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[IC] TGR Alice PCB (GB Live, Update: ARM MCU)
« on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:56:20 »
Update: 03/09

Update: The designs for the PCB has been migrated to professional company that has been designing PCBs for 25+ years. It has come to my understanding that exercising business, without a legal contract and clear timelines, can be tricky. Permission to run this group buy/preorder has been approved twice. Once upon the inital 20-50 unit run and again when I realized that I needed to move the project to a full production order to fulfill the overwhelming interest and responses from the community. Honestly, after recent events, I was debating whether to cancel the group buy or not. However, I did not want to disappoint the community and break my promise to get these PCBs to you. I am limiting the quantity of the units being made to 200 to ensure fulfillment to my supporters. A second round is uncertain and will not happen unless I get another approval. Thank you guys for your support.
You may order these PCBs here: https://store.projectkeyboard.com/products/preorder-tgr-alice-pcb. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact me.




Hey Everyone,

This is an interest check for a TGR Alice compatible PCB and acrylic case. Yuktsi has graciously provided the files and replacement pcbs will be made.


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PCB IC Form: https://goo.gl/forms/du5ikq150OqvWlnK2

Specifications:
  • TGR Alice compatible PCB
  • Powered by ARM MCU
  • QMK programmable
  • No underglow Underglow soldered
  • In-switch LED support
  • MX & ALPS support
  • USB mini (c not possible due to cutouts)
  • Units: 35 (maximum) Running through a fab
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Shipping:
  • US proxy
  • EU proxy






I have moved the plates to GB
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Plates:




Carbon Fiber (MX Only):
  • Specs: 1.5mm matte black w/ twill weave
  • MOQ: 10
  • Lead: 1mo after GB close (est)
Polycarbonate(MX Only):
  • Specs: 1.5mm clear
  • MOQ: 30
  • Lead: 1mo after GB close (est)
Shipping:
  • Shipped from US
Comments:
  • If you would like to see an ALPs plate added, you will need to provide the file.
  • Very likely to run GB of plates first



Update (02/21)



If you plan on making your own acrylic plates here are your options:

Yuktsi's original case files: here

Or

Lubrigante: A TGR Alice Acrylic Case Revision By Zambumon

You can find the open source documentation here, but keep in mind that it is a work in progress.
NOTE: Please do not try the files until this issue is closed. Thanks.




Notes:
  • Photo/color is for display purpose at the moment, we will be going over solder mask options later on.
  • Would like your feedback on the alps support layout of the PCB.
  • Underglow support added.
  • I will post more updates soon.



Thanks,
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Updates:
01/21: Requested quotes for PC & CF plates
01/25: PCB units increased, added ALPs support to PCB
01/25: Plate MOQ added, PC changed to clear (lead + qc decision), waiting for CF sample (est. 3 weeks)
01/27: Plate IC has been moved to https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98385.0 which will hold the GB thread.
02/21: PCB Design complete. Acrylic cases added.
03/03: Withdrawn Acrylic case from gb due to QC/Fulfillment discrepancies.



Responses to Questions/Comments submitted:

C: Wish that it included support for in-switch LED.
R: Sorry, but I would like to keep the costs low as possible for this run.

C: Anodized aluminum plates please.
R: I want us to hit the best MOQ prices. Offering too many option may reduce MOQ breaks.

C: Would prefer if it wasn't green and, shedding as much outer perimeter pcb that isn't needed.
R: I would like to keep the pcb shape as close to the original as possible. For color, if it doesn't affect the cost and majority wants a specific color we can look into it.

C: Would it be possible to add iso left shift and maybe a type of iso enter. Could be a numpad enter.
R: I would prefer not to change the original design.

C: Pls make hotswap.
R: More parts, more monies. DIY hotswap solutions are available.

C: Make it as bare bones as possible to keep costs down.
R: Yup, that is the plan.

C: If you could make an alps compatible version... omg.
R: Yes, I spoke to Maarten and he has agreed to add ALPs support to the pcb.

C: Would it be possible to just get the pcb?
R: Absolutely. You are not obligated to bundle the pcb and plate.
« Last Edit: Sat, 09 March 2019, 10:34:57 by onefivenine »

Offline dimo

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[IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 12:57:55 »
Yes pls

Iíll get a PC plate as well if they both happen

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:01:57 »
Please bundle with a TGR Alice. K thx.

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:04:06 »
Yes.
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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:08:54 »
Yes please

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:16:18 »
Interested.
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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:30:08 »
im in

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:30:50 »
Oof got some extra PCB but they ain't qmk, in.

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:30:57 »
Yes pls

Iíll get a PC plate as well if they both happen

I have a carbon fiber one being produced atm. If you guys are interested I can add as an option.

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:31:19 »
Would love a 3d printed Alice, which if available id defo be down for this GB

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:32:21 »
Yes pls

Iíll get a PC plate as well if they both happen

I have a carbon fiber one being produced atm. If you guys are interested I can add as an option.

is that uncorrelated with puddsyís?


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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:40:12 »
Yes pls

Iíll get a PC plate as well if they both happen

I have a carbon fiber one being produced atm. If you guys are interested I can add as an option.

is that uncorrelated with puddsyís?


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Correct. I am getting a personal plate made for myself and will check qc when it arrives. I would not consider it as an alternative to Puddsy's IC yet and I will be communicating with him to make sure that I am not interfering with his IC.
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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:42:53 »
Wait a minute

So youre saying if I get this PCB

The case/plate files are available for printing

I can essentially make my own Alice?
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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:46:23 »
Would get it


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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:47:49 »
I would get one just to try the layout lul

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 13:56:02 »
Wait a minute

So youre saying if I get this PCB

The case/plate files are available for printing

I can essentially make my own Alice?

I am not familiar with the printed cases. This PCB will be tested and fitted only to the one from the group buy.

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:00:15 »
What if I told you I had already done it...

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:08:53 »
What if I told you I had already done it...

Would you be willing to run a group buy?

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:13:52 »
What if I told you I had already done it...

Would you be willing to run a group buy?

That has been my plan, I just finished putting together the first one today and have it all flashed in QMK, just was gonna clean up the code a bit then get it added.

Seems I got beat to the punch on the IC side of things!

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:21:32 »
I would pick one up for sure, whoever makes it

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:22:24 »
What if I told you I had already done it...
Then I would say it's a nice project, well done :thumb:

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:28:54 »
What if I told you I had already done it...

Would you be willing to run a group buy?

That has been my plan, I just finished putting together the first one today and have it all flashed in QMK, just was gonna clean up the code a bit then get it added.

Seems I got beat to the punch on the IC side of things!

Congrats! Having more options is better for the community ;)

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 14:39:50 »
I didnít make mine as a replacement pcb, Iíd need to add the 2 holes, (could easily be added) for mounting with the original case. I really wanted an Alice, but wasnít sure I would like the layout, or not having QMK, so I threw this together over the winter holidays with an acrylic case to test it out before I go throw $1k at a used Alice 😂

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 15:17:42 »
PC plates will probably happen with this GB instead of my own because I am lazy and onefiftynine offered to do it.
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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 15:22:42 »
Interested if there's a PC plate offered too.

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 15:39:33 »
Interested in both pcb and pc plate

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 16:33:24 »
PC plates will probably happen with this GB instead of my own because I am lazy and onefiftynine offered to do it.

I will get quotes based on your last update from the thread:
40 polycarbonate
15 carbon fiber

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice QMK PCB | Plate (PC & CF)
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 17:17:17 »
Yes.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 17:24:42 »
I will got both!

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 19:48:02 »
Interested in cf for sure

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 20:21:07 »
I had a CF one recently made!

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I haven't built on it yet, so I'm not 100% if its durable. Let me know what to look for to check if its viable.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:32:55 »
Yes, please. Very interested  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] TGR Alice compatible PCB
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 21:34:27 »
PC plates will probably happen with this GB instead of my own because I am lazy and onefiftynine offered to do it.

I will get quotes based on your last update from the thread:
40 polycarbonate
15 carbon fiber

It's basically the same still
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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 20 January 2019, 23:52:45 »
I would also be in, since I wasnĎt able to grab an Alice and would also try to make a DIY project.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 05:37:33 »
Iím in.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 05:53:34 »
Case & PCB it is then
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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 16:16:11 »
How thick is the polycarbonate plate going to be?

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:12:37 »
interested in pcb+pc plate

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:13:35 »
How thick is the polycarbonate plate going to be?

1.5mm i imagine
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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:56:47 »
How thick is the polycarbonate plate going to be?

1.5mm i imagine

Yup, will be getting quotes for 1.5mm plates.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 19:50:43 »
Added updates section to initial post and responses to questions and comments submitted through the form.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 00:19:26 »
Sign me up please!

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 03:58:46 »
I'm in for a PCB and Plate :)

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 12:04:14 »
Interested!

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 14:31:51 »
Count me in for a PCB and PC plate.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:42:03 »
Could you make the PCB Alps compatible?

...Or could you make an Alps PCB?
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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #46 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 19:42:53 »
^no pls

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 21:55:47 »
I'm so in on this.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 23 January 2019, 08:17:46 »
Is this still going to be limited to 20 orders only?
I am so in for this.

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Re: [IC] PCB & PC/CF plate for TGR Alice
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 23 January 2019, 08:32:12 »
Iím in!