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[IC] KKB Skidata neo
« on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 01:45:38 »
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K I T T I N G

304439-1
Base kit. Includes support for alice, limited 40s, HHKB, etc. I made a mistake, there's an extra ansi enter.



304441-2
Nordeuk kit. Get this for that authentic skidata look. Though who are we kidding, this kit will not be made.



304443-3
Alert kit, with cooooolllll translucent keycaps :cool:



304445-4
R5 kit. Will consider adding this to base to replace R4.



304447-5
Relegendables kit. Includes front print from ESC to F12 and 10 blanks.




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C O L O R S

Colors will be matched to GMK N9/V2.




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P R I C I N G

Aiming for
- $95 for Base kit
- $35 for Nordeuk kit
- $20 for Relegendables kit
- $30 for Alert kit
- $25 for R5 kit




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V E N D O R S

TBD




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R E N D E R S


304449-6 304451-7
21xx by Pontus

304453-8 304456-9
F2-84 and Frog by Geon

304458-10
JEBAETED by yours truly





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T H A N K S

Thanks to Pontus for the render model & render help  :thumb:
Thanks to Jampot for kitting suggestions  ;D
Thanks to Geon for providing the models on his site
Thanks to all my discord server members



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S I G N A T U R E




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T O - D O

Reach out to vendors. Please shout to your local vendors if you want this set run  ;D

Organize received feedback and make changes to the kitting

Get color chip samples + translucent samples from KKB




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F E E D B A C K

( 1 ) Reverse colored accent keys. I know previous sets ran with them, but i dont like the look personally. Will look into it if there's demand, but also need to figure out which child kit to put them into (base already pretty cramped)

( 2 ) Macro expansion keys. I would love row correct macro column with F1-F10, but it will likely depend on demand.

( 3 ) Second 2.2u shift key & 2u shift. Should be ok to add to base kit. No promises though.

( 4 ) Second B. Important addition to base kit.

( 5 ) Redundant ANSI enter. Will be removed.

( 6 ) Considering R5 in base. I dont think it'll make it as a separate child kit.

( 7 ) 10u? Will ask KKB if they have molds. Likely will be an add-on.

( 8 ) Windowed Scroll Lock. Wasn't in original Skidata keyboard. But i understand it might be weird if we have other windowed keys. Will include if not too expensive.

( 9 ) 1u Spacebar. Should be ok to add to base kit. No promises though.

( 10 ) R1 backspace in Alert kit. Should be ok to add.

( 11 ) 1u Alt Gr in base kit will be changed to 1u Alt. It's too cramped for me as well.

( 12 ) R2 |\ will be removed in favor of R1 |\ in alert kit.

( 13 ) Orange relegendables? Think it's a hard sell, might be a pass on this one.  :(

( 14 ) Thinking of ways to make Nordeuk work. Am considering buying out MOQ.


« Last Edit: Thu, 30 November 2023, 01:22:54 by masje »

Offline Jampot_298

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 01:55:35 »
Yes yes yes. This is hot and I need it...

Offline Fraaaan

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 02:01:17 »
Finally a Skidata rerun... GLWIC!

Offline Moods

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 02:30:02 »
Another killer looking project Masje. Count me in  :cool: :cool:

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 02:48:13 »
This is excellent. I'd like to see accent enter and esc, and I'd love to see sculpted macro or F keys!

Offline ph4nt0m

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 03:43:31 »
Please consider adding a second 2.25u shift key for proper Type-K support. You could replace the redundant enter key. ;)

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 04:01:33 »
HELL YEA

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 04:43:34 »
Clean! nice work!

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 07:01:46 »
Wow, just wow.... Like you have my full attention.


I would love to see more of the Alert kit ... Ie expanded into alpha chars

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 08:32:27 »
I already have this set in GMK, but with R5, I'll consider it.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 08:34:00 »
Count me in, especially if you go for R5 in base.
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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 09:32:36 »
I wasn't in the hobby to partake in GMK Skidata at non-aftermarket prices, and didn't want to buy DCX Skidata, so I shall partake in KKB Skidata. GLWIC

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 09:52:44 »
This is just great to see. Will probably pick up most of the kits.

Do KKB do custom moulds, cause I think it would be really cool to see 10u or BAE or something like that if that's possible.

GLWIC

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 10:10:15 »
AltGr in base? That's the most based thing I've seen this week. Also nordeuk?!
And 2x 3u space in base? Wow.

And here I was thinking I definitely didn't need another dark set. Turns out I do. I need to show my support for this kind of kitting.

That said I don't understand the extra Q and M keys at all :-P
Also I don't get the transparency thing. I'd rather have an accept set with reversed colors.
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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 10:36:02 »
Amazing kitting and prices. Definitely picking this up when it runs.

Do KKB do custom moulds, cause I think it would be really cool to see 10u or BAE or something like that if that's possible.
They do but it's extremely expensive. There have been a few attempts at getting them to make a BAE but I'm pretty sure it's not really getting anywhere due to cost.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 11:22:38 »
Skidata R5 and good kitting :eek: . Another masje banger. GLWIC :thumb: .

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 14:55:01 »
Yes please!

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 14:55:55 »
EXCELLENT

Offline Meepergon

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 15:02:51 »
i need this now. shinethrough in base kit? alert kit? absolutely ****ing BASED. i don't really like KKB texture but i will most definitely be picking this up.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 16:41:25 »
If Nordeuk kit doesn't make it, would you be open to adding ISO-UK to base? This is quite common for KKB, I don't think it adds much cost and gets at least for me what I want.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 29 November 2023, 20:57:55 »
I'm so in.
One suggestion is that I think the 1u Alt Gr key looks too cramped on previous sets (including my own lol). Any chance of replacing it with just a second 1u Alt?
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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 30 November 2023, 03:57:12 »
They do but it's extremely expensive. There have been a few attempts at getting them to make a BAE but I'm pretty sure it's not really getting anywhere due to cost.

Ah that's a shame, thanks for telling me :)

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 01 December 2023, 03:12:37 »
If Nordeuk kit doesn't make it, would you be open to adding ISO-UK to base? This is quite common for KKB, I don't think it adds much cost and gets at least for me what I want.


Yes! My original thought is to push for nordeuk sales by putting UK ISO here, but depending on how the IC goes, will either put them in base or consider buying out nordeuk kits.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 01 December 2023, 03:13:31 »
I'm so in.
One suggestion is that I think the 1u Alt Gr key looks too cramped on previous sets (including my own lol). Any chance of replacing it with just a second 1u Alt?


Ah yes, was perhaps a oversight on my part... will have an extra 1u 'alt' instead.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 05 December 2023, 20:57:00 »
Good kitting and price.

GLWIC

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 06 December 2023, 02:41:26 »
Is it ABS or PBT ?

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 07 December 2023, 01:30:10 »
Is it ABS or PBT ?

Hello! This set will be double-shot ABS  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 16 December 2023, 02:38:21 »
Pleas gib now, k thanks. Alert KIT IS HOT.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 17 December 2023, 08:37:20 »
Love this & would be totally down to grab a set if you go with R5 in the base (I already have SkIIdata). Also how comes no extra B for Alice layout? You get the extra bars in the base, might as well add the extra B in.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 21 December 2023, 03:47:47 »
Sooo Gooood. I've the whole layout! GLWIC :cool:

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 21 December 2023, 09:10:48 »
You're an absolute legend for running this set again. Please do consider adding the orange accents to the base kit though, otherwise I feel it's pointless to offer two 2.25u enters if they both look the same. The semi-translucent accent row kit is an interesting idea, will have to see how it pans out. Definitely interested in this one

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 22 December 2023, 00:48:56 »
Great work on the kits! :)

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 22 December 2023, 02:25:31 »
Count me in, especially if you go for R5 in base.

cherry r5 is terrible with the standard spacebar

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 22 December 2023, 10:54:24 »
very interesting! i believe i would like to order them.
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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 22 December 2023, 15:45:30 »
Count me in, especially if you go for R5 in base.

cherry r5 is terrible with the standard spacebar

Do you know if there is a Cherry manufacture that does R5 spacebars? Last I heard GMK only has R4, but that doesn't mean R5 isn't out there somewhere.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 22 December 2023, 18:34:46 »
Do you know if there is a Cherry manufacture that does R5 spacebars? Last I heard GMK only has R4, but that doesn't mean R5 isn't out there somewhere.

dcs spacebar is very close to cherry R5

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 23 December 2023, 22:07:36 »
Would strongly prefer to keep  R4 bottom row in base

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 24 January 2024, 14:54:22 »
Any updates on this?

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #38 on: Wed, 24 January 2024, 17:02:08 »
R4 for me

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 25 January 2024, 03:37:19 »
cherry r5 is terrible with the standard spacebar

no it's not, it's ergonomic and looks cool AF

+1 for R5, KKB does have the molds so don't lose the opportunity to make this set stand out from the average.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 03:30:25 »
Is this going to happen (pretty please)?

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 04:49:31 »
Build it, and they will come :)

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 05:37:04 »
Want, want, want.
(one kit, not three ;D)

Was going to add suggestions, but found they're there (6,8,1 in particular).

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #43 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 07:28:49 »
Is this going to happen (pretty please)?

Yup it is! Working on it...

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #44 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 07:29:25 »
Any updates on this?

Currently looking for vendors & some kitting fixes!

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #45 on: Sat, 27 January 2024, 21:02:25 »
Three previous three sets I know of are Skiidata with two i's. Why are you using only one?

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 28 January 2024, 01:44:08 »
Three previous three sets I know of are Skiidata with two i's. Why are you using only one?

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I would assume the II comes from GMK SkIIdata being the second run of this colorway that was manufactured by GMK. Drop probably took that name not knowing any better (or they were looking to avoid potential trademark issues). The Austrian company that the original Cherry orange-on-black keyboard/keyset was made for is called Skidata, with one I.
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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 28 January 2024, 05:09:33 »
Three previous three sets I know of are Skiidata with two i's. Why are you using only one?

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Yup. Skiidata with two ‘I’s I believe was the name TKC gave this set when they ran it as a R2 of this N9/V2 colorway. The DCX project was an extension of this GMK project afaik, so the name stuck.

Skidata with one ‘I’ is the original, I think.

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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 29 January 2024, 03:13:05 »
I have GMK but I like the Alert Kit and R5, might just pick up a full set.  Nice to see it back.
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Re: [IC] KKB Skidata neo
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 15 February 2024, 21:03:08 »
I've been waiting for a proper Skidata re-run for awhile. Excited for R5 support too. I am in.