Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[CPTBadAss]

what the difference CCnG ducky & tsangan?

What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.

The colors ,i see ducky looks nice
green&white look difference

You're asking if the Ducky Green and White caps are different from the CCnG set that was done by SP? Can you please restate what your question is?

[BlueBär]

What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.

The colors ,i see ducky looks nice
green&white look difference

I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:



He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

The main difference is the manufacturer and the method to print the legends, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar) and is dyesubbed PBT, the original was made by Signature Plastics and is doubleshot ABS. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

[nubbinator]

What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.

The colors ,i see ducky looks nice
green&white look difference

I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

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He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

The main difference is the manufacturer, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar), the original was made by Signature Plastics. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

Ducky's is supposed to be dyesub PBT, so it shouldn't be Tai Hao as the OEM.

[BlueBär]

Ducky's is supposed to be dyesub PBT, so it shouldn't be Tai Hao as the OEM.

Yep, already edited my post, but maybe Tai Hao does dyseub as well? Idk.

[SpAmRaY]

Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

Pretty sure he just wants to make the existing LED hole bigger....top and bottom.....

[CPTBadAss]

What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.

The colors ,i see ducky looks nice
green&white look difference

I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

Show Image

He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

The main difference is the manufacturer and the method to print the legends, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar) and is dyesubbed PBT, the original was made by Signature Plastics and is doubleshot ABS. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

Just to support BlueBar's post:


CCnG Set


Ducky's White and Green

Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

Pretty sure he just wants to make the existing LED hole bigger; top and bottom.

Well let's see what Melvang says. I'm not exactly sure what he's referring to.

[yasuo]

which ducky green & white colors?

[riotonthebay]

which ducky green & white colors?

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You can't really tell since Ducky isn't using SP colors. Do you want a guess?

[CPTBadAss]

which ducky green & white colors?

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Those are SP ABS color chips. The Ducky caps are PBT and probably not from SP. So it's hard to say for sure.

[yasuo]

You can't really tell since Ducky isn't using SP colors. Do you want a guess?

yep,almost like ducky

Those are SP ABS color chips. The Ducky caps are PBT and probably not from SP. So it's hard to say for sure.

that's pbt though abs SP have many variations colors than pbt

[CPTBadAss]

Those are SP ABS color chips. The Ducky caps are PBT and probably not from SP. So it's hard to say for sure.

that's pbt though abs SP have many variations colors than pbt

Ah I missed that.

You can't really tell since Ducky isn't using SP colors. Do you want a guess?

yep,almost like ducky

Closest Color Guess:

Green = VCR
White = WDG

[qrthur]

Hello,

I'm new here so if I'm doing it wrong, let me know.

I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard. So far I have two in mind : WASDKeyboard V2 TKL or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL. From what I've read, they are both good keyboards. But I still need to choose one.

Pricewise, the filco will cost me 130€, and the WASD will be around 150€. (It includes delivery prices, which is 45$ for the WASD). So let's put aside price now. Which one is better in your opinion ? Lifespan, materials, or little details that will make one better than the other.

For example, I know that filco keycaps is ABS, while the WASD uses PBT. So it is in the favour of the WASD. Is there other details like this one to know ?

Thanks

[swill]

Hello,

I'm new here so if I'm doing it wrong, let me know.

I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard. So far I have two in mind : WASDKeyboard V2 TKL or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL. From what I've read, they are both good keyboards. But I still need to choose one.

Pricewise, the filco will cost me 130€, and the WASD will be around 150€. (It includes delivery prices, which is 45$ for the WASD). So let's put aside price now. Which one is better in your opinion ? Lifespan, materials, or little details that will make one better than the other.

For example, I know that filco keycaps is ABS, while the WASD uses PBT. So it is in the favour of the WASD. Is there other details like this one to know ?

Thanks

Hard to beat Filcos build quality.  I don't know the quality of the WASD.

[riotonthebay]

I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

[Melvang]

What is the difference between a keycap set, a keyboard brand, and a keycap adapter kit? I'm not understanding your question.

The colors ,i see ducky looks nice
green&white look difference

I think I know what you mean. Ducky has made a keycap set similar to CCnG:

Show Image

He wants to know the differences to the original GB that was run by Tsangan.

The main difference is the manufacturer and the method to print the legends, Ducky's could be Tai Hao (that * looks familiar) and is dyesubbed PBT, the original was made by Signature Plastics and is doubleshot ABS. Also Ducky's CCnG has black legends while the original uses green and beige (cream-cheese) legends. Also I think Ducky uses plain white while CCnG uses an off-white/beige/cream-cheese color.

Just to support BlueBar's post:

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CCnG Set

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Ducky's White and Green

Question 2. Would it negatively impact the intended use of an MX switch if the LED socket was drilled out in the top and bottom half of the switch?

If you drill out the top half, wouldn't you be drilling into the leaf spring? The switch needs the leaf spring to work.

The leaf spring is on the opposite side as the LED hole...

Isn't that what he's asking? To drill out the casing on the opposite side of the LED hole?

Pretty sure he just wants to make the existing LED hole bigger; top and bottom.

Well let's see what Melvang says. I'm not exactly sure what he's referring to.

I was wondering about drilling the led hole out bigger but going through the bottom half of the switch housing as well as the top half.  Was thinking of trying 5x5x2 rgb LEDs.  The question about the bottom half is for an idea of doing individual PCBs for each switch and doing a hand wired matrix for the switches and the LEDs with knobs on the case for adjusting the color manually.  Drilling the bottom half of the switch might be required depending on how it goes.

[BlueBär]

I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

Yes, WASD uses ABS.

[swill]

I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

Even if they do, if they are thin pbt, it's not a big upgrade.  You can buy medium thickness pbt caps from banggood for $20 shipped which are alright.

[CPTBadAss]

Hello,

I'm new here so if I'm doing it wrong, let me know.

I want to buy my first mechanical keyboard. So far I have two in mind : WASDKeyboard V2 TKL or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL. From what I've read, they are both good keyboards. But I still need to choose one.

Pricewise, the filco will cost me 130€, and the WASD will be around 150€. (It includes delivery prices, which is 45$ for the WASD). So let's put aside price now. Which one is better in your opinion ? Lifespan, materials, or little details that will make one better than the other.

For example, I know that filco keycaps is ABS, while the WASD uses PBT. So it is in the favour of the WASD. Is there other details like this one to know ?

Thanks

I'm a Filco fanboy, I own a Filco MJ2 Ninja 104. It's my daily driver at work and I've had it for about a year. I don't think I'll ever replace it/sell it. I think it's the best stock keyboard I've tried. Good case, good construction, and the switches feel nice in them. Filco is just a solid keyboard. I've heard that people who have had Browns on their Filcos didn't like them though.

I've never owned a WASD but The_Beast was quite happy with his when I talked to him about it. WASD has a dipswitch that lets you have other layouts

I didn't think that WASD used PBT. Could someone else confirm/deny?

Pretty sure WASD uses ABS. I've tried their sampler pack and it was really thin ABS. Not my favorite stock caps if those sampler kit caps are what goes on their keyboards. I do like the stock Filco caps. They're not *terrible*.

I was wondering about drilling the led hole out bigger but going through the bottom half of the switch housing as well as the top half.  Was thinking of trying 5x5x2 rgb LEDs.  The question about the bottom half is for an idea of doing individual PCBs for each switch and doing a hand wired matrix for the switches and the LEDs with knobs on the case for adjusting the color manually.  Drilling the bottom half of the switch might be required depending on how it goes.

I don't think making the LED hole bigger will affect the switch operation.

[qrthur]

Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

[damorgue]

Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

no

3mm round rgb?

Yes

They are very rare though. I have only found them in handful of places and with MOQ of many thousand pcs unfortunately: Example

Edit: Also, they are cumbersome to use because of their pitch (distance between pins). They require very small pads around the holes and tight soldering.

[CPTBadAss]

Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

Different switches feel different in different keyboards. Apparently the construction on the Filco leads them to not feel well on the Filcos. I hate Browns in general so I can't comment on how they'd feel. I've never owned a keyboard with Browns. Missalaire sold her Filco saying they Browns felt odd on the Filco. So yes, it's just what friends have told me. I have Blues on mine.

[jdcarpe]

Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

Filco with Browns is a fine choice! Don't let anyone tell you differently. I own several Filcos!!

[kmiller8]

Is it possible to get 2x3x4 RGB LEDs?

no

3mm round rgb?

Yes

They are very rare though. I have only found them in handful of places and with MOQ of many thousand pcs unfortunately: Example

Edit: Also, they are cumbersome to use because of their pitch (distance between pins). They require very small pads around the holes and tight soldering.

Let me clarify then

No*

*Nothing available for your or I to buy from our local friendly digikey/mouser/newark

I have looked into those before, and the few companies I contacted which had that exact image said "oh no, we don't make those"

[swill]

Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

Nothing wrong with them.  They are the same as all other browns (switch wise), but they are apparently soldered better than most PCBs.  I use a Filco TKL with Browns as my daily driver.  Great board...

The only thing that is wrong with Filco w/ browns is that they have been very hard to find recently.  There have been a few threads on here asking "when will a filco tkl with browns be in stock" because there is limited availability in the US recently and they are sold out everywhere...

[Melvang]

Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

Different switches feel different in different keyboards. Apparently the construction on the Filco leads them to not feel well on the Filcos. I hate Browns in general so I can't comment on how they'd feel. I've never owned a keyboard with Browns. Missalaire sold her Filco saying they Browns felt odd on the Filco. So yes, it's just what friends have told me. I have Blues on mine.

Thanks for the response on the led hole CPT.  I thought I was thinking right but wanted some confirmation.

Have you tried lubed browns?  I think that is what cherry was looking for in that switch.  Stock browns to me are kinda meh, but lubed browns feel nice with lighter caps.

[CPTBadAss]

Have you tried lubed browns?  I think that is what cherry was looking for in that switch.  Stock browns to me are kinda meh, but lubed browns feel nice with lighter caps.

No, I've pretty much given up on Browns and Reds.

[qrthur]

Oh allright well I am wrong then ! OK so there is no reason not to go for a Filco keyboard then.

Just one thing that annoys me. I want to have brown switches, because it will primary be for programming, and also for gaming (but this is not the first criteria). Do you know what was wrong with filco brown switches ? Or is it just something you heard ?

Anyway, thanks for all of your replies (I didn't expect that much so quickly !)

Filco with Browns is a fine choice! Don't let anyone tell you differently. I own several Filcos!!

Allright then it is a deal ! Thanks guys for helping me be sure of my choice (and this choice spared me 1+ month or waiting the delivery and 30~€)

See you around

[PhineasRex]

Is there any place I can buy wooden keycaps? I see that mechanicalkeyboards sells a single Row 1 poplar key, but I would need the other rows too. Thanks for your answers!

[Puddsy]

Is there any place I can buy wooden keycaps? I see that mechanicalkeyboards sells a single Row 1 poplar key, but I would need the other rows too. Thanks for your answers!

Some people have made them, but not recently. There was some problem with them that I can't remember.

[CPTBadAss]

Is there any place I can buy wooden keycaps? I see that mechanicalkeyboards sells a single Row 1 poplar key, but I would need the other rows too. Thanks for your answers!

Think MechanicalKeyboards.com is the only current retail place you can get it. Nubbinator has made one as far as I can remember. You could try asking The_Beast as well.

[LechnerDE]

Hey guys, quick question:

Somewhere in the GH60 thread it was recommended to use PCB mounted switches even if you ordered a plate because it would be even more sturdy.

Can you use PCB mounted switches with every plate without breaking off the pins or is this a feature of the GH60?

[kmiller8]

Hey guys, quick question:

Somewhere in the GH60 thread it was recommended to use PCB mounted switches even if you ordered a plate because it would be even more sturdy.

Can you use PCB mounted switches with every plate without breaking off the pins or is this a feature of the GH60?

PCB mounted switches only have to be broken off if the PCB doesn't have the PCB-mount holes.

[CPTBadAss]

Hey guys, quick question:

Somewhere in the GH60 thread it was recommended to use PCB mounted switches even if you ordered a plate because it would be even more sturdy.

Can you use PCB mounted switches with every plate without breaking off the pins or is this a feature of the GH60?

Think it's more of a question of the PCB. PCB mounted switches will fit in the plates fine. It's whether or not the PCB has holes to accept the legs.

[LechnerDE]

Thanks for the fast replies!

Well, I guess in this case I will order PCB mounted switches to be prepared for everything. In the worst case I'd have to break off the pins which shouldn't be too much of a hustle

[CPTBadAss]

Thanks for the fast replies!

Well, I guess in this case I will order PCB mounted switches to be prepared for everything. In the worst case I'd have to break off the pins which shouldn't be too much of a hustle

That's usually my thinking as well. Rather have the extra pins and clip them off rather than potentially have a wobbly switch. (Not saying plate mounted will be wobbly, but extra stability/overkill is good.)

[yasuo]

Actually colors keycap on hhkb white is white on blue or grey?
i see blues sky though on EK written gray

[yasuo]

Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.

I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon )

Link?

A yellow FC660[C|M] would be nice

[rowdy]

Ducky has the yellow keyboard, not Leopold.

I thik leopold fc700R release yellow version,soon )

Link?

A yellow FC660[C|M] would be nice

(Attachment Link)

Nice - reminiscent of the yellow Filco!

[CPTBadAss]

Actually colors keycap on hhkb white is white on blue or grey?
i see blues sky though on EK written gray

From EK

Looks like dark grey/black on grey for the mods and dark grey/black on white for the alphas.

[gameaholic]

What is the difference between KMAC and KMAC LE?  How do I program my KMAC to shut off the LEDs?  Can I ask a machine shop to anodize any aluminum case to get the titanium color on the KMAC?

[CPTBadAss]

1) What is the difference between KMAC and KMAC LE?
2) How do I program my KMAC to shut off the LEDs? 
3) Can I ask a machine shop to anodize any aluminum case to get the titanium color on the KMAC?

1) Anodization finish
2) I'm not 100% sure but you can check these threads:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49647.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=30875.0
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51252.0
3) Yes. The shop might not be able to do the anodization there, but they should know of a shop that can do the anodization for you.

[dorkvader]

What is the difference between KMAC and KMAC LE?  How do I program my KMAC to shut off the LEDs?  Can I ask a machine shop to anodize any aluminum case to get the titanium color on the KMAC?

KMAC LE had the bottom and top parts of the case anodyzed a (very slightly) different colour and was sold as a slight discount, I believe. It also says "KMAC LE" on the PCB.

LED functionality is controlled with a key command available in the programming GUI. I mapped mine to fn+esc. Pressing it turns the different LED "groups" on and off. (esc, functions, wasd cluster, all on, all off I think)

[nzhao20]

http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg
Anyone know whether there are replacement controllers that would fit this keyboard (fc660c)?

[dorkvader]

http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg
Anyone know whether there are replacement controllers that would fit this keyboard (fc660c)?

Not yet. The closes is the replacement HHKB controller that hasu has made
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.0

[CPTBadAss]

http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg
Anyone know whether there are replacement controllers that would fit this keyboard (fc660c)?

Just in case you didn't know, you can use the code below to show your pictures off next time:

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/6slkxKz.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/UpLtfkj.jpg[/img]


[lcs]

I'm searching for a guy to cut cases for ergodox here in Brazil, and he asked me if I had the measurements of each of the pieces from Litster's design I got from the CAD thread.

Can someone help me or the files are in 'real size'?

[yasuo]

I'm searching for a guy to cut cases for ergodox here in Brazil, and he asked me if I had the measurements of each of the pieces from Litster's design I got from the CAD thread.

Can someone help me or the files are in 'real size'?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744
i hope helps

[lcs]

I'm searching for a guy to cut cases for ergodox here in Brazil, and he asked me if I had the measurements of each of the pieces from Litster's design I got from the CAD thread.

Can someone help me or the files are in 'real size'?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744
i hope helps

I got the file from there, but it seems they have no measurements

I don't understand a thing about CAD, though, maybe I'm wrong XD

[KaLam1ty]

In the Pitched Black GB, I asked why people thought Cherry Profile was better than OEM.
From what I've gathered, people tend to like the typing experience on it more.

Any specifics for those who have Cherry and why they like it more as well? I'm trying to convince myself of
whether or not I should give a try at a set before dropping $50. 'would like to know everything that is
"oh so great" about Cherry .

[jonathanyu]

where do people make out picture of keycaps for picture? is there program of doing it, or people just make it by photoshop?
like these few picture


(pic from google, pretty sure the first one is from originative, not sure about the second one)