Author Topic: [IC] Samwisekoi Designs SD-60 Programmable, Backlit 60% Keyboard (Read 53398 times)

swill · « **Reply #150 on:** Sat, 14 March 2015, 23:58:48 »

Will these have poker style mount holes? I am guessing that it will.

BTW, for those interested, I just added support for poker style 60% plates in my plate building tool.
Release Notes: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65189.msg1680459#msg1680459

I will be tweaking it so the mount hole size can be changed, but for now it is hard coded to 5mm diameter. So the PCB is mounted to the case...

ianbullock · « **Reply #151 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 15:58:23 »

In for one (if not too late).

Yay for mini/split spacebars! Really nice for comfortable function layer access.

suicidal_orange · « **Reply #152 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:23:08 »

Is samwisekoi OK? He's not been online since the 27th of Feb and hasn't updated the OP since January, I fear he's moved on...

neverused · « **Reply #153 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 17:53:30 »

I worry the same

ideus · « **Reply #154 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:07:12 »

Is this still live?

Does someone know if the PCB has support for ISO enter? The OP says clearly ANSI support, but the question is just in case it is feasible.

suicidal_orange · « **Reply #155 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:43:12 »

Quote from: ideus on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:07:12

Does someone know if the PCB has support for ISO enter? The OP says clearly ANSI support, but the question is just in case it is feasible.

~~ISO enter needs a switch hole between rows 2 and 3, I don't see one in the mock up~~

ISO is an option for MX only.

Quote from: ideus on Wed, 18 March 2015, 08:18:07

The comment of the OP on ISO support is here.

ideus · « **Reply #156 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:45:51 »

Quote from: suicidal_orange on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:43:12

Quote from: ideus on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:07:12
Does someone know if the PCB has support for ISO enter? The OP says clearly ANSI support, but the question is just in case it is feasible.

ISO enter needs a switch hole between rows 2 and 3, I don't see one in the mock up

I'd love to have ISO support. But, maybe it is not feasible.

agodinhost · « **Reply #157 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:51:33 »

chais, chais, chais ...

just missed this gb, dammmmmmmmmm

any change to get pcb from quitters?

neverused · « **Reply #158 on:** Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:54:21 »

It's just an interest check, no boards have been printed yet to my knowledge. I've been lusting for one since he brought it up, but progress has stalled.

Applet · « **Reply #159 on:** Wed, 18 March 2015, 05:55:53 »

Quote from: ideus on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:45:51

Quote from: suicidal_orange on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:43:12
Quote from: ideus on Tue, 17 March 2015, 18:07:12
Does someone know if the PCB has support for ISO enter? The OP says clearly ANSI support, but the question is just in case it is feasible.

ISO enter needs a switch hole between rows 2 and 3, I don't see one in the mock up

I'd love to have ISO support. But, maybe it is not feasible.

According to reply #104 there is support for ISO-enter but only for MX, not Alps

ideus · « **Reply #160 on:** Wed, 18 March 2015, 08:18:07 »

The comment of the OP on ISO support is here.

suicidal_orange · « **Reply #161 on:** Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:06:58 »

Thanks for the correction, I edited my reply as there's a good chance people would stop scrolling.

Sadly that's not going to help get this made though...

neverused · « **Reply #162 on:** Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:07:41 »

Sam come back to us!

derezzed · « **Reply #163 on:** Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:41:42 »

If this gets made and if any become available, I'd like 2. If there's a GB for plates and/or Teensies, I might be in for that too.

ideus · « **Reply #164 on:** Wed, 18 March 2015, 18:48:58 »

I'd be in for a PCB plus teensy included. Where I am right now it is a bit hard to source such components easily.

neverused · « **Reply #165 on:** Mon, 06 April 2015, 11:13:49 »

Bump?

derezzed · « **Reply #166 on:** Mon, 06 April 2015, 22:47:38 »

I was planning on buying a Pok3r but I would rather wait a couple months and buy the SD-60 instead, as I think it is far superior to the Pok3r. Sadly, it looks like Samwisekoi doesn't have enough time to support this right now. And even if he did have the time, it's unclear how many of these he is willing to order. I think he wanted to get jsut enough orders to make the price affordable for the few units he wanted for his own prototyping, without the burden of having to manage a lot of orders.

pryedthirdeye · « **Reply #167 on:** Tue, 07 April 2015, 12:26:21 »

If this is still running I'd be interested in two boards.

neverused · « **Reply #168 on:** Sun, 03 May 2015, 13:44:41 »

Sam!!! Please tell me this project still lives.... I'm going to start dreaming about it soon.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #169 on:** Sun, 03 May 2015, 19:00:14 »

Hi, y'all!

I am trying to unbury myself, one project at a time. I finished a custom PC build, and am 70% through with an F-122 re-build. After that is a case for my JD-45, and THEN I'll wrap this design,

Hope shall return to the land!

- Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

wakko · « **Reply #170 on:** Thu, 07 May 2015, 19:11:43 »

I'd be interested if this happens.

cwils0n · « **Reply #171 on:** Fri, 08 May 2015, 08:28:21 »

I'd be interested in getting my hands on one as well.

Steezus · « **Reply #172 on:** Mon, 18 May 2015, 16:41:53 »

I am interested as well to get my hands on one.

flabbergast · « **Reply #173 on:** Mon, 18 May 2015, 17:10:10 »

One more for me please, if it runs...

rsadek · « **Reply #174 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 02:17:06 »

Registering extreme interest

neverused · « **Reply #175 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 02:18:53 »

I've been clamoring for this for months, I think I'm in the first 10 to express interest, but sadly I believe it is on hold until some of his other projects are finished.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #176 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:50:28 »

Quote from: neverused on Tue, 19 May 2015, 02:18:53

I've been clamoring for this for months, I think I'm in the first 10 to express interest, but sadly I believe it is on hold until some of his other projects are finished.

Is this still needed even though the GH60 is on the way?

- Ron | samwisekoi

neverused · « **Reply #177 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 08:53:41 »

I personally like the layout options you have and the nature of your work. Also I wasn't aware that the gh60 was on track still, there seems to be a lot of drama in that thread, unless I missed another source. Your prototype pricing was also a big motivator.

vindaon · « **Reply #178 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 09:23:10 »

Does the GH60 have alps support? That's mainly why I'm interested in this one.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #179 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 09:25:24 »

All right. I just went back and re-read both threads and looked at the PCB layout in its current state of design. It appears that this whole thing got stalled when I began to modify the design to support existing Poker cases. That meant moving the Teensy, so all the traces were impacted. Poker case compatibility does nothing to assist in making this a re-useable component of the GH-122/152 design, and Swill has got his pancake-design tool nearly complete. (I have no idea what that tool can do for Alps-lovers, but the SD-60 does and will support Alps.)

So, having said that, and judging from the level of interest continuing to be shown, I'll spend some time re-learning the layout and add this project to my list.

Poker case compatibility is likely to be a victim of a re-start.

My JD45 proto case and backlighting are done, the GH36 Beta layout is out for review, so I could potentially spin the SD-60 back up quite quickly.

TL;DR I could probably launch this again quickly if I abandon Poker-case compatibility. So I will.

- Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my JD45 keyboard.

E3E · « **Reply #180 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 19:29:47 »

Yes please, yes please, yes please, yes please. I'd be down for this!

neverused · « **Reply #181 on:** Tue, 19 May 2015, 19:32:09 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Tue, 19 May 2015, 09:25:24

All right. I just went back and re-read both threads and looked at the PCB layout in its current state of design. It appears that this whole thing got stalled when I began to modify the design to support existing Poker cases. That meant moving the Teensy, so all the traces were impacted. Poker case compatibility does nothing to assist in making this a re-useable component of the GH-122/152 design, and Swill has got his pancake-design tool nearly complete. (I have no idea what that tool can do for Alps-lovers, but the SD-60 does and will support Alps.)

So, having said that, and judging from the level of interest continuing to be shown, I'll spend some time re-learning the layout and add this project to my list.

Poker case compatibility is likely to be a victim of a re-start.

My JD45 proto case and backlighting are done, the GH36 Beta layout is out for review, so I could potentially spin the SD-60 back up quite quickly.

TL;DR I could probably launch this again quickly if I abandon Poker-case compatibility. So I will.

- Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my JD45 keyboard.

Best news I have read in a long time here! Thank you!

I would love to help alpha/beta test whatever you need.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #182 on:** Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:14:26 »

I'm still on the fence about differentiation from the GH-60. One differing feature is the 100% through-hole (no SMD) design. Another is the Alps support. And the multiple bottom row options.

But in all of my previous designs, I've had to make the case thicker than I'd like because of the Teensy USB socket. But today I saw this detail of the Massdrop Ergodox, and wondered if placing the Teensy on the top surface ABOVE the top row work work for people.

Detail from Ergodox from Massdrop.

Please comment!

Thanks,

- Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my JD45 keyboard.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #183 on:** Wed, 20 May 2015, 11:44:53 »

Nah, never mind. I might do this later (think GH-122/154) but for the SD-60, I am going to do a design that makes sense and can get made relatively quickly.

- Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my JD45 keyboard.

Quote from: samwisekoi on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:14:26

I'm still on the fence about differentiation from the GH-60. One differing feature is the 100% through-hole (no SMD) design. Another is the Alps support. And the multiple bottom row options.

But in all of my previous designs, I've had to make the case thicker than I'd like because of the Teensy USB socket. But today I saw this detail of the Massdrop Ergodox, and wondered if placing the Teensy on the top surface ABOVE the top row work work for people.

Show Image

Detail from Ergodox from Massdrop.

Please comment!

Thanks,

- Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my JD45 keyboard.

AKmalamute · « **Reply #184 on:** Wed, 20 May 2015, 12:56:48 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Wed, 20 May 2015, 10:14:26

Please comment!

LOL you just now saw this? It'd work fine but yes, require a certain amount of rework since right now, the controller is below some switches so you'd have to have a section of no-switches board. The F-122 might have that but a 60% often won't.

If it helps any, and I think you looked into this a bit, there's no real need for the teensy to be right at the edge ... like the phantom, the controller in the middle somewhere means you either need a 4" connector cable to reach the edge of the case (yielding the most adjustability WRT USB holes on the case) or just a cord that's a foot longer and accept that it's not disconnectable without disassembly of the keyboard.

retrochick · « **Reply #185 on:** Wed, 20 May 2015, 13:04:22 »

I'm down for a PCB. Poker case support is not a deal breaker for me. Plenty of other cases to choose from and there's always the DIY route.

user 18 · « **Reply #186 on:** Wed, 20 May 2015, 16:44:37 »

Ron, quick question:

This PCB still will have mount holes, correct? Just not poker compatible? Are the plans for mount holes still the 3x3 matrix of red holes from your image on page 2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67815.msg1601621#msg1601621)?

samwisekoi · « **Reply #187 on:** Thu, 21 May 2015, 09:12:41 »

Quote from: user 18 on Wed, 20 May 2015, 16:44:37

Ron, quick question:

This PCB still will have mount holes, correct? Just not poker compatible? Are the plans for mount holes still the 3x3 matrix of red holes from your image on page 2 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=67815.msg1601621#msg1601621)?

I can't answer that until I get into the design again. For now, do not trust prior drawings, especially mechanical drawings!

- Ron | samwisekoi
Auto-typed by my JD45 keyboard.

mattyIce · « **Reply #188 on:** Thu, 21 May 2015, 10:10:18 »

In for one!

neverused · « **Reply #189 on:** Sat, 20 June 2015, 13:37:37 »

Bump!

punkpc · « **Reply #190 on:** Sat, 11 July 2015, 11:12:50 »

I would be interested in one

neverused · « **Reply #191 on:** Mon, 20 July 2015, 09:15:53 »

Bump! I would love to support this Samwise

neverused · « **Reply #192 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:10:15 »

bump

Arvid · « **Reply #193 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 04:24:57 »

Are there any other options for a split (or smaller spacebar) 60% pcb?

FLFisherman · « **Reply #194 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:14:53 »

Quote from: neverused on Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:10:15

bump

That's one hell of a bump.

neverused · « **Reply #195 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 09:06:28 »

Quote from: FLFisherman on Sat, 09 January 2016, 08:14:53

Quote from: neverused on Sat, 09 January 2016, 01:10:15
bump

That's one hell of a bump.

Yes I'm aware of that, but this is the first that I have seen Ron active on here in some time and I think this project is an awesome effort. So I bumped it.

ideus · « **Reply #196 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 09:16:32 »

The OP has not posted since may, last year, bumps will not change that, if he is not interested, there is no reason for this thread to be bumped if it has no leader.

neverused · « **Reply #197 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 09:38:15 »

Quote from: ideus on Sat, 09 January 2016, 09:16:32

The OP has not posted since may, last year, bumps will not change that, if he is not interested, there is no reason for this thread to be bumped if it has no leader.

Thank you for that explanation, I'm aware of how things work; however Ron seems to have been busy as of late and has just recently returned to the forum, commenting about his gh36 case and his administration of the gh60 gb. I chose to bump this, as he had made significant progress and 8 was wondering if it still remained in his queue of projects, along with the sd122 and even his 60% model m. He has a ton of talent so I took this opportunity to alert him to interest in his work.

GooNyang · « **Reply #198 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 14:53:50 »

Am I too late? I'm definitely in for one PCB (maybe 2)

Can I also buy the compatible teensy controller?

climbalima · « **Reply #199 on:** Sat, 09 January 2016, 21:45:36 »

I'm interested in this!


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Author Topic: [IC] Samwisekoi Designs SD-60 Programmable, Backlit 60% Keyboard (Read 53398 times)