[IC] Trifecta, Prototype Pictures in Comments

[ilemondrop]

I was just thinking that more than one encoder would be a cool idea, great to see it in action!

[YMwoo]

I'm working on allowing it to be keyswitches and encoders so one has the choice for one or the either and we are moving the encoders so there is more space for fingers to turn them.

awesome! it looks great so far!

just few other questions:

• Asked this previously, but just in case, is it possible to include foam?
• I know you wrote that GB and Price are still undecided but is there any estimation you able to share? just want to plan out but will understand if you still can't say anything just yet

[swiftrax]

I'm working on allowing it to be keyswitches and encoders so one has the choice for one or the either and we are moving the encoders so there is more space for fingers to turn them.

awesome! it looks great so far!

just few other questions:

• Asked this previously, but just in case, is it possible to include foam?
• I know you wrote that GB and Price are still undecided but is there any estimation you able to share? just want to plan out but will understand if you still can't say anything just yet

Foam between pcb and plate? or foam between the bottom of the pcb and the bottom of the case?

[yqliang]

Love it! will definitely get one if priced well!

[vsrnth]

Loving the design, an option for switches in place of the encoders is a welcome change.

You've mentioned in the OP that you plan on open sourcing this from the get go. I'm just curious how that will work?

You'll open source the case  and pcb once the gb is done? Or do you plan on doing that before the gb?

I'm joining the gb either way



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[swiftrax]

Loving the design, an option for switches in place of the encoders is a welcome change.

You've mentioned in the OP that you plan on open sourcing this from the get go. I'm just curious how that will work?

You'll open source the case  and pcb once the gb is done? Or do you plan on doing that before the gb?

I'm joining the gb either way



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Design is currently being revised based on community feedback. Things are being changed and old versions can be found on github

[YMwoo]

just few other questions:

• Asked this previously, but just in case, is it possible to include foam?
• I know you wrote that GB and Price are still undecided but is there any estimation you able to share? just want to plan out but will understand if you still can't say anything just yet

Foam between pcb and plate? or foam between the bottom of the pcb and the bottom of the case?

Ideally both, unless it really affects the cost too much ofc. Tbh, I'm not sure myself but I think foam between pcb and case should affect the acoustic more?

[2Moons]

just few other questions:

• Asked this previously, but just in case, is it possible to include foam?
• I know you wrote that GB and Price are still undecided but is there any estimation you able to share? just want to plan out but will understand if you still can't say anything just yet

Foam between pcb and plate? or foam between the bottom of the pcb and the bottom of the case?

Ideally both, unless it really affects the cost too much ofc. Tbh, I'm not sure myself but I think foam between pcb and case should affect the acoustic more?

That's a good question. As far as foam is concerned. Between the pcb and the bottom of the case will be an absolute must. Especially since this is top mount and hot swap. I'm going to include this foam with each Trifecta. Also, if you have suggestions on the type of foam, I would welcome any suggestions you might have.

[KRY2SOON]

Blu

[2003987]

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

[2Moons]

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

[YMwoo]

just few other questions:

• Asked this previously, but just in case, is it possible to include foam?
• I know you wrote that GB and Price are still undecided but is there any estimation you able to share? just want to plan out but will understand if you still can't say anything just yet

Foam between pcb and plate? or foam between the bottom of the pcb and the bottom of the case?

Ideally both, unless it really affects the cost too much ofc. Tbh, I'm not sure myself but I think foam between pcb and case should affect the acoustic more?

That's a good question. As far as foam is concerned. Between the pcb and the bottom of the case will be an absolute must. Especially since this is top mount and hot swap. I'm going to include this foam with each Trifecta. Also, if you have suggestions on the type of foam, I would welcome any suggestions you might have.

Awesome! Thank you so much for that. Totally excited for this.
Unfortunately for the type of foam, I'm not too familiar with that either. Hopefully someone else can chip in with the suggestions.

[Agilr]

Looks great 2Moons! Can't wait to hear more updates on this

[2003987]

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?



2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?



3. What about this tree peony?



4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

[Evo_Spec]

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The new design looks great!
Much prefer this over the 3 encoders.

I'm curious how others feel but regarding the per-key lighting, I think even when splitting backspace, it's easy to solve the light bleed issue by putting tape or something over the middle LED. I know some might think of it as a low quality fix but it's easy and doesn't affect production methods so just one PCB can be made.

[Jaltr]

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?

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2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?

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3. What about this tree peony?

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4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

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I +1 the cherry blossom color! There's another Alice layout board with e-wine color (certainly not the same, but already "taken" so to speak)

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[2Moons]

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?

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2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?

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3. What about this tree peony?

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4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

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Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?

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2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?

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3. What about this tree peony?

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4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

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I +1 the cherry blossom color! There's another Alice layout board with e-wine color (certainly not the same, but already "taken" so to speak)

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I'm loving this blue. I think pinks and purples are out though, unless many people ask for them. I would to stick with red, blue, black, E white, and Poly. It's really to keep the cost down more than anything.

[ACF101015]

Any chance of a soldered PCB?

[Jaltr]

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?

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2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?

Show Image

3. What about this tree peony?

Show Image

4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

Show Image

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?

Show Image

2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?

Show Image

3. What about this tree peony?

Show Image

4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

Show Image

I +1 the cherry blossom color! There's another Alice layout board with e-wine color (certainly not the same, but already "taken" so to speak)

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I'm loving this blue. I think pinks and purples are out though, unless many people ask for them. I would to stick with red, blue, black, E white, and Poly. It's really to keep the cost down more than anything.

Maybe you should do a poll with the colors above?

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[swiftrax]

Blu

I am digging the blue, it would be perfect if its one shade darker, probably samurai blue? Maybe a polished finish?

I'll take any pantone color suggestions you might have. 

Not sure how others think, but personally I feel a little tired of the traditional (safe?) color offered by other Alice Layout?

Not saying I won't buy it even its traditional color but would love to see some other color variations, given your unconventional design. 

Just some random thoughts:

1. Prussian blue/ Samurai blue?

Show Image

2. A bit unconventional, but maybe Vine Grape?

Show Image

3. What about this tree peony?

Show Image

4. What about Japanese red plum blossom?

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Same order as above rendered onto the case as best I could

[TopreMoon]

This is really cool! Unfortunately, I'm too vested into the HHKB layout / split backspace.

[airyimbin]

I love the design. In terms of the layout, I think traditionally the split spacebar has the right side with a longer key and the left a shorter one.

Also I would prefer having an FN key to the right of the left side spacebar. This would be possible if the split spacebar setup was flipped like I mentioned above.

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[swiftrax]

This is really cool! Unfortunately, I'm too vested into the HHKB layout / split backspace.

There is split backspace so you can have that little one

[Luciqueii]

Wow interesting concept, good luck bro.

[logo4poop]

rgb bad, love u swiftrax

[2Moons]

• Encoders Spread out.
• Hot Swap or Soldered Option.
• Sides cut to easily pick up.
• Knobs or Switches on the right, you choose.
• Knobs to come in 3 colors.
• Most popular interest check colors rendered.

[Jaltr]

• Encoders Spread out.
• Hot Swap or Soldered Option.
• Sides cut to easily pick up.
• Knobs or Switches on the right, you choose.
• Knobs to come in 3 colors.
• Most popular interest check colors rendered.

Awesome to see the options! Will there be knobs as an extra option to purchase separately? And will the knobs be special in any way (engraving, materials, or even a collab)?

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[2Moons]

• Encoders Spread out.
• Hot Swap or Soldered Option.
• Sides cut to easily pick up.
• Knobs or Switches on the right, you choose.
• Knobs to come in 3 colors.
• Most popular interest check colors rendered.

Awesome to see the options! Will there be knobs as an extra option to purchase separately? And will the knobs be special in any way (engraving, materials, or even a collab)?

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There will be 3 different colors to choose from. You'll get 3 knobs of your color choice and it's up to you if you want to use them. That way you could always solder them on later instead of switches if you like. The encoder switches will not be hot swap.

I would like to Rama collab for special encoders, I will contact them.

[Jaltr]

• Encoders Spread out.
• Hot Swap or Soldered Option.
• Sides cut to easily pick up.
• Knobs or Switches on the right, you choose.
• Knobs to come in 3 colors.
• Most popular interest check colors rendered.

Awesome to see the options! Will there be knobs as an extra option to purchase separately? And will the knobs be special in any way (engraving, materials, or even a collab)?

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There will be 3 different colors to choose from. You'll get 3 knobs of your color choice and it's up to you if you want to use them. That way you could always solder them on later instead of switches if you like. The encoder switches will not be hot swap.

I would like to Rama collab for special encoders, I will contact them.

Oh gotcha, maybe I'll get all 3, just for keepsakes.

Rama collab would be fire

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[Jaltr]

Hey 2Moons, do you have an idea of a vendor?

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[xef]

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[swiftrax]

Hey 2Moons, do you have an idea of a vendor?

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Vendor is BaseKeys which would be him

[YMwoo]

forgot to ask this previously but any plan for VIA support?

[FinalEleven]

That dark purple just tugged at my heart...I would be all in for that.

[2Moons]

forgot to ask this previously but any plan for VIA support?

I would love to do VIA support. I will try my best to make it happen.

That dark purple just tugged at my heart...I would be all in for that.

I would love to do Purple, Pink, and some other colors but I feel that for the first round, we should keep it simple. Although I'll be able to do one-off pantone colors for anyone who wants one eventually. The other nice thing about this project is that you can always take the files to a company to have it made for you because the files are open source. I think that's a great thing.

[gummybur]

• Encoders Spread out.
• Hot Swap or Soldered Option.
• Sides cut to easily pick up.
• Knobs or Switches on the right, you choose.
• Knobs to come in 3 colors.
• Most popular interest check colors rendered.

New renders looking great! Just another suggestion from myself, the chin on the front of the board feels slightly out of place because of the relative sharpness compared to the rounded aesthetic the corners, encoder and side cutouts. Maybe you could try :
1. rounding out the chin at these 3 points to match how the rest of the board looks (the quasi alice by qlavier is an example)
2. Making the corners and side cutouts sharper and less rounded to match the chin, thereby making the encoders stand out more!

Sorry if I seem overbearing haha just really excited for this board!

[BruceDinh]

wowwwwwww

[swiftrax]

• Encoders Spread out.
• Hot Swap or Soldered Option.
• Sides cut to easily pick up.
• Knobs or Switches on the right, you choose.
• Knobs to come in 3 colors.
• Most popular interest check colors rendered.

New renders looking great! Just another suggestion from myself, the chin on the front of the board feels slightly out of place because of the relative sharpness compared to the rounded aesthetic the corners, encoder and side cutouts. Maybe you could try :
1. rounding out the chin at these 3 points to match how the rest of the board looks (the quasi alice by qlavier is an example)
2. Making the corners and side cutouts sharper and less rounded to match the chin, thereby making the encoders stand out more!

Sorry if I seem overbearing haha just really excited for this board!

Those 3 points are rounded but less aggressively

[chakkii]

only per key rgb or also underglow for the polycarb case?

[swiftrax]

only per key rgb or also underglow for the polycarb case?

As of right now per key rgb without underglow

[jollyeskimo]

USB-C?

[swiftrax]

USB-C?

Yes

[YMwoo]

forgot to ask this previously but any plan for VIA support?

I would love to do VIA support. I will try my best to make it happen.

That dark purple just tugged at my heart...I would be all in for that.

I would love to do Purple, Pink, and some other colors but I feel that for the first round, we should keep it simple. Although I'll be able to do one-off pantone colors for anyone who wants one eventually. The other nice thing about this project is that you can always take the files to a company to have it made for you because the files are open source. I think that's a great thing.

Nice, this looking better and better each day.

You mentioned "for the first round", does that mean you are planning to have this as several round or even in-stock kind of thing?

[2Moons]

forgot to ask this previously but any plan for VIA support?

I would love to do VIA support. I will try my best to make it happen.

That dark purple just tugged at my heart...I would be all in for that.

I would love to do Purple, Pink, and some other colors but I feel that for the first round, we should keep it simple. Although I'll be able to do one-off pantone colors for anyone who wants one eventually. The other nice thing about this project is that you can always take the files to a company to have it made for you because the files are open source. I think that's a great thing.

Nice, this looking better and better each day.

You mentioned "for the first round", does that mean you are planning to have this as several round or even in-stock kind of thing?

Yep, I definitely think multiple rounds would be a great idea. First with regular colors, then with different pantones. Also after the group buy, my goal is to do custom orders for anyone who wants a custom pantone color.

[sangeth]

Really pumped to see this happen.  Huge fan of the Gothic70 and would love a high end with the same layout.

[mathewC]

Probably has been asked already but what price range are we looking at?


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[sumbody]

Is there room for a design modification?
I feel the symmetry is quite off with the current layout, partially due to right side mod blockers being thinner.

The Arisu seems to have a better balance with the thicker right blocker.
https://github.com/FateNozomi/arisu-case

Maybe a top down render with keycaps so we can judge better?

Keep up the good work and can't wait to see this enter GB.

EDIT: After looking at it more, maybe its the chin? The chin is relatively smaller compared to even the traditional TGR Alice. The angled corner usually starts from the left/right blocker rather than the current design. Someone above pointed this flaw with the circled parts for reference

New renders looking great! Just another suggestion from myself, the chin on the front of the board feels slightly out of place because of the relative sharpness compared to the rounded aesthetic the corners, encoder and side cutouts. Maybe you could try :
1. rounding out the chin at these 3 points to match how the rest of the board looks (the quasi alice by qlavier is an example)
2. Making the corners and side cutouts sharper and less rounded to match the chin, thereby making the encoders stand out more!

Sorry if I seem overbearing haha just really excited for this board!

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[SMOKEY]

Love it! I'm in for a PC variant, if priced "ok-ish"

[swiftrax]

Is there room for a design modification?
I feel the symmetry is quite off with the current layout, partially due to right side mod blockers being thinner.

The Arisu seems to have a better balance with the thicker right blocker.
https://github.com/FateNozomi/arisu-case

Maybe a top down render with keycaps so we can judge better?

Keep up the good work and can't wait to see this enter GB.

EDIT: After looking at it more, maybe its the chin? The chin is relatively smaller compared to even the traditional TGR Alice. The angled corner usually starts from the left/right blocker rather than the current design. Someone above pointed this flaw with the circled parts for reference

New renders looking great! Just another suggestion from myself, the chin on the front of the board feels slightly out of place because of the relative sharpness compared to the rounded aesthetic the corners, encoder and side cutouts. Maybe you could try :
1. rounding out the chin at these 3 points to match how the rest of the board looks (the quasi alice by qlavier is an example)
2. Making the corners and side cutouts sharper and less rounded to match the chin, thereby making the encoders stand out more!

Sorry if I seem overbearing haha just really excited for this board!

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I didn't try to make it symmetric

[bukowski]

Is the plan for the knobs to be made by RAMA as well?