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Bars or Scoops or Both?

Bars
78 (41.1%)
Scoops
64 (33.7%)
Both
19 (10%)
Either
19 (10%)
Neither
10 (5.3%)

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Offline ideus

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:09:36 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:21:38 »
Same answer every time this comes up:

HHKB has barz. Barz win.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:45:40 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:50:44 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

That is very interesting to know, thank you very much for the feedback.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:51:53 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

Creep question: Is that a spin-top base in the background?
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #55 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 16:58:02 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

Creep question: Is that a spin-top base in the background?

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #56 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 17:46:01 »
Nice!

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 17:56:34 »
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #58 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 18:28:05 »
Yes, the base is a foreverspin but pretty unusable, I really like the base you have, where is it from?

The lambda is both impressive, boring and scary, you spin, forget about it, and get startled when you hear a stumbling sound minutes later, so I end up just spinning the titanium foreverspin on wood

Bars vs Scoops is a rotten topic anyway, the war is already won for both sides, so I personally don't mind veering off topic :D
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #59 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 18:54:35 »
Yes, the base is a foreverspin but pretty unusable, I really like the base you have, where is it from?

The lambda is both impressive, boring and scary, you spin, forget about it, and get startled when you hear a stumbling sound minutes later, so I end up just spinning the titanium foreverspin on wood

Bars vs Scoops is a rotten topic anyway, the war is already won for both sides, so I personally don't mind veering off topic :D

Mine is also from foreverspin, from way before they added the tempered glass inlay. It's actually pretty terrible, it's relatively soft steel, I don't know what alloy they used, but it's only really suitable for foreverspin's own line of tops. The top I am currently using has a silicon nitride bearing on the tip, and it makes a tiny dent on the surface everytime I spin.

I've had best experience with just the bog-standard concave glass lens from ebay, cheap and cheerful.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #60 on: Sun, 02 October 2016, 21:06:13 »
Same answer every time this comes up:

HHKB has barz. Barz win.

Model M has bars too - multiple win!
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 03 October 2016, 23:01:28 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

That is very interesting to know, thank you very much for the feedback.

Oh god, what where they thinking when the designed the set!

Having a successful product requires engineers with brainz.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 20:54:59 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

That is very interesting to know, thank you very much for the feedback.

Oh god, what where they thinking when the designed the set!

Having a successful product requires engineers with brainz.

All you'd need is a nipple on them to make them satisfy everyone!

But then no-one would probably buy them :rolleyes:
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 04 October 2016, 21:05:20 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

That is very interesting to know, thank you very much for the feedback.

Oh god, what where they thinking when the designed the set!

Having a successful product requires engineers with brainz.

All you'd need is a nipple on them to make them satisfy everyone!

But then no-one would probably buy them ::)

Products for everyone tend to turn into purchasing for no one.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 05 October 2016, 04:04:02 »
I like scoops, but my son can only use nubs, so I vote for both on GMK sets

I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

If he ever absorbs his son, and become one mega entity, Gateron scoop-bumps would work for him, I'm guessing

Do you have a picture of those scoops with bumps?

Here you go, sorry for the poor quality.

https://imgur.com/a/449OD

My biggest pet peeve for these Gateron PBT caps is that they're not actually dimensionally very close to OG Cherry/GMK, the height is about right, but the keycap is ever so slightly smaller than Cherry caps in each direction, especially noticable on the keytop. They're not bad once you get used to it, but it can be very jarring switching between the two.

That is very interesting to know, thank you very much for the feedback.

Oh god, what where they thinking when the designed the set!

Having a successful product requires engineers with brainz.

All you'd need is a nipple on them to make them satisfy everyone!

But then no-one would probably buy them ::)

Products for everyone tend to turn into purchasing for no one.

Try to satisfy everyone, and you'll end up satisfying no-one.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 00:51:57 »
prefer scoops over bars  ^-^

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 04:01:55 »
prefer scoops over bars  ^-^

Why?

I find that my fingers can't distinguish scoops very well, but bars I can find in an instant.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 08:47:05 »
Do you have sausage fingers?

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 08:57:21 »
Do you have sausage fingers?

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 20:38:35 »
Do you have sausage fingers?

Me?  No, long thin fingers.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 10:57:09 »
Broke the tie.

Bars win!

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 20:23:15 »
Broke the tie.

Bars win!

Yay!

Model M has bars anyway!
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 00:48:02 »
I think I voted neither but I'm partial to bars since that is all I've known thus far
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 12 October 2016, 21:47:07 »
prefer scoops over bars  ^-^

Why?

I find that my fingers can't distinguish scoops very well, but bars I can find in an instant.
Hmm... for me finding them is not difficult for scoops or bars, but after tried scoops, felt they are nice to the touch, that is all

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 12 October 2016, 21:53:29 »
I just got my first taste of scoops with the recent hyperfuse release. At first, I didn't even recognize they were there but now I ****ing love them. They just cradle your tips so lovingly and unobtrusively. I will never go back.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 12 October 2016, 21:58:08 »
I just got my first taste of scoops with the recent hyperfuse release. At first, I didn't even recognize they were there but now I ****ing love them. They just cradle your tips so lovingly and unobtrusively. I will never go back.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 12 October 2016, 23:04:50 »
I just got my first taste of scoops with the recent hyperfuse release. At first, I didn't even recognize they were there but now I ****ing love them. They just cradle your tips so lovingly and unobtrusively. I will never go back.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 02:07:37 »
wow, didn't expect the vote results to be so even

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 06:10:31 »
wow, didn't expect the vote results to be so even

Bars are getting traction. It was a little bit lower on the last vote.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 06:16:10 »
Before using bars, I was neither by the way, since I don't use a 10-finger style, homing seemed pointless, tho, practically, I've grown to love the bars, very quickly too

Now that I'm so used to bars, using D/SA keycaps back again is problematic, wish they made an alternative bar-like nudge (wouldn't look good tho) - the nipple would probably be too extreme for me, I guess it's another reason to stick to GMK's
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 07:07:26 »
Before using bars, I was neither by the way, since I don't use a 10-finger style, homing seemed pointless, tho, practically, I've grown to love the bars, very quickly too

Now that I'm so used to bars, using D/SA keycaps back again is problematic, wish they made an alternative bar-like nudge (wouldn't look good tho) - the nipple would probably be too extreme for me, I guess it's another reason to stick to GMK's


 I Agree that the deep dish on DSA sucks.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 07:12:14 »
I Agree that the deep dish on DSA sucks.

Hmm, very interesting, I guess because the bottom and top edges aren't scooped? (So instead of leaving your finger, it might be gripping it in place)

If most scoop users similarly find D/SA dishes sub-optimal, I guess we might have a case for an alternative homing design for D/SA keycaps
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 07:15:06 »
I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

So you're saying they're .... bi ?

Works for some ...

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 09:33:37 »
can't we have barred-scoops?

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 10:34:37 »
I think Gateron keycaps comes in Cherry profile (reasonable similar to actual Cherry/GMK although not 100% the same) and their homing keys are both scooped and barred, it's kinda strange, but might work for you.

So you're saying they're .... bi ?

Works for some ...


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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:22:41 »
What is better, a scooped bar, or a barred scoop?

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 14:23:53 »
What is better, a scooped bar, or a barred scoop?

A scoop in bars
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 01:06:04 »
What is better, a scooped bar, or a barred scoop?

A bar in scoops

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 01:08:11 »
Oh boy.
I've been GH long enough to see a few too many bar fights.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 01:20:24 »
Oh boy.
I've been GH long enough to see a few too many bar fights.

just wait till this next fight Scoops you up :P

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 01:28:05 »
Oh boy.
I've been GH long enough to see a few too many bar fights.

just wait till this next fight Scoops you up :P

oh boy
that might get my nipples in a twist
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 03:25:37 »
Oh boy.
I've been GH long enough to see a few too many bar fights.

just wait till this next fight Scoops you up :P

oh boy
that might get my nipples in a twist

oh man... you're right, what's with the nipples? How could nipples be forgotten?

I want DSA with bulge and nippel... (or even cheeks?)

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 14 October 2016, 16:05:34 »
I'm more of a scooped contour myself. For some reason I always home better with that than I do with the bars.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 13:51:07 »
I prefer scoops as it kinda guides my pointers to rest on the caps, but at the same time, bars feel fine too.
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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 21 October 2016, 03:46:40 »
First I typed on OG cherry with scooped and I felt lost, but it grew on me! Love both scooped and nipple on my Wey Tec GMK!

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 23 October 2016, 05:04:49 »
HHKB and Model M both have bars.

Why is this thread still open?
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But thatís incorrect. Itís in HHKBís slogan, but when Americaís cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 24 October 2016, 00:03:10 »
I'm definitely a bars man.

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #97 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 01:23:24 »
The cost of a 1u key added to a complete set is Ä0.5.

So if you add f j 5 with bars, you only add Ä1.5 to the final price, while making happy the majority of group buyers, and selling a higher number of sets.
« Last Edit: Sun, 06 November 2016, 01:25:35 by Giorgio »

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #98 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 10:29:50 »
^ It's easy to do it this way, everybody is pleased (un theory, because you will allways have a hater saying "I don't want to pay for bars/scoops if I don't use them" :P )

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Re: Bars or Scoops?
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 16 July 2019, 14:18:27 »
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