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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by SENSY LAB on Tue, 24 February 2026, 03:21:12 »
Quote from: VXQN on Mon, 23 February 2026, 02:21:11
Cool board and I love how many options there are! Shame about the nav cluster accent, I much prefer the look of the seal100.

For us, Seal100 is an ancestral product from which we have derived different branches. Who knows if we'll come up with other designs later? Hahaha
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by SENSY LAB on Tue, 24 February 2026, 03:16:46 »
Quote from: xyzzy42 on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:24:11
It looks like all PCBs, except EC, only support 7U space tsangan bottom row.  Something that comes with using vintage switches is that one usually must also use vintage keycaps harvested from a vintage board, so there is no choice in bottom row.  Many vintage boards (e.g. all Apple ALPS boards) are not tsangan bottom row.  There is really no drawback to adding more bottom row options to PCB.

In fact, there is a huge problem here. Due to compatibility issues, if we need to be compatible with both 7u and 6.25u, it will cause many holes in the bottom row to invert. And this will cause conflicts with the bottom shell when using shafts with excessively long pins. Therefore, in fact, Chinese users will see that we added more bottom row options in the initial sampling, but ultimately we removed these.

For the Apple keyboard, due to the unique height of the keycaps, we do not believe that assembling the Apple keycaps onto a regular keyboard is a wise choice. We also have a keyboard called Separation under development, which will be specifically designed to fit the keycaps of Apple keyboards.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by SENSY LAB on Tue, 24 February 2026, 03:10:45 »
Quote from: utoy on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:09:27
Will there be an EC kit included?

We have partnered with Metakeebs in GB in China and provided their EC kit. If it is possible to reach an agreement with the vendors, then we will also join the international GB.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by SENSY LAB on Tue, 24 February 2026, 03:08:59 »
Quote from: xyzzy42 on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:02:12
Is it possible to put a EC11 rotary knob in the upper right switch position?   It's possible to fit this into the same PCB with Alps switches, without losing anything, e.g. like this PCB https://karolingian.com/products/alpine8kal-tkl-pcb-for-alps

We currently do not have this plan. On the one hand, our PCB already has too many hole positions, and it is difficult for me to confirm whether adding more hole positions will affect the wiring. At the same time, the knob requires additional programming.
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Interest Checks / Re: GMK Distortion- Added Vendors, Updated colors
« Last post by madmax13 on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:58:38 »
2/23- Added Prototypist as vendor, corrected small error in kitting diagram.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by xyzzy42 on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:24:11 »
It looks like all PCBs, except EC, only support 7U space tsangan bottom row.  Something that comes with using vintage switches is that one usually must also use vintage keycaps harvested from a vintage board, so there is no choice in bottom row.  Many vintage boards (e.g. all Apple ALPS boards) are not tsangan bottom row.  There is really no drawback to adding more bottom row options to PCB.
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by utoy on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:09:27 »
Will there be an EC kit included?
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Interest Checks / Re: [IC]篆Seal TKL - The story of 1 keyboard and 7 systems
« Last post by xyzzy42 on Tue, 24 February 2026, 01:02:12 »
Is it possible to put a EC11 rotary knob in the upper right switch position?   It's possible to fit this into the same PCB with Alps switches, without losing anything, e.g. like this PCB https://karolingian.com/products/alpine8kal-tkl-pcb-for-alps
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Keyboards / Re: Realforce R4
« Last post by Jucko on Mon, 23 February 2026, 19:20:43 »
Quote from: phinix on Sun, 22 February 2026, 13:43:17
Quote from: Jucko on Sun, 21 December 2025, 09:53:16
I recently received my R4 its a solid feeling board overall but it has its problems. For one its a huge PITA to open, and nearly impossible to open without slightly damaging the case (might be skill issue lol). The domes inside are weirdly grippy like sticky tack, typing they feel exactly the same as every other oem dome. The dome strips (1-4) are pitted on the bottom, something Ive never seen before while the dome sheets are pristine, it could be that their molds are getting worn out.

Techbeezin did a great teardown and review over on KT if anyone is interested: https://www.keebtalk.com/t/realforce-r4-r4hd11-teardown/23658

What do you mean pitted at the bottom? What does it mean?

I'm wondering, I think I would liek to get a Realforce keyboard and mod it with mx sliders and everything that DES made for topre so far. I don't even know what its there, last time I modded RF was 3-5 years ago.
What is new now for topre? I mean what is good to use from DES to mod the boards nowadays. Definitely wuld take heavy domes, like 80-90g, but what about other bits they sell? Should I think of housings swap? Springs? All those pads etc?

Would R4 be good for modding? I know its PITA to open etc but overall, what would be better. I only modded R1, R2 and HHKBs.
Maybe should pick R3? R3 or R4, I dont want to do cable mod anymore, just have USB-C.

If I like 80g linear cherry mx switches (or 75g tactiles), should I go with 85g green des domes, or better go with grey 70g?


There are some pics of the dome pitting in the link from my last post (they kinda look like swiss cheese), it doesn't effect the feel of the domes (at least that i can tell) it seems like just visual imperfections.

As for modding, DES isn't the only place to get parts anymore, recently Dynacap and Metapulse launched with their own domes and mx compatible sliders and housings. Id highly recommend you check them out. As for gaskets and pads and such I believe DES is the only supplier.

Honestly I cant really recommend the R4 as a good modding platform, it takes WAY to much effort to open and its really easy to damage the case while doing so, if you want usb-c id have to say go with the R3 its definitely a lot more difficult then say an R1 but its infinitely easier to open than an R4.

Its pretty difficult to compare mx switch weight with topre/ec dome weights as they dont really translate that well, ive found that dome weights usually run heavier than their mx counterparts, for example 45g oem domes feel more like 50-55g. DES has some great dome offerings but id look into some of the newer domes as well like Astrodomes, Metapulse, and Dynacap. If youre looking for the most tactility id recommend BKE style domes.
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Off Topic / Re: What's Bothering You? (The thread about what is bothering you.)
« Last post by JaccoW on Mon, 23 February 2026, 18:28:52 »
Quote from: JaccoW on Tue, 27 December 2016, 15:35:14
Going over my Paypal expenses from 2015 since Kin25 is posting again then running into my Miami Nights invoice:
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At least the Euro was stronger back then.
Got messaged on Reddit about selling Miami Nights. Never got it. Finally checked in here since 5 years and got reminded of the Ivan Ivanovich scam GB.  :-\

Ah well, wouldn't mind getting that back but it's long gone and forgotten.

Mostly spending money of Hifi and bikes nowadays.

Thought I could use a new PCB for my Duck Keypad to match the Orion. Messed it up one day while soldering and never managed to repair it again.

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