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Offline FireLock

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #450 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 12:42:57 »
Hotswap would indeed be an interesting option. Would most likely buy both. But only if both were ISO ofc. #rip#wallet

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« Reply #451 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 12:59:20 »
I don't know if this has been answered yet, but do you have a estimate/range for pricing after these new changes? I initial didn't really consider this board do to it's price estimate, but if the changes managed to significantly change the cost it might be accessible to me and other people who we're initial turned of by the estimated price.

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #452 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 13:29:26 »
I don't know if this has been answered yet, but do you have a estimate/range for pricing after these new changes? I initial didn't really consider this board do to it's price estimate, but if the changes managed to significantly change the cost it might be accessible to me and other people who we're initial turned of by the estimated price.

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It will be cheaper compared to the first iteration, but I don't have anything that I'm ready (or prepared) to share at the moment.

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #453 on: Thu, 07 May 2020, 16:05:35 »
This is a crazy keyboard, I am in for sure. Thank you for making this happen (:

Offline dlavelle94

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« Reply #454 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 06:13:51 »
This is a thing of beauty, I am 1000% in.

Offline Cobalt

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« Reply #455 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 13:54:56 »
Millmax sockets cost maybe $15-30 depending on what model you get. It adds maybe 15 more min to the soldering process. I much prefer having stepped caps and all the other layout options all on 1 pcb rather than driving up the price and QC time to buy separate fixed hotswap pcbs. I understand the convenience of hotswap and it has it's benefits, but soldering is not hard guys. Get millmax sockets if you want hotswap.

Would you be kind enough to show me where I can buy mill max sockets for $15-30 for a tkl? I would love to have lots of layout options as well but I find myself switching switches (heh) more often than layouts.

Offline ab042896

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« Reply #456 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 14:18:04 »
Millmax sockets cost maybe $15-30 depending on what model you get. It adds maybe 15 more min to the soldering process. I much prefer having stepped caps and all the other layout options all on 1 pcb rather than driving up the price and QC time to buy separate fixed hotswap pcbs. I understand the convenience of hotswap and it has it's benefits, but soldering is not hard guys. Get millmax sockets if you want hotswap.

Would you be kind enough to show me where I can buy mill max sockets for $15-30 for a tkl? I would love to have lots of layout options as well but I find myself switching switches (heh) more often than layouts.
Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.
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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #457 on: Fri, 08 May 2020, 18:27:42 »
Millmax sockets cost maybe $15-30 depending on what model you get. It adds maybe 15 more min to the soldering process. I much prefer having stepped caps and all the other layout options all on 1 pcb rather than driving up the price and QC time to buy separate fixed hotswap pcbs. I understand the convenience of hotswap and it has it's benefits, but soldering is not hard guys. Get millmax sockets if you want hotswap.

Would you be kind enough to show me where I can buy mill max sockets for $15-30 for a tkl? I would love to have lots of layout options as well but I find myself switching switches (heh) more often than layouts.
Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.

^ Yup.
If you're in NA, u/tonsoffun49 does occasional gb's for millmax sockets. https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/fzjwkb/gb_millmax_sockets_0305_7305_24_pin_dip_socket/

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« Reply #458 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 09:07:45 »

Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.
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The only caveat is that shipping to where I live would cost another 20$(Im form eastern Europe). Moreover Id have to buy a decent soldering station ( + solder) or pay someone to do it. With all these added costs Id rather buy another pcb. The soldering station might be a good investment in general but I dont plan on making/buying any keyboards for a long while after this one.

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #459 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 09:46:17 »
Quote

Depending where your from: https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0%20
If you get 2 per switch and add some extras for multiple layout compatibility, so about 200 sockets, it'll be almost $30 for a TKL.

The only caveat is that shipping to where I live would cost another 20$(Im form eastern Europe). Moreover Id have to buy a decent soldering station ( + solder) or pay someone to do it. With all these added costs Id rather buy another pcb. The soldering station might be a good investment in general but I dont plan on making/buying any keyboards for a long while after this one.

If you are in Europe you can order them through https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/mill-max-7305-hotswap-receptacles-40-pack-for-20-switches_2097/ right now so the total price should be lower if you order it there.


Offline Cobalt

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« Reply #460 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 11:54:46 »
If you are in Europe you can order them through https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/mill-max-7305-hotswap-receptacles-40-pack-for-20-switches_2097/ right now so the total price should be lower if you order it there.

It's only ~5 euro cheaper but if I'll ever buy something from them I'll consider getting those sockets as well. Thanks!

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« Reply #461 on: Thu, 14 May 2020, 06:24:05 »
Cool Bottom. ;)

Offline GMK83

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« Reply #462 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 06:54:02 »
Iím really looking forward to this boardís release.  Itís been great to see the evolution of the Evolv thus far!

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #463 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 10:47:42 »
Any plans for artisan knobs like the Rama knob for the Satisfaction 75?

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Offline Vidhur100

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« Reply #464 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 15:15:47 »
Is there an estimate for when the GB is?

Offline Wamuu

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« Reply #465 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 18:33:58 »
I'd still like to see even more organic design. I still would like to see maybe branching that also goes laterally instead of just straight down the middle from the initial branch.

Offline perry4761

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« Reply #466 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 22:15:44 »
Is the resin version happening? If so, will it be happening at the same time as the metal one or after? Would you be willing to license the files for people who were not lucky enough to win the raffle, but have access to a 3d printer and want to make their own case?

I was not planning on joining anything else for at least a year, but this project is so unique that I would join tomorrow if the GB opened then. Can't wait!
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Offline wing1098

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« Reply #467 on: Wed, 20 May 2020, 22:20:38 »
interested, how much it will be? :thumb:

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« Reply #468 on: Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:07:30 »
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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #469 on: Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:44:55 »
Any plans for artisan knobs like the Rama knob for the Satisfaction 75?
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Yes! More details as we get closer to launch!

I'd still like to see even more organic design. I still would like to see maybe branching that also goes laterally instead of just straight down the middle from the initial branch.

Me too, however, manufacturing the base is a complicated problem as it is. I've spent the last two weeks working and reworking the base with my manufacturer, and unfortunately, very organic geometry like that doesn't get made cheaply.

Is there an estimate for when the GB is?

Not yet

interested, how much it will be? :thumb:

TBD

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #470 on: Fri, 22 May 2020, 05:14:09 »
I wait on GMK Ursa , now just need my ISO Evolv.
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Offline Alpha1

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« Reply #471 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 20:41:35 »
Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

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« Reply #472 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:43:23 »
Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.

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« Reply #473 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:46:21 »
Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.


Cough 60%/45% cough   :-X
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Offline NathanAlphaMan

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | Updated OP + Prototype Writeup + New IC Form
« Reply #474 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:55:58 »
Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.


Cough 60%/45% cough   :-X

If only I liked either of those layouts lol.

Maybe one day :p

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | Updated OP + Prototype Writeup + New IC Form
« Reply #475 on: Tue, 26 May 2020, 22:58:43 »
Another thought is that this layout with the joystick encoder is exactly what I, and many others, want, if you could offer the same layout but in a less premium package (simpler machined or injection molded base) after this first one is done. Have your halo tier typing experience focused model, and a more accessible hobbyist model. Though I understand if that takes away from your whole concept here.

I have plans for exactly this, but it won't be until after the Evolv GB completes

I was reading through the comments on this interest check and saw this. Would you be able to expand upon this idea? I really love the design but I'm not sure it will be in my budget, even with the redesign.

Yep! After the Evolv is complete I plan on doing a more financially accessible 65% version.


Cough 60%/45% cough   :-X

If only I liked either of those layouts lol.

Maybe one day :p

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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #476 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 02:27:07 »
It has everything I want, but scared to see what the price will be  :confused:

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« Reply #477 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:14:19 »
What is that keycap set in the first renders (the blue and pink/orange on the black top) it looks amazing

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« Reply #478 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 10:20:26 »
What is that keycap set in the first renders (the blue and pink/orange on the black top) it looks amazing

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« Reply #479 on: Sun, 31 May 2020, 12:03:42 »
What is that keycap set in the first renders (the blue and pink/orange on the black top) it looks amazing

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« Reply #480 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 15:07:32 »
Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

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« Reply #481 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 16:16:37 »
Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

With the complexity of the design, I sure hope there is a limit. QC would be a living hell otherwise.
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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #482 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 16:40:28 »
Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

With the complexity of the design, I sure hope there is a limit. QC would be a living hell otherwise.

This is correct, GB will be limited, with spots be allocated through a raffle

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« Reply #483 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 04:12:44 »
This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I canít find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #484 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:39:10 »
Is there going to be a limit on this or is it open GB?

With the complexity of the design, I sure hope there is a limit. QC would be a living hell otherwise.

This is correct, GB will be limited, with spots be allocated through a raffle
Fingers crossed


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« Reply #485 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:47:21 »
This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I canít find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars

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« Reply #486 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 07:22:46 »
This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I canít find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars
And clearly it was not. Haha

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« Reply #487 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 07:27:31 »
This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I canít find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars
And clearly it was not. Haha

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Ouch. Iíll still keep an eye on this, but I might then rather set my heart on something more conventional, like a Duck or the upcoming Rama M65-B, however long that will take.


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Re: [IC] Evolv has Evolved | More organic base for v2, check page 9.
« Reply #488 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:55:05 »
This looks awesome. You say v2 will (hopefully) be cheaper than v1 - I canít find much info online about v1.

Could you let me know the price for v1, so I can tell my wallet what the upper limit (or even just ballpark figure) will be?


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For V1, the only price was that it would be under 1000 dollars
And clearly it was not. Haha

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Ouch. Iíll still keep an eye on this, but I might then rather set my heart on something more conventional, like a Duck or the upcoming Rama M65-B, however long that will take.


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V1 was never released, which is why so little info is available on it. In short, I was unhappy with a number of aspects on the prototype, so I ended up redesigning the board to not only bring down cost, but also to make the entire Evolv experience better.

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« Reply #489 on: Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:59:13 »
Thanks @NathanAlphaMan. It still looks awesome, so I will keep an eye on this and hope my wallet is strong when it hits GB.


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« Reply #490 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 00:43:05 »
the more i look at the prototypes, i feel there is a slight mismatch between the top and bottom half.
the bottom looks really organic, like the roots of a tree. but the top half looks structured and industrial.
I feel if the bottom half were to be more symmetrical and "grill" like, the entire package would be better matched. just my opinion.

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« Reply #491 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 12:06:42 »
The redesign has me interested! Any possible price estimate? This look a lot more forgiving on the wallet to produce. I hope it is.

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« Reply #492 on: Wed, 03 June 2020, 13:01:47 »
Personally, I think that the rounded corners of the top will help feel more organic and living thing. This is because creatures do not have angles.