Author Topic: New Topre Keyboard announced with MX silders and Variable Actuation (Read 12521 times)

dyrdevil · « **on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 14:58:33 »

EDIT

Zeal's thread herehttps://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82476.0 already documented this board. Check out his thread for great pictures of everything happening at Computex! I didn't read his thread before posting here.

It appears Topre has announced a new board at Computex 2016, complete with RGB lighting, cherry mx compatible sliders, and a new technology that allows the user to switch between 3 levels of actuation in the travel on the fly. Pretty amazing.

Will be waiting for a TKL or 60 %...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/topre-realforce-rgb-variable-actuation,31961.html

kenmai9 · « **Reply #1 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:03:02 »

Not really a fan of backlighting. Seems excessive.

Topre please make a 60% or TKL with the MX sliders and I'm good.

Does it say how many grams the keyboard is? Or does that have something to do with the actuation point.

Moistgun · « **Reply #2 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:15:43 »

Why does everyone insist on a poorly worded catchphrase.

this is another good feeling of oneness with cup rubber.

Take a step forward and be advanced. as much as it gets.

yomammary · « **Reply #3 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:16:01 »

Why don't they just sell the mx sliders already?

HeeCh2ei · « **Reply #4 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:18:40 »

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Deciding that human brains (not to mention human fingers ) couldn’t parse out so many actuation points, they limited it to three

There is a gap for future upgrades.

kenmai9 · « **Reply #5 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:04:29 »

Quote from: HeeCh2ei on Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:18:40

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Deciding that human brains (not to mention human fingers ) couldn’t parse out so many actuation points, they limited it to three
There is a gap for future upgrades.

Human upgrades?

Malenky · « **Reply #6 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:09:15 »

Quote from: Moistgun on Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:15:43

Why does everyone insist on a poorly worded catchphrase.

this is another good feeling of oneness with cup rubber.

Take a step forward and be advanced. as much as it gets.

Enjoy your feeling.

livingspeedbump · « **Reply #7 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:10:17 »

Quote from: kenmai9 on Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:03:02

Not really a fan of backlighting. Seems excessive.

Topre please make a 60% or TKL with the MX sliders and I'm good.

Does it say how many grams the keyboard is? Or does that have something to do with the actuation point.

It's 45g afaik. The variable actuation doesn't change that.

demik · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:34:13 »

Topre has become ****rry.

Kill me.

supamesican · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 18:59:38 »

ew it looks so ugly. I'm sure it feels fine but ew.

nmur · « **Reply #10 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:02:31 »

oh god

is this the day that topre becomes a gaming brand

katushkin · « **Reply #11 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:13:06 »

Quote from: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:34:13

Topre has become ****rry.

Kill me.

Come back to Cherry. We've always been ****ty awesome.

1391406 · « **Reply #12 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:51:31 »

I don't care for the black LED overlay.

jerue · « **Reply #13 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:58:45 »

Quote from: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:34:13

Topre has become ****rry.

Kill me.

I could care less as long as the 55g Realforce and HHKB are left alone and are still in production

demik · « **Reply #14 on:** Wed, 01 June 2016, 23:30:27 »

Quote from: katushkin on Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:13:06

Quote from: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:34:13
Topre has become ****rry.

Kill me.

Come back to Cherry. We've always been ****ty awesome.

NEVER

Quote from: jerue on Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:58:45

Quote from: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:34:13
Topre has become ****rry.

Kill me.

I could care less as long as the 55g Realforce and HHKB are left alone and are still in production

this is how it starts jerue, this is how it starts.

supamesican · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 02 June 2016, 07:59:00 »

Quote from: jerue on Wed, 01 June 2016, 19:58:45

Quote from: demik on Wed, 01 June 2016, 17:34:13
Topre has become ****rry.

Kill me.

I could care less as long as the 55g Realforce and HHKB are left alone and are still in production

I doubt they'd kill off their best selling board and just have one that caters to gamers. Now I wouldnt have a problem with them switching to the mx sliders on well everything, opens a new world of caps. I just hope they let me buy just those so I can use custom caps on my hhkb. I also thought someone else made the actual hhkb but it just uses topre switches, am I wrong?

zslane · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 02 June 2016, 11:31:44 »

If this board also comes in (off-)white, it could become my dream board. So long as I can turn off all those wretched LEDs via DIP switches or something...

BucklingSpring · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:05:11 »

Kewl... CM Novatouch competition with MX sliders.

daerid · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 02 June 2016, 12:09:27 »

If it keeps up the same quality as the existing RealForce line, I'm in (assuming they have a uniform weighted version).

Macsmasher · « **Reply #19 on:** Fri, 03 June 2016, 17:13:10 »

Quote from: yomammary on Wed, 01 June 2016, 15:16:01

Why don't they just sell the mx sliders already?

Some say the connection between the slider and keycap is much better with the Topre form factor. Personally, I could care less. I'm perfectly happy with the stock Topre caps.

davkol · « **Reply #20 on:** Sat, 04 June 2016, 05:04:03 »

Are the sliders the same as in NovaTouch though? CM Storm has sold sliders separately.

derb2k2 · « **Reply #21 on:** Sat, 04 June 2016, 16:01:42 »

I'm also disinclined to purchase this new Topre mostly because the price might be inflated due to RGB, which I do not want. Also, if it's a full-sized board I'll definitely pass.

rowdy · « **Reply #22 on:** Sun, 05 June 2016, 01:14:19 »

This does not necessarily bode well for resumed production of traditional Topre keycap sets.

kekman · « **Reply #23 on:** Sun, 05 June 2016, 02:57:33 »

**** why can't they just make a rf lineup with mx sliders and not ship this ****ty rgb crap

this is what happens when everybody joins gbs for mechanical disco balls...

SBJ · « **Reply #24 on:** Sun, 05 June 2016, 07:58:37 »

Not into any of this RGB business, but I would enjoy a topre board in the 60-80 key variation.
TKL will do as well.

absyrd · « **Reply #25 on:** Sun, 05 June 2016, 09:19:26 »

Yep. Get that RGB outta here.

And if you are going mx sliders, please still provide decent pbt cap sets with the board. I truly enjoy the cup rubber with the thinner pbt.

zslane · « **Reply #26 on:** Sun, 05 June 2016, 13:30:42 »

At least crappy stock keycaps can be replaced and RGB LEDs can be shut off. Those aren't deal breakers. But MX sliders and a full size layout are strong deal makers for me. They could seal the deal by offering both black and white cases, which they've done with their RealForce boards in the past, so I remain ever hopeful.

Zhuni · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 08 June 2016, 05:01:37 »

Full size, LED, Poor looking styling = Soft-on. Pass

Data · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 08 June 2016, 07:40:45 »

All the hate for backlighting is pretty amusing. Bunch of keyboard hipsters in here.

quasistellar · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 08 June 2016, 08:14:23 »

Quote from: Data on Wed, 08 June 2016, 07:40:45

All the hate for backlighting is pretty amusing. Bunch of keyboard hipsters in here.

I agree. Just turn them off. They add a little cost to a board, so that's kind of annoying, but we're talking about people that spend $300 on a Realforce, so. . .

zslane · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 08 June 2016, 15:39:23 »

LED backlighting is useful if you do a lot of typing in the dark. I don't. So I really don't need all those lights in my keyboard(s). I never really considered that hipsterism; I guess the engineer in me simply prefers to leave out pieces and parts I'm never going to use, and not out of cost concerns, but just as a design principle.

By the same token, I'm not sure what condescending term to use for those who actually like a keyboard that lights up like a Christmas tree, but I'm sure someone around here can provide us with one.

czarek · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 09 June 2016, 01:39:18 »

Quote from: zslane on Wed, 08 June 2016, 15:39:23

LED backlighting is useful if you do a lot of typing in the dark.

All those who are buying $100 mechanical keyboards should already know how to touch type. Otherwise what's the point? Show off?

henz · « **Reply #32 on:** Thu, 09 June 2016, 02:18:43 »

Quote from: czarek on Thu, 09 June 2016, 01:39:18

Quote from: zslane on Wed, 08 June 2016, 15:39:23
LED backlighting is useful if you do a lot of typing in the dark.

All those who are buying $100 mechanical keyboards should already know how to touch type. Otherwise what's the point? Show off?

Can be all sorts of reasons, gaming etc.

daerid · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 00:08:52 »

If this is upwards of $200 and doesn't come with a set of PBT caps, it's a non-starter.

atlas3686 · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 01:45:39 »

Man that thing is really fugly... My dream is they release the firmware upgrade for existing Realforce/HHKB boards so we can change the actuation and maybe sell those mx sliders just so we can have some fun. Topre keycaps are my favourite though and as Rowdy said this doesn't bode well for resumed production of those

quasistellar · « **Reply #35 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 07:03:23 »

Quote from: atlas3686 on Fri, 10 June 2016, 01:45:39

Man that thing is really fugly... My dream is they release the firmware upgrade for existing Realforce/HHKB boards so we can change the actuation and maybe sell those mx sliders just so we can have some fun. Topre keycaps are my favourite though and as Rowdy said this doesn't bode well for resumed production of those

Ugly? It's just a black keyboard. . .

atlas3686 · « **Reply #36 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 07:31:24 »

Quote from: quasistellar on Fri, 10 June 2016, 07:03:23

Quote from: atlas3686 on Fri, 10 June 2016, 01:45:39
Man that thing is really fugly... My dream is they release the firmware upgrade for existing Realforce/HHKB boards so we can change the actuation and maybe sell those mx sliders just so we can have some fun. Topre keycaps are my favourite though and as Rowdy said this doesn't bode well for resumed production of those

Ugly? It's just a black keyboard. . .

I guess it's mostly the RGB lighting / "windowed" keys that I dislike. Aside from that you are probably right it looks like pretty much every other full size mx black keyboard out there.

davkol · « **Reply #37 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 08:43:07 »

The black top-right corner (above the tenkey) looks weird, and I hate that default-layer and Shift-layer legends are crammed together (but who cares with MX-compatible stems).

Otherwise, it looks fairly generic indeed. The default typeface is fairly unobtrusive, but again: who cares?

livingspeedbump · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 12:21:14 »

The variable actuation is a hard feature to nail down. I like the idea, but at the end of the day it felt really odd on any setting other than the highest point. The higher actuation point is just one of the reasons why I love Topre so much.

livingspeedbump · « **Reply #39 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 12:24:25 »

I surely won't buy an RGB Topre for any reason. I avoid any backlighting whenever possible. But I still want this board to be a success. The wider audience Topre gets, the quicker they will continue to develop new products. Hopefully this does appeal to a certain target audience, though I feel like the price may turn off quite a bit of the gaming crowd, people that tend to just want as much flash for the lowest price possible.

xtrafrood · « **Reply #40 on:** Fri, 10 June 2016, 12:47:43 »

Well, the RGB board might cause an influx that lowers the price of the other boards I guess. Hopefully, the RGB won't lower the quality of the originals.. time to stock up

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Author Topic: New Topre Keyboard announced with MX silders and Variable Actuation (Read 12521 times)