 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 03:25:56 »
I am liking the Orange / black would be down for a couple sets

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 06:21:09 »
Wow. Look greats ;)

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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 06:48:24 »
Interesting looks stuff. I'm not too bothered about material to be honest, I do like them to be thick though and not a found of OEM profile, perhaps in the future Tai Hao would look to have a Cherry/DCS profile or SA/tall profile, which I don't think would be happening soon or ever.

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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 11:10:38 »
PBT douleshot with Cherry profile would be fantastic, and IMO they would be better keycaps than SP ones. You can expect that Tai-hao will finally add novlties to their product. I don't care about whether it is wyse or Helvetica on my keybds, I only care whether it is cherry font or not. 
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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 11:22:39 »
awesome, I'm totally down with them cloning some of the popular sets.
If the miami comes out, I'd deff buy.

Spending $100 for a abs set, no thanks, but if I can get a copy set for $20-30, I'm in.

I'm still waiting on my ollivette set from one of the GB's on here though. Should be in early next year.
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 11:59:46 »
Any reason you're doing Toxic Lite, Nostalgia, and Miami instead of something original?  Don't get me wrong, I love affordable Tai Hao sets, but we should strive to be doing something original instead of a remake of someone's sets.

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 13:59:30 »
Any reason you're doing Toxic Lite, Nostalgia, and Miami instead of something original?  Don't get me wrong, I love affordable Tai Hao sets, but we should strive to be doing something original instead of a remake of someone's sets.

As ever nubbs has got it bang on.

If you've ever looked at how a lot of these Asian companies produce products (especially Chinese companies) you'll notice that they start out making clones, copies, or budget versions of existing products then slowly branch out.

If you can release something that is successful in the broader market, then you can start developing your own niche products. The example sets are pretty niche outside of the enthusiast market (I love my miami key cap set, but there isn't a huge demand for them outside of GH, Reddit, etc) so making an entirely new set would require a lot of advertising/convincing on their part which they probably don't want to do.
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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 19 December 2014, 14:49:06 »
Tai Hao is old and established, not new and are already large and succesful, finally breaking into the niche market with retailers like Newegg. 

Given that we have done GBs with them in colors we requested, I don't doubt that these colors were requested instead of doing novel colors.  Even if they weren't, the push should be for novel ideas and we should be working with the manufacturer to realize the concept.

I would like to see new schemes, not rehashed.

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« Reply #21 on: Sat, 20 December 2014, 18:44:26 »
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« Reply #22 on: Sat, 20 December 2014, 19:13:18 »
Just for confirmation: The profile is Cherry like? Because Vortex DS PBTs are OEM profile, now a full set of the Vortex is at $20 usd at Massdrop, thus these caps should be even cheaper.

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 20 December 2014, 19:23:17 »
Just for confirmation: The profile is Cherry like? Because Vortex DS PBTs are OEM profile, now a full set of the Vortex is at $20 usd at Massdrop, thus these caps should be even cheaper.

OP says OEM profile.
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« Reply #24 on: Sat, 20 December 2014, 22:25:33 »
These look good...i'd be in for a set if the price is reasonable
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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 11:29:05 »
Another big round of applause for Tai Hao, in making value sets so inexpensively. I think in the long run competition from Tai Hao will bring down prices for everyone.
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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 15:12:51 »
all of this sets look good
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« Reply #27 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 17:09:52 »
I wonder if they'll ever come out with some cherry profile keys.

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 21 December 2014, 18:39:24 »
I do not use an standard ANSI nor ISO layout, thus, the main drawback from these sets is there is no alternative keys, like 1.75u 3rd row control, 1.5u 2nd row back space, 1.75u right shift, and so. I suppose their low cost prevent to produce any short runs for such special keys.

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 00:11:23 »
Update pictures in our forum,
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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 14:46:11 »
Is there a release date yet?

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 20:54:39 »
Thanks for the picture comparison!

For those who can't read Chinese: Generally the texture of Tai-Hao caps is much smother than other caps listed above except Cherry/GMK caps.
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 23 December 2014, 21:18:31 »
Tai Hao is old and established, not new and are already large and succesful, finally breaking into the niche market with retailers like Newegg. 

Given that we have done GBs with them in colors we requested, I don't doubt that these colors were requested instead of doing novel colors.  Even if they weren't, the push should be for novel ideas and we should be working with the manufacturer to realize the concept.

I would like to see new schemes, not rehashed.

Yes, obviously.

In the meantime, why can't we just be happy for cheap PBT doubleshots?

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 24 December 2014, 01:03:46 »
Thanks for the picture comparison!

For those who can't read Chinese: Generally the texture of Tai-Hao caps is much smother than other caps listed above except Cherry/GMK caps.

Now I am on the fence, I dislike the smooth texture of the POMs on my Noppoo  :-\

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 24 December 2014, 06:51:16 »
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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 26 December 2014, 07:46:52 »
Tai Hao is also researching backlit keycaps.  No idea if they are PBT though.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 26 December 2014, 08:53:31 »
Tai Hao is old and established, not new and are already large and succesful, finally breaking into the niche market with retailers like Newegg. 

Given that we have done GBs with them in colors we requested, I don't doubt that these colors were requested instead of doing novel colors.  Even if they weren't, the push should be for novel ideas and we should be working with the manufacturer to realize the concept.

I would like to see new schemes, not rehashed.

Yes, obviously.

In the meantime, why can't we just be happy for cheap PBT doubleshots?

We can be, I'd just like to see innovation instead of taking the work of others without talking to them first.  Did they talk to Daniel, Bunny, or Lysol/Ivan before they did Miami, GH Nostalgia, and Toxic redux?  If they did, fine, if not, come on, take a chance and do something original.  There are literally hundreds or thousands of combinations they could do, ones I know people would love to see.

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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 04:39:41 »
Just found this thread.

Very interesting indeed ....if only those keys weren't OEM Profile...

But knowing myself I'd probably order one of each anyway, because you can't go wrong with these prices :D

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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #38 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 05:22:18 »
Update full set pictures in OP.
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 05:34:03 »
Update full set pictures in OP.

Thanks  :thumb:

I really like the orange/black set!

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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 12:59:35 »
Update full set pictures in OP.

Yeah the orange set looks good. Do you know if they will make Olivetti this way?
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 13:03:36 »
Very nice. Light years better than the Vortex PBT doubleshots. Will definitely pick up a couple sets -- I have been pleased with Tai Hao's ABS keycaps -- looking forward to these.
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 13:14:30 »
Can't wait for these!! Any ideas on when they'll be available?
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 16:59:44 »
Is anyone else not able to see the new pictures added to the OP?

When I first looked on my phone I could see them?  Now they are not even showing up in Firefox.


This is why Chrome is saying it can't display them

"403. Thatís an error.

Your client does not have permission to get URL /0b8ttEFa50dCe1UXV9oDdCpMSUZH7YS0KarUoOvrtKjVuhwcs-bGsJX0ysjIOeSLgB6k_Lk3KYMJzOMC6XyOfW0SBJWS7T_g=w1242-h560 from this server.
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #44 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 17:49:41 »
I get same error.

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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 18:02:28 »
I hope they will also produce PBT sets with Alps/Matias-mount stems.

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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 19:11:35 »
Is anyone else not able to see the new pictures added to the OP?

When I first looked on my phone I could see them?  Now they are not even showing up in Firefox.


This is why Chrome is saying it can't display them

"403. Thatís an error.

Your client does not have permission to get URL /0b8ttEFa50dCe1UXV9oDdCpMSUZH7YS0KarUoOvrtKjVuhwcs-bGsJX0ysjIOeSLgB6k_Lk3KYMJzOMC6XyOfW0SBJWS7T_g=w1242-h560 from this server.
(Client IP address: 2601:3:1380:566:3dd9:e5d0:8b1:b151)

Forbidden Thatís all we know."

These images are saved in google drive, I have open the access right to everyone.

Maybe you need google account?
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 15 January 2015, 23:11:53 »
Is anyone else not able to see the new pictures added to the OP?

When I first looked on my phone I could see them?  Now they are not even showing up in Firefox.


This is why Chrome is saying it can't display them

"403. That�s an error.

Your client does not have permission to get URL /0b8ttEFa50dCe1UXV9oDdCpMSUZH7YS0KarUoOvrtKjVuhwcs-bGsJX0ysjIOeSLgB6k_Lk3KYMJzOMC6XyOfW0SBJWS7T_g=w1242-h560 from this server.
(Client IP address: 2601:3:1380:566:3dd9:e5d0:8b1:b151)

Forbidden That�s all we know."

These images are saved in google drive, I have open the access right to everyone.

Maybe you need google account?

You can shared link folder images, right?

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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 16 January 2015, 00:03:17 »
Is anyone else not able to see the new pictures added to the OP?

When I first looked on my phone I could see them?  Now they are not even showing up in Firefox.


This is why Chrome is saying it can't display them

"403. Thatís an error.

Your client does not have permission to get URL /0b8ttEFa50dCe1UXV9oDdCpMSUZH7YS0KarUoOvrtKjVuhwcs-bGsJX0ysjIOeSLgB6k_Lk3KYMJzOMC6XyOfW0SBJWS7T_g=w1242-h560 from this server.
(Client IP address: 2601:3:1380:566:3dd9:e5d0:8b1:b151)

Forbidden Thatís all we know."

These images are saved in google drive, I have open the access right to everyone.

Maybe you need google account?

Hmm.  Yeah I'm always signed in to my Google account.  I wonder if it's something on GH's end? 

This is what I'm seeing:


I have tried 4 different browsers.
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Re: [Tai-Hao] New Double Shot Molding Keycaps in PBT
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 16 January 2015, 00:55:52 »
You can shared link folder images, right?

These images are in same folder.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4bUYjC4F8Sadk50QktWZFVUcU0&usp=sharing

The strange point is that CommonCurt said he can view pictures on his phone previously.
But I didn't change anything on my google drive setting.

Probably language issue.
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