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05/20 updated:
  • Instruction for the Top-Gasket mount

05/17 updated:
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Hi, friends of Geekhack, here is Albert from Matrix lab!

 It's been a long while since the our last keyboard IC on geekhack. This time, we have prepared a lot of new things for you guys. At the same time, this will also be our first TKL keyboard officially sold outside of China.
 
 Our original intention in designing this keyboard is to make it a concise and practical. You will not see the complicated external structure design of our previous keyboards on this one. But you can still see some of our previous iconic designs, like the led light in the front or the badge in the back weight. The installation method of badge has been changed to a magnetic type. More convenient to replace it. The badge is compitable with our recent keyboards, like the 8xv 2.0 Additional or 6xv 2.0 Falcon. Also, we will offer badge commission service in the furture.

 The front led part has been designed to a simple replacement method. You can easily change the shape by replacing a small metal piece. You can even diy it yourself.
 
 For the mount method, if you are familiar with us, you probably know that 99% of our keyboards are Top mount. Top mount may be the most traditional and widely used mounting method. It can bring a very stable typing feeling experience to users, and can also be tuned very well. From our opinion, the relatively simple structure of top mount can support our complex external design. No matter how complicated our external design is, we don稚 have to worry about the internal structure.
 
 But, we will not use tranditional Top mount this time.
 
 We designed a new type of Top mount for this keyboard, and we will just simply call it 'Top-gasket' mount. The plate is still fixed to the top case, but its not fixed by screws directly. The poron gaskets will be sticked on the plate, and we designed several individual rectangualr pieces to be locked to the top case to clamp the plate. Plz check the schematic below.

 As you can see in the picture, the blue one is poron gasket, the red one is fixed strip, and the green one is case dampening pad. The fixing strip is fixed to the top case by screws to achieve the effect of clamping the plate. The purpose of this design is mainly to make it have the typing feeling of the gasket mount while retaining the high compatibility of the Top mount. It allows us to design complex external structures without having to consider the internal structure too much.

 Since I have received a lot of suggestions for us to remove/adjust the tabs on the spaces and sides. Here i want to talk about more detail about the internal structure. As you can see below, thats how the internal looks like.




 As I have said before, this structure inherits the very flexible advantages of Top mount. The Plate is fixed to the top case by 8 small metal pieces, and each small metal pieces has 3 screws hole on it. You can decide how many screws you want to use on each pieces, and this will ultimately affect the feel of typing.
 Based on this, it becomes very flexible. You can adjust the typing feel by adjusting the number of screws used or even the tightness of the screws. If you dont like the side tabs, you can just simply remove the metal pieces, and the side tabs it not working anymore.
 Compared with normal gasket mount, I think this is the biggest difference between us.
 
 To improve the typing feeling, we also designed a new type of plate as an upgrade item. A ultra flex one! Plz check the pics below.

 We want to increase the resilience of each key when you typing on it, and at same time, it wont fall down at the corner. So we set up flex cut for each keys in the main typing area. The result of this is that it both increases rebound and maintains rigidity. The processing cost of the flex plate is more than three times that of the normal one. So this will be a upgrade choice during GB.
 
Renders:
This is not the final version, there are still some details to be adjusted






Prototype:








 
Typing angle
 8ー

Layout:


PCB Feature:
Programmable, Vial supported.

Price:
Havent decided yet, about $400ア
 
To do list:
Color options;
GB time;
Availble units;
Esitmated shipping time;
 
 
 Thx for your reading! Plz feel free to leave your comment below. I hope my poor English will not cause any misunderstandings.

 If you are interested in our keyboard, plz joining in our discord serever: https://discord.gg/JWPFAEk4xD





« Last Edit: Tue, 01 June 2021, 01:49:05 by Matrix-Lab »
discord:https://discord.gg/JWPFAEk4xD

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:01:57 »
reserved  :)
discord:https://discord.gg/JWPFAEk4xD

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:02:31 »
Cool stuff. Would love to see the tabs around the spacebar adjusted a bit.

edit: and also forget those side mount tabs  :eek:
« Last Edit: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:09:40 by of_sam »

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:05:56 »
Need
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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:06:23 »
pretty nice, will def be on :thumb:




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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:06:31 »
Finally! In for sure  :)

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:06:41 »
Oh boy, finally an international tkl gb for matrix

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:07:30 »
 :thumb:

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Re: [IC]&lt; Me &gt;覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:07:39 »
Kinda nice!

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:08:00 »
OH MY GODDDD FINALLYYY
gonna be my first matrix TKL
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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:08:14 »
hope for intl gb

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:08:41 »
v pog

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:08:56 »
Def grabbing this!!

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:09:27 »
P hot

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:10:09 »
Very nice!

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:11:04 »
oh boi
Tell me why...

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:14:45 »
This doesn't look like the normal Matrix that i am used to seeing, but still very cool. Definitely interested in this!

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:15:14 »
Well I guess I'm broke

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:40:24 »
Cool stuff. Would love to see the tabs around the spacebar adjusted a bit.

edit: and also forget those side mount tabs  :eek:

Agree

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Re: [IC]&lt; Me &gt;覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:51:20 »
Yes.

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:58:14 »
poggies  ;D

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 11:59:17 »
hope for intl gb

it is intl gb, that is why it is posted on gh :thumb:




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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:02:23 »
Finally, let's go.
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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:04:16 »
I like the leaf-spring plate. I agree with others, you might want to consider to remove the side gasket. Also, please consider to add unified daughterboard.


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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:07:53 »
I am in.  This board has so many features that I want that I don't know how to resist.

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:08:56 »
PC option plz   :thumb:

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:10:27 »
i'm interested in  This keyboard. I am happy that Matrix   has become the international  keyboard people  : )  Yes yes !!  It is definitely one of treeleaf's favorite keyboard
 

Great anodization Perfect QC   Amazing Build quality  it is everything a young treeleaf   venturing into the keyboard   could want

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:18:46 »
Finally I can get a Matrix TKL direct!!! Exciting and it looks great too!

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:20:18 »
I am 100% behind our Matrix badge overlords!

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:21:29 »
Cool stuff. Would love to see the tabs around the spacebar adjusted a bit.

edit: and also forget those side mount tabs  :eek:

I have to agree with this friendly gentleman acquaintance. No need for tabs around spacebar or sides.

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:22:43 »
Cool stuff. Would love to see the tabs around the spacebar adjusted a bit.

edit: and also forget those side mount tabs  :eek:

I have to agree with this friendly gentleman acquaintance. No need for tabs around spacebar or sides.

No idea who these weirdos are . Completely agree though, they raise a good point.  Will be unnecessary and change feel for the worse. 
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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:41:20 »
Looks awesome Albert!
This and the swiss cheese keyboard is the next generation of keyboards

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:43:12 »
Nice! Good luck.
EU vendor would be nice.

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Re: [IC]< Me >覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 12:57:44 »
Cool stuff. Would love to see the tabs around the spacebar adjusted a bit.

edit: and also forget those side mount tabs  :eek:

I have to agree with this friendly gentleman acquaintance. No need for tabs around spacebar or sides.

No idea who these weirdos are . Completely agree though, they raise a good point.  Will be unnecessary and change feel for the worse. 
Ty again Mr/Mrs Matrix

I too agree with removing the tabs on the side and spacebar! Also consider me 100% joining this group buy, I always wanted a Matrix TKL for its aesthetic!  ^-^

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 13:15:56 »
finally a matrix tkl international

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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 13:27:03 »
hyped! and thanks for supporting the badges from previous runs.

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 14:24:23 »
Case looks pretty nice. Fan of the more clean and simple Matrix designs. 16 mounting tabs on the plate and placement a little scary tho. Most interested to see what the per-key flex cuts will feel like.

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 14:26:22 »
Nice, hope you'll consider an EU vendor

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 14:50:57 »
looks very nice. can't wait for proto pics

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 14:55:09 »
Great name, cool plate design.

I'm watching :cool:


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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 15:07:51 »
Interesting all around.  I'll definitely follow closely.  Although, I'm sure I'm not in the minority here in still wanting a more traditional Matrix TKL available to the outside market.  Maybe next offering?

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 15:40:53 »
Cool design  :thumb:

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 15:52:39 »
I prayed for a 2.0 Add International Group Buy... but I think this might be better.
My wallet needs to be ready.

EDIT: on another note, I've got some questions about that plate upgrade
  • Can you tell us more about it? Maybe some physical tests?
  • How does it compare vs regular plates?
  • Since it's such a well-engineered piece, will it only come with an aluminum option?
« Last Edit: Fri, 14 May 2021, 15:55:39 by lush_bunny »

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 15:59:33 »
hawt!!! would love to see an international GB of an already existing board like 2.0add, falcon, or 1.2og

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 16:15:13 »
very exciting, going to prepare for this!!

Renders and plate show that stepped caps lock is supported, however layout image shows otherwise.

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 16:35:23 »
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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:00:39 »
Good Job  :thumb:

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 18:06:42 »
Is this considered to be part of the Abel family or the 1.2/2.0 family or something completely different?

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 19:17:02 »
Looks great! Could you provide any info about typing angle, please?

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Re: [IC]Hi, its <Me>覧 Matrix Lab new TKL!
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 14 May 2021, 19:38:04 »
Simple and elegant, I love it!.

Any chance for a lilac color?
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