[IC] GMK Wise Wolf | GB 9/21 | Collab Announced

[Nutty]

Hello Geekhack!

My name is Nutty/Jordan and today I would like to introduce a project that I've been working on:

GMK Wise Wolf

This set is inspired by the character Holo from the series Spice & Wolf by Isuna Hasekura.

Holo the "Wise Wolf" of Yoitsu, a deity of harvest, joins a traveling merchant for a journey in a medieval European setting.

IC Form

Please fill out my IC Form to help me gauge interest as well as for any criticism, changes, suggestions, or feedback.

Additionally, if you're interested, I do have a Discord if you join, just go into the rules and roles and react to the keyboard role.

Colorway

These colors where chosen where based of the physical scale figures of Holo that I own as well as books and other merchandise.

RAL 060 50 50 as the mod cap color to match that of her hair.

RAL 080 90 10 is a light tan almost white which pairs well with the lighter tips of her ears and tail.

RAL 030 40 60 is a rich and vibrant red that resembles an apple.

Kits

This being my first set, I may have some issues with kitting. I have had some help and done a bit of research and I believe that I offered a substantial amount to the majority.

Base - Wise Wolf

Hiragana - Ookami (狼)

Novelties - Traveling Merchant

Spacebars - Wheat Fields

40% - Pups

Deskmats

Bountiful Harvest - illustrated by TomTC

Quiet Tavern - illustrated by TomTC

Collab x Wise Wolf

Mechfashion

Additional Pictures

GB Dates, Vendors, and Pricing

August 2021

US	TX Keyboards
EU	Mykeyboard
Asia	zFrontier
SEA	iLumkb
Oceania	Daily Clack
Canada	Keyspresso

Renders

Sunsetter

Fuji65

Iron165

Fjell

TGR Alice

TGR Jane

Special Thanks

With this being my first key cap set I had so many wonderful people help me through this project.

Xerpocalypse - Great friend who was a huge help with leading me in the right directions and introducing me to other members in community.

OneCreativeMind - A super nice person I had the pleasure to work with when designing my novelties.

trifelife - Nice friend who did with the calligraphy in the banner.

Bachoo - Great communication and was friendly while working on renders, and they turned out great.

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[Nutty]

To Do:
Feedback
Deskmats
Collab/Artisan
Get Vendor
Pricing
Dates
GB


Update Log:
11/4/2020 - Fixed some kitting issues. In base kit removed a set of Pg Up and Pg Dn. Added Yen sign to hiragana kit, added mod color |\, and added extra tab. Added 1.75u concave in spacebars kit. Added 1.25 tab in the 40% kit.
11/14/2020 - Gave an update to the vendors/proxies so far.
11/17/2020 - Added the deskmat mat design Bountiful Harvest.
11/20/2020 - Added the deskmat mat design Quiet Tavern.
11/21/2020 - Got a proxy/vendor for the Southeast Asia region.
12/01/2020 - Made some changes with the novelties. Removed some keys to cut cost while adding new designs for r4.
12/14/2020 - Update to novelties. Removed the wagon wheel, added pairs of 1u, 1.25u, and 1.5u. Included spacebars in 40's kit.
12/17/2020 - Got an NA vendor. Secured GB slot for August 2021.
12/18/2020 - Kit updates. Removed 4€ from base kit. Added 半角/全角, |\む¥, and ＞＜ろ. Changed the を and ー to full width. Added two 3u c to the spacebar kit. A lot of revisions to 40's kit.
1/4/2021 - Kit updates. On base kits removed extra 1u Ctrl, added r3 PgUp and r4 PgDn. Changed Hiragana alt alpha kit to a Hiragana base kit. On Hiragana kit fixed missing ¥ on r3 \| and added r1 1u `~ー. On spacebars kit added accent color spacebars in 6.25u and 7u. 40's kits minimized. Additional thanks to konstantin and others in the 40's discord for this break down of coverage.
2/10/2021 - Still working on kitting, but in order to reach preferred pricing ISO-UK will be getting switched for generic ISO. Collab for keyboard sleeves announced with Mechfashion.

[Sifo]

YOooooooo

very nice

[OtherAndrew]

please consider ¥ on pipe

[self]

Wooooow
This is amazing!! Good luck!

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[LightningXI]

Omg I love Holo

ne spice and wolf S3 avail T-T

that said, the kitting looks alright, though I'd probably remove some keys like
- Pg Up R3
- Pg Dn R4
- 1.5u Supers R4
- 2u Shift R4
for a bit of savings

And yes, yen sign on pipe please.

Other than that, definitely in my considerations. I'll post more if I get any more ideas (would suggest R5 bottom row but it'd probably get pricey)

[GreatKingNorann]

Looking forward to the GB


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[Xerpocalypse]

Yo this is mad cute

yes Jordan pls add ¥ on both pipe keys

[UXEN]

Very nice!

[yogidrink]

Very naisu

[dandruff]

Only real issue I can see right now is that the colorway is the same as another set in IC : JTK space camp, but I love the theme and novelties! Great job!

[Raravin]

Yo I like it!

[Bachoo]

Very nice 

[LightningXI]

Only real issue I can see right now is that the colorway is the same as another set in IC : JTK space camp, but I love the theme and novelties! Great job!

GMK > JTK

but all in all, I think the themes are far different and the novelties really make this set.

[Tyson]

Only real issue I can see right now is that the colorway is the same as another set in IC : JTK space camp, but I love the theme and novelties! Great job!

Themes and colors are very different imo, Space Camp's mods look more brown than orange, where as this sets mods are close to a burnt orange color. I definitely like the look of this one, my only complaint would be the S, and W novelties, to me they don't really fit in with the rest of the novelties. But that could just be me, I might be in for Base Kit when this runs!

[pwade3]

Just some kitting thoughts:

Add an extra tab to your hiragana kit, it adds some flexibility so in theory someone can buy it and fill 2 different boards (e.g. 1 tsangan style, 1 standard style). Additionally, since you've got a mod colored ~` you might as well add a mod colored |\ key too.

For base, going with full UK iso, the extra 1.5u supers, 2u shift, and 2x1u ctrl/alt is making it pretty thicc and might push pricing.

[FaIIen]

Why do you must forsake me like this...

[Kokaloo]

rEsErVeD!!1!11

REEEEsErVed@@@!!!111!1

reserverserverservesrsersvers

[RyuDragoon]

This reminds me of one of my favorite reddit posts...

https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/33dxxq/z/cqk87rp

[hali]

Just some kitting thoughts:

Add an extra tab to your hiragana kit, it adds some flexibility so in theory someone can buy it and fill 2 different boards (e.g. 1 tsangan style, 1 standard style).

yes please

[Esheu2]

yes

[break]

Congratulations on this IC! Seems there's a lot of love for this set in thread, so I hope getting it to GB is a straightforward process for you and others.

That said, I do find it challenging to overlook similarities between this and Space Camp. One of these color palettes belongs to JTK Space Camp: MARS. The other is GMK Wise Wolf.

It doesn't take a lot of effort to figure out which is which, because we've been handed all six swatches across both ICs, but you could likely swap novelties or accents from one onto the other with almost zero impact to the on-desk aesthetic.

It really seems like the similarity is unintentional. I don't mean to call you out!! I guess my Q is to the long-time participants of the community in thread. Folks seem to love both sets, and designers have put lots of effort into both. They seem to have emerged independently.

[Nutty]

WOW! Thank you all for the well received immediate feedback and support. This is my first set and I'm honestly quite giddy right now seeing it all. Really rewarding to see all this from almost a years worth of planning. From what I have seen so far, it seems I have a few kinks to fix mostly with kitting.

[low_key_keyboards]

Oh man I loved this series!

It's about time a set was themed on this.

Can there be more 1.25U and 1.5U novelties with the same 1U art?

For example, more range of apple novelty keycap sizes?

[Xerpocalypse]

Congratulations on this IC! Seems there's a lot of love for this set in thread, so I hope getting it to GB is a straightforward process for you and others.

That said, I do find it challenging to overlook similarities between this and Space Camp. One of these color palettes belongs to JTK Space Camp: MARS. The other is GMK Wise Wolf.

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It doesn't take a lot of effort to figure out which is which, because we've been handed all six swatches across both ICs, but you could likely swap novelties or accents from one onto the other with almost zero impact to the on-desk aesthetic.

It really seems like the similarity is unintentional. I don't mean to call you out!! I guess my Q is to the long-time participants of the community in thread. Folks seem to love both sets, and designers have put lots of effort into both. They seem to have emerged independently. So...now what?

Here's a great example of another situation that was vaguely similar:

GMK Demon Sword was criticized a lot for looking like GMK Rudy. Raravin was also pressured heavily by Warren to change his colors even though Rudy's GB was long over, but ended up adding hiragana to the base kit to differentiate it, even though he didn't really want to.

Demon Sword reached MOQ and exceeded it handily.  IIRC his pre-extras numbers were better than Rudy.

These sets can coexist too.

[Visionaire]

Congratulations on this IC! Seems there's a lot of love for this set in thread, so I hope getting it to GB is a straightforward process for you and others.

That said, I do find it challenging to overlook similarities between this and Space Camp. One of these color palettes belongs to JTK Space Camp: MARS. The other is GMK Wise Wolf.

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It doesn't take a lot of effort to figure out which is which, because we've been handed all six swatches across both ICs, but you could likely swap novelties or accents from one onto the other with almost zero impact to the on-desk aesthetic.

It really seems like the similarity is unintentional. I don't mean to call you out!! I guess my Q is to the long-time participants of the community in thread. Folks seem to love both sets, and designers have put lots of effort into both. They seem to have emerged independently. So...now what?

While I am not really a fan of the color scheme of either... I did initially think this set was a rebrand of something I had seen before (which turns out to be Space Camp). While these may have been derived individually, it will set an interesting precedent should they both run. Could set the tone that similarities can be ignored in today's market.

[nvh2092]

Please consider adding 1.25u Fn key to the base kit as it's widely used in TKL, full size keyboard and many 65% layouts

[Shinigamii]

Beautiful set, would love to see this become successful! Will definitely be picking up a set when the time comes

[Auracity]

Damn I **** with this hard

[Nutty]

So I'd like to additionally address the comparison made to another set. I just learned about the other set today. While there are similarities color, it seems they have different values for Hue, Lightness, and Chroma, especially since Space Camp uses Pantone colors. Though, I don't have a pantone book to compare physical samples, only RAL. I have been working on this set for quite some time before the other IC was posted. Also I waited over 14 weeks in a render queue with someone else before Bachoo picked up my request and saved me from my over 14 week wait. If you want to see where I got my inspiration from enjoy this picture

[BapoDonu]

So I'd like to additionally address the comparison made to another set. I just learned about the other set today. While there are similarities color, it seems they have different values for Hue, Lightness, and Chroma, especially since Space Camp uses Pantone colors. Though, I don't have a pantone book to compare physical samples, only RAL. I have been working on this set for quite some time before the other IC was posted. Also I waited over 14 weeks in a render queue with someone else before Bachoo picked up my request and saved me from my over 14 week wait. If you want to see where I got my inspiration from enjoy this picture

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Can we have the pic without the beige on the left

[illusixn]

So I'd like to additionally address the comparison made to another set. I just learned about the other set today. While there are similarities color, it seems they have different values for Hue, Lightness, and Chroma, especially since Space Camp uses Pantone colors. Though, I don't have a pantone book to compare physical samples, only RAL. I have been working on this set for quite some time before the other IC was posted. Also I waited over 14 weeks in a render queue with someone else before Bachoo picked up my request and saved me from my over 14 week wait. If you want to see where I got my inspiration from enjoy this picture

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I could be wrong here, but I think most people would have believed you even if the scantily clothed figurines hadn't been included in your photo.

I am a fan of the colors tho, glwic

[Kokaloo]

i love buying keycap sets based on a character the runner has most definitely jerked off to

[despairsray]

Oh ****. 100% in on this.

[Janoma]

I'm sorry, but these are the exact same.

I get that they are different in theme, but at the same time, these sets cannot run at the same time.

Rudy and Demon Sword were different, they have different accents and alpha colors, which sets them apart from each other. 

[Traveler]

I love Spice & Wolf. Best of luck with this set; I'll be keeping a close eye on it. Unfortunately I agree that in it's current for it does look waaay too much like Space Camp. But that's what ICs are for.

[jack47]

holo is best girl

[manaorme]

Please consider Rama art.
Red alu, apple design, filled with white enamel paint.

[Xerpocalypse]

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I'm sorry, but these are the exact same.

I get that they are different in theme, but at the same time, these sets cannot run at the same time.

Rudy and Demon Sword were different, they have different accents and alpha colors, which sets them apart from each other.

lol

[Janoma]

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I'm sorry, but these are the exact same.

I get that they are different in theme, but at the same time, these sets cannot run at the same time.

Rudy and Demon Sword were different, they have different accents and alpha colors, which sets them apart from each other.

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lol

I don't see your point here. Space Camp is an original color scheme that is SIMILAR to classic sets. Saying this and space camp are more different than space camp and lets say, Red Alert, is not correct.

[pool]

So I'd like to additionally address the comparison made to another set. I just learned about the other set today. While there are similarities color, it seems they have different values for Hue, Lightness, and Chroma, especially since Space Camp uses Pantone colors. Though, I don't have a pantone book to compare physical samples, only RAL. I have been working on this set for quite some time before the other IC was posted. Also I waited over 14 weeks in a render queue with someone else before Bachoo picked up my request and saved me from my over 14 week wait. If you want to see where I got my inspiration from enjoy this picture

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I may be wrong but this image didn't seem necessary to post, lol

[Shinigamii]

I don't see why similar color ways are such a big deal, they clearly have different inspirations but were just made around the same time.  They also are targeting different markets considering this is directly inspired by an anime character.  If similar colorways means more people can get sets that they like, and are of the based on something they like, the better for the consumers since this is a hobby that most of us are in for fun. 

[lelasdfasdf]

Congratulations on this IC! Seems there's a lot of love for this set in thread, so I hope getting it to GB is a straightforward process for you and others.

That said, I do find it challenging to overlook similarities between this and Space Camp. One of these color palettes belongs to JTK Space Camp: MARS. The other is GMK Wise Wolf.

Show Image

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It doesn't take a lot of effort to figure out which is which, because we've been handed all six swatches across both ICs, but you could likely swap novelties or accents from one onto the other with almost zero impact to the on-desk aesthetic.

It really seems like the similarity is unintentional. I don't mean to call you out!! I guess my Q is to the long-time participants of the community in thread. Folks seem to love both sets, and designers have put lots of effort into both. They seem to have emerged independently.

So both sets should run if they get the vendor support and if one of them doesn't make MOQ, then it doesn't make MOQ. If both of them don't make MOQ, both of them don't make MOQ. This is a creator's industry. Copying your youtube format is completely fine. Copying your twitch format is completely fine. And seriously, if the only thing that makes the set unique is the colorway, really should reconsider how much work is put into the set. Doesn't take a lot of time to put colors into KLE and buy some renders.

Don't want your colors taken? Go from IC -> GB -> Production quicker. Just like how keyboards are doing now. Look at D65 and Vega65. In-stock and ready to ship far before any GB is done. Sell -> Ship faster if one wants to guarantee the spot. I could see the issue if someone was copying novelties like with gmk sumi. BUT even then, it's not like these sets have any proper IP usage. If you're gonna go licensed, go licensed. Otherwise, stop trying to split hairs and pretend to have ownership to colors lmao.

[Ustinj]

Damn this guy was getting dumped on for being 'similar to GMK Delta': https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109334.0

yet look at the support here... not saying that this set isn't good, but I wish GH were not so rude to the other guy!

[hark]

Damn this guy was getting dumped on for being 'similar to GMK Delta': https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109334.0

yet look at the support here... not saying that this set isn't good, but I wish GH were not so rude to the other guy!

You're missing the point as to why that post was getting 'dumped' on. It was primarily not because it was similar to Delta, but because it was deemed low effort, without proper renders, kits, or actual physical colours such as Pantone or RAL colours. This on the other hand has proper renders, kits, and RAL colours. Delta has also already run while Space Camp is still in IC iirc.

[Raravin]

I dont see an issue, different inspirations. Sometimes cant  help cause it does match the inspiration. So many colorways go together that look good if we hate on everything that is similar we will run out of keysets.

[huey]

It's unfortunate that you spent so much time creating this idea/IC, and how it so closely overlaps with Space Camp seems to be a coincidence. It's a shame.

But I do not think we, at large, should allow two sets that are nearly identical (without pulling out RAL/Pantone charts) to run - regardless of their manufacture.
It's not indicative of how the "respect system" we have unspokenly agreed upon, in this hobby, should operate.

[Bunn3y]

This looks very pretty. Definitely keeping an eye out. GLWIC!

[//gainsborough]

Outstanding - 100% in!

Gotta say though... missed opportunity to call it "GMK Korbo" =P

[Ace_Archer]

I Love this! I would definitely build a board specifically for this set.