Adopt a Keycap Legend with Cherry Replica Font! (Cherry font, not some other font)

[mickd]

How do you guys pay SP? Via PayPal as well?

[Quarzac]

I don't have any checks. I have a checking account, but no checks. I also don't really have $45 I feel comfortable spending, but we'll worry about that later.

[shawn o]

Actually, if you accept even $1 via Paypal and transfer that to your bank account you are supposed to claim it on your taxes, state and federal.

If you ever get audited and they ask for bank records and see Paypal anywhere (withdrawl or deposit), it will have the IRS looking for blood...

[shawn o]

Oh and those w/o checks: anyone can go to the post office and get a money order so there are no excuses.

[The_Ed]

Oh I'll make excuses... I'm too lazy to get off my ass and go to the post office, and it's always closed anyways.

So there...

[litster]

Oh I'll make excuses... I'm too lazy to get off my ass and go to the post office, and it's always closed anyways.

So there...

One more reason for you is you are not on the adoption parent list.  So there. :-)

[The_Ed]

I have 4 full 104 -1 flatcaps. I don't need replicas.

Oh and F24!

[hazeluff]

Just about any form of payment will have to answer to the IRS if it goes over 20k.

Only way around this would be multiple collectors.

Even then, it would mean those people collecting are quite limited to the other GBs they run throughout the year.

[snowboarder3]

Yeah, not sure I can do 45 either. I signed up under the impression it would be 10-20. I could still foot 20 but probably not full price for the legend.

[The_Ed]

And another one gone and another one gone
Another one bites the dust, yeah

[hazeluff]

We kinda expected people to drop out because of this. We should be able to pick it up tho.

[The_Ed]

Remember that if you do F13-F24 I will sponsor F24.

[hashbaz]

Just about any form of payment will have to answer to the IRS if it goes over 20k.

Only way around this would be multiple collectors.

Yes.  This isn't really Paypal's policy per se, it's a new law or IRS policy or something that Paypal is complying with.  Other online payment systems will have the same issues.

How do you guys pay SP? Via PayPal as well?

Yep.  Though I think they can do credit card as well.

Actually, if you accept even $1 via Paypal and transfer that to your bank account you are supposed to claim it on your taxes, state and federal.

If you ever get audited and they ask for bank records and see Paypal anywhere (withdrawl or deposit), it will have the IRS looking for blood...

This is true for non-gift Paypal payments.  And Paypal will slap you down if you accept too many gifts in return for what is obviously merchandise.  I fear mkawa is right about setting up an LLC or something so that the large flood of prepayments don't look like actual income to the IRS.  As large as group buys are getting lately, this has become a big deal.

Remember that if you do F13-F24 I will sponsor F24.

/slap

[The_Ed]

You forgot about this question...

Why does the capslock in the OP not look like cherry or moogle?

[hazeluff]

You forgot about this question...

Cherry boards have stepped caps that say:

Caps
Lock

I never had a reference for this key... so I just made it like it is in the OP.

[The_Ed]

Use this. It's one of my 3 vintage cherry un-stepped capslocks.

[hazeluff]

Use this. It's one of my 3 vintage cherry un-stepped capslocks.

Show Image

Ah sweet, Its just the spacing. = ) Yeah, I'll have that fixed. (don't expect updated image)

[rindorbrot]

45$ for a key that will probably never happen anyway as it's from the German layout?
I'm sorry guys, I think that I have to bail, too.
Also I don't have any idea how to send checks to the USA.

[cactux]

Silly question but, once you guys please an order with SP, is SP allow to reuse these SVG files for there own future deals or they are some how copyright?

[The_Ed]

So you're saying "German layout" == "F13-F24" when it comes to groupbuys?

[rindorbrot]

@The_Ed

I was meaning the Ü, nothing with function keys

[zirb]

I've never payed anything per personal check, wouldn't that be a problem for international dudes like me?

Damn paypal

[Game Theory]

I can handle the $45 thought it hurts a bit:)  A personal check works for me.  Maybe offer multiple payment options.  Ask US to use personal check/money order.  Find an easier option for internationals.

I also believe it is correct that any transaction over 20k gets reported.

Years from now when I am trusted more I might be willing to be the guy who has more complicated taxes.

[Zehkul]

I’m on the fence here, too. So many nice things have popped up since, and I’m not sure about the 45$…

[mbc]

What about this
we start a group buy with this font and share the fees between the adopters and the gb participants.
if we'd get 150+ orders the legend fees wont hurt at all...

[jdcarpe]

What about this
we start a group buy with this font and share the fees between the adopters and the gb participants.
if we'd get 150+ orders the legend fees wont hurt at all...

Maybe it could start with a Cherry black on white replica set. Those seem to be very popular and in demand.

[rindorbrot]

AFAIK there's a Dolch GB planned to use this legends first.

[litster]

Ah sweet, Its just the spacing. = ) Yeah, I'll have that fixed. (don't expect updated image)

Hazeluff, for a Cherry replica set of keycaps, the capslock should be stepped, not non-stepped. It is OK to do the one-line non-stepped version *after* the 2-line stopped version.  Thanks.

[litster]

What about this
we start a group buy with this font and share the fees between the adopters and the gb participants.
if we'd get 150+ orders the legend fees wont hurt at all...

Maybe it could start with a Cherry black on white replica set. Those seem to be very popular and in demand.

This will make the GB a little bit more complicated, but it is worth a try.  If we could lower the adoption fees and spread the remaining legend fees across each set ordered in the group buy.  Will have to get Hazeluff and Hashbaz's opinion.  Money collection remain to be the biggest issue.

Wonder if iMav would help use collect money since he has had quite a few big ones done already (many keyboard group buys, 7bit's Round 3 key cap group buy).

[mbc]

Can't you just get some sort of (business) license and tax the income. I ask because I don't know how much work it would be, but might be worth a try.. better than having to fight of the IRS when they check your pp.

[guilleguillaume]

For me 45$ seems quite step having in mind that I'm going to adopt two of them. I think the idea of the GB makes sense so if people agree we could try to do it that way.

Also I don't know a different way to pay international without Paypal.

[mbc]

And if we get kbdmania and odt to join in....:beer:

[agor]

Yeah I think a Dolch GB with split fees could get enough interest.

[The_Ed]

@The_Ed

I was meaning the Ü, nothing with function keys

I meant that neither were likely going to be in a future GB. Thus they were == each other when it comes to GBs.

[rindorbrot]

ok, that makes sense, too.

[mkawa]

to cut the legend fees in half we'd need something like a 15$ fee on 150 sets. that would give us something like a 60$ set price before shipping at SP's recent pricing. it's definitely non-negligible. it's not clear to me that this solves much of anything though as presumably every donator would be in for at least 1 set...

[sth]

Jeez... I can do $90 but I'm not looking forward to it. If anybody wants to adopt either pg up or pg down I won't complain.

[guilleguillaume]

I'm sorry to drop out but right now I can't spend that amount of money in adopting legends. Unexpected expenses appeared and I'm part of too many GB for now :smash:

Each legend for 45$ is too much. In the future if I take part of any GB using this legends would gladly add some money as compensation if needed.

[Autolyze]

I'm cool with personal checks. I still haven't linked my paypal account to my bank account since I'm paranoid about giving paypal that kind of control. Eventually I think I'm going to set up a separate bank account for use with paypal, but right now I'm trying to stretch that $5k paypal limit out as long as possible.

[Jophess]

I'm going to have to drop out of this as well. $45 for a squiggle (~) and a tiny line (`) is honestly ridiculous. Sorry.

[shawn o]

Sounds like this is quickly falling apart. :frusty:

[Autolyze]

Whoa, I think it was safe to say that from the start this was going to lean more towards the high side of that "$10 to $40 per keycap" figure. I should be up for picking up another legend now that we've got some people bailing out.

[hashbaz]

Legendary Inflation here.  Melissa should see Fed Interest Rates.

To be clear, the $10 per legend thing was always just a rumor that needed confirming, and we were explicit about that from the get-go.  I asked Melissa if they had ever done legend cutting at a volume discount and she said no, not ever, not for anyone.

I'm going to have to drop out of this as well. $45 for a squiggle (~) and a tiny line (`) is honestly ridiculous. Sorry.

Custom is never cheap.

[The_Ed]

Custom is never cheap.

Unless you do it yourself... It's dremel time! Make a jig!

[snowboarder3]

Yeah, I already mentioned this but I can't cover full price either, sorry :/.

At the beginning of this, the rumor was $10-20 for alpha keys and probably more for other keys so I grabbed one of what I figured would be the cheaper keys. I can still help with this, but only could cover half of a legend, sorry everyone.

tl;dr 4 back up for adoption. I got $20 on it.

[mkawa]

snowboarder3, can you put that 20 toward one of my legends? that would help me out quite a bit

[snowboarder3]

yeah

[captain]

4 is now an orphan  :~4

[dorkvader]

snowboarder3, can you put that 20 toward one of my legends? that would help me out quite a bit

yeah

This is an excellent idea. It seems that many people are willing to pay ~20 for legends, but maybe $45 is a little much for some. Is there a good way to "split" credit for a key? Every bit helps. Cooperatively paying for a key legend is a good idea, I preceive.

[mkawa]

now that we know the total cost, we could reduce the thing to a single dollar amount and have people pledge money instead of legends