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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #150 on: Sun, 08 September 2013, 20:53:28 »
Awesome MOZ. Do have a particular length of standoff you would recommend if you are not using the integrated plate?

It looks really good man. This is exactly what I was looking for to pop up in this thread.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #151 on: Sun, 08 September 2013, 21:20:08 »
Hahha. I figured the Keepers of Faith have better things to do.

I think this will be it from me for the next week, as I have exams and I won't be able to give as much time, if any at all.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 00:36:52 »
The thread title does say open source, no? Thus it is open source. However I am looking to make it compatible with Poker, Poker 2 and Pure as well.

For the motherboard standoffs, I would recommend 5.5mm, I'll post a graphic of how I came to this number.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #153 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 00:38:59 »
Snip, double post.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 04:52:49 »
Really nice!
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #155 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 10:52:56 »
Attached design on white BG for anyone having problem viewing the image.

One recommendation I require is, for the PCB and plate cutouts, how much allowance should I have? At the moment I have 1.5-2mm, I think this is too much, and feel that for the plate I should have it .2mm smaller than the plate dimensions, as laser cut acrylic seem to have a very high tolerance, because the acrylic is literally melted at the laser points. For the PCB layer I will leave it as it is.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #156 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:26:59 »
How much would this cost to be produced?

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #157 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 14:50:29 »
How much would this cost to be produced?

No idea currently, but ballpark figure around $30 maybe, I can't be too sure.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:14:13 »
How much would this cost to be produced?

No idea currently, but ballpark figure around $30 maybe, I can't be too sure.

Shoot, if you can do this for $30 (in mass/group buy I assume?) I'm very much in. That's $36 shipped to most places.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:14:46 »
Since it's open source, we can take these designs anywhere we can to be produced right?

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:18:50 »
Yeah, take it to any laser cutter, or if you want you can combine the bottom 4 layers and then get that 3d printed/Machined and have the top machined in alu.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:27:54 »
How much would this cost to be produced?

No idea currently, but ballpark figure around $30 maybe, I can't be too sure.

Shoot, if you can do this for $30 (in mass/group buy I assume?) I'm very much in. That's $36 shipped to most places.

Wouldn't there be a possibility of a lowered price, if it was run a GB (isn't that the meaning of a GB  :)))?

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #162 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 15:29:40 »
Again, my figure was ballpark, not sure how much it would be if I got one made or 100 made.

The figure was based purely on the cost of acrylic and estimated time on the machine and the hourly rate.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 16:01:23 »
Again, my figure was ballpark, not sure how much it would be if I got one made or 100 made.

The figure was based purely on the cost of acrylic and estimated time on the machine and the hourly rate.

I contacted a local engraving company to see how much it'd cost me to have them etch a design on a small piece of acrylic... I would make the design myself... literally all they do is set it in the machine and press go. $25 minimum, up to $50 they said. No frickin way. I live in a small town without much competition, but still thats ridiculous. I'd have expected $5-7 or less, considering it would take about 2 minutes.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 16:04:23 »
Oh, yes, if we ever do this, custom engraving would obviously be an option, and not much expensive either, around $5.

BTW, let's not get ahead of ourselves, the main concern right now is perfecting the design, and making it compatible with the Poker/Pure.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 17:01:59 »
The thread title does say open source, no? Thus it is open source. However I am looking to make it compatible with Poker, Poker 2 and Pure as well.
Yes, my thread does say it mona!
I only read Photekq comment about your design - that's why I asked. I saw your thread only after asking it.

So, how do you pretend to prototype your design?
I were planning to help Photekq with the prototype and I think I can do the same with you ...
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #166 on: Thu, 12 September 2013, 21:32:07 »
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:44:23 »
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

I can get you exact measurements for the Pure if needed.   :thumb:  Super interested in this.

Also, Moz, can you pm or email me the cad files?  Thanks.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 22:51:52 »
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

I can get you exact measurements for the Pure if needed.   :thumb:  Super interested in this.

Also, Moz, can you pm or email me the cad files?  Thanks.

That would be awesome!

Here is the CAD file: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44382.msg1034343#msg1034343

I am yet to finalise it (Make plate cutout smaller, make USB cutout smaller)

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #169 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:03:43 »
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.

I can get you exact measurements for the Pure if needed.   :thumb:  Super interested in this.

Also, Moz, can you pm or email me the cad files?  Thanks.

That would be awesome!

Here is the CAD file: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44382.msg1034343#msg1034343

I am yet to finalise it (Make plate cutout smaller, make USB cutout smaller)

Perfect.  I missed it there at the bottom.  I will get some measurements over the weekend for you. 
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 13 September 2013, 23:25:49 »
Thanks!

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 01:57:27 »
The CAD files are available, if you have access to a laser cutter, you can get it cut, otherwise, I could arrange that for you.

However, hold on until we know the exact dimensions as PCB is yet to be finalised.
Yes, I'm waiting one Komar's prototype too.
He said he would send one to me in order to make this prototype (I don't know if he does remember anyway)
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #172 on: Wed, 18 September 2013, 17:01:31 »
I have got dimensions for the Poker/Pure, so I will be able to add support for them later tomorrow, along with some corrections regarding the position of the usb cutout, having the usb cutout on more layers, simpler stab cutout so that acrylic doesn't flex due to thin tabs in the stabs cutout. Also perfect fit cutouts for plates.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #173 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:05:25 »
Redid the design from scratch to better match dimensions, and have a perfect fit with the Poker/Pure PCB. Also used 8 degrees as the tilting angle so different number of feets. And made corrections as mentioned above.

Just a coupe of minor adjustments needed to add complete support for Poker/Pure.

Can someone with Poker II/Pure Pro help with the plate dimensions on those? Please.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #174 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:19:18 »
Redid the design from scratch to better match dimensions, and have a perfect fit with the Poker/Pure PCB. Also used 8 degrees as the tilting angle so different number of feets. And made corrections as mentioned above.

Just a coupe of minor adjustments needed to add complete support for Poker/Pure.

Can someone with Poker II/Pure Pro help with the plate dimensions on those? Please.
Just measured my Poker II's plate.

287mm x 95mm

THIS MAY NOT BE ACCURATE, I just grabbed these quickly. Someone else should verify.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #175 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:21:01 »
I need more stuff if possible, some photos would be good.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #176 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 14:26:24 »
I need more stuff if possible, some photos would be good.
I'll try to get some pictures soon.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #177 on: Sat, 28 September 2013, 19:38:30 »
So we all know that regack has been making great progress on the GHpad, now it would be a shame if there were no proper place to case it. Thus we have this:

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Top one is with a space between the GH60/60% and the other below has no space between the top sub-boards.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 01 October 2013, 15:37:32 »
Solved the bolting dilemma, I would most likely use my solution that I used for the TKL case here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007.msg1061407#msg1061407

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #179 on: Mon, 07 October 2013, 13:25:31 »
This post is relevant here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007.msg1068449#msg1068449

I got one case cut for Badwrench, let's see how it fits the Pure.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #180 on: Mon, 07 October 2013, 14:31:57 »
This post is relevant here: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=48007.msg1068449#msg1068449

I got one case cut for Badwrench, let's see how it fits the Pure.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #181 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 13:32:43 »
Someone please, please get my measurements for the Poker II and Pure Pro plate.

I am done with the PCB mounted ones, just made a case and will have those verified in a week or two.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #182 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:38:12 »
Sent this in for a quota from pololu, to get each plate layer cut. 90 dollars to have it cut, is this all correct? I will be getting the Bottom, middle, and top layers cut. Plus the mounting plate and maybe the feet. Is this correct?
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #183 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:54:35 »
Looks right, although if you can wait, I have a guinea pig who should get their case in a week, so I can make any necessary changes.

I would recommend you wait. 

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« Reply #184 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 15:58:15 »
Looks right, although if you can wait, I have a guinea pig who should get their case in a week, so I can make any necessary changes.

I would recommend you wait.

Sounds good! Im working on making my first direct wired keyboard. I am probably going to gather materials over the coarse of the next two months or so anyway, wait for good group buys to come out with keycaps and better priced switches.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #185 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:09:03 »
There will be one for cases soon too ;)

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #186 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:19:05 »
There will be one for cases soon too ;)
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #187 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 16:27:56 »
Sad thing is it will be a flash GB sicne I have exams starting mid next month, so it will be only till end of this month.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #188 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:09:11 »
waiting...
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #189 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:30:01 »
Is this GH coming up for this case? Or another one?
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #190 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:34:30 »
Is this GH coming up for this case? Or another one?

I don't understand what you mean? I think you mean GB? If yes, then it is for this case, TKL and Ergodox Case.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #191 on: Tue, 15 October 2013, 17:38:55 »
Shhhh, You didn't see anything!

In all seriousness, Yeah, I miss typed GB and didn't even notice it! Awesome that is coming quite soon, saves me time.
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #192 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 13:37:07 »
just replying to note interest

a question, though: if i wanted to have extra hardware inside the case, would accommodating it be as simple as adding an extra "rim" layer or two? i am thinking ghetto bluetooth mod with the handheldsci adapter stuffed under the keyboard pcb: http://handheldsci.com/kb

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #193 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 15:49:38 »
Yeah, it should be as simple as that.

You could also then drill some holes into the base layer, if you want to mount the extra hardware.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:17:02 »
Is that really feasible? I've heard drilling acrylic can lead to stress/heat fractures. I might just stick with glue or something.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #195 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:38:15 »
Very much, acrylic can be drilled very easily, just got to know how.

Use the bits used for wood, apply moderate pressure, not too fast and not too slow.

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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #196 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:52:30 »
Ok, first prototype is here.  Build quality is great (other than the admitted missed etching on some of the holes), and overall, very good case.  I went with a smoked and green transparent case.  Top sent to me was actually matte black and gives it a nice touch. 

Also, there were 2 types of mounting holes provided so that I could give some feedback.  The first was the etched hole to allow a flat head screw to be countersunk and be flush.  Where the etching lined up (on the feet mount), the process works perfectly.  The etching leaves a little bit of material in the countersink, but once cleaned out, fits perfectly.  I believe that if you wanted counter sunk, a drill bit would still be the best option here.  I have a countersink drill bit with a pilot and will be giving this a run on the off centered etchings. 

Center etching on left, off center on the right:
41350-0

With screw tighten in place.  Still a little higher than flush (also in this photo, you can see how the interior plates/pieces are cut to allow the brass riser to be held in place):
41366-1          41368-2

The other option was an oversized hole that is just a little smaller than the diameter of the flat head screw.  There is not much material being grabbed by the screw head, but considering that this is a no load area and that it is still just a 60% case, I foresee no issues here.  I actually prefer this method as it allows a little more wiggle room to make sure the case is nice a straight before tightening everything down.  Also, the flat heads are much more flush.

41370-3           41372-4

One item to note is that the mounting of the pcb is still in the works.  The bottom panel was drilled to the mounting points for my Pure, but the 3mm screws were too large to use with the risers (also, at 8mm height, were a little too tall).  I have some m2x5mm risers on order and will report back how they work out.  In addition, 2 of the mounting holes were just a hair off (I am remeasuring my pcb today).  Most likely error on my part  :blank:

Here is the setup assembled.  The acorn nut on the foot was just done for a quickie assembly.  The foot is actually the disks with the flush flat head pictured above. 

41384-5            41386-6

This is how it looks with my pcb in there (mocked up with cardboard to get it to 5mm). 
Note that I didn't do a very good job lining up the layers for these pics.  I actually sits perfectly flush as seen in the pics above. 

41460-7            41462-8
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #197 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:03:32 »
Do you have more pictures of the green acrylic? I am very interested in it and would like to see it if possible!
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #198 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:13:28 »
Do you have more pictures of the green acrylic? I am very interested in it and would like to see it if possible!

Sure, just took this for you:
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Re: GH60 100% Open Source Acrylic Case IC
« Reply #199 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 13:25:33 »
That looks really good.  Are those 2mm sheets?