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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #200 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 14:50:07 »
How much will the pcb+controller soldered on cost?
Like I've said all along, $20.
And you still have my keycaps on hand right  :p
I haven't the slightest clue.  That business can be concluded when money changes hands.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #201 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:01:39 »
I should have a case design ready in next couple of days, basically it will be the same shape as the reference design, unless some people want it to be the plain-jane rectangular shape.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #202 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:04:57 »
I should have a case design ready in next couple of days, basically it will be the same shape as the reference design, unless some people want it to be the plain-jane rectangular shape.


plain jane please. reference seems to waste too much space.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #203 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:15:57 »
I suggest the plain rectangle also, having seen this in person.  I will try to upload a concept tonight.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #204 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:25:16 »
Yes plain please  ;D

Also moz, if you're making the case, will you ship whatever stickers that I ordered that have been completed with it and whatever you haven't finished later?

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #205 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:35:23 »
Yeah, I'll club shipping.

It will be like the GHPad case, rectangular shape 5 layers, top one being plate as well.

Colors that will be available:
Clear
Clear Matte
Black
Black Matte
White
Orange
Pink
Blue
Smoke

Anyone that is getting the PCB please let me know in the next 2 days what colors you want.

$22 for the case including shipping and PP fees.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #206 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:37:20 »
Yeah, I'll club shipping.

It will be like the GHPad case, rectangular shape 5 layers, top one being plate as well.

Colors that will be available:
Clear
Clear Matte
Black
Black Matte
White
Orange
Pink
Blue
Smoke

Anyone that is getting the PCB please let me know in the next 2 days what colors you want.

oooh nice
do you have pictures of what the acrylic looks like?
specifically clear matte, black matte, smoke and pink?

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #207 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 15:44:14 »
Yeah, I'll club shipping.

It will be like the GHPad case, rectangular shape 5 layers, top one being plate as well.

Colors that will be available:
Clear
Clear Matte
Black
Black Matte
White
Orange
Pink
Blue
Smoke

Anyone that is getting the PCB please let me know in the next 2 days what colors you want.

oooh nice
do you have pictures of what the acrylic looks like?
specifically clear matte, black matte, smoke and pink?

Ditto. I think Smoke and Black Matte would look cool, but I need pics.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #210 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 16:12:57 »
Make mine black matte--orange--clear matte--orange--black matte, please MOZ.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #211 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 16:18:18 »
Moz I'd like to give your PCB free of charge for doing this.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #212 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 16:23:28 »
Moz I'd like to give your PCB free of charge for doing this.

Thanks a lot, highly appreciated. When sending the PM to the participants, if you can lead them to the thread, so that they can tell me the color choices ASAP, it would be great as I don't want people to miss out if they want to get a case, because I won't be able to get them after Friday as cases would be cut over weekend, and I won't be able to get them cut after that until February 2014.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #213 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 17:24:52 »
I'll do matte black for the top and bottom and clear matte for the middle layers Moz.  And if you're willing to share the files, I'd love to have some Corel compatible file for the top and bottom since I really want to try a wood top and bottom for mine.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #214 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:02:27 »
What does the case run again?

Matte black for me.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #215 on: Wed, 27 November 2013, 18:11:43 »
I'd like to get
blue
clear matte
pink
clear matte
blue

around how much will it cost?

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #216 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 04:18:28 »
Add images for clear matte: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43183.msg1136387#msg1136387

And if you're willing to share the files, I'd love to have some Corel compatible file for the top and bottom since I really want to try a wood top and bottom for mine.

I'll upload the files, once I am done, with the case. Should have it done by evening Indian time.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #217 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 04:22:53 »
Cases ordered:
jdcarpe: black matte--orange--clear matte--orange--black matte
nubbinator: black matte--clear matte--clear matte--clear matte--black matte
Hak Foo: black matte for all
Pacifist: blue--clear matte--pink--clear matte--blue
MOZ: black matte--clear matte--clear matte--clear matte--black matte

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #218 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 13:24:51 »
Cool, thanks.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #219 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 15:03:18 »
perfect! you‘re going to make cutouts to open the switches without desoldering right?

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #220 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 18:54:50 »
perfect! you‘re going to make cutouts to open the switches without desoldering right?

I'm sure it will have that, the two different cases MOZ made for me have them.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #221 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 02:04:40 »
perfect! you‘re going to make cutouts to open the switches without desoldering right?

As regack mentioned, definitely yes, and they will support the PCB stabs (Which I recommend), for costar or Cherry Plate stabs you will need to mod and glue them as acrylic will be 3mm.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #222 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 07:16:52 »
I will try to dig up some PCB mount stabilizers and do a fit-check

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #223 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:14:18 »
metalliqaz I'd like to send a case to you absolutely free, let me know your color choices.

One question I have is, is their a hardware reset switch? If yes, what is the location?

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #224 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:22:28 »
Thanks Mozbro but mine is already in a case :)

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #225 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:23:24 »
Thanks Mozbro but mine is already in a case :)

I thought you got two PCB for yourself.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #226 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:25:19 »
There is a location for hardware reset but it isn't really a switch. It's a jumper.  It is near the top center.  Marked with a box in the hardware layer.  I'm out of town but I will upload more data files when I get home

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #227 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:35:04 »
Okay, I see it. Can you let me know if it is on the top side or bottom? I will make a cutout in the case to use a flat head screw driver to short the jumper.

Let me know if there are any other such components I need to be aware of before making the case. Currently there would be ~4.5mm clearance below the PCB and ~2mm above the PCB.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #228 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:41:13 »
They are through hole. You'll see in the Gerbers.  There is nothing to avoid on the top.  All the buts are on the bottom. The USB is the biggest thing.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #229 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 13:43:04 »
Okay cool, thanks, then looks like most is sorted. Case should be just about done then.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #230 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:01:03 »
Ugh, 0603 resistors on a full-LED keyboard with a soldering iron.  Never again.

Also I uploaded the schematic and gerbers.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #231 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:02:12 »
Do you have a tutorial for soldering the diodes when we get the pcb's and case? Its my first time soldering and I don't want to mess up

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #232 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:03:36 »
Do you have a tutorial for soldering the diodes when we get the pcb's and case? Its my first time soldering and I don't want to mess up

I will solder a few of your diodes to show you how they go.  Search YouTube for soldering tutorials.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #233 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:05:54 »
Do you have a tutorial for soldering the diodes when we get the pcb's and case? Its my first time soldering and I don't want to mess up

I will solder a few of your diodes to show you how they go.  Search YouTube for soldering tutorials.

The secret is to have good tools, and to use less solder.

Sounds good, thanks! Im going to rewatch the videos in the soldering thread before I start  :p

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #234 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:07:16 »
By the way I checked your white LEDs with one of the completed boards today.  Really bright.  Looks nice.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #235 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:10:44 »
By the way I checked your white LEDs with one of the completed boards today.  Really bright.  Looks nice.

Sweet, thanks! Going to do the solderless LED header mod on them and then I'm going to use some of those led color changers from taobao I bought over the summer that haven't been used yet because I don't have a board with backlighting. That way I can still open the switch with LEDs


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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #236 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 21:14:23 »
More info for when the PCBs arrive.  This is the default layout they come with:
46650-0

So, to get it into the bootloader, it's Fn, then period.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #237 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 15:20:31 »
Okay cool, thanks, then looks like most is sorted. Case should be just about done then.

Any eta on when we can get the cases and the cost? Are you still taking finals?

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« Reply #238 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 15:21:51 »
More info for when the PCBs arrive.  This is the default layout they come with:
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So, to get it into the bootloader, it's Fn, then period.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #239 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 21:57:47 »
Okay cool, thanks, then looks like most is sorted. Case should be just about done then.

Any eta on when we can get the cases and the cost? Are you still taking finals?

Price is $22 including PP and shipping.

I will upload the design later tonight and have these cut possibly tomorrow or day after for sure. Next weeke I will start sending these out, I have to send out some 200 packages which includes stickers and keyring GB and other random stuff, so it would possibly take multiple days to get everything out, I will club together items from different GBs and orders for the same address.

Whoever wants the case, please PM me your PayPal email ID, adress including phone number and the colors for the layers.

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« Reply #240 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 22:45:04 »
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #241 on: Thu, 05 December 2013, 20:08:07 »
Okay cool, thanks, then looks like most is sorted. Case should be just about done then.

Any eta on when we can get the cases and the cost? Are you still taking finals?

Price is $22 including PP and shipping.

I will upload the design later tonight and have these cut possibly tomorrow or day after for sure. Next weeke I will start sending these out, I have to send out some 200 packages which includes stickers and keyring GB and other random stuff, so it would possibly take multiple days to get everything out, I will club together items from different GBs and orders for the same address.

Whoever wants the case, please PM me your PayPal email ID, adress including phone number and the colors for the layers.

PM sent!

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #242 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:42:47 »
So here is the case:


If anyone has any recommendations, let me know.

Two possible changes in my mind are:
1. Rectangular edges.
2. The 3 middle layers slightly wider(1mm on all 4 sides) so those layers show a bit from the sides.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #243 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:47:42 »
Maybe you can try to fix the countersink on the holes on this one so the case can use flat head screws and have them be flush?
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #244 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:50:59 »
Maybe you can try to fix the countersink on the holes on this one so the case can use flat head screws and have them be flush?

Difficult to do that with laser engraving. :(

I like option 2, MOZ, where the middle layers stick out a bit.
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #245 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 09:52:41 »
By the way if you have paid me I am shipping this weekend. You will get tracking via PM.

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« Reply #246 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:04:40 »
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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #247 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:25:57 »
Maybe you can try to fix the countersink on the holes on this one so the case can use flat head screws and have them be flush?

The way I am going on these is, just skipping the engraving altogether and going with holes on the topmost and bottom layer that are just smaller than the head of the screw so it sits almost completely flush.

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #248 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:26:00 »
I like it the way it is right now

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Re: Prototyping: Custom extended numpad (31 key)
« Reply #249 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:58:24 »

I like option 2, MOZ, where the middle layers stick out a bit.

I prefer the other way where it's flush all around.