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Intro
This will be an IC for thick PBT dyesub sets, in classic (Light grey mods & beige alphas) base color. Profile will be Cherry.

Originative Co. will be handling the logistics (Taking orders, shipping, etc). I will be assisting in the design phase. Pre-orders will be done on his storefront. Until then, I will be the POC, and following the pre-orders, Originative.

We are targeting to make this available at USD 70-90.


On offer
There will be one kit only, which will consist of the following keys (Total 130 keys):
- 104 Basic ANSI kit, homing keys will be scoops with bars
- 1 Mod colored R1 tilde
- 3 Windowed caps (Num Lock, Scroll Lock, Stepped Caps Lock)
- 7 Key WKL compatibility kit (2x 1.5U Control, 2x 1.5U Alt, 2x 1u Win key, 7u Spacebar)
- 5 key HHKB compatibility kit (Full Touch 1.75U R3 Control, 1u R1 \|, 1u R4 Fn, 1.75u R4 Shift, 1.5u Backspace)
- 4 key 65%/75% compatibility kit (R1 Del, R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn, R4 End)
- 2 key 1800 compatibility kit (1u R4 Num0, 1u R4 Num+)
- 4 key 1u bottom row mods (2x 1U Ctrl, 2x 1U Alt)
(There is no ISO kit, however a supplementary kit will be available to order in the future. The primary reason for this is the lack of tooling for an ISO enter key)


Languages and MOQ
Due to the nature of the MOQ, we will only be having a number of legend designs, however we can have a manageable number of colorways for the legends. We have shortlisted the following for layouts on offer:
- Classic
- Arabic
- Hangul
- Japanese
- Russian
(NOTE: At this stage the languages (Legend options) have been decided on, so please do not request other layouts, they might happen at a later date, but no this round. We can discuss these elsewhere.

I'll be working with the community to ensure the legends for the foreign characters are correct weight, size and aligned for the final set. What we are looking from you are the different legend color/color combinations you'd like to buy.

Poll
Please vote for the color options you are interested in buying:
http://goo.gl/forms/GtVNnK2OitLbM9Kv1
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 May 2016, 08:26:29 by MOZ »

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:38:54 »
Variants

Simple
- Black
136614-0

- Dark Blue
136610-1

- Deep Red
136620-2

- Forest Green
136612-3

- Purple
136618-4

- Orange
136616-5




Arabic
- Black (E) and Dark Blue (A)
136604-6

- Black (E) and Green (A)
136606-7

- Black (E) and Gold (A)
136683-8




Hangul
- Black (E) and Red (H)
136634-9

- Black (E) and Blue (H)
136632-10

- Blue (E) and Red (H)
136628-11

- Cyan (E) and Pink (H)
136687-12

- Black (E) and Purple (H)
137639-13




Japanese
- Black (E) and Red (J)
137637-14

- Red-Pink (E) and Black (J)
136679-15

- Purple (E) and Cyan (J)
136677-16

- Blue (E) and Red (J)
137641-17

- Black (E) and Black (J)
137643-18




Russian
- Black(E) and Red(R)
136640-19

- Black(E) and Orange(R)
136638-20

- Cyan(E) and Pink(R)
136685-21
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:39:02 »
Work In Progress

Nothing right now.
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 10:39:10 »
Updates

- Added tentative pricing (70-75), profile details (cherry) and homing key details (scoops with bars)
- Added R1 1u Del key
- Added Classic and Arabic final versions (Colors TBD)
- Added Hangul and Russian final versions (Colors TBD)
- Added Japanese final version (Colors TBD)
- Modified color of cyan to be closer to GMK TU2
- Modified color of gold in Arabic set for better legibility
- Scrapped Red-Black Japanese set as it was too close to Red\Pink-Black, instead added Purple-Cyan
« Last Edit: Tue, 10 May 2016, 05:18:41 by MOZ »

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:16:08 »
These kits looks good, but are there any chances for a no OS specific key? Like a Diamond, Star, GH, or something like that?

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:18:00 »
These kits looks good, but are there any chances for a no OS specific key? Like a Diamond, Star, GH, or something like that?

We had a similar discussion on another thread, most likely, we'll be sticking to the classic monotone win key for the Classic, Arabic and Cyrillic sets. Japanese will get a big dot and rose of sharon for the Hangul.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:28:34 »
Definitely interested!
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 11:57:04 »
If the Hangul fonts aren't a bunch of twigs like EnjoyPBT's current caps & the Japanese set doesn't look like the PBT4 one that would be great.

Very interested tho :)


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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:00:52 »
They'll be different, we'll be using a more oriental version of the Hangul font. For Japanese well be using a slightly thicker version of a Gothic font, one that matches the Cherry legends in weight.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:03:49 »
I don't need more sets.. especially after EnjoyPBT.. but I do love those windows keys.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:05:52 »
Great initative. So glad that originative have grabbed a hold of your design talents  :cool: :cool:

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:07:02 »
I am interested, glad to see HHKB layout support!

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:07:53 »
I am interested, glad to see HHKB layout support!
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:10:23 »
wow this is great IC MOZ :cool:
so will this japanese set happen? :p



im in for this  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:10:30 »
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

I have an MX board  ^-^

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:11:48 »
Black and blue Arabic would be perfect.


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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:12:16 »
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

I have an MX board  ^-^
But for how long :-X

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:16:26 »
Nick these only work on MX boards, not Topre.

I have an MX board  ^-^

And there's a few Topre mx sliders out there.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:18:21 »
wow this is great IC MOZ :cool:
so will this japanese set happen? :p

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im in for this  :thumb:
Yes, that's the Japanese font we'll be using.

Great initative. So glad that originative have grabbed a hold of your design talents  :cool: :cool:
Thanks
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:19:53 »
interested~
so will the hangul keycaps look something like the imsto hangul cherry keycaps?



I wish there was a black (E) cyan (H) colorway

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:23:17 »
Yeah, that's the default MS font for Hangul, Gungsuh, which we'll be using.

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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:30:13 »
Yeah, that's the default MS font for Hangul, Gungsuh, which we'll be using.

sweet c: is there an estimate on pricing rn?

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 12:50:41 »
They'll be different, we'll be using a more oriental version of the Hangul font. For Japanese well be using a slightly thicker version of a Gothic font, one that matches the Cherry legends in weight.

Perfect :)

Very excited for this.


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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 13:35:35 »
Oh nice, finally a source for hiragana caps. If the price is not GMK-level I'm definitely in.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 13:56:20 »
Any idea how much that's going to cost?

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 14:03:42 »
I can't comment on exact pricing, I'll ask Sheraton to chip in with that information, but I can tell you it most likely will be sub-$100.

We deliberated about ISO, complete 1800 support, etc, but decided on the current offering to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 15:08:54 »
I can't comment on exact pricing, I'll ask Sheraton to chip in with that information, but I can tell you it most likely will be sub-$100.

We deliberated about ISO, complete 1800 support, etc, but decided on the current offering to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

A shame, would buy if there was a nordic/ISO kit.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 15:43:54 »
I can't comment on exact pricing, I'll ask Sheraton to chip in with that information, but I can tell you it most likely will be sub-$100.

We deliberated about ISO, complete 1800 support, etc, but decided on the current offering to keep the price as reasonable as possible.

A shame, would buy if there was a nordic/ISO kit.

Same, I wish it was easier to get ISO PBT kits
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:00:56 »
As I mentioned in the OP, *not making any promises*, we will try to get a supplementary kit for ISO users that they can add to their main order. ISO enter is a bit of an issue.

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« Reply #29 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:45:15 »
I will definitely order a set if arabic is an option. I would love black english alphas with blue arabic sublegends personally.
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 16:52:41 »
Beautiful! I really like the win logo in this set, and I definitely appreciate the extra keys that will be available
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 17:02:08 »
interested~
so will the hangul keycaps look something like the imsto hangul cherry keycaps?

Show Image


I wish there was a black (E) cyan (H) colorway

Yeah, that's the default MS font for Hangul, Gungsuh, which we'll be using.

Noiceee if the colors don't clash and the font is nice and thick like that, I'll be in for a set.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 17:52:09 »
Love your mockups! This could be promising. Are you still working out the details, or do you know who will be doing the dyesubbing?

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 17:54:57 »
Would dark blue and deep red match Olivetti and Red Alert colors?

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 18:28:17 »
Interested!

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 18:47:08 »
Always interested in another source of these!

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:44:36 »
Interested in Hangul :)
Who would be the manufacturer btw if you don't don't mind me asking?
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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:54:17 »
Interested

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« Reply #38 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:55:13 »
Interested in Hangul :)
Who would be the manufacturer btw if you don't don't mind me asking?


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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 19:57:41 »
Interested in Hangul :)
Who would be the manufacturer btw if you don't don't mind me asking?


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Ah okay. Must have missed that.
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« Reply #40 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:02:20 »
1 set should run from $70-75


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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:16:20 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:17:52 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

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« Reply #43 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:29:34 »
I will be in for a Hangul and probably a hiragana.

And while it probably wouldn't end up being popular enough, I would really, really like the Hangul set to be purple/cyan. Just throwing that out in case anyone thinks like I do.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:34:21 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:35:26 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

That & they don't make 1.25 ctrl + alt etc.

I don't use em but a lot of people do compared to wkl.


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« Reply #46 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:42:09 »
Arabic!

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:53:30 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:57:59 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.
In stock? Cause I've been searching for a sets

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Re: [IC] {Originative Co.} Thick PBT Dual Tone Dyesub Keysets
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 03 May 2016, 20:59:46 »
i like this, but what about BSP PBT instead of enjoyPBT?
BSP PBT is more comfortable and more expensive.
Ew nipples ans they don't have thatvmuch variety

yes ,i know BSP has less keys and some crooked keycap moulds(already improving a lot).
i have seen and used PBT sets made from the author of enjoyPBT on Sublimation. He does pretty well on Sublimation and is good on sublimation technique but is limited to the inferior enjoyPBT. BSP PBT has higher  quality. we could choose BSP as main keys and enjoyPBT as secondary choice which BSP doesn't have.
The price is probably high but i accept that

I have many BSP sets, classic beige style with black, blue, green, or red legends!

Sets only include 85 keys with no space bars.
In stock? Cause I've been searching for a sets

Yeah, but I'm not in the US right now. It's a little hard to ship. I'll update more soon.