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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #100 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 18:32:17 »
Struggling with choosing a color :confused:

I'll have SA Symbiosis, SA Godspeed, SA Carbon, and SA Pulse that I would like to use on it. Maybe silver might be the best color choice for these sets?

Thatís a tough one due to the amount of possible colours. Iíd definitely go with something neutral like silver or dark grey. White could look good with some of those sets too but might be too much contrast with some of them.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #101 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 18:34:39 »
Struggling with choosing a color :confused:

I'll have SA Symbiosis, SA Godspeed, SA Carbon, and SA Pulse that I would like to use on it. Maybe silver might be the best color choice for these sets?

yeah, silver or dark grey.

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« Reply #102 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 19:15:41 »
Struggling with choosing a color :confused:

I'll have SA Symbiosis, SA Godspeed, SA Carbon, and SA Pulse that I would like to use on it. Maybe silver might be the best color choice for these sets?

FWIW, I have a dark grey from the prior round, and I haven't loved the way my Godspeed caps look on it. Too contrasty. (Carbon would be great, though, and I suspect Symbiosis will as well. SA Calm Depths also looks aces on it.)

That said, I'm also planning on picking up either a silver or white CA66 in this round for use with Godspeed and/or Symbiosis.  ;D

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« Reply #103 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 19:38:03 »
Trying to decide on a color myself as well... either for my sa camping set or gmk bluegaloo mods with og dye sub alphas. Too many nice case colors - blue, purple, red, white etc hah.
« Last Edit: Tue, 21 August 2018, 20:11:03 by ramblinrose »

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« Reply #104 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 21:37:52 »
Reassuring then  :thumb:

While I'm at it, anybody has a picture of a non-purple CA66 with SA Hyperfuse? I'd like to have a more polyvalent case than purple but can't decide which one  :rolleyes:
i want to see non-purple Ca66 with SA hyperfuse too :D
I have one new set and didnt use it yet



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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #105 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 21:39:20 »
Struggling with choosing a color :confused:

I'll have SA Symbiosis, SA Godspeed, SA Carbon, and SA Pulse that I would like to use on it. Maybe silver might be the best color choice for these sets?

FWIW, I have a dark grey from the prior round, and I haven't loved the way my Godspeed caps look on it. Too contrasty. (Carbon would be great, though, and I suspect Symbiosis will as well. SA Calm Depths also looks aces on it.)

That said, I'm also planning on picking up either a silver or white CA66 in this round for use with Godspeed and/or Symbiosis.  ;D

White would look really nice and a good throwback for symbiosis!

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 21 August 2018, 23:26:49 »
@PlayKeyboardTW Is there a way I could just get an Alps alum plate and a Brass plate without the default alum plate ?


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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:03:59 »
@PlayKeyboardTW Is there a way I could just get an Alps alum plate and a Brass plate without the default alum plate ?

No sorry. The designer defined case + alu switch plate + PCB as a basic set. :-[

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« Reply #108 on: Wed, 22 August 2018, 00:33:14 »
I thought so, just checking.

@PlayKeyboardTW Is there a way I could just get an Alps alum plate and a Brass plate without the default alum plate ?

No sorry. The designer defined case + alu switch plate + PCB as a basic set. :-[

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« Reply #109 on: Wed, 22 August 2018, 01:29:30 »
Reassuring then  :thumb:

While I'm at it, anybody has a picture of a non-purple CA66 with SA Hyperfuse? I'd like to have a more polyvalent case than purple but can't decide which one  :rolleyes:
i want to see non-purple Ca66 with SA hyperfuse too :D
I have one new set and didnt use it yet

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #110 on: Wed, 22 August 2018, 04:50:20 »
Ordered!

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #111 on: Wed, 22 August 2018, 04:56:13 »
Is there some way to make it more heavy
with me ~1.34kg is to light :(

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 23 August 2018, 11:51:26 »
Is there some way to make it more heavy
with me ~1.34kg is to light :(

There is space inside the case to line with weights if you wanted

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« Reply #113 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 00:41:55 »
Can you share the plate files so I can cut my own alps plate?

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 00:47:44 »
Is there some way to make it more heavy
with me ~1.34kg is to light :(

There is space inside the case to line with weights if you wanted

You can consider to put in a foam for both raising a bit weight and reduce the hollow sound. ;)

Can you share the plate files so I can cut my own alps plate?

It's already uploaded, in R1 GB thread.
We'll put it in here again. :thumb:

Download CA66 files here: https://goo.gl/DXNwqL

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« Reply #115 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 02:38:41 »
Boom. Ordered.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 03:11:25 »
Is there some way to make it more heavy
with me ~1.34kg is to light :(

There is space inside the case to line with weights if you wanted

You can consider to put in a foam for both raising a bit weight and reduce the hollow sound. ;)

Can you share the plate files so I can cut my own alps plate?

It's already uploaded, in R1 GB thread.
We'll put it in here again. :thumb:

Download CA66 files here: https://goo.gl/DXNwqL
which kind of foam that heavy and reduce the hollow sound

BTW that was the old plate, maybe he one the new plate for bluetooth version


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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 05:55:20 »
Is there some way to make it more heavy
with me ~1.34kg is to light :(

There is space inside the case to line with weights if you wanted

You can consider to put in a foam for both raising a bit weight and reduce the hollow sound. ;)

Can you share the plate files so I can cut my own alps plate?

It's already uploaded, in R1 GB thread.
We'll put it in here again. :thumb:

Download CA66 files here: https://goo.gl/DXNwqL
which kind of foam that heavy and reduce the hollow sound

BTW that was the old plate, maybe he one the new plate for bluetooth version

EVA. If you can find a suitable thickness.
But CA66 was intentionally reduced weight when designing.

Alps plate file will be released after GB ends.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 20:39:24 »
Is the dark red going to match the dark red from r1? It was more of a brown than red, which is a good thing IMO.

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« Reply #119 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 21:49:24 »
Is the dark red going to match the dark red from r1? It was more of a brown than red, which is a good thing IMO.

Yes it will be the same. The performance might depends on light sources. :cool:
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« Reply #120 on: Fri, 24 August 2018, 23:57:24 »
Joined the GB!

And now for the wait... :)

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #121 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 11:24:08 »
  • Is the BT PCB USB-C and does it support C to C?
  • Does the BT PCB come with a daughter board for the connector like the default one does?
  • There were mentions of putting the RGB LEDs on a raised daughter board to prevent light bleed. Was this done, and if so, do both the default and BT PCBs have it?
  • Do you have pictures of the different colored alu plates, primarily red?
  • Why did the designer decide that the brass plate wouldn't be an option in the main offering? The alu plate is a waste of money for most people who are getting brass plates.
« Last Edit: Sat, 25 August 2018, 13:56:59 by constexpr »

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #122 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 14:15:18 »
Any idea when we might see a render / sample of the final army green colour on the product page?


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« Reply #123 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 16:03:33 »
Sorry if this has already been answered: If you order a CA66 kit, and then order an extra PCB and plate do we need to pay shipping for the extras, or will they all be shipped together?

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« Reply #124 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 17:21:11 »
Sorry if this has already been answered: If you order a CA66 kit, and then order an extra PCB and plate do we need to pay shipping for the extras, or will they all be shipped together?

IDK about this round, but I would assume it would be the same as last round. Last round everything was packed and shipped together.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #125 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 19:49:17 »
So just to be sure, does the non-BT PCB support flashing firmware using the QMK toolbox?  Meaning its not like the round 1 PCB which could flash a QMK hex file but only with the ydkb.io reflash tool?  If it does support the QMK toolbox, will I have to change the bootloader to use it or will it work out of the box?

Thanks.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 21:57:03 »
  • Is the BT PCB USB-C and does it support C to C?
  • Does the BT PCB come with a daughter board for the connector like the default one does?
  • There were mentions of putting the RGB LEDs on a raised daughter board to prevent light bleed. Was this done, and if so, do both the default and BT PCBs have it?
  • Do you have pictures of the different colored alu plates, primarily red?
  • Why did the designer decide that the brass plate wouldn't be an option in the main offering? The alu plate is a waste of money for most people who are getting brass plates.

About Q1 and Q2, the answer is yes.


BT PCB will remain the same as it was before. Since it's YANG's production, we can't force him to do that mod unless he wants to.


Red plate pic, credit to Oatburner :thumb:
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No comment on his plate decision, but we did send him feedback about this.
He promised he will make a change in his next design. ;)

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #127 on: Sat, 25 August 2018, 22:08:58 »
Any idea when we might see a render / sample of the final army green colour on the product page?

Yes, until we are satisfied with the sample. ;)
We had made a couple of versions, and time by time they were getting close to the green we want.

Sorry if this has already been answered: If you order a CA66 kit, and then order an extra PCB and plate do we need to pay shipping for the extras, or will they all be shipped together?

They will all be shipped together. No additional fees. :thumb:

So just to be sure, does the non-BT PCB support flashing firmware using the QMK toolbox?  Meaning its not like the round 1 PCB which could flash a QMK hex file but only with the ydkb.io reflash tool?  If it does support the QMK toolbox, will I have to change the bootloader to use it or will it work out of the box?

Thanks.

CA66 PCBs are using HID bootloader, not normal dfu. So the original toolbox won't support unless there's an upgrade.
In last round wjchen made a QMK toolbox that supports HID bootloader. :thumb:
You guys can check it out here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2616991#msg2616991

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« Reply #128 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 00:00:17 »
CA66 PCBs are using HID bootloader, not normal dfu. So the original toolbox won't support unless there's an upgrade.
In last round wjchen made a QMK toolbox that supports HID bootloader. :thumb:
You guys can check it out here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93542.msg2616991#msg2616991

Ah, yes.  I read that thread but forgot about wjchen's fork of QMK toolbox that supports HID bootloader.  Did some research and it looks like wjchen's pull request was merged last month and so QMK toolbox will officially support HID.  The only issue is that there hasn't been a new official release since that change (the current latest version is from December 2017).  Hopefully, a new version with HID bootloader support will be release sometime before the round 2 keyboards ship.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #129 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 00:10:10 »
You guys might want to look at the configuration for the online TMK editor, currently it swaps two keys, the up arrow key location of the arrow cluster and the bottom key location of the right hand mod cluster.
it's an easy fix to make everything correct, just assign the up arrow to the bottom right key and the bottom right key to the up arrow location, but it's pretty annoying to have to do that.

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« Reply #130 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 00:41:23 »
You guys might want to look at the configuration for the online TMK editor, currently it swaps two keys, the up arrow key location of the arrow cluster and the bottom key location of the right hand mod cluster.
it's an easy fix to make everything correct, just assign the up arrow to the bottom right key and the bottom right key to the up arrow location, but it's pretty annoying to have to do that.

Hi, I contacted YANG for checking the flaw you said, and there's nothing swapped.
I myself had built several CA66s including from R1 and China GB, and didn't meet the situation you mentioned.

Do you mind to help us check it again? ;)

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #131 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 02:16:44 »
What lighting options can be used with the strip next to the nav column?

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« Reply #132 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 15:47:12 »
You guys might want to look at the configuration for the online TMK editor, currently it swaps two keys, the up arrow key location of the arrow cluster and the bottom key location of the right hand mod cluster.
it's an easy fix to make everything correct, just assign the up arrow to the bottom right key and the bottom right key to the up arrow location, but it's pretty annoying to have to do that.

Hi, I contacted YANG for checking the flaw you said, and there's nothing swapped.
I myself had built several CA66s including from R1 and China GB, and didn't meet the situation you mentioned.

Do you mind to help us check it again? ;)

yeah, I'll help you check it again, let me know what you need me to do.

I flashed a fresh tmk hex download 3 times last night, thinking I had made a mistake.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #133 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 19:51:06 »
What lighting options can be used with the strip next to the nav column?

So many. :eek:

You guys might want to look at the configuration for the online TMK editor, currently it swaps two keys, the up arrow key location of the arrow cluster and the bottom key location of the right hand mod cluster.
it's an easy fix to make everything correct, just assign the up arrow to the bottom right key and the bottom right key to the up arrow location, but it's pretty annoying to have to do that.

Hi, I contacted YANG for checking the flaw you said, and there's nothing swapped.
I myself had built several CA66s including from R1 and China GB, and didn't meet the situation you mentioned.

Do you mind to help us check it again? ;)

yeah, I'll help you check it again, let me know what you need me to do.

I flashed a fresh tmk hex download 3 times last night, thinking I had made a mistake.

 ;D No worries. At least we know it's fine now. :thumb:

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #134 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 20:16:18 »
ONe more QMK related question.  Do the leds work with QMK?

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« Reply #135 on: Sun, 26 August 2018, 20:54:52 »
ONe more QMK related question.  Do the leds work with QMK?

Sure they do. ;)

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #136 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 18:28:50 »
Question: I was a bit confused by the layout pic, does the split spacebar layout only work with the HHKB style CA66 or does it also work with the winkeyless version?

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #137 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 18:30:41 »
Question: I was a bit confused by the layout pic, does the split spacebar layout only work with the HHKB style CA66 or does it also work with the winkeyless version?
Good question. I'm also torn between the two layouts... Can't decide.

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« Reply #138 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 20:10:36 »
Question: I was a bit confused by the layout pic, does the split spacebar layout only work with the HHKB style CA66 or does it also work with the winkeyless version?

I believe it should be fine to do on either layout. My understanding is there is only 1 plate layout and just the top half of the board changes to have either badge or cutout.

Its a hard choice to make though...the badge looks so nice, but I don't think I'd want to give up the extra key.
Split spacebar is what is winning me over to this compared to other options though.
Now just to decide on the colour.

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #139 on: Mon, 27 August 2018, 21:16:08 »
Question: I was a bit confused by the layout pic, does the split spacebar layout only work with the HHKB style CA66 or does it also work with the winkeyless version?

Both versions are using the same plates and PCBs. So the only difference is the extra key on the left control location. ;)

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 14:05:35 »
Just to be absolutely sure: There's no chance to make the pcb hotswappable (with Holtites, Mil Max or anything), right?

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« Reply #141 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 15:08:06 »
 Does anyone know if there's room for a layer of dampening phone between the PCB and the bottom of the case?

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« Reply #142 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 15:58:44 »
Does anyone know if there's room for a layer of dampening phone between the PCB and the bottom of the case?

Yes

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« Reply #143 on: Tue, 28 August 2018, 19:50:54 »
Just to be absolutely sure: There's no chance to make the pcb hotswappable (with Holtites, Mil Max or anything), right?

We don't know about it and never test these two components before.
How do you plan to mount the PCB iin CA66 if it's hotswappable?

Does anyone know if there's room for a layer of dampening phone between the PCB and the bottom of the case?

Yes

Yes. :))

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Re: [GB] CA66 Custom Keyboard Kit Round 2 (GB starts!)
« Reply #144 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 12:05:46 »
Ordered <3
Sadly that i'm think about case color again
You guy have any image compare gray and black, in the same picture
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« Reply #145 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 12:13:43 »
Just to be absolutely sure: There's no chance to make the pcb hotswappable (with Holtites, Mil Max or anything), right?

We don't know about it and never test these two components before.
How do you plan to mount the PCB iin CA66 if it's hotswappable?


Perhaps soldering 4 switches, but I think the sockets have enough friction that mounting isn't needed. I have some hotswap boards without screws and no problems at all.

Do you know the diameter of the holes?

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« Reply #146 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 13:08:07 »
Just to be absolutely sure: There's no chance to make the pcb hotswappable (with Holtites, Mil Max or anything), right?

We don't know about it and never test these two components before.
How do you plan to mount the PCB iin CA66 if it's hotswappable?

Does anyone know if there's room for a layer of dampening phone between the PCB and the bottom of the case?

Yes

Yes. :))

Friction will hold it. 68 switches are easily enough to hold the PCB in the air. I have 4+ boards like that.

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« Reply #147 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 17:59:44 »
Finally put in my order for grey/blue bluetooth with extra brass plate and a extra normal pcb! Let the wait begin.

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« Reply #148 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 20:55:51 »
Just to be absolutely sure: There's no chance to make the pcb hotswappable (with Holtites, Mil Max or anything), right?

We don't know about it and never test these two components before.
How do you plan to mount the PCB iin CA66 if it's hotswappable?


Perhaps soldering 4 switches, but I think the sockets have enough friction that mounting isn't needed. I have some hotswap boards without screws and no problems at all.

Do you know the diameter of the holes?

The hole is 1.3mm, and 2,3mm with pad. :thumb:

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« Reply #149 on: Thu, 30 August 2018, 05:21:46 »
Just for clarification purposes as I'm on the fence on buying either another CA66 or just an extra pcb:

The default pcb now supports programmable RGB LEDs, correct? The previous pcb wasn't programmable, just a light strip, if I remember it correctly.

How is the USB-C connector on YANG's BT pcb? I understand it's not on a daughter board so how is the fit when not using BT and using the USB-C connector instead.

Reeeally interested in that white CA66, even though I already have the luxurious dark red since last round. :cool: