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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1250 on: Wed, 27 March 2019, 09:31:33 »
If you use hasu’s AEK layout plate, matias’ plate mount stabilizers will work just fine with AEK keys. As hasu points out, beyond that there are many variables to consider.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1251 on: Wed, 27 March 2019, 12:20:09 »
Yes, I was going to get the alps64 pcb and fr4 aek plate, both from Hasu.

Then I guess both stabs and keycaps I've listed would work. Thanks Hasu and crd!

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1252 on: Wed, 27 March 2019, 13:59:09 »
Yes, I was going to get the alps64 pcb and fr4 aek plate, both from Hasu.

Then I guess both stabs and keycaps I've listed would work. Thanks Hasu and crd!

My AEK plate was designed for Apple Extended Keyboard layout, the keycaps you linked doesn't fit on it because its bottom row is completely diffrent. I'd recommend you get from keycaps and stabilizers from Apple Extended Keyboard(including II).
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1253 on: Wed, 27 March 2019, 14:45:26 »
Yes, I was going to get the alps64 pcb and fr4 aek plate, both from Hasu.

Then I guess both stabs and keycaps I've listed would work. Thanks Hasu and crd!

My AEK plate was designed for Apple Extended Keyboard layout, the keycaps you linked doesn't fit on it because its bottom row is completely diffrent. I'd recommend you get from keycaps and stabilizers from Apple Extended Keyboard(including II).

Will this work?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Deluxe-Computer-Keyboard-PS2-Macintosh-Gray-PS-2-Apple-Design-M2980-/331460962111?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Sorry I just have 0 knowledge in alps keyboards.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1254 on: Wed, 27 March 2019, 16:58:51 »
Yes, I was going to get the alps64 pcb and fr4 aek plate, both from Hasu.

Then I guess both stabs and keycaps I've listed would work. Thanks Hasu and crd!

My AEK plate was designed for Apple Extended Keyboard layout, the keycaps you linked doesn't fit on it because its bottom row is completely diffrent. I'd recommend you get from keycaps and stabilizers from Apple Extended Keyboard(including II).

Will this work?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Deluxe-Computer-Keyboard-PS2-Macintosh-Gray-PS-2-Apple-Design-M2980-/331460962111?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Sorry I just have 0 knowledge in alps keyboards.

Nvm I found what would fit them!

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1255 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 02:14:36 »
Hello, I need some help, long story short I lifted off this contact pad and now am looking for a solution, the other contact pad is in an okay condition.

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1256 on: Sat, 27 April 2019, 12:54:42 »
Hello, I need some help, long story short I lifted off this contact pad and now am looking for a solution, the other contact pad is in an okay condition.

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Just run a jumper from the next pad over.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1257 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 06:24:15 »
Well, look at that! My very own 60% with blues!

218125-0

Thanks @Hasu for all the help!  :D

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1258 on: Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:00:22 »
Is the PCB compatible with Mekanisk Klippe or KBDfans tofu cases?
I'm thinking about try to build an alps build. Where can I get the stabs?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1259 on: Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:43:48 »
Is the PCB compatible with Mekanisk Klippe or KBDfans tofu cases?
I'm thinking about try to build an alps build. Where can I get the stabs?

Yes. These PCBs were designed with universal tray mount cases in mind. Due to alps switch spacing, you won’t be able to screw down at the center standoff but that doesn’t appear to be an issue in my experience.
You can source costar stabs from a number of places including the donor boar you harvest your switches and keys from. Matias also has some https://matias.store/products/stabilizer-and-hook-set

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1260 on: Wed, 24 July 2019, 12:22:41 »
I'm encountering an issue with my keyboard. It seems intermittently I'll enter my Layer 2, which is modal, without hitting the trigger key (right Ctrl). I know I'm in it, because tapping right Ctrl will exit the layer and resume normal keyboard operations. I've only noticed this happening since I switched to a USB-C to USB-Mini cable. I certainly don't recall it ever happening with a standard USB-A cable.

Not really sure where to start diagnosing this. Hardware? Software?

Anyone else encountering something like that? I'm attaching my current firmware.


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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1261 on: Wed, 24 July 2019, 19:18:38 »
hmm, I haven't heard problem like this from users so far.
I don't think usb cable causes the issue.  Your keymapping looks sane and should work without unexpected layer switching. Your firmware is previous version but I don't thinks it causes too.

I'd guess the key(right ctrl/T2) turns on some reason like switch defect, diode defect or ...

Though, weird things that I cannot guess can happen sometimes.
First, try the latest firmware, you can download from Keymap Editor link below.
Also try other USB cable.

http://www.tmk-kbd.com/tmk_keyboard/editor/unimap/?alps64#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



I'm encountering an issue with my keyboard. It seems intermittently I'll enter my Layer 2, which is modal, without hitting the trigger key (right Ctrl). I know I'm in it, because tapping right Ctrl will exit the layer and resume normal keyboard operations. I've only noticed this happening since I switched to a USB-C to USB-Mini cable. I certainly don't recall it ever happening with a standard USB-A cable.

Not really sure where to start diagnosing this. Hardware? Software?

Anyone else encountering something like that? I'm attaching my current firmware.



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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1262 on: Mon, 29 July 2019, 07:47:16 »
Can i use with this pcb ibm 5140 plate? (after cutting to pcb size)

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1263 on: Mon, 29 July 2019, 13:56:24 »
Can i use with this pcb ibm 5140 plate? (after cutting to pcb size)
The bottom row looks like 1.5u-1.5u blocker-1.5u-5u spacebar-1.5u, so no it wouldn't work.


Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1264 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 16:17:53 »
I have an orange build using this PCB, the spacebar requires pressing in the center and action directed downwards and towards my body if that makes sense to depress completely smoothly, otherwise it is met with grinding force. Anyone know if this is due to incorrect stabilizer wires on the spacebar? The pieces of the stabilizer wire slide into black pieces on the spacebar.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1265 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 16:53:54 »
I have an orange build using this PCB, the spacebar requires pressing in the center and action directed downwards and towards my body if that makes sense to depress completely smoothly, otherwise it is met with grinding force. Anyone know if this is due to incorrect stabilizer wires on the spacebar? The pieces of the stabilizer wire slide into black pieces on the spacebar.

What board did the caps & more importantly the stabilizers come from? The plate that comes with the ALPS64 is made specifically for the AEK layout & caps, the AEK's spacebar uses a wire that has it's return bends to catch the cap inserts that is shorter than any other ALPS spacebar stabilizer I have ever seen. So wire is the likely culprit, even if it is from an AEK/AEKII since any little bend could cause those issues as well IME. If you could post some pics of the stabilizer or that plus a video of what the spacebar is doing we could get a better ideal of what is really going on with your board.

Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1266 on: Mon, 16 September 2019, 20:31:09 »
I have an orange build using this PCB, the spacebar requires pressing in the center and action directed downwards and towards my body if that makes sense to depress completely smoothly, otherwise it is met with grinding force. Anyone know if this is due to incorrect stabilizer wires on the spacebar? The pieces of the stabilizer wire slide into black pieces on the spacebar.

What board did the caps & more importantly the stabilizers come from? The plate that comes with the ALPS64 is made specifically for the AEK layout & caps, the AEK's spacebar uses a wire that has it's return bends to catch the cap inserts that is shorter than any other ALPS spacebar stabilizer I have ever seen. So wire is the likely culprit, even if it is from an AEK/AEKII since any little bend could cause those issues as well IME. If you could post some pics of the stabilizer or that plus a video of what the spacebar is doing we could get a better ideal of what is really going on with your board.

Caps appear like they are from an M0116, I'm unsure where stabs came from, it's not my build. Does the picture help? I can remove the stabilizer wire if needed, I'd just rather not given the time it takes to reseat it back in its clips :) As you can see the wire slides into the open end of plastic on the spacebar.

Link to album which has more pictures.



« Last Edit: Mon, 16 September 2019, 20:42:08 by directheatedtriode »

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1267 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 01:11:11 »
Space bar keycap should have gray cylinder part that attached on cruciform hole. The part looks as follows.
I think lack of it may cause issue you described.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1268 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 17:46:41 »
Thank you Hasu, you are right this grey cylinder part is missing from my spacebar- however the issue that I'm having is this grinding primarily occurs on the right side and this grey cylinder part would slide into the black piece on the left side.

Is this cylinder part removable by any chance? I can't check my two stock SKCM Blue boards at the moment.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1269 on: Tue, 17 September 2019, 18:42:10 »
Yes, the part is removable.

I tried testing spacebar without/with the part and I confirmed it prevents space bar from misalining and
and mitigates scratches on both sides somewhat, not completely though.

I found right end of stab wire looks bent slightly in the first pic, it may cause also.

Ah, you have other Alps boards and you can know how space bar works. You will have to compare them to know what your problem is.
Also Contact builder or previous owner of the keyboard, he/she may know something.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [RESTOCK Mar-01]
« Reply #1270 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 19:49:52 »
How do I purchase one of these pcbs with plate?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1271 on: Sun, 01 December 2019, 19:53:13 »
How do I purchase one of these pcbs with plate?

Check first post to place an order.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1272 on: Mon, 02 December 2019, 03:39:22 »
Does anyone know if the plate will be compatible with other PCBs like XD60?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1273 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 06:20:09 »
Any had any cables that didn't work with this pcb?

I got a new asceny cable and the connection is flimsy. However the cable does work with other keebs normally.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1274 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:04:07 »
Does anyone know if the plate will be compatible with other PCBs like XD60?

go to first post for supported layouts
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69740.0
and compare with XD60's supported layouts (we have no idea what layout you want)
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« Reply #1275 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 21:54:54 »
Tested the pcb, looked good. Soldered diodes, testing along the way; all was well. Got my switches on and the following keys do not register with default firmware:

~1
[tab] q
[caps] a

Caps is a push button white switch, the rest are oranges. All switches were in working condition before assembly.
Wiped with isopropyl, checked the diodes (one is at a wonky angle but it was working fine before and doesnt seem to be touching anything its not supposed to be touching), soldering looks good.

I'm at a loss. Is this one of those "broken columns" I keep hearing about?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1276 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 22:23:08 »
First, try flashing the latest firmware downloaded from Keymap Editor again.
Then, check whether Left Shift(K31) and Left Control(K30) work well. If those keys are good, the problem will be around D32 probably. Try solder both pads of D32.

Can you share some pics of the pcb at the problematic keys, in particular Caps(K32)?  I or someone may find something there.


Tested the pcb, looked good. Soldered diodes, testing along the way; all was well. Got my switches on and the following keys do not register with default firmware:

~1
[tab] q
[caps] a

Caps is a push button white switch, the rest are oranges. All switches were in working condition before assembly.
Wiped with isopropyl, checked the diodes (one is at a wonky angle but it was working fine before and doesnt seem to be touching anything its not supposed to be touching), soldering looks good.

I'm at a loss. Is this one of those "broken columns" I keep hearing about?


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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1277 on: Wed, 15 January 2020, 22:44:44 »
@BeeBread - i'm not positive how the matrix was created, but that's probably two columns (and wouldn't be a broken column if the ones below work)
- the pcb registered these pads before switches were put in ("tested the pcb")?
- did you stress/flex the pcb when you were installing plate/switches? (this happened to me once on a different pcb)
- you can test if you broke traces by using a multi-meter and putting it into continuity mode (should make a sound when there is a connection)
      • to test, one leg will have common with the adjacent switch in the column, the other leg will have common with the anode end of the diode. if you have a broken trace around the switch, you can just jumper the leg to to the adjacent soldering point.
     • (be careful that you do not bridge the switch, this will act like it's constantly being pressed. and of course, DO ALL OF THIS WHILE IT'S NOT PLUGGED IN)
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1278 on: Thu, 16 January 2020, 05:01:54 »
Can this be converted to work over Bluetooth somehow? I love the board but wish I could use it more easily with my laptop - not having to connect and fiddle around with a 1.5m usb cable would be a start! XD

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1279 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 09:10:41 »
Any timel line on when pcbs and plates will be back in stock? Looking to do a AEK build. If not, anyone have any alternatives?

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1280 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:30:43 »
Any timel line on when pcbs and plates will be back in stock? Looking to do a AEK build. If not, anyone have any alternatives?

PCB has already shipped in China but seems to be stuck in Hongkong for a week. I guess it will take a few weeks at least.
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1281 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 21:23:59 »
Any timel line on when pcbs and plates will be back in stock? Looking to do a AEK build. If not, anyone have any alternatives?

PCB has already shipped in China but seems to be stuck in Hongkong for a week. I guess it will take a few weeks at least.

Oh OK not too bad. Thanks for the update.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1282 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 11:59:20 »
hi, is there a way to map a key and make it go to bootloader mode? similar to qmk's RESET.

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1283 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 12:07:26 »
hi, is there a way to map a key and make it go to bootloader mode? similar to qmk's RESET.
Maybe a silly question, but why not run QMK on it? https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/alps64

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1284 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 12:08:35 »
hi, is there a way to map a key and make it go to bootloader mode? similar to qmk's RESET.
Maybe a silly question, but why not run QMK on it? https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/alps64
aah never thought of this, thanks!

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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [Still available 2019-12-02]
« Reply #1285 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 19:38:10 »
hi, is there a way to map a key and make it go to bootloader mode? similar to qmk's RESET.

You can use this code in your keymap/unimap souce now but Keymap editor doesn't support it yet.

https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/tmk_core/common/actionmap.h#L424
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/tmk_core/common/keycode.h#L178
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Re: [GB] TMK Alps64 - 60% PCB for Alps [IN STOCK 2020-03-31]
« Reply #1286 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 02:45:02 »
The PCBs from China were delivered finally and I'm working on assembly.
It became available in stock now.

Check the first post if you are interested.

Thank you
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