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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:03:52 »
I'm doing what? Spamming? I've only just been doing it for a few months.

Making out like jdcarpe is using SmallFry's name in vain. They were good friends, he can call his custom keyboard whatever the hell he likes.
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:06:51 »
I'm doing what? Spamming? I've only just been doing it for a few months.

Making out like jdcarpe is using SmallFry's name in vain. They were good friends, he can call his custom keyboard whatever the hell he likes.
And I can give my opinion.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:07:31 »
I'm doing what? Spamming? I've only just been doing it for a few months.

Making out like jdcarpe is using SmallFry's name in vain. They were good friends, he can call his custom keyboard whatever the hell he likes.
And I can give my opinion.

This sin't the appropriate place for that.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:09:05 »
When is this gonna happen? I don't like MX at all, but I am sure going to get one of these.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:10:33 »
When is this gonna happen? I don't like MX at all, but I am sure going to get one of these.

I'm confused, there is MX and then then there is Cherry MX?

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:10:43 »
When is this gonna happen? I don't like MX at all, but I am sure going to get one of these.

FINALLY we're back on topic.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:11:49 »
When is this gonna happen? I don't like MX at all, but I am sure going to get one of these.

I'm confused, there is MX and then then there is Cherry MX?

Are you spamming? It's like the difference between Blackwidow and RAZER Blackwidow.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:13:10 »
JD, very cool of you to dedicate this build to SmallFry, well done sir.  :thumb:

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:13:44 »
When is this gonna happen? I don't like MX at all, but I am sure going to get one of these.

I'm confused, there is MX and then then there is Cherry MX?

Are you spamming? It's like the difference between Blackwidow and RAZER Blackwidow.
So Cherry is the company that makes MX?

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:14:53 »
When is this gonna happen? I don't like MX at all, but I am sure going to get one of these.

I'm confused, there is MX and then then there is Cherry MX?

Are you spamming? It's like the difference between Blackwidow and RAZER Blackwidow.
So Cherry is the company that makes MX?
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:28:59 »
I'm doing what? Spamming? I've only just been doing it for a few months.

Your comment comes off as rude. I'm trying to showcase my work on this new design, while paying tribute to my friend. I never even mentioned anything about selling anything.

In fact, I'm not really interested in making money here. That's why I'm not a vendor. Maybe one day I can fulfill my dream of making a living by designing and producing keyboards, but for now it is simply a hobby, and this community is my haven and source of recreation.

SmallFry was my friend, and I don't think he would have objected to my naming this keyboard project in his honor.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:30:46 »
Back OT. Nice work JD, how are you finding the function layers?
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:33:10 »
Hmm...

MediumFry-60%

LargeFry-TKL

MegaFry-Full size!

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:34:12 »
But it is true that things get more attention and money if you stamp "SmallFry" on it, ethical or not.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:41:02 »
Hmm...

MediumFry-60%

LargeFry-TKL

MegaFry-Full size!



This made me smile, because I know the story of how SmallFry got his moniker. Others who are "in the know" would probably know what I mean.

For everyone interested in making this a reality, I am currently in the middle of the GH60 GB, so this will probably have to wait a bit. I would also like to see the Alps TKL happen. But if someone else wants to take the reins and make moves, I would be willing to assist with what I have so far.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:43:28 »
But it is true that things get more attention and money if you stamp "SmallFry" on it, ethical or not.

If you want to discuss this via PM, I will. But I'm done talking to you about it in my thread. Please feel free to excuse yourself out of my thread, as well.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:45:08 »
But it is true that things get more attention and money if you stamp "SmallFry" on it, ethical or not.

If you want to discuss this via PM, I will. But I'm done talking to you about it in my thread. Please feel free to excuse yourself out of my thread, as well.

Classy as always  :thumb:
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 20:49:27 »
Hmm...

MediumFry-60%

LargeFry-TKL

MegaFry-Full size!



This made me smile, because I know the story of how SmallFry got his moniker. Others who are "in the know" would probably know what I mean.

For everyone interested in making this a reality, I am currently in the middle of the GH60 GB, so this will probably have to wait a bit. I would also like to see the Alps TKL happen. But if someone else wants to take the reins and make moves, I would be willing to assist with what I have so far.

What about a 40% alps :eek:

And I remember the discussion in the username thread. ;)

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:00:13 »
But it is true that things get more attention and money if you stamp "SmallFry" on it, ethical or not.


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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:02:26 »
This is awesome jd! Good work so far bro :)

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:06:29 »
Yeahhh I'm gonna need one of these if there's ever a buy.  Nice work to all involved!

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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:08:13 »
I would love one of these things as well!  I love the ultra minimalist design :)
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« Reply #72 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:10:15 »
would like to do a run of these pcbs and a second run of gh60 pcbs at the same time, but this one is going to need some slight modification for pick and placed diodes and controller. also i'd like to unify the controller design with the gh60 so that the bom is the same (it is basically just a teensy OG).

this should keep costs down. i imagine the_beast's guy will do the steel, and i'm not sure how he scales at the moment. will chat about this with folks tomorrow.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #73 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:13:17 »
This is quite excellent, and sold or open-source, I know I would love one of these to pop into my laptop bag for on the move.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:30:18 »
would like to do a run of these pcbs and a second run of gh60 pcbs at the same time, but this one is going to need some slight modification for pick and placed diodes and controller. also i'd like to unify the controller design with the gh60 so that the bom is the same (it is basically just a teensy OG).

this should keep costs down. i imagine the_beast's guy will do the steel, and i'm not sure how he scales at the moment. will chat about this with folks tomorrow.

That would be awesome. The solder pads for the diodes are a just bit too small as the PCB exists today, but I didn't want to bug Regack with that. But pick-and-place with presoldered diodes and controller would definitely be the way to go for a GB-sized run.

Also, if The_Beast's guy doesn't work out for plates, WFD's guy can surely take an order if there is any kind of volume. We would just need to work up some kind of case design before plate dimensions are finalized. There are currently no holes in the PCB for standoff mounting (nor for PCB-mount stabs). :)
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« Reply #76 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:39:34 »
if we do a large enough run we could actually bring IMS (industrial metal supply) in. IMS is local to both WFD and i (actually about halfway between the two of us) and has and extremely nice 6-axis laser that can be used to bevel, chamfer and otherwise make this case work as cleanly as possible on very hard, very high strength alloys for a ridiculously solid feel to the board, despite its small size.

jdcarpe, do you know how regack feels about open sourcing his pcb design? (ugh, we really do need this geekhack OS-DEVICE license written yesterday...)

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 16 August 2013, 22:40:13 »
While I don't think I could ever find myself using one of these for actual typing, my god, does this concept look cool as hell!
I wouldn't mind getting one of these just to sit on my desk to look pretty  :)).

Perhaps for numbers and function keys, you could could replace the Windows Key as an Fn and
have Fn+(ASDF...Enter) as numbers (1-0) and Fn+(Esc...Del) as F1-F12?
Or maybe even a numpad-esque Fn layer (QWE, ASD, ZXC). Just a thought  :p.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 06:38:01 »
Petty neat little board jd.

jdcarpe, do you know how regack feels about open sourcing his pcb design? (ugh, we really do need this geekhack OS-DEVICE license written yesterday...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_hardware#Licenses

It would be like rewriting the gpl to publish code.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 06:50:12 »
I am really excited if this goes into production. I like to either have a full size (or ErgoDox) or something as small as possible so it is easy to carry.

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« Reply #80 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 08:49:14 »
Interesting! Tho I don't see the reason to include the right shift key...
Most people use left shift anyway, and as space is rare on this layout having double-keys seems a bit "uneconomical".
If the right shift key gets ditched we could have a 1.25 FN key on the right and one more 1x1 key next to it (ie. for ",").

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« Reply #81 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 08:51:01 »
I use both shift keys. Maybe not the full length of the right shift key but I do use it  :)
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« Reply #82 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:13:28 »
this is pretty cool JD.  i'd be in for one.
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« Reply #83 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:21:24 »
first picture symmetric staggering layout :))
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #84 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 09:41:10 »
I use both shift keys. Maybe not the full length of the right shift key but I do use it  :)

Fair enough...
Still I think having one more punctuation key (and a bigger FN key, as you have to make heavy use of it with such a low number of keys) would be better than the "luxury" of a second shift key.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 13:57:34 »
I love that the keyboard is called "The Smallfry" because that's what it is.

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« Reply #86 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 14:10:27 »
I could program a fn layer for my games...  :'( best day ever!!!
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« Reply #87 on: Sat, 17 August 2013, 14:39:17 »
It's so cute!  :eek:

If there's ever a GB, I might get one. Why not?  :p

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« Reply #88 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 05:23:59 »
I'll be making room in my budget for this little guy.

Also, to add to the discussion, I make HEAVY use of my right shift key, using it almost primarily, since I can hold it and still make use of my left pinky, so I only lose the ability to use shift + punctuation, which seems a significantly more rare occurrence for me.

That being said, I've be happy seeing it shortened to make space for a hardwired comma.


This keyboard design makes me want a laptop, but one without a keyboard on it. I'm thinking like. a Monitor on a stand, with all of the hardware in the monitor, but built for portability. Battery life, the whole shebang. Essentially a laptop, but closer to the desktop/monitor combos, just intended for portability.

Does this exist? OR can we make it exist? Anybody know enough about hardware, monitors and the like to help me make this happen? I'm happy working on the design portion.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 08:01:05 »
I'll be making room in my budget for this little guy.

Also, to add to the discussion, I make HEAVY use of my right shift key, using it almost primarily, since I can hold it and still make use of my left pinky, so I only lose the ability to use shift + punctuation, which seems a significantly more rare occurrence for me.

That being said, I've be happy seeing it shortened to make space for a hardwired comma.


This keyboard design makes me want a laptop, but one without a keyboard on it. I'm thinking like. a Monitor on a stand, with all of the hardware in the monitor, but built for portability. Battery life, the whole shebang. Essentially a laptop, but closer to the desktop/monitor combos, just intended for portability.

Does this exist? OR can we make it exist? Anybody know enough about hardware, monitors and the like to help me make this happen? I'm happy working on the design portion.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:24:16 »
last night I dreamed about this board

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:32:45 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.
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« Reply #92 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:35:18 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

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« Reply #93 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:40:54 »
Glad to see the 40% board get some new life.
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« Reply #94 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:43:37 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

Sell old cherry stuff then buy new cherry stuff?
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« Reply #95 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 16:46:23 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

Sell old cherry stuff then buy new cherry stuff?

or use old cherry stuff to build new cherry stuff :D

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:00:37 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

Sell old cherry stuff then buy new cherry stuff?

or use old cherry stuff to build new cherry stuff :D

exactly. i have some highly coveted vintage blacks waiting for a project. i was going to use them with the gh60 but... i already have a 60%
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:37:43 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

Sell old cherry stuff then buy new cherry stuff?

or use old cherry stuff to build new cherry stuff :D

exactly. i have some highly coveted vintage blacks waiting for a project. i was going to use them with the gh60 but... i already have a 60%

Do you agree that the vintages are better than new?
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:44:34 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

Sell old cherry stuff then buy new cherry stuff?

or use old cherry stuff to build new cherry stuff :D

exactly. i have some highly coveted vintage blacks waiting for a project. i was going to use them with the gh60 but... i already have a 60%

Do you agree that the vintages are better than new?

do you think nikes are better than reeboks?
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 19 August 2013, 17:45:04 »
hmm... everytime i get close to cleaning out my cherry stuff something like this comes along. i wannnnnt it.

I also wanted to get rid of my cherry stuff... and now this...

Sell old cherry stuff then buy new cherry stuff?

or use old cherry stuff to build new cherry stuff :D

exactly. i have some highly coveted vintage blacks waiting for a project. i was going to use them with the gh60 but... i already have a 60%

Do you agree that the vintages are better than new?

do you think nikes are better than reeboks?

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