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Offline snurrebassen

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[IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:26:55 »



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Hello I'm very excited to share a keyboard I've been working on.
I'm a graphic designer/3D artist, and I've been into keyboards for a few years now. I've been experimenting my way with building a variety of keyboards,
trying to find what I like best, like we all do. I've been working with a friend of mine, w3bb0, who's doing the PCB design and together we wanted to make a 40% TKL Style keyboard.
However we decided to move over to a bit more functional and accessible layout.



A TKL styled 60% keyboard:




Note: The design isn't final and will most likely change slightly during the process.


  • Gasket mount
  • Seamless
  • Indicator LEDs
  • Clean underside
  • Internal weight
  • Centered USB-port
  • 7 degree typing angle











GMK Apollo by octix





I'm focusing on achieving beautiful aesthetics, a solid and compact sound and a pleasant typing feel.
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
I really want to try to cover the main alternative layouts, such as split shift, split backspace and maybe even WKL, depending on responses of the form.



Moving forward:


☑ Listen to feedback and finish the design
☐ Order first prototype of PCB
☑ Order prototypes of the case in various colors
☐ Implement changes based on how the prototype looks, feels and sounds
☐ Start GB process
☐ Experience delays and setbacks but push on

















Thank you for checking in! If you are interested and would like to give me some input, follow this google form here:
https://forms.gle/t2dC8nTKbojewkMQ7



« Last Edit: Tue, 24 March 2020, 03:41:36 by snurrebassen »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:39:45 »
nice!

since cygnus is most likely not going to happen anymore i'm definitely interested in this one!  :D

Edit: It would be nice to be able to select more than one color and plate option in the IC form :)
« Last Edit: Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:47:40 by elmo »

Offline Nonnegaard

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:02:07 »
I absolutely LOVE this! Wouldn't it be considered a 65%, though?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:02:48 »
Congrats on the design, I like it so much.

2 questions:

Will it be ALPS compatible? I see that the PCB is, but will you do the plates as well?
Will you include the possibility to do split spacebar?

Offline Quinella

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:06:00 »
another frl tkl surfaces

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:12:30 »
With HHKB blocker option, this would rival TMO50 as my favourite layout.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:21:10 »
Oof, interested!!!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:42:17 »
Finally new F-row less TKL! YEEEEESSSSSS!!!! :D

Few things - how high is front? Like 18mm or so? I hope not too high.

Would you consider some dark grey or dark blue colors?

Will there be hot-swap option or just solder?
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:58:04 »
A couple of questions after looking at the design.

Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?

If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?

I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.
« Last Edit: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:02:36 by wholypantalones »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:06:43 »
V nice

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:08:52 »
Stainless steel case option & hot swap PCB.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:10:27 »
ne wkl renders avail and compatibility with cygnus pcb?
« Last Edit: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:13:26 by GaNeBaL »
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:11:07 »
Oh I love this absolutely

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« Reply #13 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:49:01 »
Hell yes; I like this a lot. The only thing I'm not so sure about, but I'm sure you're not gonna change it, is the rounded corners. I prefer a squarer board but not enough to put me off purchasing!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 07:53:35 »
Honestly, a pretty tight layout, good job mate  :thumb:

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 09:00:32 »
Got me split with the hiney tkl one with this beaut. Pros and cons for both.

Really digging this layout idea. Form needs to be tweaked slightly tho, as what some other users have mentioned!! Super hyped

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:03:05 »
This is a definite buy for me if the corners are changed to a more square shape. AND, show off the weight, or just add in the logo/detail onto the bottom piece. I hate it when a KB hides a beautiful weight inside the case.

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« Reply #17 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:07:09 »
Just to counter, I'm definitely a fan of hidden weights that you never see anyway. Honestly if it cuts down on the cost, it doesn't need to be engraved either, though a symbol/badge on the outside would be cool.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:13:28 »
Really digging this idea. Can't wait to see the progress.



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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:16:38 »
ne wkl renders avail and compatibility with cygnus pcb?
No, I'm afraid not! We are not associated or working with the Cygnus creators, we're making our own PCB! Will do WKL and HHKB renders soon!

nice!

since cygnus is most likely not going to happen anymore i'm definitely interested in this one!  :D

Edit: It would be nice to be able to select more than one color and plate option in the IC form :)

Done! Thanks for the heads up!

Congrats on the design, I like it so much.

2 questions:

Will it be ALPS compatible? I see that the PCB is, but will you do the plates as well?
Will you include the possibility to do split spacebar?

Thank you and good to hear!

I think we can look into making alps an option for sure, I would be happy to include more folks!
I don't rule it out doing a split spacbar layout an option in the final GB!

Finally new F-row less TKL! YEEEEESSSSSS!!!! :D

Few things - how high is front? Like 18mm or so? I hope not too high.

Would you consider some dark grey or dark blue colors?

Will there be hot-swap option or just solder?

- The front is now 20mm, but i'm gonna try squeeze it down to 18 if I can! It's definitely more optimal to have it around 18mm for sure.
- Yes maybe, very possible!
- For now we're only looking at a solderable PCB, but nothing is certain yet.

A couple of questions after looking at the design.

Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?

If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?

I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.
Right now the PCB renders are mostly to visualize the silk design, so yes in the end we are going to support PCB mounted switches as well.
I've gone ahead and looked at multiple keyboard mounting types, trying out different ideas. This one is inspired by the Oxalys mounting system, by Salvun. It was just a mounting system I became very curious about trying. The plate isn't directly screwed onto the bottom, it will be held tightly together by the screws holding the top and bottom together.

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Thank you for all your interest and comments!
« Last Edit: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:20:15 by snurrebassen »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:51:43 »
another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:57:07 »
Would love to see this in like 3-5į option instead of 7į. To me, 7 works fine for GMK but is too steep for SA and 0-5 works well for SA.

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« Reply #22 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 11:01:10 »
Love the rounded corners, awesome design mate!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 11:37:48 »
The plate seems to indicate forced full backspace but the pcb looks like it has the option for split?

Will the plate support split backspace or will it be fixed backspace?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 12:04:35 »
I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

« Last Edit: Thu, 20 February 2020, 12:07:45 by NoxNoxNox »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 12:51:46 »
A couple of questions after looking at the design.

Are those plate mount stabilizer holes or does it support both pcb and plate mount?

If this is a sandwich gasket mount, the top is removable and the weight is internal, why is there a removable plate that screws into the bottom? Why not make the bottom seamless instead?

I went to fill out the interest check form and it only lets me choose one color and one plate material. It would be nice if you could choose more than one color and plate material.

I'm definitely into this layout!! Please allow for pcb-mount/screw-in stabilizers. Zeal screw-in stabs are incredible and I put them on every board that I can. Also, I agree that the internal weight isn't necessary. The board will still be plenty solid without a built in weight.
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:01:08 »
Also, while this is a small detail, I've always had better luck with strips of rubber on the bottom of the case rather than small rounds. For example all Rama Works boards that I can think of and the NovelKeys NK65 have two strips of rubber running the length of the keyboard rather than four dots in the corners. While the Keycult No 2 kept four pads rather than 2, it went from dots to strips. I find that the strips give the board more traction and are less likely to accidentally come off. I also personally think strips look significantly better/more premium than the dots, in part I guess because the dots can be purchased at any hardware store. I'm not sure how well this would work with the layout of screws on the bottom of the case, but I thought I'd share.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:13:37 »
I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

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I second this. It would also allow for a bit more physical separation of the arrow key cluster, which at least to me is a plus.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:39:47 »
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(

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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:47:21 »
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:00:29 »
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Definitely agree with points two and three. I'm fine with the bezels either way.

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:42:47 »
Oof this is nice


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:24:55 »
Had no idea j was looking for this till just now. I agree with the internal weight design. It would be nice on the outside. But iirc abec did something similar with the 45-ATS. I think to keep a cleaner body. I'm about this either way.

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:29:22 »
Great design.  Simple and elegant.  Love the corner radius and bezel widths.  Clean bottom is nice too (i mean... twss?)

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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:47:05 »
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(
idk that there would be space for the gaskets if the outer bezel was smaller?

I'm here for matching the bezel size with the between-clusters space if possible

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 16:23:23 »
Personal I'd rather have the outer bezel be smaller and keep the form compact. But I'm just one nobody :(
idk that there would be space for the gaskets if the outer bezel was smaller?

I'm here for matching the bezel size with the between-clusters space if possible
That's a good point. Didn't think about that. I still like it thin. Feel like it fits the theme of a slimmer TKL

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« Reply #36 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 16:28:36 »
I think this is the board I saw on instagram? if so very nice! will be watching
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #37 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 18:07:00 »
I love this so much

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« Reply #38 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 19:28:30 »
Very nice design!!! Loving the F-rowless tkl layout for sure!
That removable plate on the bottom tho? If you got it show it off and put it on the keebutt lol.
Looks great either way. Ill def be following this one!

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« Reply #39 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 20:18:37 »
I made an account just to say that this layout and design is wonderful.

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 01:04:25 »
I'm just imagining the WKL version

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 01:16:34 »
I liked the Blackbird layout when I bought into the GB awhile ago but realized the numpad wasn't entirely necessary. If I didn't play my one game that requires the F-row I'd be in on this, but I really think that this layout is very practical and I appreciate its design.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 01:24:56 »
I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

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+1 for this.

Or just in general making the gaps consistent with one another. Otherwise, super interested and this is super cute!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 03:06:42 »
Yep, matching thick bezels would be nice. So middle one a bit wider to match outer one.
Maybe bottom plate could be seamless as well? Like, even with edges?
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 03:53:41 »
another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.

edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:00:41 »
I really liked the idea and design. I'm in this one depending on the price, of course  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:04:10 »
Also, while this is a small detail, I've always had better luck with strips of rubber on the bottom of the case rather than small rounds. For example all Rama Works boards that I can think of and the NovelKeys NK65 have two strips of rubber running the length of the keyboard rather than four dots in the corners. While the Keycult No 2 kept four pads rather than 2, it went from dots to strips. I find that the strips give the board more traction and are less likely to accidentally come off. I also personally think strips look significantly better/more premium than the dots, in part I guess because the dots can be purchased at any hardware store. I'm not sure how well this would work with the layout of screws on the bottom of the case, but I thought I'd share.

Thank you for your comment here and on the google form! I have already thought about looking into strips instead of circular bumpers. It wouldn't make sense to have cheap bumpers on a premium board like this, so I'm most definitely gonna look into it!
Oh and screw in stabs support is definitely coming!

I like this style of board quite a bit;

Out of curiosity - have you considered making the gap between the main block and the nav cluster/arrow keys wider to match the bezel?

Show Image


Yes, after a lot of comments on it, I realize i haven't thought about that fact. I'm gonna look into changing it, see how it looks. Will post new pictures once I've worked on it! :)

The plate seems to indicate forced full backspace but the pcb looks like it has the option for split?

Will the plate support split backspace or will it be fixed backspace?

w3bb0 told me he can make this work, so yes. Gonna try make split backspace!

I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Yes, I will most definitely not do this on my own, hahah! I'm already working with mykeyboard.eu with another project, and they will be working with me on this one too.
And yes, going to reconsider the weight. Having an engraved internal weight doesn't make as much sense. Might look into having it as an option and instead engrave the top part somehow.


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:08:17 »
I'm just imagining the WKL version

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Soon you won't have to imagine it! Gonna do some more renders of alternative layouts next week.

another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.

edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic

thank you, glad to hear that. And i agree. I'm kinda surprised we don't have more of this layout.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 04:15:42 »
I'm just imagining the WKL version

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Soon you won't have to imagine it! Gonna do some more renders of alternative layouts next week.

another frl tkl surfaces

If you don't like it then how about you just ignore it lmao

And it's not like there are too many boards with this layout around...

hey idiot where in that sentence did i negatively criticize the board, im quite happy theres more frl tkls coming out because i love the layout.

edit: im hoping this board does well gl with ic

thank you, glad to hear that. And i agree. I'm kinda surprised we don't have more of this layout.
If we can achieve WKL AND split spacebar (as I saw it's an idea on the IC) I'll just have to throw my money at you

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 07:36:20 »
Iím such a sucker for seamless case design. Iím not even usually into TKL but not having the F row just makes it that much more attractive to me. Iím probably in


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:36:28 »
Looking forward to this!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:48:32 »
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbers

Offline lunr

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:52:36 »
definitely add wkl version.

Offline Zeelobby

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:58:54 »
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbers
Feel like that's just the way it has to be these days with the massive influx of people. Only a couple of boards as or late have been open ended group buys

Offline waymon

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:28:32 »
Hope to join this as my first group buy.  Beautiful board

Offline Jaltr

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:41:37 »
Yeah, it makes total sense. Maybe I'm too slow for these limited quantity gbs.
« Last Edit: Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:43:35 by Jaltr »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:08:46 »

Offline ptrick3

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:12:47 »
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.

Offline Shutter_Shock

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:32:26 »
definitely add wkl version.

This.

If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please.  ;)

Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 14:14:37 »
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.
Thanks for the heads up! I apparently set it to expire after one day. Fixed now!

definitely add wkl version.

This.

If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please.  ;)

Looking into making a 6.25u WKL version, so that I can put it on the same plate as the standard layout.
« Last Edit: Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:11:28 by snurrebassen »

Offline FRANCO

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:08:48 »
I'm in!


Offline astronavy

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:15:53 »
wow, looks cool and solid, and gasket in addition!

Offline Agpatel

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 09:05:00 »
Very interested in this! Love to see a hot swap option.

Offline zekth

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 09:30:56 »
You got my feedback ;)  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 10:55:24 »
FYI: this layout is called "70%". (Actually, it is one of several layouts called "70%")

Is 1.5mm PC plate durable enough?

Designed in Norway, and no ISO support?! No support for stepped Caps Lock?!
I'm happy to see that the USB port is broken out to a separate PCB.
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Offline Zeelobby

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 11:02:30 »
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.

Offline MajorKoos

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 12:17:29 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 12:30:55 »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 13:16:45 »
IC filled out! I really really really like this.

Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
« Last Edit: Sun, 23 February 2020, 15:13:56 by DrHigsby »

Offline Shutter_Shock

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 23:35:21 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

Offline Randalljai

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 00:38:28 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Offline Shutter_Shock

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:00:58 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.

Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:07:00 »
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.

I just realized this! Gonna change it for the GB at least, sounds so much better.

IC filled out! I really really really like this.

Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
Thank you for filling it out! <3

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:25:16 »
Filled out the IC form a couple of days ago but keep coming back to look at the nice renders! I hope this lilac colour will make it as an option for the GB...  haven't dared get a purple board yet but that colour looks mighty nice in the render at least.

Offline Zeelobby

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:26:00 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.

Offline frob

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 04:29:12 »
Does it support ISO?
If so, I'm definitely interested.

Offline Migi

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:50:24 »
...
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
...

Offline MajorKoos

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:51:24 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.

I also prefer winkey, but it's less of a mouthful to pronounce.

Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 05:37:14 »
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.




This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb
« Last Edit: Thu, 27 February 2020, 05:39:14 by snurrebassen »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:12:45 »
It all looks amazing, looking forward to it :)
Hopefully you will be able to run this GB this year, like maybe Q2-3, to get it done and delivered by Q4.
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Offline yhehdgjs

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:41:55 »
Interesting board!

Would like to see with some badge on the board rather than the names.
« Last Edit: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:50:29 by yhehdgjs »

Offline Joeni

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 08:24:08 »
I'm so in!

I love the look of this, having just the 60% keys with the nav and arrow clusters makes it look very sleek and tidy.

Offline tuxkey

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 15:42:35 »
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Definitely agree with points two and three. I'm fine with the bezels either way.

One of my first thoughts was how would it look with a bit more space between the arrow cluster say same thickness as the bezels.
Just out of curiosity..
but the one thing i would like to see is this board at KBDfans.. or at least a eu proxy..
for the weight i would save that ÄÄ so it's more affordable to all of us.
You made such a clean design really good looking now keep the price as low as you can without sacrificing to much..
Good luck and my compliments on the design.. i'm truly impressed

Offline tuxkey

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 16:11:33 »
Have bin looking at a couple of other active options.. like the Primatech, the Hiney tkl one, the EO-87..
And when i ask myself which one would you want to see on your desk .. ?? it's this one..
But i do have to admit i like the Hiney side cut-outs or what you might call those..
Makes it easier to grab the board..still really nice board.. and that's coming from a  65% addict..

Offline treeleaf64

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 16:17:22 »
Hineybush PCB is really nice. A high quality PCB. I recommend it to everyone.

Offline YoRHannya

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 23:55:17 »
I really like this design. Sign me up, I am definitely interested.

Interested in seeing what the final colors chosen will be, too.

Offline d.caminero

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 05:15:28 »
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

Show Image

Show Image


This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb

Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.

ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.

Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)

Offline noorejji

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 10:58:58 »
Very nice update. I was on fence to begin with, but now I'm upgraded to totally in. Thank you for universal plate. Also hoping a navy blue or blue-grey color can make it in, but that lilac is VERY handsome indeed.

Offline ironchefmichi

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 11:55:11 »
YES the split spacebar makes this a must buy for me i'm pumped

Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 13:33:50 »
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

Show Image

Show Image


This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb

Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.

ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.

Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)

I see, i havenít thought of that, mostly because I havenít used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates arenít exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!


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Offline kaisn

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 14:18:21 »
Filled out the form. HHKB top please, pretty please

Great design!

Offline 1corazon

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 04:58:48 »
Super Keen on this one mate, PLEASE MAKE THIS AND TAKE ALL MY MONEY !!

Offline KZzzz

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #92 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 01:50:21 »
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 07:21:12 »
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!

Offline FRANCO

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 08:52:46 »
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!

The thicc-er the bezel, the better =)


Offline KZzzz

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 10:45:49 »
BTW, will this be an unlimited GB?

Offline d.caminero

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #96 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 13:56:26 »
I see, i havenít thought of that, mostly because I havenít used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates arenít exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!
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You can always offer cheaper materials for ALPS plates, or, as I said, I'd pay a bit more to have a proper plate. As I said, if you need some help regarding that just hit me up via PM and I'll give you an insight.

Offline KEYGEM

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #97 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 14:14:49 »
The purple version is pretty nice <3

Offline samuelcc

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #98 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 16:25:30 »
Love it so much!!
It is nice to see those great feature combined together.
Hope the group buy is going to be unlimited tho..

Offline VXQN

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 03:40:36 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.

Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 04:19:03 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:57:20 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!
I would also prefer 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:45:12 »
Just a question,

Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?

Is this possible ?  Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.

Kind regards

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:55:58 »
Just a question,

Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?

Is this possible ?  Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.

Kind regards

Why? Out of curiosity? Is this because it would work better for your setup or because youíd like the board to be cheaper by placing the connector on the main pcb rather than a daughter board?

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« Reply #104 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 21:01:27 »
Hi,

It more for aesthetic reasons,  i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.

If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 00:11:00 »
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?



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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:38:10 »
Hi,

It more for aesthetic reasons,  i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.

If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.

The main reason for doing a daughterboard is to make the USB port tighter and more tailored to the case. Having an on board USB port is cheaper and simpler in production, but limited in terms of fitting the case! Personally I really like the look of the cable being centered but it would definitely be interesting to try having a slightly off centered port, like the good old IBMs  :-\

Thanks for bringing it up!

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« Reply #107 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:39:20 »
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?

$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!


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« Reply #108 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 04:09:52 »
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?

$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!

$300-350 would be perfect. We'll see  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 10:16:09 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!

I can't speak definitively, but I think it's generally a 50/50 split! I searched for "split spacebar GMK" on google images and didn't see a clear winner for either way.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 00:03:54 »
I hear a lot of people that say this layout is efficient compared to others, but I'm someone who likes the arrow keys separated from the rest of the board. I'm in for one of these for sure.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 02:56:40 »
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 03:46:37 »
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.

Thank you, I'm glad to hear this!
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.

In terms of logo engraving on the top, I will try to make it an option, same as the weight :)  Some people seem to want a clean top and I totally understand that!

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« Reply #113 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 07:34:45 »
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 00:05:40 »
very interesting design. looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

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« Reply #115 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 03:19:59 »
Great design and thank you for ISO.  I would be in for this cute little board if it runs.
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« Reply #116 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 06:15:16 »
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.
Great!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 00:38:06 »
Rgb is nice with hot swap.

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« Reply #118 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 13:31:23 »
OK, everybody likes, so.. let's do this now! :)
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #119 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:22:19 »
So finally, I feel I've landed on a final design and look. I've experimented with various logo designs on various places on the case and weight, and landed on having a clean looking front and a diagram logo of an eclipse on the weight, which have moved to the outside of the bottom, with screws on the inside, keeping the clean look.

The weight will be optional, if you prefer a clean outside.



The layouts available (additional to standard ANSI) are:

ISO


WKL


Tsangan


Split Spacebar


Split Backspace


If all goes well, I will be starting the prototyping this week. Stay tuned  :)


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:40:45 »
It looks like there is a small difference between the models used for the renders, they keycaps are positioned differently per layout.

ISO a bit lower and to the right
WKL & Tsangan are the same
Split spacebar a lot lower
Split backspace a bit lower

But besides this, I really like the improved design! Love the new rubber feet strips!

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« Reply #121 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:14:23 »
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #122 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:20:17 »
Looks great! Definitely like the new eclipse engraving on the weight, and the rubber feet strips. Can't wait :)

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« Reply #123 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:41:43 »
Tsangan is my choice:)

Can we have a side rendering? So we could see the whole profile.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #124 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:13:42 »
ISO to go please and a side order of SA Sail to pop on top.  Noice.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:20:00 »
Some side renders  :)






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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:36:30 »
Looks awesome! Thanks for listening to my rant about using rubber strips!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #127 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:39:53 »
Day 1 buy for me! Those new renders look amazing


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 14:01:07 »
I like this keyboard.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #129 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:45:34 »
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.

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« Reply #130 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:53:53 »
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 19:15:47 »
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.

Right, my bad for missing that. Good to hear, thanks!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 14:45:54 »
Any decisions made on colors?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 15:56:33 »
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:22:19 »
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:30:40 »
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.

I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:50:53 »
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.

Yeah, it came to mind. I don't like it :D

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 18:04:37 »
:eyes:
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« Reply #138 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:07:55 »
Oh crap. Didn't realize HHKB might have been an option. I would have probably gone that route on this.

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« Reply #139 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 23:28:24 »
I'm ok with it either way but wouldn't a strip going horizontally be better than vertically? It just seems like it would make a better typing feel knowing its level. I know that Rama is already doing that for his boards, but I don't think it should matter honestly. The difference it makes is probably negligible, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 02:26:19 »
I am also curious about doing the strips in the other direction. Iíve always seen them running the length of the board left to right rather than front to back. It looks like the screw holes in this design might get in the way of that though. I think having strips running front to back should still give better traction than round dots, and they will still be less likely to accidentally come off.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 05:38:53 »
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon a tad too much :(
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #142 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 09:11:27 »
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon a tad too much :(

I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:


https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827

However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.

Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!

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« Reply #143 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 09:27:27 »
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon a tad too much :(

I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:

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https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827

However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.

Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!
Plus yours honestly looks better than either of those imo. Lol.

That said, I'd still love to see some sun flare or moon cratering depending on which kind of eclipse it is.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #144 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 10:23:26 »
I'm definitely fine with the current iteration, this board looks good enough on its own (and has such an uncommon layout) that it doesn't need a highly visible logo or anything to stand out. I just want it in time for GMK Apollo  ;D

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 11:59:45 »
Nice, I like the design a lot.

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« Reply #146 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 21:10:13 »
Nice design! Can definitely see myself getting in on this depending on the timing of the GB, big fan of this layout.

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« Reply #147 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 17:00:01 »
I NEED THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!  PLEASE MAKE THIS !!!!!!TAKE ALL MY MONEY !!!!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #148 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 19:28:48 »
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.

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« Reply #149 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 05:34:26 »
I like this.

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« Reply #150 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 23:54:03 »
keep the dream alive!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #151 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 03:29:57 »
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.

Shoot! I thought I replied to you, I must have left a draft somewhere then.

I've been looking into different types of materials. I want to make assembly as simple as possible so I'm for the prototype I'm gonna try 3M silicone pads, which will be die cut to fit the case, and will already have an adhesive surface so every customer will assemble these themselves.

If the quality doesn't meet up with what I'm after, I'm gonna try silicone molded pads, which are expensive but will feel way more premium, and will have a smoother look, as you can shape them however you want. Attaching them to the case is another thing to think about though, since there are about 32 gaskets per case!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #152 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 04:32:45 »
Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #153 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 04:36:54 »
Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.
Thank you!
I'm a big user of screw in stabilizers myself so the plate is designed to fit both plate mount stabs and screw-in stabs :)


At least it should fit both....prototype will show!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #154 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 17:49:14 »
I am also curious about doing the strips in the other direction. Iíve always seen them running the length of the board left to right rather than front to back. It looks like the screw holes in this design might get in the way of that though. I think having strips running front to back should still give better traction than round dots, and they will still be less likely to accidentally come off.

I take back what I said. I just remembered that the Bauer has the rubber strip feet running front to back rather than left to right, and there didn't seem to be any problems with it when I checked out the proto at a meetup. Front to back is probably better for this board since left to right would interfere with the screws, and the strips would have to be placed too far in, reducing stability.

Great looking board. I personally dont like plate-mount stabs, but if that is changed, this would be a very easy buy for me. Great work.
Thank you!
I'm a big user of screw in stabilizers myself so the plate is designed to fit both plate mount stabs and screw-in stabs :)


At least it should fit both....prototype will show!

+1 for screw-in stabs. Zeal's are incredible.

Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.

Shoot! I thought I replied to you, I must have left a draft somewhere then.

I've been looking into different types of materials. I want to make assembly as simple as possible so I'm for the prototype I'm gonna try 3M silicone pads, which will be die cut to fit the case, and will already have an adhesive surface so every customer will assemble these themselves.

If the quality doesn't meet up with what I'm after, I'm gonna try silicone molded pads, which are expensive but will feel way more premium, and will have a smoother look, as you can shape them however you want. Attaching them to the case is another thing to think about though, since there are about 32 gaskets per case!

Haha no problem; thanks for the reply! And sounds good! I trust your judgement for the material. Regarding attaching the gaskets, having customers do it definitely seems like the way to go. Maybe include a couple extra though in case of accidents?

Also hope everyone is staying safe and healthy in these trying times. Remember to periodically sanitize your keycaps!
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #155 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 12:42:34 »
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #156 on: Tue, 24 March 2020, 20:54:37 »
Now this sparked my interest, I've wanted a 65 but this hits all my happy places with its design.
               
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 09:48:52 »
This is honestly exactly what I was looking for. I hope it lands somewhere in my price range...
Love this layout much more than 65% and traditional TKL. I really hope we can get this bad boy out of IC and into GB.
My only special request is that the hot-swap stays! <3

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:39:11 »
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?
I don't have the experience nor contacts in Norway to sell this here. If I did, i definitely would, but Mykeyboard usually offers a refund for the VAT, so it should be fine :)

Now this sparked my interest, I've wanted a 65 but this hits all my happy places with its design.
Thank you, good to hear!!

This is honestly exactly what I was looking for. I hope it lands somewhere in my price range...
Love this layout much more than 65% and traditional TKL. I really hope we can get this bad boy out of IC and into GB.
My only special request is that the hot-swap stays! <3
Love to hear this. I've always felt that 65% layouts are incomplete in a way. There is something "asymmetrical" about it, which is why I wanted to do something like this instead.
Currently we have ordered the prototypes of each option this case will come in. Once the prototypes have been checked and worked with, this will be moved swiftly into GB :)

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #159 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 06:49:37 »
Will you offer to sell directly in Norway, or only through vendors?
I don't have the experience nor contacts in Norway to sell this here. If I did, i definitely would, but Mykeyboard usually offers a refund for the VAT, so it should be fine :)
I understand. I hope the Norwegian kroner will have recovered in time for the GB, Iím not joining any current GBís because of it.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #160 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:23:15 »
lol i was just thinking about if only keyboards have a layout like this ...

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #161 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:49:04 »
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #162 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 13:51:35 »
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?
No definite timeline yet. Prototypes are ordered though, and shouldnít be more than a few weeks to produce :)  Iím planning on streaming the build and testing of it, i will post info on this once I know more!


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #163 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 15:34:11 »
Interested to hearing how this sounds. Any timeline on a prototype?
No definite timeline yet. Prototypes are ordered though, and shouldnít be more than a few weeks to produce :)  Iím planning on streaming the build and testing of it, i will post info on this once I know more!


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I'm in with this keyboard, I was looking for some tkl but have seen nothing special lately, but Eclipse looks beautiful and I want it. I'm looking towards this streaming build, it will be awesome. Good work dude.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #164 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 15:45:09 »
Really interested in this board! I also feel that 65% boards are not as good looking and can be overrated sometimes, this board just hits the spots perfectly for me! I think I will build a WKL for the symmetry, and I will use GMK Apollo to match the theme. Keep up the good work man, I really hope that this board hit the GB.

BTW, just a thought: what if the weight is not centered of the whole board but instead centered around the alphanumeric cluster (the 60% portion of the board)? I know this might be too late of a suggestion since you already ordered a prototype.

Anyway, thank you for doing all this, the community need more out-of-the-box ideas such as this one!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #165 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 16:05:07 »
Sign me up, this is my new favorite layout

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #166 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 18:33:37 »
I would like ALPS PCB option if it can be done. I could buy both the regular and alps version to try

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #167 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 23:19:55 »
just when you thin you were done with keyboards, you find this. awesome design. curious on what the pricing would be and what material options besides aluminum.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #168 on: Mon, 30 March 2020, 01:11:58 »
Sick! This is a must get for me!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #169 on: Mon, 30 March 2020, 06:10:45 »
Eagerly waiting to see the build stream of the prototype :thumb: