Author Topic: The long journey of the WhiteFox (Read 358524 times)

Matt3o · « **Reply #500 on:** Fri, 05 February 2016, 08:14:47 »

there are a lot of things left to do for me. Time will fly!

romevi · « **Reply #501 on:** Fri, 05 February 2016, 09:44:55 »

And, before you know it, round 2 will be here!

Matt3o · « **Reply #502 on:** Fri, 05 February 2016, 10:28:52 »

Quote from: romevi on Fri, 05 February 2016, 09:44:55

And, before you know it, round 2 will be here!

gooold, oooh yeaah!

codywanks · « **Reply #503 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:30:06 »

Quote from: Matt3o on Sun, 31 January 2016, 07:53:26

yes, that might happen. They asked for permission which we gave. That doesn't mean that I am getting anything from those sales, just that they will sell clones from China with our permission instead of sell anyway without our permission.

Looks like the copies are out already:
Link #1
Link #2

Do these ship immediately or is there a wait involved? Can anyone here translate?

P.S. I'm not buying that sh*t, I already joined the official drop on MD

FLFisherman · « **Reply #504 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:53:04 »

Quote from: codywanks on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:30:06

Quote from: Matt3o on Sun, 31 January 2016, 07:53:26
yes, that might happen. They asked for permission which we gave. That doesn't mean that I am getting anything from those sales, just that they will sell clones from China with our permission instead of sell anyway without our permission.

Looks like the copies are out already:
Link #1
Link #2

Do these ship immediately or is there a wait involved? Can anyone here translate?

P.S. I'm not buying that sh*t, I already joined the official drop on MD

These are pretty much vendors working as a proxy to get the WhiteFox to customers in China. They'll order as many as they need from the actual group buy, and then distribute them to whoever buys one from their store.

So don't worry. It's not a copy.

Matt3o · « **Reply #505 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 08:20:07 »

Quote from: codywanks on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:30:06

Quote from: Matt3o on Sun, 31 January 2016, 07:53:26
yes, that might happen. They asked for permission which we gave. That doesn't mean that I am getting anything from those sales, just that they will sell clones from China with our permission instead of sell anyway without our permission.

Looks like the copies are out already:
Link #1
Link #2

Do these ship immediately or is there a wait involved? Can anyone here translate?

P.S. I'm not buying that sh*t, I already joined the official drop on MD

the keyboard is not ready, so they can't ship it yet.

Also: 1) they can't use the WF logo. 2) they can't use I:C logo. 3) they can't use our graphics/photos in general.

So yeah technically that is a rip off.

codywanks · « **Reply #506 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:12:49 »

Quote from: FLFisherman on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:53:04

These are pretty much vendors working as a proxy to get the WhiteFox to customers in China. They'll order as many as they need from the actual group buy, and then distribute them to whoever buys one from their store.

So don't worry. It's not a copy.

That's like me paying for 10 units from Massdrop and waiting for others to buy them off me (for what seems like a meagre profit)

Why couldn't the Chinese consumers get them directly from the MD GB?

FLFisherman · « **Reply #507 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:16:01 »

Quote from: codywanks on Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:12:49

Quote from: FLFisherman on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:53:04
These are pretty much vendors working as a proxy to get the WhiteFox to customers in China. They'll order as many as they need from the actual group buy, and then distribute them to whoever buys one from their store.

So don't worry. It's not a copy.

That's like me paying for 10 units from Massdrop and waiting for others to buy them off me (for what seems like a meagre profit)

Why couldn't the Chinese consumers get them directly from the MD GB?

They could, but shipping would eat them alive (I think).

It's better for a merchant/vendor to get a bulk order and then sell it to locals in China. There will be a markup, but I don't think it's as bad as getting an individual unit shipped. Might also have to do with ease of access or knowledge of the drop. Some people in China may not know about Massdrop or the fact that the WhiteFox is selling (was selling) there.

codywanks · « **Reply #508 on:** Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:17:34 »

Quote from: FLFisherman on Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:16:01

It's better for a merchant/vendor to get a bulk order and then sell it to locals in China. There will be a markup, but I don't think it's as bad as getting an individual unit shipped. Might also have to do with ease of access or knowledge of the drop. Some people in China may not know about Massdrop or the fact that the WhiteFox is selling (was selling) there.

good points

livingspeedbump · « **Reply #509 on:** Tue, 09 February 2016, 13:44:42 »

Quote from: FLFisherman on Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:16:01

Quote from: codywanks on Mon, 08 February 2016, 09:12:49
Quote from: FLFisherman on Mon, 08 February 2016, 07:53:04
These are pretty much vendors working as a proxy to get the WhiteFox to customers in China. They'll order as many as they need from the actual group buy, and then distribute them to whoever buys one from their store.

So don't worry. It's not a copy.

That's like me paying for 10 units from Massdrop and waiting for others to buy them off me (for what seems like a meagre profit)

Why couldn't the Chinese consumers get them directly from the MD GB?

They could, but shipping would eat them alive (I think).

It's better for a merchant/vendor to get a bulk order and then sell it to locals in China. There will be a markup, but I don't think it's as bad as getting an individual unit shipped. Might also have to do with ease of access or knowledge of the drop. Some people in China may not know about Massdrop or the fact that the WhiteFox is selling (was selling) there.

Yeah, this happens a lot too. China actually helps a lot of GBs out in this regard. Jukebox is on Tao Bao, for example. They bought quite a few units i believe.

swimmingbird · « **Reply #510 on:** Wed, 02 March 2016, 21:21:17 »

Is there a photo of the actual final pcb that is being used?

I ask because the photo of the pcb on MD doesn't show support for a stepped capslock despite matt3o saying that it does

codywanks · « **Reply #511 on:** Thu, 03 March 2016, 16:41:23 »

Hey matt3o, dumb question: How does one adjust the LED brightness on the Whitefox using FN+1 and FN+2?

I'm looking at the input.club configurator and can't really figure it out

SwissFTW · « **Reply #512 on:** Tue, 08 March 2016, 13:42:36 »

Any ETA on when the how-to assembly guide(s) will be available? I'm really interested to see how this bad boy gets assembled being this is my first time soldering (got a soldering iron coming in this week to start testing with).

dragonpower2000 · « **Reply #513 on:** Wed, 09 March 2016, 16:19:52 »

Any ideas on when round 2 will come?

Matt3o · « **Reply #514 on:** Thu, 10 March 2016, 00:11:14 »

possibly end of the year.

Spaceman1200 · « **Reply #515 on:** Thu, 10 March 2016, 10:24:51 »

Love this board, too bad i missed the GB due to bills

b0f0 · « **Reply #516 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 00:06:34 »

Hi,

I am also interested in buying the whitefox and I have a few questions.
Q1: Where are the "Home" key and "End" key on white fox how do you acceess those to keys, what do you normaly press ?
Q2: Where are or how to access F1 F2 F3 ...F12 keys ?
Q3: Is it possible to buy or order SLOVENIAN keyboard layout ?
Q4 (If Q3 not possible): IS it possible tu buy custum made keycaps, I have special letters in Slovenian that I would need ?
Q5: Is is possible to program or configure keys so that I get special Slovenian letters by pressing combinations like Fn+somthing=special Slovenian sign or Whitefox key + something = special slovenian sign?
Q6: IF Q3Q4Q5 are not an option is it possible to buy DE layout (German)
Q7: Is Assembled Whitefox keyboard by default illuminated ?

I would really be happy if somene gives answers to my questions.

Matt3o · « **Reply #517 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 01:17:57 »

Quote from: b0f0 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 00:06:34

Hi,

I am also interested in buying the whitefox and I have a few questions.
Q1: Where are the "Home" key and "End" key on white fox how do you acceess those to keys, what do you normaly press ?
Q2: Where are or how to access F1 F2 F3 ...F12 keys ?
Q3: Is it possible to buy or order SLOVENIAN keyboard layout ?
Q4 (If Q3 not possible): IS it possible tu buy custum made keycaps, I have special letters in Slovenian that I would need ?
Q5: Is is possible to program or configure keys so that I get special Slovenian letters by pressing combinations like Fn+somthing=special Slovenian sign or Whitefox key + something = special slovenian sign?
Q6: IF Q3Q4Q5 are not an option is it possible to buy DE layout (German)
Q7: Is Assembled Whitefox keyboard by default illuminated ?

I would really be happy if somene gives answers to my questions.

A1: FN+left, FN+right
A2: FN+1,2,3,4...
A3: yes, if your OS supports it
A4: no
A5: yes, if your OS supports Slovenian
A6: the keyboard supports any layout your OS does, but only ANSI keycaps are provided
A7: yes

b0f0 · « **Reply #518 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 02:00:32 »

Matt3o thank you for you fast and accurate answers.
My OS is Linux (Manjaro), it supports Slovenian layout. OK so I buy ANSI keycaps and then I can program each key the way I want it to be.

If I use Slovenian layout with ANSI keycaps this is going to be a mess, so what I would do then is I would reprogram each key.
So basicly I do it like this, I set OS to Slovenian layout that gives me special letter signs like ČŠŽ čšž.
Because of Slovenian layout the sign will be at different location on the keyboard,
This means the "&" sign will not be where ANSI keycap is show me. All other keys will be also different from what ANSI keycaps are showing so I would have to reprogram these keys .
I guess I could then program it so that I get the corrent signs matching ANSI keycap with its correct sign and also have the special signs letters from Slovenian layout.

Is this correct ?

by the way was White fox keyboard already used in LInux, are there any problems with it ?

Matt3o · « **Reply #519 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 02:33:32 »

the keyboard pretty much works out of the box, just set your OS to slovenian layout. of course some of the symbols/letters won't match, you'd need to find a slovenian keyset (I don't know where you can get it, sorry, maybe some old Cherry keyboard).

I'm using the whitefox on linux since a couple of months now

b0f0 · « **Reply #520 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 12:53:45 »

When will be the next drop available for whitefox ?
There is 1711 requests including mine, this is good.
I am still thinking which tactile switch to choose, I have MX reds and now I am thinking of buying MX Clears or Zealio purple 67.
Will massdrop offer more switch options for the next drop ? LIke Matias Quiet Click ?

romevi · « **Reply #521 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 14:31:40 »

Quote from: b0f0 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 12:53:45

When will be the next drop available for whitefox ?

Quote from: Matt3o on Thu, 10 March 2016, 00:11:14

possibly end of the year.

flabbergast · « **Reply #522 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 14:38:51 »

Quote from: b0f0 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 12:53:45

Will massdrop offer more switch options for the next drop ? LIke Matias Quiet Click ?

The WhiteFox PCB does not support ALPS/Matias switches. They would need to make a new PCB, plus new plates. I'd count this as unlikely.

codywanks · « **Reply #523 on:** Fri, 11 March 2016, 15:21:31 »

Quote from: Matt3o on Fri, 11 March 2016, 01:17:57

Quote from: b0f0 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 00:06:34
Q1: Where are the "Home" key and "End" key on white fox how do you acceess those to keys, what do you normaly press ?
Q2: Where are or how to access F1 F2 F3 ...F12 keys ?

A1: FN+left, FN+right
A2: FN+1,2,3,4...

Hey Matt3o, is there a list of the default settings for the FN key? e.g. FN+Left = Home and so on

Also, how do I change FN+1 from F1 to LED+ (or is there no simple way to explain this)?

Matt3o · « **Reply #524 on:** Sat, 12 March 2016, 01:04:30 »

the keyboard can be reprogrammed in any way you want from the online configurator http://configurator.input.club/

Geekmie · « **Reply #525 on:** Sat, 12 March 2016, 08:06:34 »

Will be nice if the next version supports built-in underglow. 😆

ideus · « **Reply #526 on:** Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:00:43 »

Quote from: Geekmie on Sat, 12 March 2016, 08:06:34

Will be nice if the next version supports built-in underglow. 😆

??

It does not make much sense to include under-glow that will be completely blocked in a keyboard with a closed aluminum case.

Geekmie · « **Reply #527 on:** Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:04:11 »

Quote from: ideus on Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:00:43

Quote from: Geekmie on Sat, 12 March 2016, 08:06:34
Will be nice if the next version supports built-in underglow. 😆

??

It does not make much sense to include under-glow that will be completely blocked in a keyboard with a closed aluminum case.

Make an acrylic diffuse layer then I guess. It's always nice to have the capability and people can choose to turn it on or not. Hope this makes sense

ideus · « **Reply #528 on:** Sat, 12 March 2016, 11:31:53 »

Quote from: Geekmie on Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:04:11

Quote from: ideus on Sat, 12 March 2016, 10:00:43
Quote from: Geekmie on Sat, 12 March 2016, 08:06:34
Will be nice if the next version supports built-in underglow. 😆

??

It does not make much sense to include under-glow that will be completely blocked in a keyboard with a closed aluminum case.
Make an acrylic diffuse layer then I guess. It's always nice to have the capability and people can choose to turn it on or not. Hope this makes sense

Well, if you alter the design of the Fox, then everything is possible, again, if the intent is to use it as designed there is no reason to illuminate the interior of a non transparent case.

piemancoder · « **Reply #529 on:** Tue, 15 March 2016, 20:57:49 »

Quote from: Matt3o on Fri, 11 March 2016, 01:17:57

Quote from: b0f0 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 00:06:34
Hi,

I am also interested in buying the whitefox and I have a few questions.
Q1: Where are the "Home" key and "End" key on white fox how do you acceess those to keys, what do you normaly press ?
Q2: Where are or how to access F1 F2 F3 ...F12 keys ?
Q3: Is it possible to buy or order SLOVENIAN keyboard layout ?
Q4 (If Q3 not possible): IS it possible tu buy custum made keycaps, I have special letters in Slovenian that I would need ?
Q5: Is is possible to program or configure keys so that I get special Slovenian letters by pressing combinations like Fn+somthing=special Slovenian sign or Whitefox key + something = special slovenian sign?
Q6: IF Q3Q4Q5 are not an option is it possible to buy DE layout (German)
Q7: Is Assembled Whitefox keyboard by default illuminated ?

I would really be happy if somene gives answers to my questions.

A1: FN+left, FN+right
A2: FN+1,2,3,4...
A3: yes, if your OS supports it
A4: no
A5: yes, if your OS supports Slovenian
A6: the keyboard supports any layout your OS does, but only ANSI keycaps are provided
A7: yes

I think WASD keyboards can do custom keycaps, but I'm not sure. You would have to ask them.

eksuen · « **Reply #530 on:** Wed, 16 March 2016, 12:38:04 »

Quote from: piemancoder on Tue, 15 March 2016, 20:57:49

Quote from: Matt3o on Fri, 11 March 2016, 01:17:57
Quote from: b0f0 on Fri, 11 March 2016, 00:06:34
Hi,

I am also interested in buying the whitefox and I have a few questions.
Q1: Where are the "Home" key and "End" key on white fox how do you acceess those to keys, what do you normaly press ?
Q2: Where are or how to access F1 F2 F3 ...F12 keys ?
Q3: Is it possible to buy or order SLOVENIAN keyboard layout ?
Q4 (If Q3 not possible): IS it possible tu buy custum made keycaps, I have special letters in Slovenian that I would need ?
Q5: Is is possible to program or configure keys so that I get special Slovenian letters by pressing combinations like Fn+somthing=special Slovenian sign or Whitefox key + something = special slovenian sign?
Q6: IF Q3Q4Q5 are not an option is it possible to buy DE layout (German)
Q7: Is Assembled Whitefox keyboard by default illuminated ?

I would really be happy if somene gives answers to my questions.

A1: FN+left, FN+right
A2: FN+1,2,3,4...
A3: yes, if your OS supports it
A4: no
A5: yes, if your OS supports Slovenian
A6: the keyboard supports any layout your OS does, but only ANSI keycaps are provided
A7: yes

I think WASD keyboards can do custom keycaps, but I'm not sure. You would have to ask them.

WASD can make custom keycaps. They are printed (and UV coated) so the legends will wear off with heavy usage, but because they are printed, you can have any custom icon/legend you want, in pretty much any color(s) you want, on any and all keys you want. The color of the keycaps themselves, however, is limited to WASD's selection.

yoobe · « **Reply #531 on:** Sun, 15 May 2016, 10:24:18 »

Hi Matt3o

Is there any opensource project for the firmware? I would like to configure my own macros (copy/paste/cut).
With the configurator it is not possible.

Thanks

joey · « **Reply #532 on:** Sun, 15 May 2016, 10:31:36 »

Quote from: yoobe on Sun, 15 May 2016, 10:24:18

Hi Matt3o

Is there any opensource project for the firmware? I would like to configure my own macros (copy/paste/cut).
With the configurator it is not possible.

Thanks

https://github.com/kiibohd/controller

bmilcs · « **Reply #533 on:** Sun, 15 May 2016, 12:09:51 »

Incredible work my man. I wish I had your talent!

MythicalWagyu · « **Reply #534 on:** Thu, 19 May 2016, 13:34:50 »

Matt3o · « **Reply #535 on:** Tue, 24 May 2016, 12:51:16 »

post pictures!

STARLORDCOFFEE · « **Reply #536 on:** Tue, 24 May 2016, 14:30:42 »

Quote from: Matt3o on Tue, 24 May 2016, 12:51:16

post pictures!

Pease do post pictures. I want to see at least one happy customer while I wait for mine lol

Brammm87 · « **Reply #537 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 07:50:39 »

Oh ****, you lucky mother****er.

HoffmanMyster · « **Reply #538 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 10:26:02 »

Mine showed up last night. Now I just need a second to open it, take some pics, and assemble it.

)

codywanks · « **Reply #539 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 14:14:17 »

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 May 2016, 10:26:02

Mine showed up last night. Now I just need a second to open it, take some pics, and assemble it, and take some pics again

romevi · « **Reply #540 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 15:32:20 »

Quote from: codywanks on Wed, 25 May 2016, 14:14:17

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 May 2016, 10:26:02
Mine showed up last night. Now I just need a second to open it, take some pics, and assemble it, and take some pics again again.

HoffmanMyster · « **Reply #541 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 16:42:00 »

That packaging though...

WhiteFox by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

ideus · « **Reply #542 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 17:16:35 »

Very well designed packaging materials, awesome.

cmb5286 · « **Reply #543 on:** Wed, 25 May 2016, 19:43:52 »

Man I am really hoping they do another run. I'd love to put one together.

dannrawr · « **Reply #544 on:** Thu, 26 May 2016, 02:47:34 »

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 May 2016, 16:42:00

That packaging though...

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WhiteFox by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

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WhiteFox by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

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WhiteFox by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

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WhiteFox by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

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WhiteFox by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

+1 that poison

yomammary · « **Reply #545 on:** Thu, 26 May 2016, 07:51:05 »

Quote from: cmb5286 on Wed, 25 May 2016, 19:43:52

Man I am really hoping they do another run. I'd love to put one together.

Yeah same here, I don't understand why I didn't buy one...

MythicalWagyu · « **Reply #546 on:** Thu, 26 May 2016, 17:24:03 »

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 25 May 2016, 16:42:00

That packaging though...

It's sooooo nice, such a joy to open!

☑ White Fox
☑ Zealios (62g tactile)
☑ LEDs (sky blue)
☑ Soldering iron
☑ GMK Hyperfuse
☑ Bonus USB cable
Pictures - soon^{^_TM}

Let the fun begin

thaddeus · « **Reply #547 on:** Fri, 27 May 2016, 11:45:07 »

My first keyboard build! I've got R1 65g Zealios on this vixen. I only had access to a 100/140W soldering gun, so I was really careful about contact time with the components. I had one or two switch bottoms get a little bit melted, but seems like they switches are still hitting just fine.

The quality of the case/plate/pcb is...well it's blowing all of my expectations out of the water. I love the weight and texture of the case, and everything fits together flush. So glad I stuck around the GB for this keyboard. Next steps are to flash the firmware with my own keyboard layout.

Matt3o, thank you SO much for organizing this project. I hope you are proud, because I am definitely gloating about this board to all of my coworkers, muahaha.

Matt3o · « **Reply #548 on:** Fri, 27 May 2016, 16:51:19 »

Quote from: thaddeus on Fri, 27 May 2016, 11:45:07

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Matt3o, thank you SO much for organizing this project. I hope you are proud, because I am definitely gloating about this board to all of my coworkers, muahaha.

fantastic build thaddeus and thanks! I really appreciate your words

xondat · « **Reply #549 on:** Sat, 28 May 2016, 05:46:14 »

It's nice to see them finally arriving.

The packaging is #goals.

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Author Topic: The long journey of the WhiteFox (Read 358524 times)