Author Topic: 104 US ANSI Double shot replacements for Filco Order (Read 295403 times)

Hak Foo · « **Reply #550 on:** Tue, 02 November 2010, 23:05:13 »

Quote from: WhiteRice;241875

Lol, sometimes I think that 90% of us think this.

Can someone explain the appeal of the Filco, especially the non-NKRO?

Why don't people buy (or at least when they could) a G80 instead, with keycaps that last? It seems no worse than a 2kro Filco.

Chobopants · « **Reply #551 on:** Tue, 02 November 2010, 23:40:50 »

Hey guys. Looks like I was just a couple weeks late to this. Is there going to be any policy on taking over unpaid orders at any point or doing another one in the future? This looks like a great set and I'd love to get my hands on one.

I just (re)discovered the world of mech keyboards today (and remembered my old model M) and my Filco is on the way.

Daniel Beaver · « **Reply #552 on:** Tue, 02 November 2010, 23:41:53 »

g80s are gigantic.

Filco tenkeyless are tiny.

Non-nkro Filco sounds stupid to me.

Hak Foo · « **Reply #553 on:** Tue, 02 November 2010, 23:58:06 »

Quote from: ripster;241930

The other slight technicality is G80-3000s are no longer available in the USA (except some blacks).

if the filco crowd had bought them, they might still carry 'em.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #554 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 00:35:21 »

Quote from: Chobopants;241926

Hey guys. Looks like I was just a couple weeks late to this. Is there going to be any policy on taking over unpaid orders at any point or doing another one in the future? This looks like a great set and I'd love to get my hands on one.

I just (re)discovered the world of mech keyboards today (and remembered my old model M) and my Filco is on the way.

There are apparently still 3 people who have yet to pay. I'd PM WhiteRice and see if those sets are available.

They may not (perhaps he's already worked out payment details with them and they will do it soon, perhaps he just forgot to update). At the same time the worst answer you can get is a no, so it doesn't hurt to ask.

Also, welcome to Geekhack!

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #555 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 04:23:16 »

Quote from: ripster;241834

But you don't have a Ducky keyboard to put them in yet?

My keyboard is delayed to December .... because i swapped from abs silkscreened dk-9008 to the pbt laser etched :/

Quote from: Hak Foo;241856

I disagree. Why do we care? Does Kuwait represent our values? (any Kuwaiti members.. don't answer ) Iraq vs. Kuwait is as relevant to American interests as the status of East Timor, but do we intervene there?

At least Hussein was a relatively secular madman.

The US were supplying Iraq with chemical weapons to use against Iran. Instead, Iraq saved up those chemical weapons and used it to subdue the local population (the kurds). That pissed off the Americans.

Iraqs incursion into Kuwait to take control of the oil was a good pretext for the Americans to get involved to assist an ally, and maybe to get back at Iraq.

If the US didn't care they wouldn't have invaded Iraq a 2nd time. Their intel on the WOMD they either knew it was fake but went on anyway, or they were incompetent. George Bush was the president then; and Tony Blair wasn't that much better, so probably the later :/

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I vote for public humiliation of these 3 deadbeats.

Finally something we can agree on. Why is payment delayed for weeks on end ? Did they even keep in contact with you what the delay is about ? If not just give away their slots. Many others are interested.

woody · « **Reply #556 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 06:29:17 »

Quote from: Hak Foo;241906

Can someone explain the appeal of the Filco ... Why don't people buy (or at least when they could) a G80 instead, with keycaps that last?

I couldn't find where to buy the flavour of G80-3000 that I wanted. Also, the manufacture quality of Filco is much better than Cherry. Last but not least - Filco has tenkeyless.

Cherry make nice switches, but their keyboard department has oddities.
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Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #557 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 06:46:44 »

Quote from: woody;242012

I couldn't find where to buy the flavour of G80-3000 that I wanted. Also, the manufacture quality of Filco is much better than Cherry. Last but not least - Filco has tenkeyless.

Cherry make nice switches, but their keyboard department has oddities.

Any of the G80-3000 have double shots with NKRO ?

Megaweapon · « **Reply #558 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 08:41:18 »

Quote from: Hak Foo;241906

Why don't people buy (or at least when they could) a G80 instead, with keycaps that last? It seems no worse than a 2kro Filco.

Maybe because the only g80's I've seen available in the wild were POS keyboards with credit card readers built into them. That might be fine for some people, but IMO (unless you're actually into magstrips) it crosses the geek/dork divide.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #559 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 10:57:04 »

Quote from: ripster;242053

Wow, Ducky won't ship until December?

Plenty of time to read the Geekhack Wikis.

Yeah December. I swapped slots with someone because Walrus got news Ducky Channel is selling the pbt version after all :X I ordered the palm rest + pbt keyboard bundle. The keys i will replace with double shots will be everything except the led lighted keys, and function keys :} I'll take some pictures and post here around December -.-;

Done all that reading on the wiki :/

Don't worry i just bought the latest Robert Jordan Towers of midnight novel to keep me occupied till then.

The problem is .... i'm already a third of the way finished through the book !!! Reading marathon :laser:

Quote from: Megaweapon;242052

Maybe because the only g80's I've seen available in the wild were POS keyboards with credit card readers built into them. That might be fine for some people, but IMO (unless you're actually into magstrips) it crosses the geek/dork divide.

I agree. Also doesn't it add to the cost for unnecessary features ??

MissileMike · « **Reply #560 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 12:17:04 »

Quote from: Hak Foo;241906

Can someone explain the appeal of the Filco, especially the non-NKRO?

Why don't people buy (or at least when they could) a G80 instead, with keycaps that last? It seems no worse than a 2kro Filco.

The filco is more sturdy, heavier, smaller, more attractive, and has its switches mounted on a plate instead of the pcb mount of the cherry.

You also can't get the g80-3000 very often here in the states.

MissileMike · « **Reply #561 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 12:25:55 »

Agree, if you like blues, it's the best bang/buck.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #562 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 16:57:01 »

phate408 · « **Reply #563 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 17:12:47 »

Quote from: WhiteRice;242262

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They're in Bellingham? :o I almost went to Bellingham for Halloween (One of my friends goes to school there.)

zefrer · « **Reply #564 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 17:17:15 »

Oh look what's this?

German layout, change keycaps if you want.

British · « **Reply #565 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 17:40:35 »

Quote from: zefrer;242269

Oh look what's this?

German layout, change keycaps if you want.

They'd be lost with that supernumerary key.
Too much things to take into account, their brains aren't wired for that, they'd melt (kind of buffer overflow, without the exploits).

zefrer · « **Reply #566 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 17:53:02 »

Oops deleted by accident XD

British · « **Reply #567 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 18:17:47 »

Quote from: zefrer;242283

Oops deleted by accident XD

Don't worry, my quote won't move.
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rantenki · « **Reply #568 on:** Wed, 03 November 2010, 18:20:21 »

Twenny Two pounds of KEYCAPS!?

/me is moved to tears.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #569 on:** Fri, 05 November 2010, 15:38:21 »

Quote from: rantenki;242290

Twenny Two pounds of KEYCAPS!?

/me is moved to tears.

*gets behind the truck and helps push :d

Please take some pictures for us once you get them :peep:

WhiteRice · « **Reply #570 on:** Fri, 05 November 2010, 15:41:05 »

Are you kidding? Of course I will! I'll be swimming in them like Scrooge McDuck.

2084 · « **Reply #571 on:** Fri, 05 November 2010, 17:34:58 »

I'd also love to take over any unpaid order if the persons not interested in the set anymore.
You can contact me anytime

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #572 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 17:50:24 »

Any updates :d ?

Lanx · « **Reply #573 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 18:20:31 »

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;243953

Any updates :d ?

Do you really want to receive keycaps before having a board you can use em on? heh, that would suck.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #574 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 18:32:02 »

Quote from: Moogle Stiltzkin;243953

Any updates :d ?

According to the tracking they are schedule to arrive Tuesday.

ironman31 · « **Reply #575 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 19:52:11 »

The sorting should be fun, lol.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #576 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 20:33:16 »

104 regular keys
2 diamond keys
1 1.75 control
1 capslock
1 geekhack keycap
(not including "surprise item" which may not be a keycap and the international boosters)

= 109 keycaps
* a minimum of 50 orders
= a minimum of 5,450 keys to sort though.

Although I'm guessing they're not going to be sadists and dump it in one bag. They'll just put all the A keys in one bag, all the space bars in another, et cetera.

That should only take a couple hours.

Sam · « **Reply #577 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 20:50:10 »

Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;244031

That should only take a couple hours.

Until you get to the end and find there's one extra 'M', and one missing 'R'. So need to go back through all of them to find where the mistake is.

nanu · « **Reply #578 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 21:05:53 »

Sorting them is an interesting problem. Lock the room, do 7 sets at once, going in layout order, repeating 7 times, and reserve the remains for the last guy to pay.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #579 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 21:06:08 »

Quote from: Sam;244045

Until you get to the end and find there's one extra 'M', and one missing 'R'. So need to go back through all of them to find where the mistake is.

I was going to make an "all those extra pieces" remark, but I thought it'd be in poor taste.

Simple solution: Print a scale 1x1 keyboard layout on paper (spanning multiple pages is OK) and then extras on the side.

Do one set at a time, then bag them/box them as you ensure each set is good.

Anyhow, as long as he uses some organized system (maybe marking the bags ONE or TWO - some keys come in pairs) and takes things slow but steady, he should be fine.

Again, there's no reason for Signature to be ****s. They didn't collate (extra $$$), and the only logical way to manufacture is to do one keycap (e.x. A, CTRL, ALT, etc.) at a time. Bag 'em by key.

50 sets? Quick to filter if you're reasonably careful.

nanu · « **Reply #580 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 21:15:06 »

On second thought, the first thing to do may be to take pictures, which includes populating a keyboard...

sixty · « **Reply #581 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 21:16:56 »

When the Korean guys got their orders a few were messed up too. Some people had double F2 and F3 keys or F1 instead of 1 and stuff like that. Mistakes are likely going to happen, everyone is human.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #582 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 21:22:35 »

Quote from: sixty;244057

When the Korean guys got their orders a few were messed up too. Some people had double F2 and F3 keys or F1 instead of 1 and stuff like that. Mistakes are likely going to happen, everyone is human.

I AM A KEY COLLATING MACHINE *BEEP* *BOOP*

lol

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #583 on:** Sun, 07 November 2010, 23:31:31 »

I have a crazy idea.

EDIT: Apparently not crazy, KBDMania did it first.

hoggy · « **Reply #584 on:** Mon, 08 November 2010, 00:39:16 »

Well if there are mistakes, I'm sure we can sort it out amongst ourselves.

Like trading stuff at school all over again...

sixty · « **Reply #585 on:** Mon, 08 November 2010, 03:18:57 »

Again, Koreans are ahead of us.
Copyright by Leaf@kbdmania:

┐(´～｀)┌ I dunno, lol

7bit · « **Reply #586 on:** Mon, 08 November 2010, 03:55:36 »

Quote from: muchadoaboutnothing;244052

I was going to make an "all those extra pieces" remark, but I thought it'd be in poor taste.

Simple solution: Print a scale 1x1 keyboard layout on paper (spanning multiple pages is OK) and then extras on the side.

Do one set at a time, then bag them/box them as you ensure each set is good.

...

Great idea!

@WhiteRice: you should print as many sheets as key-cap-sets with a serial number on them. After finishing one set, take a photo of it, then pack all caps into a plastic bag including the sheet. If you end up with 2 F-s and no E, you just have to look at the pictures to find the set where you placed those 2 E-s in.

You can also do the quality-check by emploing some OCR-software ...

woody · « **Reply #587 on:** Mon, 08 November 2010, 04:17:43 »

Poor Uncle Wang ...

Fwiffo · « **Reply #588 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 09:31:09 »

Today is the day! LOL OMG WTF BBQ!

WhiteRice · « **Reply #589 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 09:55:11 »

MissileMike · « **Reply #590 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 10:33:52 »

They'rrrrrrrrrre herrrrrrrreeeee!

Please set up your Canon Rebel ahead of time.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #591 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 10:39:56 »

Quote from: WhiteRice;244614

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:D

Please send my my keycaps first! :D

I shall now obliterate any chance I have of this by criticizing your use of JPG for a screenshot.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #592 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 10:56:32 »

Quote from: ripster;244623

Hahaha - the comic is of course in PNG.

Any fuzziness in the real keys you can blame on JPG.

Compression artifacts are always present in JPG, but in images that use a wide variety of colors, it isn't noticeable and is much more space efficient.

When screenshots are taken, it's generally a few colors. PNG usually not only wins on quality, but filesize too.

sixty · « **Reply #593 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 11:08:35 »

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WhiteRice · « **Reply #594 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 11:18:54 »

You just gave me a good idea. Do you think there is enough room in a small flat rate USPS box to do that?

Daniel Beaver · « **Reply #595 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 11:26:44 »

I'm heading out to the hardware store to buy double-stick carpet tape immediately. Last time I took off my Filco Otaku keys, it was hell to figure out how to put them back on.

muchadoaboutnothing · « **Reply #596 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 11:50:13 »

Quote from: Daniel Beaver;244637

I'm heading out to the hardware store to buy double-stick carpet tape immediately. Last time I took off my Filco Otaku keys, it was hell to figure out how to put them back on.

They are labeled with the row number underneath...

I won't deny that I made a mistake last time I popped my Filco Otaku keys off though. Great idea rip.

WhiteRice · « **Reply #597 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 13:53:19 »

Hay guys I heard you liek keycapz

Lanx · « **Reply #598 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 13:59:08 »

Quote from: ripster;244643

I'm going to post a "Cherry MX Key Removal Guide" in the mods section too so nobody breaks their stabilizers/keys.

Sometimes I worry about you guys......

I removed all the cherry keys on my g80 (that i'm using to mod right now) all with the help of
a butter knife
a philips flat head

pretty sure i removed all the keys in under 2mins.

just pay attention to the larger keys is all. I think it's also pretty hard to break a cherry stabilizer, if anything ppl just "pop" em out w/o knowing it.

Pylon · « **Reply #599 on:** Tue, 09 November 2010, 14:01:52 »

Quote from: ripster;244623

Hahaha - the comic is of course in PNG.

Any fuzziness in the real keys you can blame on JPG.
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The smaller lettering looks an awful bit like Comic Sans...must be that JPEG stuff...

Quote from: sixty;244630

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Author Topic: 104 US ANSI Double shot replacements for Filco Order (Read 295403 times)

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