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[IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune (updated with colors)
« on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:25:39 »
IRON180 by Smith + Rune
 




Updates, Oct 24th, 2020

Colors announced! DeskHero will also be joining us for this run, having 100 additional boards for sale! Go Cananda!

The IRON180 will be offered in the following colors, each available with an optional brass base.

- Graphite
- Midnight Green
- E-White

Updates, Oct 9th, 2020

Vendors, quantities, and pricing announced!

CannonKeys (200 boards)
$585 w/aluminum base
$835 w/full brass base

MyKeyboard.eu (100 boards)
589€ inc/VAT w/aluminum base
845€ inc/VAT w/full brass base

iLumkb (300 boards)
799 SGD w/aluminum base
1138 SGD w/full brass base

Group Buy Date: November 14th, 2020

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With the group buy for our debut board, IRON165, in its final stages, we thought now would be great time to present the next board in the Iron series, the IRON180 tenkeyless keyboard.

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Features

  • 7 Degree Typing Angle
  • Full Gasket Isolation Mount
  • Low-profile Front Height (less than 17mm)
  • Seamless Design
  • Optimized plate (see analysis below)
  • USB-C daughterboard, centered (designed by ai03 and friends)
  • QMK/VIA compatible PCB
  • Color-matched Rune artisan keycap
  • Polished stainless steel Rune in base

Supported Layouts



Pricing and Vendors

Pricing: To be announced soon!

USA: CannonKeys - 200 boards
EU: MyKeyboard.eu - 100 boards
SEA/World: iLumkb - 300 boards

Colors and Options

Updates coming soon!



FEA Plate Analysis

More

Keyboard plate FEA analysis was needed to measure deflection and try to achieve a uniform plate deflection distribution across the keyboard.  This was a continuation of the work done on our Iron165 Keyboard.  You can read more up on it here and our testing methodology:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101470.0
For the Iron180 I started with the same basic principles but instead of starting from scratch I imported a lot of the design features from the Iron165, added some relief cuts to better suit a TKL and began modeling.  The first results were less than ideal, as expected working with a much larger plate.  Here are the initial results.



Results had a large range from 0.2532mm down to 0.0990mm.  The upper relief cuts needed to start disappearing quickly to even this up.



Much better in the upper left, but bottom row still wasn’t where we wanted it.



Horizontal cuts below the ‘B’ key really helped get them in line.  Plus added a lot of cuts between mod keys



Removed more relief cuts from the top, and added a connection in one to lower the right bracket key value.  Also added a connection beneath the ‘B’ key but it added way to much support.



More small changes, reverted ‘B’ key connection



More a quality of life, replaced all the ugly cuts at the top with the mod relief cuts, cleaned up more spots.



This was intended to be the final one but I wanted to run more test to see what difference adding some cuts to the number row would make on the alphas below them.



Finalized plate!



Monochrome - Renders by MacSurfy







Graen - Renders by Abec







Black Lotus - Renders by Abec







Botanical - Renders by Abec







Special Thanks

  • LBaron, the other half of Smith + Rune!
  • Capsy, bhk1004, Langelandia, Urbantheii, Full, Spade, and Eskimojo, best team ever!
  • Everyone who has supported us this far. We couldn't have got to this point without you!
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Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:26:13 »
reserved

Offline Zeelobby

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:26:34 »
Fuuuuudge. Ok. Gotta get in on this. Been wanting a tkl this year.

Offline jmsp0511

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:27:58 »
Looking good looking good!

Offline Jaltr

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:30:20 »
Very excited!

Offline Crack85

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:30:28 »
In!! Looks sweet

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Offline Jaltr

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:30:54 »
How limited will this be? 100 for NA like the 165?

Offline urbantheii

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:31:07 »
GIMME THE IRON

Offline ttom

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:31:28 »
really regret not getting the 165, will definitely try my luck with this

Offline Furikurichemy

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:31:58 »
ooooh yesss.

Offline pengoot02

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:33:05 »
with your plate it seems like you started out with keycults public no.2 plate files 🤔

Offline stopitsme

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:36:03 »
100% in for this

Offline Tekniqs

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:36:36 »
oh my!

Offline terrad

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:36:48 »
The second piece of my IRON collection!

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:42:14 »
Very interesting!
Will try to join the GB!

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:43:18 »
uhyup, lookin really good!
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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:44:02 »
how come you never measured the spacebar? I'm afraid it's going to feel stiff because of that mounting position. 
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Offline evorus5

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:46:29 »
Yeeeeeahhh.
I'ma need one.


Offline ninlawen

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:49:01 »
Consider my interest checked.

Offline Lormania

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:49:47 »
Looks great!

Offline baobaozi

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:55:15 »
Looking good!

Offline Hawksmoor

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:03:07 »
Yep. Looks amazing. 100% in.
Can't come soon enough

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:10:19 »
Yes.

What else do I need to say?


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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:11:14 »
Very nice. I am interested!

Offline lbaron

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:12:12 »
how come you never measured the spacebar? I'm afraid it's going to feel stiff because of that mounting position.

I just measure it and it's is a little stiffer than the rest of the alphas.  A little more centered around the gasket relief cut on the Tsangan buttom.  I will keep working and tweaking it for the spacebar to make it more consistent with the alphas.  Thank you for raising the question :)


Offline GPrix

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:13:31 »
My feelings were a little hurt when I missed the first round, now I'm completely salivating! Heck yes with this one. 💯

Offline blizzara01

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:15:12 »
I fooled myself that this will be a 1800 layout based on the name. Any renders of bottom?

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:18:53 »
...need...

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:29:40 »
Love the philosophy of 165 def would like to try the TKL

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 20:34:47 »
You had me at TKL.

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:03:19 »
Really liked Iron165 but I am a TKL user. I will definitely try to snatch one of these :)

Offline evorus5

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:05:29 »
Wait. But does the plate reach convergence in your FEA!?


Offline Abdallah9

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:10:25 »
I am so excited for another S&R board. Just one question, will you offer WKL as an option?

Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:15:59 »
I am so excited for another S&R board. Just one question, will you offer WKL as an option?

Yep! We just haven't had it rendered just yet!

Offline psvntrm

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:18:26 »
Hot swap?

Offline Novafish

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:18:44 »
wkl?  :-*

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:28:07 »
in! going to be my first custom, if i get lucky

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:37:14 »
oh rip my wallet i guess

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:49:48 »
Nice.

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« Reply #39 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 21:52:16 »
 I assume the GB for this will be a bloodbath, but I'll start saving up anyway.
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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 22:21:05 »
I'm in

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 22:26:05 »
with your plate it seems like you started out with keycults public no.2 plate files 🤔
lulwut

First - nope. that's not how it was done.
Second - you intentionally typed "public" - had they used them (which they didn't) why is your comment even valid? They made them public for people to use...

"I see you've used the Drop-owned public forum, Geekhack, to post your [IC] 🤔" <---this is how you sound

Apologies for being spicy - but your comment does nothing positive for anyone.

Offline Cardistryan

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 22:36:51 »
Would love to see the smith & rune logo somewhere on the front, even if subtle. I really want that extra designer detail like the iron165 if you would consider it :)

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 22:56:59 »
That dark green color in the first picture is amazing. Hope it's to be one of the options.

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:01:48 »
Would love to see the smith & rune logo somewhere on the front, even if subtle. I really want that extra designer detail like the iron165 if you would consider it :)

So for a logo and f13, our idea is to include an artisan anodized and matched to the color of the top case for a couple reasons.
Not a lot of keycaps sets cover f13, this way it blends right into the case and doesn’t stand out like a sore thumb. Second, if you don't like branding cause I know there are TKL purist you can remove it all together. And lastly, if you do have a F13 keyset you can simply use F13 key and move it to escape or another location if you like the logo.

We liked the idea of people being able to reuse the badge or extra badges purchased with the Iron165 but couldn’t find a good fit for it on the board.

Offline WeathermanKarlos

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:09:44 »
Looks great!

So for a logo and f13, our idea is to include an artisan anodized and matched to the color of the top case for a couple reasons.

IMO, a logo engraving above the arrow keys generally looks good on TKLs. I think the artisan idea is neat, but I joined the aeboards Aegis GB and they did a similar thing with a custom Rama cap. I love the board, but have literally never seen a picture with someone using the keycap. Just my two cents.

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:13:34 »
Would love to see the smith & rune logo somewhere on the front, even if subtle. I really want that extra designer detail like the iron165 if you would consider it :)

So for a logo and f13, our idea is to include an artisan anodized and matched to the color of the top case for a couple reasons.
Not a lot of keycaps sets cover f13, this way it blends right into the case and doesn’t stand out like a sore thumb. Second, if you don't like branding cause I know there are TKL purist you can remove it all together. And lastly, if you do have a F13 keyset you can simply use F13 key and move it to escape or another location if you like the logo.

We liked the idea of people being able to reuse the badge or extra badges purchased with the Iron165 but couldn’t find a good fit for it on the board.

I think it’s a great idea. I agree with your logic and love the flexibility to have the branding if you want it and skip it if you don’t. Plus having a cap for F13 when sets don’t cover it. Brilliant!

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:20:02 »
This is exactly what I've been looking for to go with the GMK botanical that I ordered! Either that dark green, or that white would be amazing!! Looking good, will buy.

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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:25:25 »
I cannot wait for the WKL renders!
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Re: [IC] IRON180 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:42:32 »
Am a fan of f13 keys in general, looking forward to this!