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GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 06:59:34 »
Well, the topic already says all that's needed to say:
Who is interested in one 100% Open Source Acrylic Case for the GH60 PCB? Simple Acrylic Layered - no fancy stuff, clear and simple.
I and Photekq were talking about this project and we would love to see whom is interested in ...
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 07:50:57 »
I would be interested.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:24:49 »
Would just like to add it doesn't need to be acrylic. Will most likely be a layered case but it could be machined from anything - metal, wood, acrylic etc.

I'm just waiting for the GH60 PCB to be finalised and then I will start work on the case.

I will try my best to ensure there are multiple options like hhkb etc.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:25:37 »
Can we please get a 2TU style case? Aluminum-Acrylic-Aluminum sandwich case?
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:27:24 »
Can we please get a 2TU style case? Aluminum-Acrylic-Aluminum sandwich case?
Sure, but bear in mind that in order to get it as neat and tidy as the 2TU it would need to be machined and not laser cut.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:36:37 »
Laser cut is lame anyways. I like seeing the machine finishes. Makes my inner engineer all warm and fuzzy :D
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:47:39 »
Generally I am interested in all case projects, as I know that 80% of them will die before getting finished. For GH60 I think there are already a few projects in the pipeline.....but as mentioned....that doesnt mean anything.  :D

For me personally it would be important to have an HHKB layout as I would like to make an ISO-HHKB. \o/

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 08:59:40 »
Open source is right up my favorites list. Looking forward to it.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:01:29 »
Something new like wood or carbon fiber
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:09:43 »
Generally I am interested in all case projects, as I know that 80% of them will die before getting finished. For GH60 I think there are already a few projects in the pipeline.....but as mentioned....that doesnt mean anything.  :D

For me personally it would be important to have an HHKB layout as I would like to make an ISO-HHKB. \o/
They die just because there isn't enough people interested in.  The GH60 PCB is selling good as far as I know and one open source case like this one will help all those guys without a case (or without money to pay for a US$150 case).
As I said - our idea is to make one simple case, we are not willing to compete with the professional cases that are already being sold out there.

To be honest Photekq already designed one basic case, we are just waiting the final PCB version to get the right dimensions.
So, it's already almost touchable - it's not just another dream ...
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:19:32 »
Alright let's get this ball rolling. I already made this for agodinhost a few weeks ago but I think it's a good start.

It's a very simple three layer case and is meant to be laser cut. It's not particularly tidy and will have exposed screws but it's extremely simple and should be extremely cheap.

Top layer should be 1.5mm thick. Middle should be 10mm minimum, but can be as thick as you want. Bottom can be any thickness.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:27:37 »
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:38:07 »
Do you think counterboring the holes would add a lot to the cost? That way the screwheads arent sticking up out of the case.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:39:32 »
Do you think counterboring the holes would add a lot to the cost? That way the screwheads arent sticking up out of the case.
Problem with machining the top plate is that the switch holes have to have internal radii. May have to come up with a new design of switch hole to allow it to be machined and to allow switch tops to be removed.

For low quantities machining can be cheaper than laser cutting so price isn't the problem.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:42:43 »
What does counterboring the screw holes have to do with the switch holes?

Edit: Actually, if the plate is as thin as the plate I have for my KMAC, there wouldn't be enough room for a counterbore...But my question still stands. I'm just curious :D
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:45:35 »
What does counterboring the screw holes have to do with the switch holes?
In order to have counterbored screw holes you would need to machine the pieces not laser cut them (unless you were to glue two laser cut pieces together). What I'm saying is that with laser cutting you don't need to have radii on internal corners, whereas with machining you do. I'm unsure whether these interal radii would stop the switch holes from functioning properly.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:47:11 »
Gotcha. I got confused since I asked about the 2TU layout before and was still under the impression that your posted case was going to be machined.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:47:57 »
Gotcha. I got confused since I asked about the 2TU layout before and was still under the impression that your posted case was going to be machined.
The one I posted is designed to be laser cut. Working on two cases for machining right now :D

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:52:45 »
Looks very nice, Photekq. All you need is a cutout on the middle layer for the USB connector.

CPTBadAss, I think you could just drill some countersinks after laser cutting. Use a drill press, or even a hand drill.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 09:54:21 »
Looks very nice, Photekq. All you need is a cutout on the middle layer for the USB connector.

CPTBadAss, I think you could just drill some countersinks after laser cutting. Use a drill press, or even a hand drill.
Will be adding the USB hole once the PCB is finalised. You could add countersink holes but not counterbore holes (at least not big enough to accomodate a full screw head) like cpt suggested.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:08:21 »
CPTBadAss, I think you could just drill some countersinks after laser cutting. Use a drill press, or even a hand drill.

It would have to pass through the plate and then end in the case though right? I initially meant that the countersink should be in the plate but I don't think that would work.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:15:51 »
Use flat head machine screws that go all the way through the case (just barely), and use nuts on the bottom. The top side will be flush, and you'll never see the nuts on the bottom.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:18:17 »
Use flat head machine screws that go all the way through the case (just barely), and use nuts on the bottom. The top side will be flush, and you'll never see the nuts on the bottom.
Yep. This is the tidiest thing you can do with a fully lasercut case.

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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:25:06 »
I don't like seeing bolts from the top either. Possible to make layer 4 that will go on the top similar to the mid section, and have drilled (not all the way through obviously) and tapped so the bolts go through from the bottom and thread into the top border? Hell tap every layer for that matter so it is held together well.

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:27:06 »
I don't like seeing bolts from the top either. Possible to make layer 4 that will go on the top similar to the mid section, and have drilled (not all the way through obviously) and tapped so the bolts go through from the bottom and thread into the top border? Hell tap every layer for that matter so it is held together well.
You'll see that soon. I'm making a few designs. The one posted earlier is the cheapest and is meant for laser cutting. Will be posting 2 pretty soon that are meant for machining. One is how you described.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #26 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:33:03 »
Nice. I keep seeing lots of nice concepts for cases, but too few seem to be interested in working with cheaper materials. Hoping to see some solutions in the under $75 tier that are actual cases.

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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:44:04 »
I changed the top layer to my HHKB layout. Added some screw holes. And made the cutout for the USB in the middle layer. :D





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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 10:45:43 »
I changed the top layer to my HHKB layout. Added some screw holes. And made the cutout for the USB in the middle layer. :D

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Nice :D I have added some more screwholes to the design.. The pictures I posted earlier were from a long time ago. I'll update the files shortly.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:35:33 »
I would be interested.


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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:39:25 »
cool.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 11:59:04 »
Nice. I keep seeing lots of nice concepts for cases, but too few seem to be interested in working with cheaper materials. Hoping to see some solutions in the under $75 tier that are actual cases.
That's the idea!
JDCarpe mentioned something like US$ 35,00 ...
Not sure if it's possible tought
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:02:57 »
Second case : 'Simple Machined' Basically the same as the laser cut one but with countersunk/threaded holes. Tidier but most likely more expensive.

http://i.imgur.com/Y1fq80V.png

More will come later/tomorrow. Just trying to work some stuff out.


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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:05:50 »
Pictures here : http://imgur.com/a/fOSwe
Files here : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5wnpv17iftjqbp8/JR_rWjfHpo

All case files will be put in this folder in the future : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/486yq39dyllmvya/Qn5BGenjp0
What about Github?
I do love it's sharing and versioning features ...
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:07:06 »
Pictures here : http://imgur.com/a/fOSwe
Files here : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5wnpv17iftjqbp8/JR_rWjfHpo

All case files will be put in this folder in the future : https://www.dropbox.com/sh/486yq39dyllmvya/Qn5BGenjp0
What about Github?
I do love it's sharing and versioning features ...
I've never used it. I'll give it a try later on.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:09:24 »
Nice. I keep seeing lots of nice concepts for cases, but too few seem to be interested in working with cheaper materials. Hoping to see some solutions in the under $75 tier that are actual cases.
That's the idea!
JDCarpe mentioned something like US$ 35,00 ...
Not sure if it's possible tought

I was thinking for acrylic at that price.

I would bet that if we could order these in volume, we could get the price of the 3-layer laser cut design, in either stainless steel or aluminum, down to around $75 including hardware.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:33:41 »
Second case : 'Simple Machined' Basically the same as the laser cut one but with countersunk/threaded holes. Tidier but most likely more expensive.

http://i.imgur.com/Y1fq80V.png

Oooo, I really like this one. Looking good mang
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:56:03 »
depending on price i'd be in

def interested

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 12:56:57 »
I like it a lot, would be interested depending what tops and materials are used. Can never have too many cases.

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:02:52 »
I like it a lot, would be interested depending what tops and materials are used. Can never have too many cases.
Like the title says it's open source. Once the designs are actually done you can take the files to any laser cutter/machine shop and have them make the components from any material you want.

I can also adapt the top plate to any layout.
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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:23:34 »
clean and simple... I like it.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #41 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:51:35 »
Case 3 - "Semi-Complex Machined"

I really like this one. As you can see there are standoffs on the top plate with screwholes in them. These are here because I wasn't happy having a threaded 1.5mm layer.. It just didn't seem secure enough to me.

As you can see it fits nicely into the middle layer and the bottom layer has countersunk holes. Overall I think this has a really tidy appearance since no screws are visible and I think it's worth the extra machining costs.






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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:55:27 »
Looking nice! Now I need to find another PCB :p

Edit - So removable switch tops and top piece is used as plate??
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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 13:57:40 »
Love the screws on the bottom, makes it one of the cleanest/minimalist cases out there.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:00:44 »
the cutout for the usb connector is missing :)

(or is this the leek for the wireless add on 0.o)

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:01:26 »
the cutout for the usb connector is missing :)

(or is this the leek for the wireless add on 0.o)
I haven't added USB holes to any of the designs since the GH60 PCB hasn't been finalised. Once it is I will add the holes and make sure the PCB fits.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:12:40 »
Love the screws on the bottom, makes it one of the cleanest/minimalist cases out there.

Definitively second the comment!  Very spiffy work!

Personally, I think I'd go with a fourth layer, as I like cases with some shrouding for the key stems.  Perhaps making this top layer the one with the blind-threaded inserts, just a simple rectangle the same size as the middle layer, maybe 2mm in thickness.

Lots of possibilities with your design!   ;D

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 14:14:14 »

Definitively second the comment!  Very spiffy work!

Personally, I think I'd go with a fourth layer, as I like cases with some shrouding for the key stems.  Perhaps making this top layer the one with the blind-threaded inserts, just a simple rectangle the same size as the middle layer, maybe 2mm in thickness.

Lots of possibilities with your design!   ;D
This is going to be the fourth 'Complex machined' design.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:33:38 »
ooh, I want to get the middle layer made out of acrylic, then I can put LEDs on the underside of the PCB and have it glow out the sides... yessss... that is what I want...

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 05 June 2013, 15:34:36 »
ooh, I want to get the middle layer made out of acrylic, then I can put LEDs on the underside of the PCB and have it glow out the sides... yessss... that is what I want...
I usually hate acrylic but that sounds awesome..