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Offline PvtSkittles

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 02:56:36 »
Leaf60 was my first custom and it is still my go to board to this day. Love the work and new accents you have added to make the Leaf65 stand out from the crowd. I look forward to seeing what colors become available!

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 05:05:15 »
Any chance to see a layout chart that shows all possible layouts? I'm particularly interested in one that doesn't have the top right corner blocker, i.e. I'd love an actual key instead of the the logo block, even though it looks amazing

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 05:45:06 »
Potential buyers be warned: you won’t get any replacement PCBs for your keyboard after the GB. I’ve tried to get my hands on Leaf60 solderable PCB for ages but Senter a) ignores all emails and other ways of getting in touch b) deletes whole IC threads for PCB production runs because of “insufficient interest” while multiple people are clearly interested and are willing to pay up.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 06:56:08 »
Omg yes! I am so not missing this gb!

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #54 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 08:05:09 »
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I want this alot, Has the CNY GB run already?

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #55 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 08:54:21 »
Potential buyers be warned: you won’t get any replacement PCBs for your keyboard after the GB. I’ve tried to get my hands on Leaf60 solderable PCB for ages but Senter a) ignores all emails and other ways of getting in touch b) deletes whole IC threads for PCB production runs because of “insufficient interest” while multiple people are clearly interested and are willing to pay up.

Just to clarify, the IC thread was not deleted as you said.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100500.msg2929306#msg2929306

I did locked that thread as the reasons explained in the above link. There's no way to produce PCBs for just "multiple people".

I order extra PCBs for every GB going forward, but most of the time they are only available for a short time. You should not expect any GB runners to keep extra PCBs forever.

PCBs in general are not easy to be damaged / there are always ways to fix them if you have the skills. If you're likely to damage your PCB and don't have much knowledge on repairing, I suggest buying extras in the first place.
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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #56 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 08:55:55 »
You should do a limited run of full pvd brass in gold and rose gold like you did with the leaf60. Those are beautiful and i will buy one for sure. Otherwise i think the middle exposed portion should be polished steel or brass.

I made a middle frame in PVD brass. The quality control of PVD is still a headache.
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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #57 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 08:57:28 »
Sorry if this has been asked before, but will this be a limited run? also excited to see what color options there will be! I loved a lot of the looks on the zFrontier page!


most probably run in a short period with a soft top limit
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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #58 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:04:49 »
Any chance to see a layout chart that shows all possible layouts? I'm particularly interested in one that doesn't have the top right corner blocker, i.e. I'd love an actual key instead of the the logo block, even though it looks amazing

The version you want will be available.
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Offline Zanhana

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #59 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:28:19 »
what is the typing angle?

I think this looks like a very nice board. if there is an option for polycarbonate with no logo blocker I will be in I think

P.S. I forgot to mention, I would like to see FR4 and Carbon Fiber as plate options  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:35:57 by Zanhana »

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #60 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:31:01 »
Potential buyers be warned: you won’t get any replacement PCBs for your keyboard after the GB. I’ve tried to get my hands on Leaf60 solderable PCB for ages but Senter a) ignores all emails and other ways of getting in touch b) deletes whole IC threads for PCB production runs because of “insufficient interest” while multiple people are clearly interested and are willing to pay up.

Just to clarify, the IC thread was not deleted as you said.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100500.msg2929306#msg2929306

I did locked that thread as the reasons explained in the above link. There's no way to produce PCBs for just "multiple people".

I order extra PCBs for every GB going forward, but most of the time they are only available for a short time. You should not expect any GB runners to keep extra PCBs forever.

PCBs in general are not easy to be damaged / there are always ways to fix them if you have the skills. If you're likely to damage your PCB and don't have much knowledge on repairing, I suggest buying extras in the first place.
My apologies. The tread was locked, not deleted indeed.

The issue I have with the PCB is not that it’s no longer working or anything, it’s just that the hotswap version has an issue with hotswap sockets on the bottom row touching the bottom of the case, which partially prevents the gasket mount from functioning as intended.

You’re right to say that it’s unreasonable to expect the GB runner to keep a steady stock of extra PCBs forever after the group buy, but it’s also worth noting that due to some peculiar design decisions (such as a flipped orientation of a stabilizer on an enter key) it’s not possible to find a fitting replacement. And as the keyboard has never seen R2, it pretty much leaves me with no choice but live with a hotswap PCB and that clearance issue.

Anyways, I’m not going to hijack this IC thread or start spitting poison in here just because I have that issue.

I’ll just strongly encourage people who are going to join Leaf 65 GB to get a couple of extra PCBs, including the soldered version, just in case.

Offline milka158

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 09:51:31 »
Looks great. Hoping for ISO-Support!

Offline Vigrith

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 10:56:00 »
Potential buyers be warned: you won’t get any replacement PCBs for your keyboard after the GB. I’ve tried to get my hands on Leaf60 solderable PCB for ages but Senter a) ignores all emails and other ways of getting in touch b) deletes whole IC threads for PCB production runs because of “insufficient interest” while multiple people are clearly interested and are willing to pay up.

Just to clarify, the IC thread was not deleted as you said.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100500.msg2929306#msg2929306

I did locked that thread as the reasons explained in the above link. There's no way to produce PCBs for just "multiple people".

I order extra PCBs for every GB going forward, but most of the time they are only available for a short time. You should not expect any GB runners to keep extra PCBs forever.

PCBs in general are not easy to be damaged / there are always ways to fix them if you have the skills. If you're likely to damage your PCB and don't have much knowledge on repairing, I suggest buying extras in the first place.

Class act.

Great looking board, Senter. I really like all the improvements you made coming from the Leaf 60, which I very much enjoy using.

Offline Danimal5123

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 11:37:52 »
Need that PC with RGB PCB!! Excited to see this!!

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 11:52:45 »
This is pretty nice! Glwic!
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Offline afynyth

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 12:21:23 »
Is the middle piece visible from the front face of the keyboard? Or is it just a regular seam in front?

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 12:54:10 »
How tall is the front of the case? The Leaf60 was pretty low profile, and this looks just a tad bit taller.

Offline Jetstream

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 13:22:29 »
wow! this is mad sick. cant wait for more updates!

Offline Arithmetics

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 13:35:35 »
senter is a god. look at these prompt and helpful responses. leaf is life.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 15:08:36 »
Holy Geez!! This is my new grail. Gonna need this please.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 15:49:38 »
any word on when this GB will be available? I have to start budgeting for this and I don't want to miss out.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 16:10:53 »
any word on when this GB will be available? I have to start budgeting for this and I don't want to miss out.

Going off of the past ICs and respective GBs I'd say you're looking at maybe a month or two - never know though, and I'm sure Senter will be more than happy to give you an actual answer when he can.

Offline MeatballNapkin

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 21:36:07 »
This is a beautiful board. Is there anywhere I can sign up for a reminder?

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #73 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:16:59 »
what is the typing angle?

I think this looks like a very nice board. if there is an option for polycarbonate with no logo blocker I will be in I think

P.S. I forgot to mention, I would like to see FR4 and Carbon Fiber as plate options  :thumb:

5.5 degree.

FR4 plates will be like this:

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #74 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:19:58 »
Is the middle piece visible from the front face of the keyboard? Or is it just a regular seam in front?

The seam is very thin in front but the middle frame is still visible.
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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #75 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:20:47 »
How tall is the front of the case? The Leaf60 was pretty low profile, and this looks just a tad bit taller.


The front is 21-22mm tall.
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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #76 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:22:24 »
Can you explain what is USB board as in the diagram? Leaf spring for leaf board. Nice...

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #77 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:27:08 »
any word on when this GB will be available? I have to start budgeting for this and I don't want to miss out.

any word on when this GB will be available? I have to start budgeting for this and I don't want to miss out.

Going off of the past ICs and respective GBs I'd say you're looking at maybe a month or two - never know though, and I'm sure Senter will be more than happy to give you an actual answer when he can.

Theoretically we can start new GBs anytime soon cause the CNC factory has finished all parts of Time80RE and is available now. I don't want to rush on a new GB though before most of Time80RE orders are fulfilled. A rough estimation of the next GB is late March or Early April.
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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #78 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:28:16 »
This is a beautiful board. Is there anywhere I can sign up for a reminder?

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #79 on: Tue, 23 February 2021, 23:31:16 »
Can you explain what is USB board as in the diagram? Leaf spring for leaf board. Nice...

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Nothing but an USB daughter board

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 01:12:28 »
please keep the lilac color I’m an absolute sucker for it


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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 01:37:02 »
Please keep the lilac/purple color!

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 02:21:42 »
I'm going to go ahead and say that lilac should absolutely be an option.

Offline harpharpharpy

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #83 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 03:02:52 »
How long will it approx. take to produce the boards and ship them out?
I need an E-white option :))

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #84 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 03:58:53 »
The side profile looks amazing, hopefully theres a murdered out black options with just the leaf logo as an accent.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #85 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 04:54:12 »
Interesting, liking the exposed middle frame and the side profile. Can't imagine how many combinations we will be able to do. I pray that typing sound will be great without mute plate.

Also, can't overlook the USB head on black prototype pic. Its kinda protruding slightly. its defeat the cleanliness of the exposed middle frame to me


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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #87 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 09:32:11 »
You should do a limited run of full pvd brass in gold and rose gold like you did with the leaf60. Those are beautiful and i will buy one for sure. Otherwise i think the middle exposed portion should be polished steel or brass.

I made a middle frame in PVD brass. The quality control of PVD is still a headache.

Hopefully there will still be an option for a PVD brass plate at least. I absolutely LOVE mine on the leaf60. Whenever I receive a regular brass plate for other builds I am always a little disappointed it is not as nice as on the Leaf60.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #88 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 11:54:54 »
Wow these look slick, definitely interested.

Offline Taboggan

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 13:09:21 »
Absolutely in on this one, that board looks sick.

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #90 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 13:58:55 »
Can anyone tell if this is the lilac color?  Absolute in love with it


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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #91 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 16:43:47 »
I was always sad to have missed the Leaf 60. So glad a new GB is created for a 65% and I love it even more. Completely in love with the PC version.

Will there be a EU vendor? For VAT reasons
« Last Edit: Wed, 24 February 2021, 16:47:16 by JvMil »

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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 17:04:04 »
What a beautiful board. Really liking that you guys are offering different colors for all the parts and I'm also a big fan of the screwless bottom.
Is there a discord to join for updates? Would also like an EU vendor if possible.





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Re: [IC] Fox Lab - Leaf 65%
« Reply #93 on: Wed, 24 February 2021, 20:22:52 »
Count me in! The board looks amazing. The grey and blue case would pair perfectly with rainy day or mizu!