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[IC] Noxary X75
« on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 19:23:50 »
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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 20:36:13 »
Any chance this could come with polished steel weight?

I will probably be interested in this since I have to miss x60

The price point of the x60 was a bit higher than what I'm comfortable with at this point, but whose to say in a few months.   I assume this would cost a bit more just in the added material and machining

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 20:44:26 »
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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 21:57:38 »
Is that second model meant to fit a true fox? That's pretty sweet.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 08 October 2016, 23:19:03 »
Im assuming you designed it around the WKL b.mini pcb? Add option for a milled polycarb bottom piece for the B.mini x2 rgb leds to shine!

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 00:19:42 »
Is that second model meant to fit a true fox? That's pretty sweet.

Going to look something like it yeah :)
Looks kinda big thou?


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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 00:23:05 »
I would like to se the bottom row layout possibilities @xondat with the blocker-option. Cant wrap my head around it really.

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« Reply #7 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 02:07:54 »
I'm interested  ^-^

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« Reply #8 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 02:36:50 »
If you ever come out with a 40% :D

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 03:05:05 »
Count me in for the "WKL" layout

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 03:23:57 »
looks good. would buy if i decide to purchase more in the foreseen future.

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 06:36:16 »
Is that second model meant to fit a true fox? That's pretty sweet.

The TrueFox is a 65% while this will be a 75% with a proper F-row.

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 06:55:34 »
Is that second model meant to fit a true fox? That's pretty sweet.
Whitefox is 65%, but if you mean the blocker then it will be similar.

Any chance this could come with polished steel weight?

I will probably be interested in this since I have to miss x60

The price point of the x60 was a bit higher than what I'm comfortable with at this point, but whose to say in a few months.   I assume this would cost a bit more just in the added material and machining
Probably will have a polish steel weight, but not sure how to pull it off again.

Price point will be lower, but it depends on the quantity.

Im assuming you designed it around the WKL b.mini pcb? Add option for a milled polycarb bottom piece for the B.mini x2 rgb leds to shine!
Correct, I'm not sure if I should get my own PCB developed (but I will be for the future). The polycarbonate bottom piece won't happen as it wouldn't match the top, but I'm not sure (yet).

I would like to se the bottom row layout possibilities @xondat with the blocker-option. Cant wrap my head around it really.


Of course you can combine the two bottom rows. The red 1u represents the blocker.

If you ever come out with a 40% :D
Well it would be the heaviest 40% yet...

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 08:05:31 »
Im assuming you designed it around the WKL b.mini pcb? Add option for a milled polycarb bottom piece for the B.mini x2 rgb leds to shine!
Correct, I'm not sure if I should get my own PCB developed (but I will be for the future). The polycarbonate bottom piece won't happen as it wouldn't match the top, but I'm not sure (yet).

i want polycarb bottom piece too for rgb underlight :p

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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 09 October 2016, 17:09:34 »
This is really nice, if I can afford it when you run the GB I'll pick one up  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 07:13:06 »
I'm in  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 07:23:01 »
I would be interested in this as well!
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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 08:23:21 »
Interested if I end up having enough bux :D
   
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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 09:52:26 »
Im assuming you designed it around the WKL b.mini pcb? Add option for a milled polycarb bottom piece for the B.mini x2 rgb leds to shine!
Correct, I'm not sure if I should get my own PCB developed (but I will be for the future). The polycarbonate bottom piece won't happen as it wouldn't match the top, but I'm not sure (yet).

i want polycarb bottom piece too for rgb underlight :p

it looks cool man, but it feels not as good.  Had the orion to prove it

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[IC] X75
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 10:32:12 »
Not a fan of polycarbonate bottom either,
but I could imagine polycarb plates to be interesting.

Makes more sense on PCBs that allow for top mounted smd leds tho I guess.

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 11:41:20 »
I'm honestly not a fan of LEDs but I have to appeal to a wider target audience. I might create a form soon and get some info regarding lights etc.

Polycarbonate plates are something I should test, but I'm not sure I feel about them being at maximum 2.5mm thick.

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 11:55:05 »
I'm honestly not a fan of LEDs but I have to appeal to a wider target audience. I might create a form soon and get some info regarding lights etc.

Polycarbonate plates are something I should test, but I'm not sure I feel about them being at maximum 2.5mm thick.

Totally understand xondat and I would very much respect your choice of sticking with quality materials vs adding leds.

Im usually a white leds if any kind of guy.
Hate all that rgb gamer looking stuff popping up everywhere.


On the other hand I do have a gon crystal with white leds, and prefer top smd over in switch leds.


Pretty sure the plate isn't thicker then 2.5mm either and it's actually pretty rigid while still giving a slightly softer feel.

Pretty sure the plate itself would be strong enough but I'm concerned about the attachments points.

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:36:08 »
You know Im prolly in for this bb  :-*

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« Reply #23 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:37:13 »
I love xondats concept for custom keyboards. If you have a great idea, don't water it down to make it appealing to everyone but stick to your concept and make something special instead. Chunky aluminium keyboards just don't go well with RGB underlight. If you want light under your keyboard, get a light keyboard ;)

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« Reply #24 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 12:43:42 »
I love xondats concept for custom keyboards. If you have a great idea, don't water it down to make it appealing to everyone but stick to your concept and make something special instead. Chunky aluminium keyboards just don't go well with RGB underlight. If you want light under your keyboard, get a light keyboard ;)
I am working on a different series of boards which will incorporate LEDs much better than this, it's probably one of the reasons I want to keep this one pure.

Totally understand xondat and I would very much respect your choice of sticking with quality materials vs adding leds.
Im usually a white leds if any kind of guy.
Hate all that rgb gamer looking stuff popping up everywhere.

Pretty sure the plate isn't thicker then 2.5mm either and it's actually pretty rigid while still giving a slightly softer feel.
Pretty sure the plate itself would be strong enough but I'm concerned about the attachments points.
See above :)) I agree with you though, diffusers are cool n all but I prefer the aesthetic of pure aluminium.

I think the attachments should be more than enough, they're very study (but I've never handled polycarbonate that detailed before so I'm not sure).

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 10 October 2016, 13:02:27 »
Agree with wodan here, in-switch LEDs are fine for me but I don't really like the glowy RGB stuff.
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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 08:09:24 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.





Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?


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« Reply #27 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 08:11:19 »
Love it. If ANSIs can have ANSI, let ISOs have ISO ;)


What do you think of this bit on the plates?

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No biggie on SS plates, aluminium might be a little thin there.
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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 08:12:20 »
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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 08:13:58 »
Going to be so nice, xondat. Love your design and I hope I will have the funds to make this my first 75% board. :thumb:

What PCBs have you given thought to sourcing for this or is it too early on?
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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 08:16:21 »
that small section near the left alt seems a bit like it will break easily
I get what you mean but through personal experience it seems fine given the use. It's just over 1mm at the thinnest point.



What PCBs have you given thought to sourcing for this or is it too early on?
Most likely winkeyless as I can't have my own made quick enough, but I will have my own made that will support this in the future.

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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 13:11:25 »
I've been wanting a 75% board.  I'll be watching this one.

As an outside possibility, can the PCB be put in backwards to allow built-in negative tilt?  If not, I'll just stick to putting the front up on a wrist rest as I've been doing.

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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 13:27:03 »
I've been wanting a 75% board.  I'll be watching this one.

As an outside possibility, can the PCB be put in backwards to allow built-in negative tilt?  If not, I'll just stick to putting the front up on a wrist rest as I've been doing.
Never heard of that before... No, because the USB port would have to be on both sides to allow for that.

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 11 October 2016, 13:56:07 »
Looking forward to this. Love the dual layer case design. With it being dual layer I would love to see a acrylic spacer used for a diffuser in between the two like the Mech27 or ZZ's that have been done.

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« Reply #34 on: Wed, 12 October 2016, 15:12:24 »
Man, that looks sharp. Definitely keeping an eye on this one after missing out on the x60.
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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 13 October 2016, 15:52:40 »
I've been wanting a 75% board.  I'll be watching this one.

As an outside possibility, can the PCB be put in backwards to allow built-in negative tilt?  If not, I'll just stick to putting the front up on a wrist rest as I've been doing.
Never heard of that before... No, because the USB port would have to be on both sides to allow for that.

Ahhh, good point.  I can keep doing the wrist rest for the negative tilt.  A 75% is high on the keyboard priority list for me so definitely watching this one with interest.

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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 15 October 2016, 18:57:03 »
Prototype will go into production on Monday! :thumb:

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 15 October 2016, 19:01:40 »
Good stuff. Looking forward to this.

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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 15 October 2016, 20:54:43 »
You can count me in for this as well.

Love the simplicity.
Love the 75%

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 19 October 2016, 20:50:03 »
Good to hear, Xon.

Estimated time for GB? Q1 2017?

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« Reply #40 on: Sun, 30 October 2016, 14:59:14 »
count me in also

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« Reply #41 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 09:26:22 »
I'm in!

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« Reply #42 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 10:00:16 »
Estimated time for GB? Q1 2017?
Hopefully a small release soon, December.

Prototype is in production and is shipping with X60 :p

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« Reply #43 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 18:26:53 »
I need to try my hand at 75% with this board. The X60 prototype looks very nice.

Just for confirmation, would the 1.25u 1.25u 1.25u 6.25u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u bottom row be possible with the un-blocked case upper half?

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 18:34:53 »
I need to try my hand at 75% with this board. The X60 prototype looks very nice.

Just for confirmation, would the 1.25u 1.25u 1.25u 6.25u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u bottom row be possible with the un-blocked case upper half?

I'm pretty sure that's possible based on WKL's layout support image (assuming xondat is using the B.mini X2



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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #45 on: Thu, 03 November 2016, 19:36:55 »
I need to try my hand at 75% with this board. The X60 prototype looks very nice.

Just for confirmation, would the 1.25u 1.25u 1.25u 6.25u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u bottom row be possible with the un-blocked case upper half?

I'm pretty sure that's possible based on WKL's layout support image (assuming xondat is using the B.mini X2

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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 04:28:49 »
I love everything about this. Keep it metal, keep it simple like you envisioned. No need for LEDs or things like that, that's just my opinion. The board speaks for itself. This will be another addition to my 75% collection (my favorite layout) and you can count me in, even you do a smaller group buy at first due to the Holidays.

Is this the best thread to keep track of when you launch the GB? This is not one I want to miss.  :thumb:

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 06:07:36 »
I'm interested this keyboard  ;D
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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 04 November 2016, 08:09:52 »
Is this the best thread to keep track of when you launch the GB? This is not one I want to miss.  :thumb:
Yeah this is the best place, I'll definitely be posting pictures of the prototype when I get it. Other projects will be posted in my thread in "Making Stuff Together", including X65.

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« Reply #49 on: Sat, 05 November 2016, 14:14:50 »
I need to try my hand at 75% with this board. The X60 prototype looks very nice.

Just for confirmation, would the 1.25u 1.25u 1.25u 6.25u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u 1u bottom row be possible with the un-blocked case upper half?

I'm pretty sure that's possible based on WKL's layout support image (assuming xondat is using the B.mini X2

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Correct.

Great, thanks!

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« Reply #50 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 06:15:54 »
Will the anodized aluminum plate be billet or cast aluminum? If you're still taking feedback/input I personally prefer billet.
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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 06:32:03 »
Will the anodized aluminum plate be billet or cast aluminum? If you're still taking feedback/input I personally prefer billet.

Most likely laser/waterjet cut (or slightly less likely: milled plates). You do not, generally speaking, spend the capital to produce dies/moulds for components that are not produced by the 10000s of units. This is not something that your preference will make a difference, it's just basic manufacturing selection. Unless you're producing A LOT of components, it's never going to be made by casting.
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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 13:04:48 »
Will the anodized aluminum plate be billet or cast aluminum? If you're still taking feedback/input I personally prefer billet.

Most likely laser/waterjet cut (or slightly less likely: milled plates). You do not, generally speaking, spend the capital to produce dies/moulds for components that are not produced by the 10000s of units. This is not something that your preference will make a difference, it's just basic manufacturing selection. Unless you're producing A LOT of components, it's never going to be made by casting.

Thanks for the info. I dug into this a little more and learned a few more things. I think I was confused on terminology but what I was ultimately getting at was the finished texture and the way the plate feels. Like for example on my WhiteFox, the body of the keyboard and those generic cone feet sold all the time on Massdrop that came with it have different textures. Even the plate on my RS84 has a unique texture - I guess I'm not quite really sure what to call it or what ultimately makes a difference in each of those pieces of aluminum having different finished textures.
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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 14:41:38 »
Will the anodized aluminum plate be billet or cast aluminum? If you're still taking feedback/input I personally prefer billet.

Most likely laser/waterjet cut (or slightly less likely: milled plates). You do not, generally speaking, spend the capital to produce dies/moulds for components that are not produced by the 10000s of units. This is not something that your preference will make a difference, it's just basic manufacturing selection. Unless you're producing A LOT of components, it's never going to be made by casting.

Thanks for the info. I dug into this a little more and learned a few more things. I think I was confused on terminology but what I was ultimately getting at was the finished texture and the way the plate feels. Like for example on my WhiteFox, the body of the keyboard and those generic cone feet sold all the time on Massdrop that came with it have different textures. Even the plate on my RS84 has a unique texture - I guess I'm not quite really sure what to call it or what ultimately makes a difference in each of those pieces of aluminum having different finished textures.

The term for that is surface finishing. This can be anodising/powdercoat/airbrushed/wirebrushed/polished/sandblasted, a wealth of options out there. Xondat will be able to clarify exactly what surface finish operations he plans to have done on the plates for this project. If I'm not wrong, the X60 comes with either Al plates which come anodised, or CFRP plates which I don't know if they have any post process/surface finishes applied.
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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #54 on: Sun, 06 November 2016, 15:04:54 »
Aluminium is sandblasted then anodised. Stainless steel plates are brushed. Brass and stainless steel weights are polished. Carbon fibre is coated in a clear protective layer.

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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 08 November 2016, 18:28:07 »
I'd be interested.

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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 10 November 2016, 02:58:57 »
Aluminium is sandblasted then anodised. Stainless steel plates are brushed. Brass and stainless steel weights are polished. Carbon fibre is coated in a clear protective layer.

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Xon, any idea what the most popular color configuration was on the x60?

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« Reply #57 on: Thu, 10 November 2016, 04:42:18 »
Any idea what the most popular color configuration was on the x60?
Not sure about combination, but Dark Gray cases were the most popular and Stainless Steel/Red plates tied.

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« Reply #58 on: Tue, 15 November 2016, 16:42:52 »
Updated my Making Stuff Together thread, which you can read here. This is regarding my future releases; how, what, when etc.

X65 will come before X75, just confirming some information before I officially start a thread or something.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 07:58:27 »
Bumping this due to the recent amounts of 65% keyboards. It would make no sense to release another 65%, therefore it is likely this will come first. I'm thinking March 1st for now. All information here is up to date as of today.

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« Reply #60 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 08:28:18 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

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Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

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The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 09:48:00 »
Bumping this due to the recent amounts of 65% keyboards. It would make no sense to release another 65%, therefore it is likely this will come first. I'm thinking March 1st for now. All information here is up to date as of today.

are there only going to be 40 units made?

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 10:19:39 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

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Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

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The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Bumping this due to the recent amounts of 65% keyboards. It would make no sense to release another 65%, therefore it is likely this will come first. I'm thinking March 1st for now. All information here is up to date as of today.

are there only going to be 40 units made?
Yes for this round. Will be 100 total, but there will be less options and no numbered engravings for the other 60.

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« Reply #63 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 13:04:08 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

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Show Image


Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

Show Image

The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.

Do you have any other good boards with top mounted plate? Have you tried comparing yours to any of those? 
I would suggest you to get one if you don't have any, or try if you haven't.
Your board looks rather normal to me, I suppose the the selling point would be the typing feel.
Again, I might be wrong.


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« Reply #64 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 14:21:56 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

Show Image


Show Image


Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

Show Image

The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.

Do you have any other good boards with top mounted plate? Have you tried comparing yours to any of those? 
I would suggest you to get one if you don't have any, or try if you haven't.
Your board looks rather normal to me, I suppose the the selling point would be the typing feel.
Again, I might be wrong.
X60 is here.  The plates are outdated, they have been changed and are different now - I will find a picture later. There isn't anything wrong with the mounting system you've quoted, but it has been changed.

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:17:46 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

Show Image


Show Image


Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

Show Image

The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.

Do you have any other good boards with top mounted plate? Have you tried comparing yours to any of those? 
I would suggest you to get one if you don't have any, or try if you haven't.
Your board looks rather normal to me, I suppose the the selling point would be the typing feel.
Again, I might be wrong.
X60 is here.  The plates are outdated, they have been changed and are different now - I will find a picture later. There isn't anything wrong with the mounting system you've quoted, but it has been changed.
Don't trouble yourself, I've found it.



Still 3 columns to the side. I would assume you have not seen or tried any others before.
Oh boy, homework is important. You must do them. I mean it not about be a pro, but at least it gives you the logic of how things were done. Or why is it so.
You didn't seem like you have done enough homework. I am worried for people who are interested/bought your board. 

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 19:39:46 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

Show Image


Show Image


Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

Show Image

The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.

Do you have any other good boards with top mounted plate? Have you tried comparing yours to any of those? 
I would suggest you to get one if you don't have any, or try if you haven't.
Your board looks rather normal to me, I suppose the the selling point would be the typing feel.
Again, I might be wrong.
X60 is here.  The plates are outdated, they have been changed and are different now - I will find a picture later. There isn't anything wrong with the mounting system you've quoted, but it has been changed.
Don't trouble yourself, I've found it.

Show Image


Still 3 columns to the side. I would assume you have not seen or tried any others before.
Oh boy, homework is important. You must do them. I mean it not about be a pro, but at least it gives you the logic of how things were done. Or why is it so.
You didn't seem like you have done enough homework. I am worried for people who are interested/bought your board.
Get to the point please, you're just sounding rude and patronising.

I think you mean you're worried when pressing down on a key, that the plate will rebound and hit the top. This does not happen with X60, but even knowing that I've changed the design to have the edge mounting points in line with the end column.

Can you message me your opinions and worries if you're joining this buy? If not, then there isn't much point. Thanks.

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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #67 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 20:16:02 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

Show Image


Show Image


Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

Show Image

The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.

Do you have any other good boards with top mounted plate? Have you tried comparing yours to any of those? 
I would suggest you to get one if you don't have any, or try if you haven't.
Your board looks rather normal to me, I suppose the the selling point would be the typing feel.
Again, I might be wrong.
X60 is here.  The plates are outdated, they have been changed and are different now - I will find a picture later. There isn't anything wrong with the mounting system you've quoted, but it has been changed.
Don't trouble yourself, I've found it.

Show Image


Still 3 columns to the side. I would assume you have not seen or tried any others before.
Oh boy, homework is important. You must do them. I mean it not about be a pro, but at least it gives you the logic of how things were done. Or why is it so.
You didn't seem like you have done enough homework. I am worried for people who are interested/bought your board.

Incredibly condescending tone aside, I assume you're worried about the bending moment around the outer corners of the plate when switches are pressed, which is unfounded... Perhaps you should do some homework about how plate/PCB are constructed. You've got rows of switches which clip into the plate at the top and is constrained by the PCB at the bottom via solder joints. In essence, this acts more like a classical example of a honeycomb cored sandwich panels, which displaces the main bending moment carriers (top and bottom plate) away from the neutral axis, increasing the 2nd moment of area and thus improving bending stiffness. If you've handled a fully constructed PCB/plate assembly, you will know that flexing of the assembly when you press on a key is not really an issue, whether or not you have the tip fully supported.

In this particular case, the mounting points essentially acts as dividers, so the idealised load case when you press on a key at the corners is less like a free-edge cantilever, and more like a see-saw (forgot the tecnical term), with the neighbouring 'bays' sharing the loading.

If you see an actual issue with the design, go ahead and point it out directly, instead of beating around the bush in a condescending and impolite tone. You're just being counterproductive, and thus people will end up ignoring you, dismissing whatever you say as crazy rambling of bumbling idiot. If you see a problem with the plate pictured, say what's wrong and have a rational argument to back it up. In other words, don't be a ****.
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Re: [IC] X75
« Reply #68 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 21:20:46 »


Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.



Incredibly condescending tone aside, I assume you're worried about the bending moment around the outer corners of the plate when switches are pressed, which is unfounded... Perhaps you should do some homework about how plate/PCB are constructed. You've got rows of switches which clip into the plate at the top and is constrained by the PCB at the bottom via solder joints. In essence, this acts more like a classical example of a honeycomb cored sandwich panels, which displaces the main bending moment carriers (top and bottom plate) away from the neutral axis, increasing the 2nd moment of area and thus improving bending stiffness. If you've handled a fully constructed PCB/plate assembly, you will know that flexing of the assembly when you press on a key is not really an issue, whether or not you have the tip fully supported.

In this particular case, the mounting points essentially acts as dividers, so the idealised load case when you press on a key at the corners is less like a free-edge cantilever, and more like a see-saw (forgot the tecnical term), with the neighbouring 'bays' sharing the loading.

If you see an actual issue with the design, go ahead and point it out directly, instead of beating around the bush in a condescending and impolite tone. You're just being counterproductive, and thus people will end up ignoring you, dismissing whatever you say as crazy rambling of bumbling idiot. If you see a problem with the plate pictured, say what's wrong and have a rational argument to back it up. In other words, don't be a ****.

EXTREMELY well said duynguyenle!!

I'm less than a year into this community too- and one of my favorite things is the willingness of the saltier folks to share knowledge and have interesting discussions about the various boards and materials and designs. I've never been shamed for asking a question - nor have I spouted off like I'm king turd in a thread I'm not even financially invested in.  Fatbuffalo mentioned a few posts back that he's rather new to the game... then proceeded to light up the flamethrower with an undoubtedly condescending tone and line of *cough bull$#it cough* questions. It's an IC for the 75, so no one has skin in the game yet... but come on man.

You've had fair questions asked back of you- what exactly is the problem that you're seeing other than the "distribution doesn't seem quite right." What are your other top-mounted boards of reference you think get it right. If you can help Xondat here, that's awesome and I imaging totally welcomed. That's why designers do IC's - they get useful feedback from people who care. Clearly that's not your aim.

Actually, forget those questions. No one wants to hear you picking a fight in a perfectly nice thread with a designer who's clearly very highly thought of. Look at the roster of those who are waiting on the X60 and ask those folks if they've paid solid money for a classic and gorgeous board - or just another "rather normal" board. I'm one of those with money happily bet on Xondat to deliver a beautiful piece. Thanks kindly for being worried about the way I and many others chose to spend our money... but in the words of my Momma, "it's better to have your nose in a book than someone else's business." Bugger off, homie.

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« Reply #69 on: Thu, 12 January 2017, 23:32:58 »
Cross posting, but these are the plates.

Show Image


Show Image


Universal plates are good, but visually not the best so this is the best solution in my opinion.

What do you think of this bit on the plates?

Show Image

The plate. Not right. Do you take physics in high school?
This is old and irrelevant.

Sorry, I was talking about the mounting points of the plate?
I am rather new into the game, but the distribution doesn't seem right to me.

Do you have any other good boards with top mounted plate? Have you tried comparing yours to any of those? 
I would suggest you to get one if you don't have any, or try if you haven't.
Your board looks rather normal to me, I suppose the the selling point would be the typing feel.
Again, I might be wrong.
X60 is here.  The plates are outdated, they have been changed and are different now - I will find a picture later. There isn't anything wrong with the mounting system you've quoted, but it has been changed.
Don't trouble yourself, I've found it.

Show Image


Still 3 columns to the side. I would assume you have not seen or tried any others before.
Oh boy, homework is important. You must do them. I mean it not about be a pro, but at least it gives you the logic of how things were done. Or why is it so.
You didn't seem like you have done enough homework. I am worried for people who are interested/bought your board.

Incredibly condescending tone aside, I assume you're worried about the bending moment around the outer corners of the plate when switches are pressed, which is unfounded... Perhaps you should do some homework about how plate/PCB are constructed. You've got rows of switches which clip into the plate at the top and is constrained by the PCB at the bottom via solder joints. In essence, this acts more like a classical example of a honeycomb cored sandwich panels, which displaces the main bending moment carriers (top and bottom plate) away from the neutral axis, increasing the 2nd moment of area and thus improving bending stiffness. If you've handled a fully constructed PCB/plate assembly, you will know that flexing of the assembly when you press on a key is not really an issue, whether or not you have the tip fully supported.

In this particular case, the mounting points essentially acts as dividers, so the idealised load case when you press on a key at the corners is less like a free-edge cantilever, and more like a see-saw (forgot the tecnical term), with the neighbouring 'bays' sharing the loading.

If you see an actual issue with the design, go ahead and point it out directly, instead of beating around the bush in a condescending and impolite tone. You're just being counterproductive, and thus people will end up ignoring you, dismissing whatever you say as crazy rambling of bumbling idiot. If you see a problem with the plate pictured, say what's wrong and have a rational argument to back it up. In other words, don't be a ****.
My choice of words are limited. Sorry if I'd sounded rude. If anyone of you happen to have an orion, just try to remove a screw at one of the corner. But then again, it's just me.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 13 January 2017, 05:23:49 »
Bumping this due to the recent amounts of 65% keyboards. It would make no sense to release another 65%, therefore it is likely this will come first. I'm thinking March 1st for now. All information here is up to date as of today.

Thank you for approx. ETA, enough time to find the money!   :D
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« Reply #71 on: Fri, 13 January 2017, 13:42:18 »

My choice of words are limited. Sorry if I'd sounded rude. If anyone of you happen to have an orion, just try to remove a screw at one of the corner. But then again, it's just me.

Right on, it's all good. Sorry if I was overly harsh too. We'll chalk it up to language barriers!  :cool:

Hope you watch this project come to life and add those constructive thoughts and suggestions. Odds are, this will be a beauty and I don't think you'd regret going in for a Xondat piece. The X60 is my first Noxary GB, but I would highly recommend it. He runs an excellent buy and it's been fun to be along for the ride.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Likely To Launch Soon)
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 15 January 2017, 22:09:32 »
pretty keen for this now that i've seen it :eek:

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Likely To Launch Soon)
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 23 January 2017, 17:27:16 »
Prototype will turn up during mid February, after building/testing I'll drop a preorder soon after.

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« Reply #74 on: Mon, 23 January 2017, 19:06:47 »
Prototype will turn up during mid February, after building/testing I'll drop a preorder soon after.

Sweet!

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Likely To Launch Soon)
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 27 January 2017, 16:13:49 »
Please consider grey-blue as a color option =)

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« Reply #76 on: Sat, 28 January 2017, 15:23:31 »
I'd be interested in this! I'm looking forward to a splitspacebar version of this layout but this is looking good. Photos of the sample would be great!

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« Reply #77 on: Mon, 30 January 2017, 06:36:10 »
looking forward to the prototype, very interested in this

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« Reply #78 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 10:53:43 »
Definitely interested if I can pull together the funds... working on my first build and this looks perfect!

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« Reply #79 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 12:57:17 »
Quite cool to watch your X-series come together, xondat  :thumb: wish I had more cash to get in on one, who knows.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 13:44:37 »
First Edition:
  • Any Anodizing Color

:eek:

How many General Release boards can we expect to be available?
Will the stainless steel weight and plate be base kit options for these as well?

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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 14:07:53 »
count me in

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 07 February 2017, 16:52:52 »
First Edition ($350):
  • Any Anodizing Color
  • Brass Or Stainless Steel Weight with Engraving & Individual Numbering
  • Aluminium, Stainless Steel, Brass, Polycarbonate or Carbon Fiber Plate
  • Limited to 30
General Release ($300):
  • Black, Dark Gray, Silver, or Red Anodizing
  • Brass Weight with Engraving
  • Aluminium or Stainless Steel Plate

If anyone has any suggestions, feedback or anything else about this - comment and let me know! I'm still figuring out this for the most part, and nothing is final so I'd like more opinions.

  • How many General Release boards can we expect to be available?
  • Will the stainless steel weight and plate be base kit options for these as well?
  • Not sure, at this point I'm thinking about not limiting it.
  • See above.

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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 10 February 2017, 20:27:54 »
Very interesting. I hope the brass plates will be less limited.

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« Reply #84 on: Sun, 12 February 2017, 03:33:35 »
Would also like to see the brass plate as a general relase offering. It's a very popular choice

Custom colors and serial numbers are already plenty of exclusivity for the limited edition :)
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« Reply #85 on: Sun, 12 February 2017, 07:49:08 »
Creators Choice ($400):
   Color selected by Xondat
   Weight selected by Xondat
   Plate selected by Xondat
   Limited to 3
   Limited Engraving with Custom engraving from the User

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        Brass, Polycarbonate or Carbon Fiber Plate
        Limited to 30

    General Release ($300):
        Black, Dark Gray, Silver, or Red Anodizing
        Brass Weight with Engraving
        Aluminium or Stainless Steel Plate

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #86 on: Wed, 15 February 2017, 09:23:27 »
Good and bad news!

The bad news is that this will start later due to X60 delays. X75 won't open until X60 has been delivered to me.

The good news is that I've been able to lower the pricing on both editions after talks with my manufacturer and our future projects. As long as we're able to meet 100 units or higher with each group buy, then pricing will stay around this price. Buying 100 PCBs compared to lower units also lowers the price so same again on the PCB side. Originally we were looking at $400 and $350, but we're down $75 now.

First Edition ($325):
  • Any Anodizing Color
  • Brass Or Stainless Steel Weight with Engraving & Individual Numbering
  • Aluminium, Stainless Steel, Brass, Polycarbonate or Carbon Fiber Plate
  • Limited to 30
General Release ($275):
  • Black, Dark Gray, Silver, or Red Anodizing
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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #87 on: Wed, 15 February 2017, 09:55:34 »
Great news! Price drop is unexpected but welcome :) I am so excited for this keyboard! Will the first edition be FCFS?
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« Reply #88 on: Wed, 15 February 2017, 10:03:47 »
Great news! Price drop is unexpected but welcome :) I am so excited for this keyboard! Will the first edition be FCFS?

Most likely, but I have no idea how many entries I'll get as I put this IC out a bit too soon. Might follow this post up with a form to get some idea on numbers or something.

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« Reply #89 on: Wed, 15 February 2017, 10:55:31 »
Count me in!

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« Reply #90 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 08:12:44 »
Awesome news.
Will orders be Limited to 1 board per person again this time?

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« Reply #91 on: Mon, 20 February 2017, 08:56:25 »
Awesome news.
Will orders be Limited to 1 board per person again this time?
I've never limited it to 1 board per person, and I never will. :p

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« Reply #92 on: Tue, 21 February 2017, 22:39:50 »
Registering my interest for this! Was looking into getting a 75% board for some time now, and this design look really nice. Looking forward to getting one!
                                           
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« Reply #93 on: Sun, 26 February 2017, 17:56:06 »
This is extremely tempting.

Orange anodization is an option?

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« Reply #94 on: Sun, 26 February 2017, 18:09:56 »
This is extremely tempting.

Orange anodization is an option?

Yup.

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« Reply #95 on: Sun, 26 February 2017, 18:52:15 »
I wonder how orange anodized case + brass plate would look.
Also, how would you describe brass plate in terms of rigidity? More rigid than Stainless Steel or Carbon Fiber?

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« Reply #96 on: Sun, 26 February 2017, 20:11:58 »
I wonder how orange anodized case + brass plate would look.
Also, how would you describe brass plate in terms of rigidity? More rigid than Stainless Steel or Carbon Fiber?
Cannot comment as of yet. Receiving X60 plates in all materials at the same time as this prototype (April 13th).

Leandren has done Orange + Brass here.

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« Reply #97 on: Sun, 26 February 2017, 20:23:16 »
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« Reply #98 on: Sun, 26 February 2017, 22:58:02 »

Cannot comment as of yet..
Orange + Brass here.

Ok, I will continue monitoring this thread. If the prototype looks nice, I think I'll stick to this as my future sole board! That orange + brass combo is much better than I had hoped. Definitely getting that.

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« Reply #99 on: Thu, 02 March 2017, 02:37:49 »
The bad news is that this will start later due to X60 delays. X75 won't open until X60 has been delivered to me.

Hi xon. How much later are you guessing since March 1st has come and gone? I really don't want to miss this one.

Do you happen to have examples of the anodizing colors? When I got my last case anodized they had a book of swatches like this: http://imgur.com/MmytRPQ Anything you could share would be greatly appreciated since 'any color' is just a bit nebulous. :D Thanks!

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 02 March 2017, 06:38:48 »
The bad news is that this will start later due to X60 delays. X75 won't open until X60 has been delivered to me.

Hi xon. How much later are you guessing since March 1st has come and gone? I really don't want to miss this one.

Do you happen to have examples of the anodizing colors? When I got my last case anodized they had a book of swatches like this: http://imgur.com/MmytRPQ Anything you could share would be greatly appreciated since 'any color' is just a bit nebulous. :D Thanks!

I'll receive the X75 prototype on April 13th in the X60 shipment. I'll need to build it to make sure we're all good, and I'll also need to ship as much as I can out before I start this buy. I think we're looking at April 20th or so!

Regarding anodizing colors, I will hopefully be able to get some samples on hand, if not I'll get multiple pictures of each color in different lighting taken by my guy to represent the colors as well as possible.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Due Early May)
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 26 March 2017, 21:34:28 »
The prototype finally enters production tomorrow (along with some other stuff), which means they should it should be here on the 30th of April. I'll be building it straight away and then (fingers crossed) setting a date for the beginning of the group buy! Here are two screenshots of the prototype spec case, with the engraving.





It really should happen this time, this is the first project I started working on (and why I started in the first place, back in June last year). Kinda annoying how long its taken, but I don't see any obstacles in the way now.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Due Early May)
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 07:47:19 »
The prototype finally enters production tomorrow (along with some other stuff), which means they should it should be here on the 30th of April. I'll be building it straight away and then (fingers crossed) setting a date for the beginning of the group buy! Here are two screenshots of the prototype spec case, with the engraving.

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It really should happen this time, this is the first project I started working on (and why I started in the first place, back in June last year). Kinda annoying how long its taken, but I don't see any obstacles in the way now.

Finally! So hyped for this. Can't wait to see the first prototype!

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Due Early May)
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 10:38:22 »
Looks like the price went a little further down :)
Standard edition now seems to be limited to 100, however.

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Re: [IC] 2017 X75 (Due Early May)
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 27 March 2017, 13:32:47 »
I'm pretty excited for this, I've never used a 75% board before so I'm hoping to make this my first.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 22:30:04 »
That's sexy, I'm going to have to jump in on this one.

Is there a possibility of bringing the brass back plate (ANSI) to the standard edition? I'm willing to go in on a first edition (price isn't an issue), but if someone out there can appreciate the color options (planned on a dark grey myself) and exclusive serial number more then I could I can take a seat for the standard edition.

Side Note: a quick search didn't seem to bring up anything, but is the PCB compatible with the commonly sold Holtite bits for hot-swap modding?

Edit: looks like a tight fit, but should work with Holtite mod

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:04:20 »
Yeah I may have to join the 75% club for this one...

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 28 March 2017, 23:23:06 »
What does noxary mean exactly?

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:03:24 »
Looks like the price went a little further down :)
Standard edition now seems to be limited to 100, however.

I need to limit how many I should be shipping, but I don't really expect to hit 100 Standards anyway.

That's sexy, I'm going to have to jump in on this one.

Is there a possibility of bringing the brass back plate (ANSI) to the standard edition? I'm willing to go in on a first edition (price isn't an issue), but if someone out there can appreciate the color options (planned on a dark grey myself) and exclusive serial number more then I could I can take a seat for the standard edition.

Side Note: a quick search didn't seem to bring up anything, but is the PCB compatible with the commonly sold Holtite bits for hot-swap modding?

Edit: looks like a tight fit, but should work with Holtite mod

If I take the brass plate to the Standard X75, I have to take the others too so it probably won't happen. The First Editions are supposed to be special.

No idea regarding Holtites.

What does noxary mean exactly?

Well I needed something to separate xondat from the work I do, because having a company and user called xondat would end up being confusing. Criteria was really a few things:
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  • Must relate closely to xondat
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  • Must look nice (NOXARY, Noxary, noxary)
After a few days of just screwing around with names, I came up with Noxary combining:
  • xondat backwards is tadnox, NOX from that
  • Rotary (watches), thought it sounded nice, ARY from that
So putting the two together met the criteria, creating Noxary on the 9th of September last year.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:04:53 »
Looks like the price went a little further down :)
Standard edition now seems to be limited to 100, however.

I need to limit how many I should be shipping, but I don't really expect to hit 100 Standards anyway.



What happens if the orders exceed 100? I really want one of these!

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #110 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 11:10:07 »
Looks like the price went a little further down :)
Standard edition now seems to be limited to 100, however.

I need to limit how many I should be shipping, but I don't really expect to hit 100 Standards anyway.


What happens if the orders exceed 100? I really want one of these!

Well there will be 130 total. If there are more orders than the 130 then you're out of luck.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 29 March 2017, 19:26:07 »
Looks like the price went a little further down :)
Standard edition now seems to be limited to 100, however.

I need to limit how many I should be shipping, but I don't really expect to hit 100 Standards anyway.

That's sexy, I'm going to have to jump in on this one.

Is there a possibility of bringing the brass back plate (ANSI) to the standard edition? I'm willing to go in on a first edition (price isn't an issue), but if someone out there can appreciate the color options (planned on a dark grey myself) and exclusive serial number more then I could I can take a seat for the standard edition.

Side Note: a quick search didn't seem to bring up anything, but is the PCB compatible with the commonly sold Holtite bits for hot-swap modding?

Edit: looks like a tight fit, but should work with Holtite mod

If I take the brass plate to the Standard X75, I have to take the others too so it probably won't happen. The First Editions are supposed to be special.

No idea regarding Holtites.

What does noxary mean exactly?

Well I needed something to separate xondat from the work I do, because having a company and user called xondat would end up being confusing. Criteria was really a few things:
  • Easy to pronounce from reading, and easy to write from hearing
  • 6 letters
  • Must relate closely to xondat
  • Available domains/not used before
  • Must look nice (NOXARY, Noxary, noxary)
After a few days of just screwing around with names, I came up with Noxary combining:
  • xondat backwards is tadnox, NOX from that
  • Rotary (watches), thought it sounded nice, ARY from that
So putting the two together met the criteria, creating Noxary on the 9th of September last year.

Oh balls. Well, looks like I'm gonna try fighting for a first edition, if they're available, haha.

Oh! May be try to match the case color to SP's Skull Squadron black (NN/GX) or white (WA) if I get my hands on one, thoughts thoughts...

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 30 March 2017, 15:36:06 »
Time to pray to the RNG gods...:))

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« Reply #113 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 03:13:23 »
Time to pray to the RNG gods...:))

X60 was first come first serve, will it be rng this time??

Pls no xD

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 04:29:25 »
Nice, simple design. Looking forward to seeing the prototype shots.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #115 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 13:29:26 »
It will be FCFS. I've asked Xondat about this through PMs.


What are the color options for 1st editions? Any pictures available showcasing them?

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« Reply #116 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 13:51:15 »
Time to pray to the RNG gods...:))

X60 was first come first serve, will it be rng this time??

Pls no xD

RNG meaning if we see the thread in time to sign up!

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 14:02:06 »
Time to pray to the RNG gods...:))

X60 was first come first serve, will it be rng this time??

Pls no xD

FCFS again :)

What are the color options for 1st editions? Any pictures available showcasing them?

Pretty much what you want. There won't be any color matching or anything, but examples of what you want can be passed on etc. I've asked for the possibility of color samples, but I guess since this is the first round of any anodizing colour it'll be mostly blind if I can't get a sample for your specific colour.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 15:29:34 »
What time does this open?  :-X

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #119 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 15:36:48 »
What time does this open?  :-X

May, like it says in the thread title. You'll have plenty of time to place an order once they open up.
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« Reply #120 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 15:42:24 »
What time does this open?  :-X

May, like it says in the thread title. You'll have plenty of time to place an order once they open up.

Sorry, quite tired right now. Thought it would open tomorrow and got excited  :confused:

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 31 March 2017, 16:36:30 »
What time does this open?  :-X

May, like it says in the thread title. You'll have plenty of time to place an order once they open up.

Sorry, quite tired right now. Thought it would open tomorrow and got excited  :confused:

I wish. I'll be releasing the First Edition a day earlier than the standard or something, but I imagine with the 130 total slots it'd be difficult to miss :))

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #122 on: Fri, 07 April 2017, 17:47:02 »
I don't see any mention, but do you have the full case dimensions finalized? I'm trying to gauge final switch height since I like it as low as it can get with micro-switches; just makes m+k usage more comfortable, lol.

Edit: question about the PCB; does customization include the ability to set debounce? I've been searching and can't find too much.
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #123 on: Sat, 08 April 2017, 06:27:40 »
I don't see any mention, but do you have the full case dimensions finalized? I'm trying to gauge final switch height since I like it as low as it can get with micro-switches; just makes m+k usage more comfortable, lol.

Edit: question about the PCB; does customization include the ability to set debounce? I've been searching and can't find too much.

Pretty sure most enthusiast PCBs follow Cherry Corp's recommended debounce time of 5ms. I think TMK and QMK allows you to set a custom debounce time, but 5ms is the official spec. Not sure what your plans are, but normally debounce is not something people tinker with when they build their keyboards.
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #124 on: Sat, 08 April 2017, 07:34:33 »
I don't see any mention, but do you have the full case dimensions finalized? I'm trying to gauge final switch height since I like it as low as it can get with micro-switches; just makes m+k usage more comfortable, lol.

Edit: question about the PCB; does customization include the ability to set debounce? I've been searching and can't find too much.

The feet will add around 1.7mm, but from the lowest point of the keyboard to the top of the switch plate it's 12.2762mm, and the case height on the front edge is 19.5696mm.

I've asked my PCB guy about the debounce, as I personally have no idea. Edit: it's a software thing, so if the timing is right, I can provide a QMK PCB that you can fiddle with.
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #125 on: Sat, 08 April 2017, 22:56:00 »
I don't see any mention, but do you have the full case dimensions finalized? I'm trying to gauge final switch height since I like it as low as it can get with micro-switches; just makes m+k usage more comfortable, lol.

Edit: question about the PCB; does customization include the ability to set debounce? I've been searching and can't find too much.

Pretty sure most enthusiast PCBs follow Cherry Corp's recommended debounce time of 5ms. I think TMK and QMK allows you to set a custom debounce time, but 5ms is the official spec. Not sure what your plans are, but normally debounce is not something people tinker with when they build their keyboards.

I thought it'd be a nice option to have. I run into random chatter now and then on a few boards and rather than mess with the culprit (break down, desolder, replace, reassemble) it would be nice to loosen up the timing for a temp/lazy fix.


I don't see any mention, but do you have the full case dimensions finalized? I'm trying to gauge final switch height since I like it as low as it can get with micro-switches; just makes m+k usage more comfortable, lol.

Edit: question about the PCB; does customization include the ability to set debounce? I've been searching and can't find too much.

The feet will add around 1.7mm, but from the lowest point of the keyboard to the top of the switch plate it's 12.2762mm, and the case height on the front edge is 19.5696mm.

I've asked my PCB guy about the debounce, as I personally have no idea. Edit: it's a software thing, so if the timing is right, I can provide a QMK PCB that you can fiddle with.

Sweet, thanks for the info! No need to send out a PCB, I'm definitely in for the drop when it comes time; I just like info, it gives me the goodness to know everything there is to know about something I'm interested in, haha.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 08 April 2017, 23:10:33 »
Possibility of a first edition anodized any color is pretty damn tempting...

Might have to try my luck when this opens.  Excited to see the proto built, xon.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 11 April 2017, 21:15:28 »
Excited to see the proto built, xon.

Me too.

Prototype should be built with a PCB designed specifically for this board. This means, if all goes well, that the case & PCB will be $300. Got to order prototypes without soldered components, then another prototype batch with soldered components, and then we'd be ready. It shouldn't delay anything due to the quick turnaround of PCB production.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 11 April 2017, 21:29:33 »
Excited to see the proto built, xon.

Me too.

Prototype should be built with a PCB designed specifically for this board. This means, if all goes well, that the case & PCB will be $300. Got to order prototypes without soldered components, then another prototype batch with soldered components, and then we'd be ready. It shouldn't delay anything due to the quick turnaround of PCB production.

$300 is REAL GOOD

If the PCB that it comes with is SMD presoldered, I might get in on this...

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #129 on: Tue, 11 April 2017, 21:37:50 »
Excited to see the proto built, xon.

Me too.

Prototype should be built with a PCB designed specifically for this board. This means, if all goes well, that the case & PCB will be $300. Got to order prototypes without soldered components, then another prototype batch with soldered components, and then we'd be ready. It shouldn't delay anything due to the quick turnaround of PCB production.

$300 is REAL GOOD

If the PCB that it comes with is SMD presoldered, I might get in on this...

depends on what happens with pricing on Moon

SMDs?

As far as I know, the only soldering that should be required would be switches, and in switch LEDs if you want.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 11 April 2017, 22:03:18 »
That's what I wanted to hear.

I read the OP and it answered my questions about colors.
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« Reply #131 on: Tue, 11 April 2017, 22:21:16 »
Ohwhat? When did you add the custom board to the list? Do you have a list of info for it?  :D

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« Reply #132 on: Wed, 12 April 2017, 04:52:59 »
Excited to see the proto built, xon.

Me too.

Prototype should be built with a PCB designed specifically for this board. This means, if all goes well, that the case & PCB will be $300. Got to order prototypes without soldered components, then another prototype batch with soldered components, and then we'd be ready. It shouldn't delay anything due to the quick turnaround of PCB production.

$300 is REAL GOOD

If the PCB that it comes with is SMD presoldered, I might get in on this...

depends on what happens with pricing on Moon

SMDs?

As far as I know, the only soldering that should be required would be switches, and in switch LEDs if you want.

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« Reply #133 on: Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:14:09 »
FYI



Now I'm even more excited. Will color options be the same on the plates as the PCBs?
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« Reply #134 on: Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:27:19 »
FYI

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Now I'm even more excited. Will color options be the same on the plates as the PCBs?

Yup - aiming for a $300 base price. PCB will be matte black & gold. Plate/cases will be open to colours in their respective versions. These are the layout options:


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« Reply #135 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 07:33:03 »
This looks good. I'm interested. Hopefully I can get one.

EDIT: For an uneducated like me, what exactly is "Any Anodizing Color"? Is there a specific chart somewhere?
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« Reply #136 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 09:00:02 »
This looks good. I'm interested. Hopefully I can get one.

EDIT: For an uneducated like me, what exactly is "Any Anodizing Color"? Is there a specific chart somewhere?

No doubt you'll be able to.

It should be as simple as describing your color and also giving a couple of examples. I'm planning on getting as many anodizing samples as possible so those should give some pointers.

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« Reply #137 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 12:26:58 »
I'd love to see those samples. Do you think there will be different tones of colors, say light blue/blue, light grey/grey/darkgrey, etc

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« Reply #138 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 12:39:18 »
If there's an option for 1.25u on the right portion of bottom-row mods, that would be great.

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« Reply #139 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 12:45:43 »
If there's an option for 1.25u on the right portion of bottom-row mods, that would be great.

It would've left a gap, but could you post your layout with that from KLE?

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« Reply #140 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 15:57:03 »
I'd love to see those samples. Do you think there will be different tones of colors, say light blue/blue, light grey/grey/darkgrey, etc

anodizing isn't 16.8million but it is fairly specific

i wouldn't trust it to do hexcodes but if i'm pretty sure pink, rose gold, and light red would all look different
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« Reply #141 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 16:01:07 »
Interesting. I'd try to get a grey that is somewhat close to my case color.


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« Reply #142 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 18:24:56 »
I'd love to see those samples. Do you think there will be different tones of colors, say light blue/blue, light grey/grey/darkgrey, etc

I wouldn't say many - maybe 2-4 of each main colors depending on what etc. I can't get samples of all (neons, pastels, in betweens of primarys, secondarys etc), but I'll try to cover some less popular stuff.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #143 on: Fri, 14 April 2017, 22:53:34 »
Love the layout options. Will polycarb plates be available with the regular editions if one misses out on the first release editions and will there be an option to choose between plate mount and pcb mount stabs?

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #144 on: Sat, 15 April 2017, 06:05:19 »
Love the layout options. Will polycarb plates be available with the regular editions if one misses out on the first release editions and will there be an option to choose between plate mount and pcb mount stabs?

Probably not. My boards only use PCB mount stabilizers :)

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #145 on: Tue, 18 April 2017, 20:28:28 »
First run of prototype PCBs are on the way to Quantrik, which means I should receive it around the same time as the prototype case :p

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #146 on: Wed, 19 April 2017, 05:51:03 »
Sweet! Can't wait for more updates!

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #147 on: Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:25:53 »
  • 8 weeks from payment to shipping.

Pretty quick!

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:46:20 »
8 weeks from payment to shipping.

Pretty quick!

Definitely a big goal for me this time around. Production generally only takes 4-5 weeks, so it should be pretty achievable as I have everything set up perfectly for a smooth buy.

It's been 40 weeks since I took deposits for X60 (will be 42 at shipping), which is awful, so the best way to come back from that would be cutting it to a fifth. :p

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« Reply #149 on: Wed, 19 April 2017, 22:17:44 »
 It would make sense that this time around it would go faster. You already have a manufacturer you trust and have probably learned alot throughout the process.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 16:05:45 »
If you ever do future rounds of this or when you do your 65% board I would love to see split spacebar support. 

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #151 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 18:34:36 »
Would love to see a 65% after this groupbuy

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« Reply #152 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 18:52:58 »
If you ever do future rounds of this or when you do your 65% board I would love to see split spacebar support. 

Would love to see a 65% after this groupbuy

Sure ;D

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #153 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:12:13 »
I'd love too see a split board bb <3

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #154 on: Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:34:33 »
I'd love too see a split board bb <3

Also working on it :eek:

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 22 April 2017, 22:27:55 »
Two things:
  • PCB is working. Components are being hand soldered and then it'll be on the way to me.
  • I started typing this a couple hours ago and forgot the other thing. I'll update when I remember it.
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #156 on: Sat, 22 April 2017, 23:53:29 »
full backlighting support?

assuming yes but just wanna make sure
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 23 April 2017, 06:05:47 »
full backlighting support?

assuming yes but just wanna make sure

Backlighting as in in switch LEDs? Yeah. There aren't any LEDs on the bottom of the PCB as it'd be completely useless.

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« Reply #158 on: Sun, 23 April 2017, 16:28:39 »
full backlighting support?

assuming yes but just wanna make sure

Backlighting as in in switch LEDs? Yeah. There aren't any LEDs on the bottom of the PCB as it'd be completely useless.

yeah, meant in switch

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #159 on: Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:51:18 »
did the sample come in

if yes pls pics
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #160 on: Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:16:48 »
Last night didn't go so well. For some unknown reason, the parts aren't done yet. I'm sorry that I have to bring more disappointment here.

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[2:05:08 AM] (cnc machining): they haven't been finished,still need several days
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[2:48:35 AM] Anthony: are you able to give a date for shipment at all?
[2:51:05 AM] (cnc machining): we will ship the all the keyboards after balance received.is 12th May ok for you
[2:51:39 AM] Anthony: the sooner the better
[2:51:50 AM] Anthony: if that is as soon, then yes that's ok
[2:52:28 AM] (cnc machining): i also hope we can ship them to you as soon as possible

This one really messes with me - I thought it was the end of production. I should receive them around May 15/16 now.

X75 is in that shipment. Pending no further delays, I'm aiming to release on May 18th now (such a specific date as it'd be my birthday).

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« Reply #161 on: Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:20:38 »
W00t!

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« Reply #162 on: Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:22:54 »
Last night didn't go so well. For some unknown reason, the parts aren't done yet. I'm sorry that I have to bring more disappointment here.

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[2:05:08 AM] (cnc machining): they haven't been finished,still need several days
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[2:48:35 AM] Anthony: are you able to give a date for shipment at all?
[2:51:05 AM] (cnc machining): we will ship the all the keyboards after balance received.is 12th May ok for you
[2:51:39 AM] Anthony: the sooner the better
[2:51:50 AM] Anthony: if that is as soon, then yes that's ok
[2:52:28 AM] (cnc machining): i also hope we can ship them to you as soon as possible

This one really messes with me - I thought it was the end of production. I should receive them around May 15/16 now.

X75 is in that shipment. Pending no further delays, I'm aiming to release on May 18th now (such a specific date as it'd be my birthday).

Great, thanks.

I think I'll have $$$ by then.
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 08 May 2017, 19:31:36 »
I might have missed this, but will your PCB for the X75 have split spacebar support?

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #164 on: Tue, 09 May 2017, 10:28:17 »
If we manage to get in the First Edition, how long will we have to decide / confirm the colour choice? Or will it need to be stated upon ordering?

Very interested in this, I've just finished an alu / acrylic 75% and love the layout - this could be the start of an end game board.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #165 on: Fri, 12 May 2017, 11:37:57 »
I might have missed this, but will your PCB for the X75 have split spacebar support?

No it won't.

If we manage to get in the First Edition, how long will we have to decide / confirm the colour choice? Or will it need to be stated upon ordering?

Very interested in this, I've just finished an alu / acrylic 75% and love the layout - this could be the start of an end game board.

P.S. shipping from the UK? Sorry if you've already mentioned..

Probably have 2 weeks maximum as I want to order parts ASAP.

I ship from the UK.



X75 prototype is in the mail ;D

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing May 2017)
« Reply #166 on: Sun, 14 May 2017, 14:26:39 »
Have you got some color samples? I would like to see some different kinds of grey to be certain what to choose if I buy one.
And when is it estimated to ship?

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« Reply #167 on: Sun, 14 May 2017, 19:21:56 »
Have you got some color samples? I would like to see some different kinds of grey to be certain what to choose if I buy one.
And when is it estimated to ship?

I won't be receiving any color samples due to color variation between batches; it won't be accurate.

I'll try and have a couple of gray sample pictures sent over - I'd love to have a blue-gray or green-gray personally.

If you mean the prototype, it's in the mail and should be with me next week. If you mean the group buy, according to my schedule I should get the shipment on the 6th - 8th of July.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #168 on: Mon, 15 May 2017, 19:16:49 »
Few things to clarify:
  • A few people have messaged me asking if I'm selling any extras as they missed the group buy. It hasn't started yet :confused:
  • You can order different top and bottom colours
  • I refuse to start the group buy until I have the prototype in my hands, it's in shipment at the minute so very soontm
  • I'm not getting any color samples as they'll never be accurate to what you'd get anyway (unless its a standard color)
  • I'll be getting all 130 made, which means there will probably be stock afterwards (I'll try to get a nice proportion of parts/colours in the unordered parts)
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #169 on: Tue, 16 May 2017, 03:06:07 »
Y'know what, I was hesitant on the design of this board and the X60 for a long time (I found it a little too simple I guess), but now I find that I'm really digging it. Especially the blocker on the 75% as I've been typing on a 75% for half a year now and I still can't get used to the crowded area of the arrow keys.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 17 May 2017, 17:54:27 »
Will the time the GB goes live be announced a few hours before?

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« Reply #171 on: Fri, 19 May 2017, 19:01:13 »
Will the time the GB goes live be announced a few hours before?

Yeah, I'll post the GB thread and then have it start at a set time after approval.

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« Reply #172 on: Sun, 28 May 2017, 22:49:55 »
Any rough estimate of when we should expect the GB to start?

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« Reply #173 on: Mon, 29 May 2017, 11:57:17 »
No update yet. I'll post here when I know something.

It's worth noting this so you're aware of my state: I was at the arena attack on Monday and the emotions of it all are catching up. If I'm not communicating very well, it's because my head is all over the place. If I'm modding switches because it's therapeutic, then I will be.

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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82729.1600

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #174 on: Mon, 29 May 2017, 12:05:05 »
It's in the same shipment so it'll just turn up. A couple of weeks maybe? I can't do anything else but wait for them to be shipped and then arrive (using TNT Express [6-8 days apparently]).

I've got the first prototype PCB and still need to assemble it, looks good otherwise and I'll post some pictures when it's all soldered up.

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« Reply #175 on: Mon, 05 June 2017, 04:30:54 »
i like your chats on discord, might be into this.

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #176 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 10:32:32 »
I have a tracking number, but it doesn't work. According to the manu who talked to the courier, the tracking will work once it reaches the Netherlands, which should be any day now as its 6-8 days (and was picked up Friday). I'm just waiting around for proof that they're on the way.

Will launch this once X60s start arriving so people can gauge quality. I'd release it later, but I want to get the production run started ASAP.
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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #177 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 12:25:51 »
Pending no delays, looking to start next Wednesday :-* Also First Edition will be renamed, I'll figure that out between now and then.

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« Reply #178 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 12:50:05 »
Pending no delays, looking to start next Wednesday :-* Also First Edition will be renamed, I'll figure that out between now and then.

Are all of the brass weights in the bottom engraves or are there some which are polished without any engravings?

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Releasing Soon?)
« Reply #179 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 12:56:12 »
Pending no delays, looking to start next Wednesday :-* Also First Edition will be renamed, I'll figure that out between now and then.

Are all of the brass weights in the bottom engraves or are there some which are polished without any engravings?

All weights are sand blasted; polishing is just way too inconsistent as it's done by hand. The First Edition will be numbered (First Edition 00/30), the rest will have what you see here (but X75 instead).



The inside will feature just "X75".


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« Reply #180 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:18:19 »
Pending no delays, looking to start next Wednesday :-* Also First Edition will be renamed, I'll figure that out between now and then.

Awesome! Has there been clarification on what entails "any anodizing color"? Is there a color code chart? Also, what's the chance of adding blue or green to the standard edition?

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« Reply #181 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:33:14 »
Pending no delays, looking to start next Wednesday :-* Also First Edition will be renamed, I'll figure that out between now and then.

Awesome! Has there been clarification on what entails "any anodizing color"? Is there a color code chart? Also, what's the chance of adding blue or green to the standard edition?

Literally just say what you want. No color chart as anodizing is never exact, and it'd be very hard to convey and get what you want. If you can't describe it, then it won't really work. You can provide a picture that would help, but it isn't going to be Pantone accurate. It's going to be a "light/normal/dark blue" etc.

No chance ^-^

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« Reply #182 on: Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:38:41 »
Tyvm for the quick reply. Here's to hoping I can get in on the First Edition then!  :)

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« Reply #183 on: Fri, 09 June 2017, 00:07:19 »
Will the time the GB goes live be announced a few hours before?

Yeah, I'll post the GB thread and then have it start at a set time after approval.

I'm new to geekhack group buys. So I assume you'll post a separate GB thread and then update this one as an announcement?

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« Reply #184 on: Fri, 09 June 2017, 01:28:43 »
Will the time the GB goes live be announced a few hours before?

Yeah, I'll post the GB thread and then have it start at a set time after approval.

I'm new to geekhack group buys. So I assume you'll post a separate GB thread and then update this one as an announcement?

Correct! I'll post the GB thread, and when it's approved I'll give it a few hours and then open the form at a set time to give everyone a fair chance at those numbered slots :)

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Probably Releasing 6/17)
« Reply #185 on: Tue, 13 June 2017, 08:59:46 »
Prototype should be here Thursday, meaning Saturday release. :p


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Re: [IC] Noxary X75 (Probably Releasing 6/17)
« Reply #186 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 07:44:07 »


Prototype is here :eek:

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« Reply #187 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 07:55:43 »
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Prototype is here :eek:

No boards at the moment BUT working on it :)

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« Reply #188 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 16:57:02 »
I'm very sad I missed out on the X60; I'm super excited to get in on the X75; and I can't wait to see what's gonna follow that (TKL pls)
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« Reply #189 on: Fri, 16 June 2017, 15:37:27 »
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Prototype is here :eek:

More! MORE PICTURES!!! :drool:
Seriously I hope I can loosen up some funds for this...
Have much I want to buy atm(I have recently moved to a new home).

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« Reply #190 on: Sat, 17 June 2017, 12:35:38 »
Is today the day?!

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Re: [IC] Noxary X75
« Reply #191 on: Sat, 17 June 2017, 13:13:37 »
Hi all,

For now, this won't be happening due to some quality issues with my factory. I am currently working with some well respected community members in order to find a new factory. I can't put any numbers down, but it will be a lot smaller, although this isn't on my mind at the minute.

I hope you can all understand; sorry to disappoint but I'm too dedicated to quality to run it at the minute.

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« Reply #192 on: Sat, 17 June 2017, 13:34:39 »
Just saw this, honestly I'm kinda happy about the delay because of my low funds atm... Selfish me. I hope finding a new manufacturer goes smoothly

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« Reply #193 on: Sat, 17 June 2017, 13:50:32 »
Classy move, Xondat. Always worth waiting for the quality to be right. Thanks for the ace communication.