CHERRY - Innovating the World's Best Keyboards

[HendyZone]

Teaser from Cherry

#CES2015

[SpAmRaY]

So I wonder what the last limitation was with the MX module?

[DrHubblePhD]

Id say its those damn pins that are always breaking off  )

[jwaz]

Considering their last offering, the MX-Board 3.0, I'd say they couldn't do worse.


Looks like they're trying to win back some of the gaming market with this business about speed.

[bueller]

If they start putting real keycaps on them again I'll be interested, looks like this will be more of the same though.

[FrostyToast]

Are they actually making an entirely new switch?
Interesting... maybe it's something that is much lower in profile.
I would like that since we need some laptops with decent god damn keyboards.

[Hak Foo]

After getting a ML board for the holidays, I'm surprised nobody's playing with them as a gaming product... the tactility is limited and the throw's short.

[SpAmRaY]

Maybe they are going with optical switches so it will be 'faster'

[MOZ]

Mixed emotions. I'm excited to see what they come out with, but somehow fear it's going to be a let down, at least from those small glimpses at that keyboard. That font, ugh. Maybe they're making something in Alu, as the designer said, "Good design requires certain level of quality in the material itself", minimalist Alu board with optical switches and ugly font keycaps like the MX Board 3.0.

[billnye]

Bringing back Cherry dyesubs #believethehype

[SpAmRaY]

Bringing back Cherry dyesubs #believethehype

with backlit legends

[drewba]

Bringing back Cherry dyesubs #believethehype

with backlit legends

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[donyn]

I almost feel like they are going to make a low-profile keyboard or like a laptop keyboard. We don't have any decent laptop keyboards (besides the Mac keyboards) so this would be a good market for Cherry.

[zennasyndroxx]

Optical switches with mx stems. yummy

[dante]

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

[SpAmRaY]

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

for the l33t gam3rz obliviously  )

[HendyZone]

Without any unnecessary decoration...

[engicoder]

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

for the l33t gam3rz obliviously  )

Yes, most seem to think they have reaction times in the sub 10ms range.

[Touch_It]

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

for the l33t gam3rz obliviously  )

Yes, most seem to think they have reaction times in the sub 10ms range.

My reaction time is instantaneous.  Still looking for some 0ms monitors :O.

On a serious note, I would like to see a new switch type from Cherry, because variety is the spice of life, with BS being the cream of the crop.

[Findecanor]

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

I demand a jet-powered keyboard!

No, seriously.. Tech where the speed could be improved are:
 - Bounce. Cherry MX switches are rated at 5 ms of "debouncing" time before they settle into a state of on or off. Topre does not need debouncing which is why CM Storm markets the NovaTouch as having the fastest response time.
 - Wireless. Bluetooth is not as fast as full-speed USB, and that is why there is no wireless gaming keyboard.

Anyway.. We had been promised a new switch from Cherry for 2014 (or was it 2013?) and all we got was a Corsair-exclusive bleeding clear switch top. I'm not holding my breath. I expect to be disappointed.

[Puddsy]

not a gaming board as far as i can tell, doubt it'll be marketed as one. the MX 3.0 board kinda got cherry riled up since it didn't do too hot

not unikey either, while that is cherry related, it's mostly GMK's project

i get the feeling it's gonna be a new switch which is why there are shortages of MX. this goes against what i was told, since manufacturing issues were cited when i was asking my people about the switch shortages.

anyway i kinda have no idea with this one, i'm waiting for a few emails to come back, but i think we'll just have to wait for CES.

[jonathanyu]

  I just wish Cherry used the old Cherry legend instead of the legend on cherry mx 3.0.

[Touch_It]

What I don't understand is how you have mfg issues with a design that is practically unchanged in 20+ years.  But that's just my 2 cents.

[SpAmRaY]

time for the cherry MZ switch

[dorkvader]

So I wonder what the last limitation was with the MX module?

Last limitation was it not being hall effect.

No joke: performs three orders of magnitude better than cherry MX on multiple metrics. Available since 1970.

Optical switches with mx stems. yummy

This exists as a chinese clone

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

for the l33t gam3rz obliviously  )

#ownedbymx

My reaction time is instantaneous.  Still looking for some 0ms monitors :O.

CRT.

[IvanIvanovich]

I certainly won't be getting my hopes up. Cherry peaked in like 1985, rode a long long plateau then has been going strongly downhill since being acquired by ZF who seems not to give any ****s about the keyboard division.

[munch]

I'm definitely curry-juice about this... if it's a new switch and I like it, maybe I will try and make a new board based around it ~ ~

[wyatt8740]

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

for the l33t gam3rz obliviously  )

I hate when people claim this, because besides that human beings cannot react that quickly (unless they predict something), they disregard the fact that if they really cared about instantaneous connections they would use a CRT monitor.

[Puddsy]

What I don't understand is how you have mfg issues with a design that is practically unchanged in 20+ years.  But that's just my 2 cents.

i got nothing there

my emails always get nothing when i pry past the surface

as is the case with both the shortages and whatever this is

[Touch_It]

So I wonder what the last limitation was with the MX module?

Last limitation was it not being hall effect.

No joke: performs three orders of magnitude better than cherry MX on multiple metrics. Available since 1970.

Optical switches with mx stems. yummy

This exists as a chinese clone

"The technology used in today's keyboards, is actually far too slow"

For who?  Sean Wrona?

for the l33t gam3rz obliviously  )

#ownedbymx

My reaction time is instantaneous.  Still looking for some 0ms monitors :O.

CRT.

LOL, I dun got showed up.  Didn't even think about CRT when I made my post.

[Snowdog993]

I just wonder if this is going to be backwards compatible.  Will they have special drivers for their new keyboards since it's such a technological accomplishment?  Is it going to be that the next generation of keyboards have individual LCD screens on each keycap so you can have whatever you want for a font, foreground or background color?  A literal keyboard display?
I don't know what to think right now.  It sounds really unusual to begin with.

[rainb1ood]

Does this have to do with Uniqey?

[hwood34]

Does this have to do with Uniqey?

ooh, let's hope. I can't wait for more announcements on that

[Puddsy]

Does this have to do with Uniqey?

ooh, let's hope. I can't wait for more announcements on that

You're not gonna get any here. I don't think this is relevant to unikey.

[IvanIvanovich]

GMK is their own thing so I am sure it's wholly unrelated. As far as Uniqey... we pretty much already know what is important to know about it (features and etc.) except the pricing... which I predict will be north of 200EUR.

[gameaholic]

Bracing wallet for impact.  Dammit I need to stop coming to this website every day.  Not sure about that font though.

[dante]

not a gaming board as far as i can tell, doubt it'll be marketed as one. the MX 3.0 board kinda got cherry riled up since it didn't do too hot

I happen to like the MX 3.0: if you like low profile Cherry MX keyboards it's really your only option.

IMHO Cherry failed for several reasons:

1. As far as I can tell - and please correct me - here in the US they spent $0 in marketing.
2. At least here in the US - and I'm not sure abroad - MX Red is your only option - nothing else.
3. No tenkeyless variant.
4. Should have stuck with the MX 2.0's POM/PBT instead of ABS.

Some will point out to "flat keys flat keys!"; however a lot of people grew up with flat keys and they like it.  To them you are the weird ones.

Cherry could come out with a PCB mounted tenkeyless gamer board and play to their strengths: Push PCB mounted switches and demonstrate the customization you can get from plugging in new springs/stems without soldiering.  Maybe even run a contest for the best combo which will become a future product.

[SpAmRaY]

not a gaming board as far as i can tell, doubt it'll be marketed as one. the MX 3.0 board kinda got cherry riled up since it didn't do too hot

I happen to like the MX 3.0: if you like low profile Cherry MX keyboards it's really your only option.

IMHO Cherry failed for several reasons:

1. As far as I can tell - and please correct me - here in the US they spent $0 in marketing.
2. At least here in the US - and I'm not sure abroad - MX Red is your only option - nothing else.
3. No tenkeyless variant.
4. Should have stuck with the MX 2.0's POM/PBT instead of ABS.

Some will point out to "flat keys flat keys!"; however a lot of people grew up with flat keys and they like it.  To them you are the weird ones.

Cherry could come out with a PCB mounted tenkeyless gamer board and play to their strengths: Push PCB mounted switches and demonstrate the customization you can get from plugging in new springs/stems without soldiering.  Maybe even run a contest for the best combo which will become a future product.

I would have been happy if the caps lock had been some standard stem spacing versus a completely new stem spacing.

[IvanIvanovich]

But... they do sell those KC104 sets with normal Cherry profile that come with the funny caps locks for MX2.0 and 3.0.
The biggest thing I didn't like about those boards was it's odd shape. I find irregular shapes very unappealing. If they had just made it straight across the top it would have been 1000% more attractive looking.

[vivalarevolución]

Germans describing technology seems so much more interesting than anything said in English.

[Photekq]

I'm not expecting much.

[Xonar]

I would be more excited if Matias made a similar teaser video, tbh. I want to see them coming out with new stuff more than just about anyone.

An updated MX would be cool, as would a whole new switch type, but I'm really not expecting anything huge from Cherry. Hopefully whatever it is will actually be worth buying, at the least. It's been too long since there was a keyboard from Cherry worth buying over any other keyboard that uses MX switches.

[dante]

But... they do sell those KC104 sets with normal Cherry profile that come with the funny caps locks for MX2.0 and 3.0.

But of course how would you know about the KC104/KC108 sets unless you know about TaoBao and search for it.

In other hobbies I'm involved in there is always that one company that complains that sales aren't very good; but at the same time they don't do jack to get the word out.

[rowdy]

not a gaming board as far as i can tell, doubt it'll be marketed as one. the MX 3.0 board kinda got cherry riled up since it didn't do too hot

I happen to like the MX 3.0: if you like low profile Cherry MX keyboards it's really your only option.

IMHO Cherry failed for several reasons:

1. As far as I can tell - and please correct me - here in the US they spent $0 in marketing.
2. At least here in the US - and I'm not sure abroad - MX Red is your only option - nothing else.
3. No tenkeyless variant.
4. Should have stuck with the MX 2.0's POM/PBT instead of ABS.

Some will point out to "flat keys flat keys!"; however a lot of people grew up with flat keys and they like it.  To them you are the weird ones.

Cherry could come out with a PCB mounted tenkeyless gamer board and play to their strengths: Push PCB mounted switches and demonstrate the customization you can get from plugging in new springs/stems without soldiering.  Maybe even run a contest for the best combo which will become a future product.

I would have been happy if the caps lock had been some standard stem spacing versus a completely new stem spacing.

Same goes for space bar!

[Dihedral]

Not sure if you guys noticed, but in the description it says #ces2015 -> Obviously implying a launch at CES next year this year (it's 2015!) which is Jan 6-9

EDIT: Wait it's in the OP I'm stupid

[Findecanor]

Having Cherry's latest marketing fail in recent memory, my expectations aren't very high.

[Photekq]

^ facepalm )

[opoku.jones2]

Love it

[HendyZone]

[FrostyToast]

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Those are clearly freaking trapezoids

Is this a :trapezoid: moment?