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Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:17:45Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:16:23Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:14:20Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:12:02I just received my set. Looks great! However, it seems as if the right shift key's stem has an issue. The shift key is slightly tilted in the plane of the keyboard, about -2 degrees tilt. Small but enough for me to notice. Possibly a manufacturing defect?hey sirsorry to hear that, if you could please take some pics of the issue and pm them to me, i dont have a set o nhand yet but ill get cody to compare it for me to what he has, if its a single key fault ill get it replaced for you, if its a more widespread issue ill speak to sp and see what can be doneIt's no problem. I'll send a pic when I can. Hopefully if anyone else notices this issue they can make a note here too.just occured to me to mention that the shifts are r3 and the rest of the keys on that row are r4, im assuming you know that and it isnt the issue, but just throwing it out there as something so you can check it against the other shiftThe profile is fine. This is what I mean:Show ImageAnd here's the whole ANSI set on my Novatouch:Show Image
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:16:23Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:14:20Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:12:02I just received my set. Looks great! However, it seems as if the right shift key's stem has an issue. The shift key is slightly tilted in the plane of the keyboard, about -2 degrees tilt. Small but enough for me to notice. Possibly a manufacturing defect?hey sirsorry to hear that, if you could please take some pics of the issue and pm them to me, i dont have a set o nhand yet but ill get cody to compare it for me to what he has, if its a single key fault ill get it replaced for you, if its a more widespread issue ill speak to sp and see what can be doneIt's no problem. I'll send a pic when I can. Hopefully if anyone else notices this issue they can make a note here too.just occured to me to mention that the shifts are r3 and the rest of the keys on that row are r4, im assuming you know that and it isnt the issue, but just throwing it out there as something so you can check it against the other shift
Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:14:20Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:12:02I just received my set. Looks great! However, it seems as if the right shift key's stem has an issue. The shift key is slightly tilted in the plane of the keyboard, about -2 degrees tilt. Small but enough for me to notice. Possibly a manufacturing defect?hey sirsorry to hear that, if you could please take some pics of the issue and pm them to me, i dont have a set o nhand yet but ill get cody to compare it for me to what he has, if its a single key fault ill get it replaced for you, if its a more widespread issue ill speak to sp and see what can be doneIt's no problem. I'll send a pic when I can. Hopefully if anyone else notices this issue they can make a note here too.
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 16:12:02I just received my set. Looks great! However, it seems as if the right shift key's stem has an issue. The shift key is slightly tilted in the plane of the keyboard, about -2 degrees tilt. Small but enough for me to notice. Possibly a manufacturing defect?hey sirsorry to hear that, if you could please take some pics of the issue and pm them to me, i dont have a set o nhand yet but ill get cody to compare it for me to what he has, if its a single key fault ill get it replaced for you, if its a more widespread issue ill speak to sp and see what can be done
I just received my set. Looks great! However, it seems as if the right shift key's stem has an issue. The shift key is slightly tilted in the plane of the keyboard, about -2 degrees tilt. Small but enough for me to notice. Possibly a manufacturing defect?
I had a suspicion that it could be due to SP's SA molds causing the misaligned stem, so I grabbed the long shift from my other SA sets (Pulse and Calm Depths) and compared them on my Novatouch and Royal Kludge. It seems my suspicions may be correct. See for yourself:Show ImageLeft column is Novatouch, Middle Column is Royal Kludge, Top Right is Royal Kludge with stock shift keycap.Unfortunately I don't have any other MX-compatible keyboards to do more comparisons. Anyone else with multiple SA keysets can test out and compare the long shift keys to see if it's not just me and my keyboards.
That's such an extremity, I've noticed that people just don't pay much attention to keycap alignments / mis-aligned switches/keycaps etc. But obviously the pictures you posted are extreme and very hard not to noticeVery curious what the result is going to be
Quote from: KHAANNN on Fri, 24 April 2015, 18:30:36That's such an extremity, I've noticed that people just don't pay much attention to keycap alignments / mis-aligned switches/keycaps etc. But obviously the pictures you posted are extreme and very hard not to noticeVery curious what the result is going to beIt's only quite noticeable if one looks closely at near top-down angle. I only noticed it because I happened to put just the Enter and Shift key on first. In any case it's a minor quirk and it doesn't detract from the SA sets as a whole.
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 18:26:21I had a suspicion that it could be due to SP's SA molds causing the misaligned stem, so I grabbed the long shift from my other SA sets (Pulse and Calm Depths) and compared them on my Novatouch and Royal Kludge. It seems my suspicions may be correct. See for yourself:Show ImageLeft column is Novatouch, Middle Column is Royal Kludge, Top Right is Royal Kludge with stock shift keycap.Unfortunately I don't have any other MX-compatible keyboards to do more comparisons. Anyone else with multiple SA keysets can test out and compare the long shift keys to see if it's not just me and my keyboards.also i know this ounds oddbut have you got any non topre mx stem boards to try it on, maybe its a quirk of those boards rather than the set, cause i cant replicate it here
Could be an SP manufactured defect . Usually when they pop the key out without waiting for the ABS to fully solidify and remain structurally stable. Maybe due to the vast orders they started ramping up ejection times from the molds so they could finish the job quicker. Seen this type of defect before at a factory in Sydney when they made up for lost time by just throwing out the pieces quickly into a collection bin and before you knew it hundreds of pieces had been deformed in some way.Get Melissa to speak with the Q/A supervisor to rectify it, by re-making the keys again with stable curing times for each piece.
found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issue
Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:15:01found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issueIt's entirely possible my keyboards are the issue. I'm also thinking it might be possible that one of SP's molds have the misalignment such that only certain batches of SA sets have this problem, and I just happened to have sets all made from that mold. Whether other people have this issue with their sets will determine if it's just me or SP.
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:37:59Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:15:01found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issueIt's entirely possible my keyboards are the issue. I'm also thinking it might be possible that one of SP's molds have the misalignment such that only certain batches of SA sets have this problem, and I just happened to have sets all made from that mold. Whether other people have this issue with their sets will determine if it's just me or SP.Probably just some gnomes that come into your house at night and mess stuff up for the sheer fun of it :p
Quote from: ImpendingxDoom on Fri, 24 April 2015, 20:48:02Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:37:59Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:15:01found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issueIt's entirely possible my keyboards are the issue. I'm also thinking it might be possible that one of SP's molds have the misalignment such that only certain batches of SA sets have this problem, and I just happened to have sets all made from that mold. Whether other people have this issue with their sets will determine if it's just me or SP.Probably just some gnomes that come into your house at night and mess stuff up for the sheer fun of it :pDamn gnomes messing with my keyboard stuff. Is nothing sacred?
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 20:57:30Quote from: ImpendingxDoom on Fri, 24 April 2015, 20:48:02Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:37:59Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:15:01found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issueIt's entirely possible my keyboards are the issue. I'm also thinking it might be possible that one of SP's molds have the misalignment such that only certain batches of SA sets have this problem, and I just happened to have sets all made from that mold. Whether other people have this issue with their sets will determine if it's just me or SP.Probably just some gnomes that come into your house at night and mess stuff up for the sheer fun of it :pDamn gnomes messing with my keyboard stuff. Is nothing sacred?Damn they always hide my undies and socks.
Quote from: ImpendingxDoom on Fri, 24 April 2015, 20:48:02Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:37:59Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:15:01found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issueIt's entirely possible my keyboards are the issue. I'm also thinking it might be possible that one of SP's molds have the misalignment such that only certain batches of SA sets have this problem, and I just happened to have sets all made from that mold. Whether other people have this issue with their sets will determine if it's just me or SP.Probably just some gnomes that come into your house at night and mess stuff up for the sheer fun of it Damn gnomes messing with my keyboard stuff. Is nothing sacred?
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:37:59Quote from: BunnyLake on Fri, 24 April 2015, 19:15:01found a pic i had of calm from ages ago, which also doesnt seem to have the issueShow Imagei also found a few crap bag keys and none have the same issueIt's entirely possible my keyboards are the issue. I'm also thinking it might be possible that one of SP's molds have the misalignment such that only certain batches of SA sets have this problem, and I just happened to have sets all made from that mold. Whether other people have this issue with their sets will determine if it's just me or SP.Probably just some gnomes that come into your house at night and mess stuff up for the sheer fun of it
Quote from: tom.smykowski on Fri, 24 April 2015, 14:27:27BunnyLake - I purchased one of the extra sets you had. I'm all paid up. Am I also part of this batch shipping? Super excitedQuote from: BunnyLake on Thu, 23 April 2015, 17:26:25sorry guys, havent been around all day and im a bit backed up on pmsabout 70% of this has shipped, and has already been dropped to the post officethe remainder of the orders made on the site are being packed and shipped now and should all be completed tonight, and pm orders will follow shortly afterthe above post should answer the question adequately enough, however cody didnt get to finish the other 30% last night in the endso as with the posts i made a few above, thatll either happen tonight or this weekend
BunnyLake - I purchased one of the extra sets you had. I'm all paid up. Am I also part of this batch shipping? Super excited
sorry guys, havent been around all day and im a bit backed up on pmsabout 70% of this has shipped, and has already been dropped to the post officethe remainder of the orders made on the site are being packed and shipped now and should all be completed tonight, and pm orders will follow shortly after
Have you checked any other keys in that position? Not that they will fit perfectly, but you could see if the others are offset as well. That way you know if it is the key or the stem on the board.
Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 24 April 2015, 21:49:49Have you checked any other keys in that position? Not that they will fit perfectly, but you could see if the others are offset as well. That way you know if it is the key or the stem on the board. That's a good idea, not sure why I didn't think of that. I just tested out the left shift and enter on the right shift position and they seemed fine. I then tried putting the right shift keycap on the spacebar position, and the skew is still apparent. So this confirms that it's the shift keycap's stem that's the issue, not the keyboard.
Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 23:44:50Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 24 April 2015, 21:49:49Have you checked any other keys in that position? Not that they will fit perfectly, but you could see if the others are offset as well. That way you know if it is the key or the stem on the board. That's a good idea, not sure why I didn't think of that. I just tested out the left shift and enter on the right shift position and they seemed fine. I then tried putting the right shift keycap on the spacebar position, and the skew is still apparent. So this confirms that it's the shift keycap's stem that's the issue, not the keyboard.Interesting. So the stem itself is rotated, not the stabs. I doubt the mold is the problem, but it is strange that you have 2 nearly identical misprints. Maybe the cooling/setting process is the culprit of random deformation...
Quote from: ImpendingxDoom on Sat, 25 April 2015, 01:21:17Quote from: Heliosphere on Fri, 24 April 2015, 23:44:50Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Fri, 24 April 2015, 21:49:49Have you checked any other keys in that position? Not that they will fit perfectly, but you could see if the others are offset as well. That way you know if it is the key or the stem on the board. That's a good idea, not sure why I didn't think of that. I just tested out the left shift and enter on the right shift position and they seemed fine. I then tried putting the right shift keycap on the spacebar position, and the skew is still apparent. So this confirms that it's the shift keycap's stem that's the issue, not the keyboard.Interesting. So the stem itself is rotated, not the stabs. I doubt the mold is the problem, but it is strange that you have 2 nearly identical misprints. Maybe the cooling/setting process is the culprit of random deformation...dont think its just him. also noticed the right shift while i was putting keys on but didn't think much of itShow Imagehowever, I am missing a row 1 "1" key and have an extra row 1 "0" keyotherwise, set looks great :thumb:
did all the shipping notifications go out for PM sales?
no rush, sorry for asking again, im on mobile and totally missed the update
Just got my caps today! Loving them! Didn't get to put them on my board yet though. Slight issues with the numpad 3 key and the left shift. Otherwise though all caps are here.
I also possibly have two extra arrow keys? A down and a right.
Quote from: techmattr on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:21:24I also possibly have two extra arrow keys? A down and a right. The arrows are good but you have them both upside-down - one's a backspace and the other is a different row up arrow as it's more comfortable (try it and you'll agree )p.s that USB cable is perfect - where's it from?!
I just checked Calm Depths, PuLSE, Nuclear Data and Hack'd by Geeks and all of mine have a titled right shift. It's extremely bad on the Novatouch but barely noticeable on Cherry stabs. I'm also missing a .> key and have an extra ,< key. Anyone have an extra .> and missing a ,<? I also possibly have two extra arrow keys? A down and a right. Show ImageShow ImageShow Image
Quote from: techmattr on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:21:24I just checked Calm Depths, PuLSE, Nuclear Data and Hack'd by Geeks and all of mine have a titled right shift. It's extremely bad on the Novatouch but barely noticeable on Cherry stabs. I'm also missing a .> key and have an extra ,< key. Anyone have an extra .> and missing a ,<? I also possibly have two extra arrow keys? A down and a right. Show ImageShow ImageShow Imagesorry about that, sp sort the sets, ill get that key replaced for you
Quote from: suicidal_orange on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:36:18Quote from: techmattr on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:21:24I also possibly have two extra arrow keys? A down and a right. The arrows are good but you have them both upside-down - one's a backspace and the other is a different row up arrow as it's more comfortable (try it and you'll agree )p.s that USB cable is perfect - where's it from?!Hah! Totally forgot about the 1u backspace. Threw me off since it's the same row as the arrow. Thanks!Yeah I made the cable. I have three colors I planned on using for Hack'd: MoreShow ImageMoreShow ImageMoreShow ImageQuote from: BunnyLake on Sat, 25 April 2015, 17:07:26Quote from: techmattr on Sat, 25 April 2015, 16:21:24I just checked Calm Depths, PuLSE, Nuclear Data and Hack'd by Geeks and all of mine have a titled right shift. It's extremely bad on the Novatouch but barely noticeable on Cherry stabs. I'm also missing a .> key and have an extra ,< key. Anyone have an extra .> and missing a ,<? I also possibly have two extra arrow keys? A down and a right. Show ImageShow ImageShow Imagesorry about that, sp sort the sets, ill get that key replaced for youThanks! Should I send the extra ,< to Cody?
Got mine today -- they look awesome on the Novatouch! Thanks, BunnyLake and Cody!
Got mine as well.The colors and font couldn't look better! Thanks for a great \set Bunny!*I can confirm having the same issues as everyone else on the right long shift key being crooked on Novatouch.
On another note are the F and J keys meant to be deep dish? Mine are not but I can't remember if they are supposed to be.
Quote from: iamtootallforthis on Sat, 25 April 2015, 19:33:06On another note are the F and J keys meant to be deep dish? Mine are not but I can't remember if they are supposed to be. The mockup on CTRLALT would lead me to believe they are supposed to be deep dish. Can anyone confirm? Is there a chance that it is very sleight?
I'm glad this F/J issue occurred, if it's indeed the case, hate deep dishes, didn't pay attention in the first place