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We've ran several GBs this year
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85761.0
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79182.0

UPDATE : Dec 14, 2016 17:00(UTC+8):
GB start.
See following link :
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=86395.0
https://goo.gl/cu17tR (Reddit)

GB link for keycap with origin box(Higher shipping fee) : http://shopkey.doyustudio.com/021cape01grs-b.html
GB link for keycap with zip bag(Lower shipping fee) : http://shopkey.doyustudio.com/021cape01grs.html
GB link for Extra : http://shopkey.doyustudio.com/021cape01gre1.html

UPDATE Dec 9, 2016 21:00(UTC+8):

https://goo.gl/GC4NGk
Many guys ask about extra keys.
Due to model issue, it's not possible to support all layout as we mentioned.
But we can use limited resource to make some of them.
So there's an additional question in the form about extra keys.
It might fit some keyboard but definitely not all.
We have no 4u, 6.5u, 7u space bar or bigass enter, iso enter...etc

UPDATE Dec 7, 2016 19:00(UTC+8):
Thanks for many people interest in the project.
We'll launch this GB immediately after 100 guys want it.
Or launch it on Dec 16.


IC form : https://goo.gl/forms/7pvJfwA6TkCm9q4s2

This IC is about a PBT SA Profile Keycap, with Elvish alpha on it.
View more images : http://imgur.com/a/Ta0R0
This keycap set has only ANSI 104 keys now
Alpha set, modify set and extra set GB will launch if get 30+ interesting
Profile : 223333 (Based on Filco's High profile)

This keycap contain several tech of printing.
1. White caps are using dye-sub printing.
2. Green(Both light and deep) are dip-dye with white PBT caps
3. White legends on green caps are made by cutting from surface with laser, and origin plastic color shows up.
These techs make sure this cap has a nice quality and lifetime.

Price : $65 for ANSI 104 set

Shipping :
Shipping to Canada/USA/AU is using airpack.
To rest of the world is using registered small pack or DGM.
Shipping fee :
Weight of this keycap set is around 400~500 with boxing
But only <250g if with zip bag.
Which means shipping fee will be pretty high if keep origin box.
($12~$13 to USA, Euro...etc; $8~$10 to Asia)

If ship with zip bag only.
Shipping fee will much lower, cost about $8 to USA/CA/Euro and $5~$6 to Asia.
So there's a question about you want to keep origin pack or not.

ANSI 104 contains :(The color 1 and color 2 is not for this set, just ignore it.)



More pics : http://imgur.com/a/Ta0R0




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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 04:39:02 »
Interested! Can you show us what is included in the 104 keys?


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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 05:34:11 »
Is the dyesub made by signature plastics? Great price, btw.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 05:50:58 »
Is the dyesub made by signature plastics? Great price, btw.
No, it's not :)

Interested! Can you show us what is included in the 104 keys?
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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 06:39:05 »
hmmm, looks good

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 06:45:56 »
Looks great!

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 07:15:00 »
I'm in!

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 08:15:43 »
Seems many guys want extra key.
But this model have no non ANSI caps now because of fund issue.
The extra key will process in 2017.

So this time will have only standard ANSI 104 set :)

For the alpha only, we might consider of that.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 09:20:52 »
For the next run, would you consider making Elvish the primary (larger) legend and English the secondary (smaller)?

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 09:25:24 »
For the next run, would you consider making Elvish the primary (larger) legend and English the secondary (smaller)?
I second this. I think it'd look fantastic with elvish as the primary legend like in granite.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 10:31:36 »
For the next run, would you consider making Elvish the primary (larger) legend and English the secondary (smaller)?
I second this. I think it'd look fantastic with elvish as the primary legend like in granite.

For the next run, would you consider making Elvish the primary (larger) legend and English the secondary (smaller)?
Hi,
It's also available.
But that will make this keycap become sort of blank keycaps.
And in my experience, most people still want printing on keycaps.
So we decide to run this GB with English legend as primary.
We might do another IC in the future with only Elvish on other color after this GB ends :)
Thank you for advice!

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 10:56:39 »
Uniform or sculptured?

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 11:10:23 »
I mean... the Elvish is pretty hard to see in the pictures but for the price I'll definitely give it a go, the set's pleasant to look at.

What I personally want is just straight Elvish without Latin legends at all but I suppose that may be a little bit too niche for most people - I'd imagine most people who buy these to begin with are heavy enthusiasts which hardly need visual guidance finding out where each letter is, at the risk of sounding corny the English sort of breaks my immersion personally.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 12:05:23 »
For this price I'm definitely in!

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 12:40:45 »
I definitely need it, Royal Alpha vibe in dyesub SA is perfect, especially if it's going to be available soon.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 12:45:46 »
If these don't come from Signature Plastics, then they aren't SA.

Are there any row profile specs for these keycaps? (i.e., height, top angle, etc.)

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 13:14:11 »
Unfortunately the Elven sub legends isn't my cup of tea, however I am very intrigued about the possibilities for these, am I correct in assuming that these are not made by Signature Plastics, but by a third party in an attempt to recreate the SA profile? How close are these caps to the ones from Signature Plastics? Could you provide any comparison between these and the actual SA caps from Signature Plastics?

I would love it if for future group buys you would consider doing a set with US-international sublegends instead of Elven because for me US-International sublegends are actually useful. For reference, US-Int sublegends looks like this:
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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 14:58:27 »
I'm in for a set.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 16:47:17 »
If these don't come from Signature Plastics, then they aren't SA.

Are there any row profile specs for these keycaps? (i.e., height, top angle, etc.)
Yet people are not screaming when stuff is described to be cherry profile, when done by someone other than cherry.
You could argue that GMK has the right to call its caps cherry profile because of the heritage of molds, but no one can verify that their molds that they use today are all from an era before GMK bought them.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 17:31:52 »
If GMK's molds are duplicates of Cherry molds, then they should be called "Cherry profile" because it is the shape of the keycaps that determine the profile, not the name of the manufacturer. So unless these new Chinese molds are duplicates of SA, they need their own name. For instance, Matt3o isn't calling his high-profile spherical keycaps SA; he is giving them their own name.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 18:03:32 »
And matteo has been very clear in that they are not copies from sa, but rather somethin hopefully better. I completely agree on all points and just would like to see comparison pictures before stating that a new name needs to be coined.
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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 18:27:15 »
I would also like to see a spec sheet, preferably before we all start calling it SA.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 06 December 2016, 19:42:00 »
Hi,
The profile is based on Filco's.
So, it is 223333.


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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 03:50:57 »
Hi,
The profile is based on Filco's.
So, it is 223333.

oh, that's a great profile

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 04:03:38 »
damn dat price im in :)
hope the production time is not too long, that would make it more perfect. :-*

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 04:22:40 »
also, you mention extra keys for 2017... will that also include an ISO kit?

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 04:23:34 »
I'll definitely join if there will be an alphas only kit!

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #27 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 05:26:26 »
also, you mention extra keys for 2017... will that also include an ISO kit?

Not sure now.
But I think ISO will include, it's a really basic layout.
It might publish around mid 2017.

I'll definitely join if there will be an alphas only kit!

For now very less people want alpha only T_T
Vote for it :)

damn dat price im in :)
hope the production time is not too long, that would make it more perfect. :-*

Forget mention this issue.
This will longer than our other GB.
We might run it for 4 weeks maybe.
But we hope we can deliver all orders within 3 months after GB start.
Which means ship all order within 1 month after GB ends.
And start to process manufacture from the beginning to reduce the leading time.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 07:29:25 »
Definitely interested in the possibility of an elvish only option in the future. The English legends definitely kill it for me.

I think we all need to see some comparison pictures to SO's SA and some specs before making a decision.
Like, are these closer to SA or Filco sphericals (since the 223333 profile is based on Filco's design)?

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 07:48:38 »
Definitely interested in the possibility of an elvish only option in the future. The English legends definitely kill it for me.

I think we all need to see some comparison pictures to SO's SA and some specs before making a decision.
Like, are these closer to SA or Filco sphericals (since the 223333 profile is based on Filco's design)?
Filco sphericals are made by SP.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 08:25:09 »
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I'm seeing a spelling mistake on the Scroll Lock ("SCOROLL LOCK"). Will this be fixed for production?

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 10:22:55 »
Definitely interested in the possibility of an elvish only option in the future. The English legends definitely kill it for me.

I think we all need to see some comparison pictures to SO's SA and some specs before making a decision.
Like, are these closer to SA or Filco sphericals (since the 223333 profile is based on Filco's design)?

Filco double shot keysets are manufactured by SP, they are exactly the same as SA (legends are in a different spot but profile is identical).

If these are cloned Filco caps, they will be identical to SA
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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 13:31:14 »
Definitely interested in the possibility of an elvish only option in the future. The English legends definitely kill it for me.

I think we all need to see some comparison pictures to SO's SA and some specs before making a decision.
Like, are these closer to SA or Filco sphericals (since the 223333 profile is based on Filco's design)?

Filco double shot keysets are manufactured by SP, they are exactly the same as SA (legends are in a different spot but profile is identical).

If these are cloned Filco caps, they will be identical to SA

Ahh,  good to know. Didn't realize SP was the OEM for the Filco sphericals.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 18:30:29 »
Definitely would prefer just the Elvish legends here also. The colors look great though, and I might be in for a set. Planck, Ergodox etc would be a plus, but at that price, it's hard to argue...

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 07 December 2016, 18:43:20 »
Love that green on the mods.  I wouldn't mind a mod pack but Elvish holds no interest for me.

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 02:40:35 »
Sorry got sick yesterday night = =
I can finally leave bed this morning
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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 02:48:23 »
Sorry got sick yesterday night = =
I can finally leave bed this morning
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Could you also post a picture with these next to signature plastics SA caps? What is the thickness of the caps?

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 08:12:56 »
Sorry got sick yesterday night = =
I can finally leave bed this morning
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Could you also post a picture with these next to signature plastics SA caps? What is the thickness of the caps?

Sorry,
For now we don't have a SP SA to compare with :(

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 08:58:23 »
Quote from: pomk link=topic=86247.msg2316712#msg2316712 8date=1481186903
Sorry got sick yesterday night = =
I can finally leave bed this morning
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Could you also post a picture with these next to signature plastics SA caps? What is the thickness of the caps?

Sorry,
For now we don't have a SP SA to compare with :(

What about thickness? I have a set of your 1.5mm thick PBT blanks and they are really nice.

Hope you feel better soon!

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 09:26:02 »
RIP Sindarin.

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« Reply #40 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 09:34:46 »
If this went well, please consider a red version with hiragana or katakana

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 09:40:19 »
If it's not made by SP, you'd better call it SA-like, not SA.

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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 10:20:50 »
If it's not made by SP, you'd better call it SA-like, not SA.
If it's close enough (ie. a copy), then it should be fine. Everyone is calling non cherry caps cherry profile already.


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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set
« Reply #43 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 21:09:22 »
Quote from: pomk link=topic=86247.msg2316712#msg2316712 8date=1481186903
Sorry got sick yesterday night = =
I can finally leave bed this morning
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Could you also post a picture with these next to signature plastics SA caps? What is the thickness of the caps?
Sorry,
For now we don't have a SP SA to compare with :(

What about thickness? I have a set of your 1.5mm thick PBT blanks and they are really nice.

Hope you feel better soon!
1.25mm thickness :)
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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set UPDATE : EXTRA?
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 09 December 2016, 07:08:33 »

https://goo.gl/GC4NGk
Many guys want extra keys.
But due to model issue, it's not possible to support all layout as we mentioned.
But we can use limited resource to make some of them.
So there's an additional question in the form about do you want extra or not.
It might fit some keyboard but definitely not all.
We have no 4u, 6.5u, 7u space bar or bigass enter, iso enter...etc

Alpha set, modify set and extra set GB will launch when > 30 interesting

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 09 December 2016, 19:07:27 »
Hope the SCOROLL LOCK will be fixed when the GB pushes through, unless it was intentional haha

Also hoping that the price wont skyrocket after adding those extra keys unless the extras are included as a separate purchase. Personally I do not really need the extras, except the 4 R2s at the top of the numpad.
« Last Edit: Fri, 09 December 2016, 19:09:21 by Dyaems »

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set UPDATE : EXTRA?
« Reply #46 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 01:17:35 »
Hope the SCOROLL LOCK will be fixed when the GB pushes through, unless it was intentional haha

Also hoping that the price wont skyrocket after adding those extra keys unless the extras are included as a separate purchase. Personally I do not really need the extras, except the 4 R2s at the top of the numpad.
It will sell separately, and ANSI 104 will still $65.
Scroll lock issue will be fixed in next sample.

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« Reply #47 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 01:54:19 »
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https://goo.gl/GC4NGk
Many guys want extra keys.
But due to model issue, it's not possible to support all layout as we mentioned.
But we can use limited resource to make some of them.
So there's an additional question in the form about do you want extra or not.
It might fit some keyboard but definitely not all.
We have no 4u, 6.5u, 7u space bar or bigass enter, iso enter...etc

Alpha set, modify set and extra set GB will launch when > 30 interesting

is that final? of course we want extra~
please make it happen  :p
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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 03:55:41 »
Hope the SCOROLL LOCK will be fixed when the GB pushes through, unless it was intentional haha

Also hoping that the price wont skyrocket after adding those extra keys unless the extras are included as a separate purchase. Personally I do not really need the extras, except the 4 R2s at the top of the numpad.
It will sell separately, and ANSI 104 will still $65.
Scroll lock issue will be fixed in next sample.

good to hear if it will be sold separately  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Elvish PBT SA dye-sub & Laser Engraved Keycap set UPDATE : EXTRA?
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 08:01:32 »
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https://goo.gl/GC4NGk
Many guys want extra keys.
But due to model issue, it's not possible to support all layout as we mentioned.
But we can use limited resource to make some of them.
So there's an additional question in the form about do you want extra or not.
It might fit some keyboard but definitely not all.
We have no 4u, 6.5u, 7u space bar or bigass enter, iso enter...etc

Alpha set, modify set and extra set GB will launch when > 30 interesting

is that final? of course we want extra~
please make it happen  :p

You mean extra?
For now I think it's all we can make.
Cause we don't have iso enter, and we may not sell iso enter only in the future.
So we just remove UK extra.
But keep separate shift cause they might able to use in some custom layout keyboard I guess.

And we still provide 1.5u and 1u ctrl and alt even we don't have 6.5u and 7u space bar.
Cause sell space bar only is reasonable in my opinion.
There's too many specs for spacebar...