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I'm just saying that as unrealistic expectations go, asking SP for the same volume discounts that MassDrop gets is sort of a doozy.
In all seriousness I would pay the premium if we had these made. And I would pay the same premium if it was all Row3 French made. I also feel like this entire head showcases that SP has a strong grip on the community which I would love to break somehow.
Yeah, honestly at this point, I think Massdrop would be the way to move this forward. Maybe if you contact whoever is in charge of keycap buys there, they would work with you. I think PMK would be out, because of PuLSE R2.
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:53:34Yeah, honestly at this point, I think Massdrop would be the way to move this forward. Maybe if you contact whoever is in charge of keycap buys there, they would work with you. I think PMK would be out, because of PuLSE R2.Massdrop is doing PuLSE R2, not PMK, so PMK would be the better bet for sure
Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:14:52Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:53:34Yeah, honestly at this point, I think Massdrop would be the way to move this forward. Maybe if you contact whoever is in charge of keycap buys there, they would work with you. I think PMK would be out, because of PuLSE R2.Massdrop is doing PuLSE R2, not PMK, so PMK would be the better bet for sure I thought Signature Plastics produces the keycaps for Massdrop? I also though Signature Plastics initially designed SA profile caps?
Quote from: FLFisherman on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:20:29Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:14:52Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 27 January 2016, 20:53:34Yeah, honestly at this point, I think Massdrop would be the way to move this forward. Maybe if you contact whoever is in charge of keycap buys there, they would work with you. I think PMK would be out, because of PuLSE R2.Massdrop is doing PuLSE R2, not PMK, so PMK would be the better bet for sure I thought Signature Plastics produces the keycaps for Massdrop? I also though Signature Plastics initially designed SA profile caps?I think the details have been covered in the last 15 pages dude, let's not restart the conversation from square one.
I don't know how anyone would feel about this but what about the same colourway in a different profile? There is such an over saturation of nice SA sets already being it seems all that comes out of SP is SA and DSA, any reason DCS gets no love any more ?
Quote from: kiwi99 on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:35:28I don't know how anyone would feel about this but what about the same colourway in a different profile? There is such an over saturation of nice SA sets already being it seems all that comes out of SP is SA and DSA, any reason DCS gets no love any more ?I've heard complaints that DCS is too thin from some users
Quote from: kiwi99 on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:35:28I don't know how anyone would feel about this but what about the same colourway in a different profile? There is such an over saturation of nice SA sets already being it seems all that comes out of SP is SA and DSA, any reason DCS gets no love any more ?Because GMK has drastically reduced MOQ, JTK is on scene know, and SP's DCS is very thin. If they would revisit the trend of caps right now and make new molds with the exact same outside shape and profile, but thicker, I am positive they would see a good amount more sales.
why does my samurai sound like Japanese Batman?
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:42:52Quote from: kiwi99 on Wed, 27 January 2016, 21:35:28I don't know how anyone would feel about this but what about the same colourway in a different profile? There is such an over saturation of nice SA sets already being it seems all that comes out of SP is SA and DSA, any reason DCS gets no love any more ?Because GMK has drastically reduced MOQ, JTK is on scene know, and SP's DCS is very thin. If they would revisit the trend of caps right now and make new molds with the exact same outside shape and profile, but thicker, I am positive they would see a good amount more sales.Does anyone know if they still have the old WYSE molds? At least I think it was them (or a former parent company or such) that made those. If they offered those it would be a great option. Depending on the cost of course. )
I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buy
Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GH
Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHWell it is the best profile so...
Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHI love SA caps, but for all my "real" work I really do pretty much only use Cherry or Topre profile caps.
Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys.
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...
What about Devlin? Dont they take orders like this?Their K profile looks pretty cool. High-profiled, spherical, thick, doubleshot, etc. Missing molds?Show Image
Quote from: Lepidus on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:20:46What about Devlin? Dont they take orders like this?Their K profile looks pretty cool. High-profiled, spherical, thick, doubleshot, etc. Missing molds?Show ImageWho? Have a website?
Quote from: Lepidus on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:20:46What about Devlin? Dont they take orders like this?Their K profile looks pretty cool. High-profiled, spherical, thick, doubleshot, etc. Missing molds?Show ImageWhen I last talked to Devlin, they would only work with QWERkeys and any custom sets had to go through QWERkeys. I have no clue if that changed.
Here is another UK company make 'SA' keycaps.http://www.devlin.co.uk/products/components/keycaps.htmlShow Image
Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not.
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:17:21Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not. That is all just in the hands of the designer though. With GMK MOQ its usually just not as viable, but still definitely possible.
Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:37:22Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:17:21Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not. That is all just in the hands of the designer though. With GMK MOQ its usually just not as viable, but still definitely possible.But more expensive then using a flat/uniform profile cap though. I mention this because apparently everyone is hung up on the price.
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:39:12Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:37:22Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:17:21Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not. That is all just in the hands of the designer though. With GMK MOQ its usually just not as viable, but still definitely possible.But more expensive then using a flat/uniform profile cap though. I mention this because apparently everyone is hung up on the price.Again, Id personally consider that more of a design thing though. Profile is probably the largest factor when it comes to a set, with sculpted and non sculpted profiles really being two totally different animals. Personally, this is what has made Granite so popular for example. There is nothing groundbreaking about the set, but it fits nearly every damn keyboard out there at this point. But compared to many other sculpted sets (Cherry or SA, DCS, whatever) it just doesn't feel as good to many people. I don't think that flat profiles look nearly as good on keyboards as sculpted profiles do either.
But what if you could have a sculpted profile with uniform profile caps?
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:48:22But what if you could have a sculpted profile with uniform profile caps?so buckling spring?
Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:46:57Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:39:12Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:37:22Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:17:21Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not. That is all just in the hands of the designer though. With GMK MOQ its usually just not as viable, but still definitely possible.But more expensive then using a flat/uniform profile cap though. I mention this because apparently everyone is hung up on the price.Again, Id personally consider that more of a design thing though. Profile is probably the largest factor when it comes to a set, with sculpted and non sculpted profiles really being two totally different animals. Personally, this is what has made Granite so popular for example. There is nothing groundbreaking about the set, but it fits nearly every damn keyboard out there at this point. But compared to many other sculpted sets (Cherry or SA, DCS, whatever) it just doesn't feel as good to many people. I don't think that flat profiles look nearly as good on keyboards as sculpted profiles do either.But what if you could have a sculpted profile with uniform profile caps?
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:48:22Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:46:57Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:39:12Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:37:22Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:17:21Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not. That is all just in the hands of the designer though. With GMK MOQ its usually just not as viable, but still definitely possible.But more expensive then using a flat/uniform profile cap though. I mention this because apparently everyone is hung up on the price.Again, Id personally consider that more of a design thing though. Profile is probably the largest factor when it comes to a set, with sculpted and non sculpted profiles really being two totally different animals. Personally, this is what has made Granite so popular for example. There is nothing groundbreaking about the set, but it fits nearly every damn keyboard out there at this point. But compared to many other sculpted sets (Cherry or SA, DCS, whatever) it just doesn't feel as good to many people. I don't think that flat profiles look nearly as good on keyboards as sculpted profiles do either.But what if you could have a sculpted profile with uniform profile caps?Huh? By sculpted, in my phrasing, I having different size keys for different rows, like many of these sets (Dsa and KT are the only non-sculpted profiles)Show Image Not sculpted as a singular cap. For example 1976 was all R3, and was not a sculpted set, where Jukebox was rows 1-1-2-3-4-4 and was sculpted :)
Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:51:31Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:48:22Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:46:57Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:39:12Quote from: livingspeedbump on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:37:22Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:17:21Quote from: f1xedgear on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:16:18Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:13:10Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:10:46Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:09:20Quote from: swimmingbird on Wed, 27 January 2016, 22:06:51I never thought I would say this but it looks like with the lowered GMK MOQs and now this it looks like GMK might actually become the go-to company when it comes to custom keysetsThe fact that they are starting to do custom legends is also a big deal - if we could hit something like 250 orders for a buy with a new legend it would add something like $20 to the cost of each buyThe problem with GMK is Cherry profile only as far as I know. Personally it doesn't wow me at all.It is without saying though probably the most popular profile on GHThis may be, but it doesn't allow for other layouts such as Dvorak, Colemak, etc without purchasing extra keys. Well, sculpted SA is no different...While this is true, the point I was making is SP at least offers those options, GMK does not. That is all just in the hands of the designer though. With GMK MOQ its usually just not as viable, but still definitely possible.But more expensive then using a flat/uniform profile cap though. I mention this because apparently everyone is hung up on the price.Again, Id personally consider that more of a design thing though. Profile is probably the largest factor when it comes to a set, with sculpted and non sculpted profiles really being two totally different animals. Personally, this is what has made Granite so popular for example. There is nothing groundbreaking about the set, but it fits nearly every damn keyboard out there at this point. But compared to many other sculpted sets (Cherry or SA, DCS, whatever) it just doesn't feel as good to many people. I don't think that flat profiles look nearly as good on keyboards as sculpted profiles do either.But what if you could have a sculpted profile with uniform profile caps?Huh? By sculpted, in my phrasing, I having different size keys for different rows, like many of these sets (Dsa and KT are the only non-sculpted profiles)Show Image Not sculpted as a singular cap. For example 1976 was all R3, and was not a sculpted set, where Jukebox was rows 1-1-2-3-4-4 and was sculpted :)I understand that, but I am going to be designing a keyboard that will give you the curved top/sculpted look and feel while using row 3 SA or DSA Think curved plate for MX
Just trying something new. This is still a go, right? ...right? Show Image
looking into Massdrop but not sure. definitely not a go with these prices. Thank you for your work though these renders look so good I want to make it a reality for everyone