Author Topic: Double shot replacements ROUND THREE: Vote for Kits & Quantities! (Read 1068463 times)

Culinia · « **Reply #600 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 08:49:17 »

Quote from: winniez;288200

Anybody knows do the alternative layout kits have nubbed keys? In a Dvorak's case U and H.

Yes:

Quote from: 7bit;286508

Both versions (nubbed and un-nubbed) are included.

I just did not update the graphic.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #601 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 10:54:42 »

Any chance for the dvorak kit that the ";" key be aligned left like White rice's. That would just be perfect for me

Not for everyone else, just only me since i'm using white rice's set

7bit · « **Reply #602 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 11:59:51 »

Quote from: winniez;288200

Anybody knows do the alternative layout kits have nubbed keys? In a Dvorak's case U and H.

All keys at the usual F and J-positions come in both versions.

Ekaros · « **Reply #603 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 12:07:10 »

Quote from: 7bit;288337

All keys at the usual F and J-positions come in both versions.

Why do I get these useless ideas...

Still, anyone think gamer kit with numbed J included might be cool? So in low light you could have two colored keys for easier naviagtion on keyboard...

Just wondering, don't care about me...

7bit · « **Reply #604 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 14:42:57 »

Quote from: Ekaros;288342

Why do I get these useless ideas...

Still, anyone think gamer kit with numbed J included might be cool? So in low light you could have two colored keys for easier naviagtion on keyboard...

Just wondering, don't care about me...

And the next one wants HJKL or IJKL.

I really have to get that invoice script ready, to stop all this!!!

BTW: Which version of Escape-button do you all whish?

bugfix · « **Reply #605 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 14:43:48 »

Quote from: 7bit;288436

I really have to get that invoice script ready, to stop all this!!!

Yes, please ;-)

Ekaros · « **Reply #606 on:** Tue, 01 February 2011, 14:55:39 »

Quote from: 7bit;288436

And the next one wants HJKL or IJKL.

I really have to get that invoice script ready, to stop all this!!!

BTW: Which version of Escape-button do you all whish?

Or we need to learn to shut-up

morcles · « **Reply #607 on:** Wed, 02 February 2011, 16:09:14 »

I was creating images of my wanna-have-layouts with the new keycaps, just to make sure I don't forget to pre-order any keycap

)
At some zoomlevel I read META on a key in the standard-layout, where I expected MENU. Did not pay attention to this before.

A "default" 104/105 keyboard is supposed to have 2 OS keys and 1 menu key.
Both SUPER and META are OS keys (or am I mistaken?).
Does the round-3 standard-layout have 3 OS keys and no menu key? I think so.

Guess it would make sense to add a MENU key to the standard-layouts and move the META key to the MODIFIER set for SUN layout people (they need 2xMETA+COMPOSE).

The MODIFIER set is also suitable for an Apple layout (need 2xCOMMAND+2xOPTION).

Windows layout is also a bit difficult, because there is only 1xWINDOWS included, maybe we should put in a second WINDOWS key too? Or maybe we can skip all WINDOWS keys?

Any thoughts on this?
Thanks.

002 · « **Reply #608 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 02:10:55 »

Quote from: 7bit;288436

I really have to get that invoice script ready

Yep.

My poor Filco is sitting in storage right now waiting for you. It's been out of action since I ruined my keycaps with isopropyl alcohol so I'm itching for some clicky goodness my man.

7bit · « **Reply #609 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 03:14:01 »

Quote from: morcles;288968

I was creating images of my wanna-have-layouts with the new keycaps, just to make sure I don't forget to pre-order any keycap )
At some zoomlevel I read META on a key in the standard-layout, where I expected MENU. Did not pay attention to this before.

A "default" 104/105 keyboard is supposed to have 2 OS keys and 1 menu key.
Both SUPER and META are OS keys (or am I mistaken?).
Does the round-3 standard-layout have 3 OS keys and no menu key? I think so.

The Meta key is from the Symbolics culture, the 2 diamond keys from the Sun culture are Super. I think with OS-keys you mean the Windows keys, right?

Quote from: morcles;288968

Guess it would make sense to add a MENU key to the standard-layouts and move the META key to the MODIFIER set for SUN layout people (they need 2xMETA+COMPOSE).

Currently, there is no MENU key at all.

Sun layout is: Caps Lock, Alt, Super (diamond) and Super, Compose, Alt Graph.

Quote from: morcles;288968

The MODIFIER set is also suitable for an Apple layout (need 2xCOMMAND+2xOPTION).

Windows layout is also a bit difficult, because there is only 1xWINDOWS included, maybe we should put in a second WINDOWS key too? Or maybe we can skip all WINDOWS keys?

Any thoughts on this?
Thanks.

If you take 2 of the Modifer kits, I will add another WINDOWS key and the MENU key!

Quote from: 002;289188

Yep.

My poor Filco is sitting in storage right now waiting for you. It's been out of action since I ruined my keycaps with isopropyl alcohol so I'm itching for some clicky goodness my man.

I do what I can!

[10% done###=========================================================]

Please be patient ...

Half-Saint · « **Reply #610 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 03:22:47 »

No worries. Your work is much appreciated

morcles · « **Reply #611 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 04:30:27 »

Quote from: 7bit;289193

The Meta key is from the Symbolics culture,

Yes, and just like HYPER and SUPER they come in pairs. One on the left and one on the right.

Quote from: 7bit;289193

the 2 diamond keys from the Sun culture are Super.

No, SUN diamond is META.

Quote from: 7bit;289193

I think with OS-keys you mean the Windows keys, right?

More in general really, I mean
COMMAND on Apple
META on SUN
WINDOWS on M$
SUPER on X

There is no MENU key or equivalent on Apple or SUN.
On M$ there is a MENU key (they invented it) and X uses it by default too (xev showed me).

So I think the vast majority of us actually "need" a MENU key.
And IMHO having only one META key doesn't do any justice to the great great Space-Cadet.

Quote from: 7bit;289193

Currently, there is no MENU key at all.

Indeed. But love to see it in the standard-layouts ...

Quote from: 7bit;289193

Sun layout is: Caps Lock, Alt, Super (diamond) and Super, Compose, Alt Graph.

My SUN type 5/5c/6 kbds all have: control, alt, meta, meta, compose, alt graph.
I'm typing on a type 6 now.

Quote from: 7bit;289193

If you take 2 of the Modifer kits, I will add another WINDOWS key and the MENU key!

No no no, no windows(key) for me ! That's definitely NOT what I'm after.
The MENU key however ...
Too bad I'd have to take a MODIFIER set for it, makes it a rather expensive key.

Please (re)consider
META > MENU in STANDARD
and
WINDOWS > META in MODIFIER

Quote from: 7bit;289193

Please be patient ...

No hurry --- thanks for all you do to make this possible

7bit · « **Reply #612 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 06:14:37 »

Quote from: morcles;289206

No, SUN diamond is META.

Sorry for getting this wrong!

I always thought it was Super because the Windows key is mapped to Super in X11 by default and Meta and Alt are both on the Alt-keys.

7bit_vote · « **Reply #613 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 07:44:38 »

From left to right:
Escape-Runner, Escape-Girl, Escape-Exit[1].

Please tell me, which you would like to have!

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[1] This is the escapee which is usually found at escape-exit signs.

Half-Saint · « **Reply #614 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 07:54:37 »

Suddenly I don't like any of them!

One on the left is fat, the one in the middle is not very convincing and the one on the right is too retro..

verbel · « **Reply #615 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 07:57:22 »

I like the third one.

7bit_vote · « **Reply #616 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 09:33:16 »

To send out the invoices, it would be very helpful if you could send my your e-mail-addresses.

You will not receive spam mails from me[1].

Just send me, 7bit_vote a message with the content:

EMAIL your_email@address.xxx

Thank you!

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[1] I will sell the addresses to spammers instead.

keyboardlover · « **Reply #617 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 09:35:42 »

Hey all,

I know this group buy is expensive enough, but if anyone is interested in possibly replacing their bottom row with gray, vintage-looking doubleshots, check out the other group buy here. We only need 9 more sets bought to get this thing moving =)

DaemonRaccoon · « **Reply #618 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 12:29:56 »

As to the escape key, the first one is my preference,
but the third would be okay as well.

My keyboard just arrived, it's so cool. (in both senses of the word.:tongue1:)

morcles · « **Reply #619 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 15:30:54 »

Hi 7bit,
Just learned something ... better late than never :doh:
and now I'm with you regarding the META key.
Sorry about the noise.

duq · « **Reply #620 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 17:00:02 »

I didn't recieve an invoice as of yet, were they sent already?

7bit · « **Reply #621 on:** Thu, 03 February 2011, 17:38:28 »

Quote from: dareuhl;289483

I didn't recieve an invoice as of yet, were they sent already?

No, not yet.

The point is, if I have an e-mail address, I just can run a scvript which sends them off. Otherwise I had to send messages through this website manually, one per minute, which takes an hour.

Pear · « **Reply #622 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 09:55:34 »

Has anybody tried this with a Das keyboard?

WaffleIron · « **Reply #623 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 11:01:12 »

Quote from: 7bit;289505

No, not yet.

The point is, if I have an e-mail address, I just can run a scvript which sends them off. Otherwise I had to send messages through this website manually, one per minute, which takes an hour.

Do we who already receive updates on mail regarding the group buy send in our e-mail adress again?

Escape key: The third escape key looks best to me, but I think this guy with briefcase looks even better:

morcles · « **Reply #624 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 11:04:45 »

Quote from: 7bit;289193

If you take 2 of the Modifer kits, I will add another WINDOWS key and the MENU key!

Is that offer of you still valid?

7bit · « **Reply #625 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 11:57:35 »

Quote from: WaffleIron;289755

Do we who already receive updates on mail regarding the group buy send in our e-mail adress again?

No. I hope there will be more sending their address, so I can send the invoices automatically.

Quote from: WaffleIron;289755

Escape key: The third escape key looks best to me, but I think this guy with briefcase looks even better:

Show Image

Maybe we could put a cord to it. Then it looks like a keyboard.

Quote from: Pear;289731

Has anybody tried this with a Das keyboard?

Should fit a Das. Just rub the keys until they become shiny, so they match the keybaord case.

Quote from: morcles;289758

Is that offer of you still valid?

YES!

morcles · « **Reply #626 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 13:29:08 »

Quote from: 7bit;289780

YES!

Thanks man !

7bit · « **Reply #627 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 14:04:40 »

Quote from: morcles;289834

Thanks man !

No problem!

2x WINDOWS and 1x MENU are part of the modifier kit now.

WaffleIron · « **Reply #628 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 16:04:27 »

how about this:

7bit · « **Reply #629 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 16:23:38 »

Quote from: WaffleIron;289933

how about this:
Show Image

Great, but what about the cable being off-center and with a plug (a thick end) to make it more obvious, it's a keybaord?

Think of a big DIN-connector.

Minskleip · « **Reply #630 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 17:22:02 »

Bomb or briefcase.

WaffleIron · « **Reply #631 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 17:32:24 »

7bit · « **Reply #632 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 17:35:33 »

Quote from: WaffleIron;289991

Show Image

?

Now it looks like a big cigar!

Also, I think the keyboard has got too much detail.

It is a bit too small, BTW.

WaffleIron · « **Reply #633 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 17:42:19 »

off to bed for now.

Ekaros · « **Reply #634 on:** Fri, 04 February 2011, 18:47:16 »

Quote from: WaffleIron;290000

Show Image

off to bed for now.

I'm almost tempted to get this one...

7bit · « **Reply #635 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 04:44:06 »

Quote from: Ekaros;290034

I'm almost tempted to get this one...

With text, or without text?

If we leave away ESCAPE, then it could be bigger and details become more visible.

Ekaros · « **Reply #636 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 04:53:51 »

Quote from: 7bit;290199

With text, or without text?

If we leave away ESCAPE, then it could be bigger and details become more visible.

Show Image

Anywhere the to scale version of with text?

7bit · « **Reply #637 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 05:15:04 »

Quote from: Ekaros;290200

Anywhere the to scale version of with text?

Bugfix? ----- Bugfix!!!

Just wait, he will come and make an SVG-file out of it.

bugfix · « **Reply #638 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 13:31:31 »

7bit · « **Reply #639 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 14:09:20 »

Quote from: bugfix;290385

Sup.

Perfect:

This is how it looks like on a key cap:

PS: Thanks a lot!!!

bugfix · « **Reply #640 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 14:14:55 »

No problem. I actually cleared my order because I wanted to sell my DAS, but now I'm getting second thoughts about it.

I know this has been asked, but just to be sure:

The standard kit will fit the DAS right? Including the spacebar?

7bit_vote · « **Reply #641 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 15:31:35 »

I updated the pricelist. Some kits did not meet the quantities I expected, so I set the prices according to the lower quantities. If there is more demand in these kits, prices will get down again!

I skipped the following kits because of lack of support:

Standard kit ................ $73 / 15 (STANDARDBLACK) // 1 vote is too few!
Black Mod kit (orange text).. $42 / 15 (BLACKMOD) // 3 votes are too few!
Black Alnum kit (orange text) $28 / 15 (BLACKALNUM) // 3 votes are too few!

If there will be another round in 2012, I will include these.

Moreover, I reorganized some things:
There is no space bar included in the Standard kit. If you don't include one to your order, I will add a grey space bar for Filco/Ducky/new Cherry G80-3000 (SPACEGREY).

I threw out those J-shape-blank-return kits (JRETcolor) which where a bit redundant as there exist the more useful colorBLACKRET kits which contain both the J-shape return and a 1.25 units wide Shift key.

Finally, as the majority wanted the blue stuff to be in light blue, I need someone who has got something light-bluish from SP (the color sample chain would be great!) to choose the exact color!

StiMPy · « **Reply #642 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 16:04:31 »

Quote from: 7bit;290405

Perfect:
Show Image

This is how it looks like on a key cap:
Show Image

PS: Thanks a lot!!!

I really like that way more than the other 3.

bugfix · « **Reply #643 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 16:05:39 »

Quote from: StiMPy;290449

I really like that way more than the other 3.

Yeah me too.

ynih · « **Reply #644 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 19:26:02 »

I just got my invoice, can I re-submit to 7bit_vote to get an update invoice?

JinDesu · « **Reply #645 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 19:51:10 »

Got my invoice, how do I confirm, etc?

And I love on Mars, right next to Mt. Olympus, so if you can include the shipping cost to there as well

Soarer · « **Reply #646 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 20:15:01 »

Test invoice... Eeek!

hfcobra · « **Reply #647 on:** Sat, 05 February 2011, 21:55:16 »

got mine too, price was not too bad and i am going to be so happy when these finally get here!

Culinia · « **Reply #648 on:** Sun, 06 February 2011, 03:21:46 »

Quote from: 7bit_vote;290442

If there will be another round in 2012, I will include these.

Sure thing, I can imagine me (provided colemak/uk kit in black also) getting another set of these.

Quote

There is no space bar included in the Standard kit. If you don't include one to your order, I will add a grey space bar for Filco/Ducky/new Cherry G80-3000 (SPACEGREY).

Sorry, I am not sure - does that mean the only thing changed is that we are paying separately on the spacebar and have an option to change the colour but the one you have included follows the same colour scheme as before (round 1)?

Lastly, just like to say that received your test invoice so thanks for organizing this and allowing the opportunity to get some fine doubleshot keycaps. Thanks again.

Naku · « **Reply #649 on:** Sun, 06 February 2011, 03:41:20 »

No spacebar in standard kit? I was going to get both grey and black spacebar, so I have to vote SPACEBLACK 1 and SPACEGREY 1 right? WASD with arrows now in ORANGE kit right? Red esc comes with that design that is on post #679? Cant keep up, as this list chages all the time :|

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