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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8951 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52 »
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
There's a silver one here for $360

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8952 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:21:32 »
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

I think jdcarpe has one so hopefully he can comment. I think metalliqaz has one too.

Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:35:51
Ah yes, please point me in the direction of the KMAC store :) I would surely pay $300 for an assembled KMAC.

There's not being made new anymore so Classifieds are going to be your best bet.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8953 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:24:34 »
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:21:32
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

I think jdcarpe has one so hopefully he can comment. I think metalliqaz has one too.

The TypeNow Solid is the best thing you can get, next to a Korean custom. In fact, it *is* Korean, from Leopold. :)

The aluminum housing is just what the name describes...SOLID. The orange plate is beautiful. And the browns feel like they were lubed at the factory. That's a great price for it, too. I paid $400 for mine, without keycaps.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8954 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:27:33 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:24:34
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:21:32
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

I think jdcarpe has one so hopefully he can comment. I think metalliqaz has one too.

The TypeNow Solid is the best thing you can get, next to a Korean custom. In fact, it *is* Korean, from Leopold. :)

The aluminum housing is just what the name describes...SOLID. The orange plate is beautiful. And the browns feel like they were lubed at the factory. That's a great price for it, too. I paid $400 for mine, without keycaps.

Thanks for the input. I see Elton has some Kingsavers? Anyone want to assemble one for me :)

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8955 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:36:40 »
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:27:33
Thanks for the input. I see Elton has some Kingsavers? Anyone want to assemble one for me :)

Just remember that the Kingsavers are Alps switches only.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8956 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:40:50 »
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:36:40
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:27:33
Thanks for the input. I see Elton has some Kingsavers? Anyone want to assemble one for me :)

Just remember that the Kingsavers are Alps switches only.

Doh! Well that idea is out the window. I feel like I NEED 65g MX Blacks.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8957 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:50:22 »
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:40:50
I feel like I NEED 65g MX Blacks.

You do.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8958 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23 »
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
There's a silver one here for $360

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

they're really gross actually

just get a KMAC or something
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8960 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:52:06 »
Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
There's a silver one here for $360

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

they're really gross actually

just get a KMAC or something

I've always thought they are good looking keyboards
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8961 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:06:35 »
Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
There's a silver one here for $360

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

they're really gross actually

just get a KMAC or something

Gross? You're gross.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8962 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12 »
Quote from: Dubsgalore on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:52:06
Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:51:23
Quote from: Battou62 on Thu, 10 July 2014, 14:19:52
Quote from: Photekq on Thu, 10 July 2014, 13:38:15
There's a silver one here for $360

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54560.msg1222305#msg1222305

I see he also has a typenow solid for sale. Are these any good?

they're really gross actually

just get a KMAC or something

I've always thought they are good looking keyboards

look good yes

they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

which defeats the whole point of a custom
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8963 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:24:25 »
Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
look good yes

they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

which defeats the whole point of a custom

I thought they were meant to be used with their stock keycaps but hey

I have yet to try one in person yet
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8964 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:00:12 »
Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

Well, yeah. I did say it was a Leopold. ;D

Also, not flimsy at all. I haven't opened the case yet, though.

Plus, how else would I get to use this kick-ass Titanuim space bar, which only has stems at the Leo spacing?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8965 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:02:36 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:00:12
Quote from: TacticalStache on Thu, 10 July 2014, 15:10:12
they're really flimsy and the case is really hard to open and it uses leopolds awful stem spacing

Well, yeah. I did say it was a Leopold. ;D

Plus, how else would I get to use this kick-ass Titanuim space bar, which only has stems at the Leo spacing?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8966 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 16:09:50 »
And probably the best reason to own a TNS, is that its orange plate makes a trio of HO Clacks look awesome. :D

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8969 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:38:32 »
That doesn't even remotely look like an alps switch?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8970 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:39:52 »
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:24:55
Quote from: digi on Thu, 10 July 2014, 17:23:10
Anyone know anything about this board?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DATA-GENERAL-KEYBOARD-KFB-4725-RED-LABEL-CLICKY-IBM-/291187498358?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item43cc209d76

Looks like an Alps board with a DataGeneral sticker slapped on top of the LED window.

Quote from: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:38:32
That doesn't even remotely look like an alps switch?

So what does it look like to you?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8971 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:46:36 »
No clue but did you scroll down and see the switch?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8972 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:48:30 »
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8973 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:51:05 »
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8974 on: Thu, 10 July 2014, 21:00:28 »
Quote from: calavera on Thu, 10 July 2014, 20:46:36
No clue but did you scroll down and see the switch?

I did not. I am a bad person and I will put myself in the naughty corner. Many apologies. :(
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8975 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04 »
Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8976 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53 »
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8977 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33 »
Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?

Because it's easier to get your hands on them now. Ergo Clears and normal Clears were praised for their tactility before, too.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8978 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:57:45 »
Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?

In addition to what bluebar said. I think mechanicalkeyboards.com becoming a Cherry retailer really helped the popularity spike. It was harder to find mx clears before.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8979 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40 »
Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.

I liked clears before they were popular :thumb:
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8980 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:58:26 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40

Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.


I would like the stronger bump with the lighter spring, if I do the ergo mod I suppose that lubing is almost a necessity.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8981 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:39:18 »
Quote from: fohat.digs on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:58:26
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40

Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.


I would like the stronger bump with the lighter spring, if I do the ergo mod I suppose that lubing is almost a necessity.


It seems to depend on how light you go. Lots of people have success with 62g and no lube.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8982 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:40:58 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Fri, 11 July 2014, 07:30:40
Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

Many people say clears are what they expected browns to be.

I liked clears before they were popular :thumb:

That's what people say about mx greens/mx blues :))

A lot of people start on modern browns , and like them, until they try something else and then they find that they hate modern browns afterwards :))
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8983 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:44:10 »
Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

Because they have the master spring for linear switches.  That is until someone is able to supply our market with springs with an even steeper spring rate.  I want something that actuates around 50-ish and then bottoms out at somewhere in the 120 range.  I have a feeling that a spring with a very quick progressive spring rate would feel very nice on MX linears but I would imagine making progressive rate springs at this size would be pretty expensive compared to linear rate springs.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8984 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:47:35 »
Quote from: Melvang on Fri, 11 July 2014, 08:44:10
Quote from: ajx on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:50:53
why is MX-Clear becoming currently popular ?
its somehow a bit similar to the brown feeling with more pronounced bump tactile although brown doesnt attract many users.

Because they have the master spring for linear switches.

Huh? The question was asking why MX clear switches are popular. I don't see what that has to do with linear switches. And I don't think the modded MX linears with Clear springs are that popular within the community to be honest.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8985 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:32:41 »
Anyone have experience with plastidipping plates? I'm pretty sure it will adhere to the steel plate with no problem, but I'm slightly worried about when it comes to soldering the switches in.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8986 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:25:34 »
Quote from: b7ad on Fri, 11 July 2014, 09:32:41
Anyone have experience with plastidipping plates? I'm pretty sure it will adhere to the steel plate with no problem, but I'm slightly worried about when it comes to soldering the switches in.

I plastidipped the top case of my Shine II.  I haven't tried it on a plate.

I think the plastidip would get scratches or peel if you accidentally hit it with a wire keycap puller while pulling keycaps off.  It may also peel when -- as you mentioned -- insert the switches.

If you do decide to experiment and have trouble peeling the plastidip off, spray some WD40 on it and brush it.  WD40 dissolves plastidip. ;)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8987 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:49:56 »
Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

Thanks...anybody able to confirm 100%?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8988 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:55:23 »
Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:49:56
Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

Thanks...anybody able to confirm 100%?

I can confirm that I have seen people in the "Post your Topre keyboard" thread with mixed sets. lol.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8989 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:46:02 »
Which spring would be considered slightly lighter than a stock mx black spring?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8990 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:04:27 »
Quote from: Battou62 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:46:02
Which spring would be considered slightly lighter than a stock mx black spring?

68-75g should be good. Stock Blue/Brown/Red springs are around 60g, Black springs around 80g.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8991 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:22:02 »
Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:04:27
Quote from: Battou62 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 11:46:02
Which spring would be considered slightly lighter than a stock mx black spring?

68-75g should be good. Stock Blue/Brown/Red springs are around 60g, Black springs around 80g.

Are these korean or cherry weights?  korean right?
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8992 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:26:43 »
Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:22:02
Are these korean or cherry weights?  korean right?

Korean. Nobody really works with Cherry's measurements.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8993 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:28:29 »
Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 10:49:56
Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 05:53:33
Quote from: intelli78 on Fri, 11 July 2014, 01:59:04
Do HHKB and Realforce caps have the same profiles?

People mix and match those sets, so I think they do.

Thanks...anybody able to confirm 100%?

they're literally the exact same keycaps just on different boards
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8994 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:34:50 »
Thanks.  :thumb:
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8995 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:48:26 »
Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:26:43
Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 12:22:02
Are these korean or cherry weights?  korean right?

Korean. Nobody really works with Cherry's measurements.

Perfect.  I just wanted to clarify for everyone's benefit.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8996 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:11:27 »
Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:48:26
Perfect.  I just wanted to clarify for everyone's benefit.

Gotcha. I think we need a whole FAQ devoted to springs :))
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8997 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:18:44 »
Quote from: BlueBär on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:11:27
Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 16:48:26
Perfect.  I just wanted to clarify for everyone's benefit.

Gotcha. I think we need a whole FAQ devoted to springs :))

haha.  i am sure we already have one. somewhere...  :)  i try to just make sure that the info is clear when i can.  :) 
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8998 on: Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:20:25 »
Quote from: swill on Fri, 11 July 2014, 17:18:44
haha.  i am sure we already have one. somewhere...  :)  i try to just make sure that the info is clear when i can.  :)

Well we have a short explanation in the OP but the question still comes up way too often :)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #8999 on: Sat, 12 July 2014, 08:20:29 »
What's the name of the springs used in HHKB Pro 2 spacebars?
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