Author Topic: [IC] GMK Grìseann 2 (GB May 3rd) (Read 190280 times)

Qarmaa · « **on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:37:45 »

GMK Grìseann 2

It's coming back. This time around with R5 bottom row and extended support for most of the modern layouts.

~~IC form~~
~~R4/R5 bottom row survey~~

I love WoB and I love sublegends (who doesn't?). This set already became a classics.
I stay true to original with the colors, style of mods and purse caps lock as well as sublegends being UV printed not doubleshotted -- color is what makes it pop to me among the other sets. And of course being a classic set, it deserves R5 bottom row. ZF granted me a permission to make second run and they will be one of the proxies for this round too.

KITS

Colors: WS1/CR + AE UV for sublegends

RENDERS

F13, split bars and second B not in base?
There is a lot of things I wanted to add in base as well as do something good for the community (the same way I did an icon mods addon when running WoB Red Cyrillic). But unlike WoB Red Cyrillic, I wanted this set to be less self-contained and offer compat for earlier rounds of WoBs and current one that on Drop. You can think about extentions kit as missing keys for other WoBs. Extentions includes support for single and double XT row with R4 and R5 compat (and yes, it's stays "PF" as "Programmable function" not "M" -- because it makes more sense in my head this way), split bars support, 6u centered spacebar, F13, another B, windowed keys and various other keys. ~~If you have a suggestions on what else to add to this kit, please let me know in the feedback form below~~.

Changes
All of the legends placement now follows the official US-International layout.

In detals

², ³, €, ¥, «, » glyphs now following legend order how it's in the layout itself (Alt Gr + 2 gives ² → legend takes first order (bottom left), Alt Gr + Shift + 1 gives ¹ → legend takes second order (top left), same rule applied to the rest). I get why it's done how it's done -- to keep the logic of same group of sings in one row but still think the proper placement is more important.
since | and ¦ are different legends in unicode and they both present in the layout, I decided to kept both applying the same rule as above, ¬ repositioned according to rules (fist sublegend with Alt Gr activated goes to bottom left)
~~xbox delete bsublegend is gone, there is no place for it and it would ruin the logic on mods if I'll try to put it as a front print~~ xbox backspace sub exists on alternative pipe

Rest of the changes

¨ legend was outdated and got replaced, ~~same goes for Ç~~ (props to Lightning)
Control and Lock sublegends on the Caps Lock and Control buttons repositioned -- it's just stylistic desidion, I think it looks better this way
"Num" + front print "lock" now just "Num Lock", same for "Scroll" + front print "Lock"
UK-ISO front print
full "page up" and "page down" instead of their shorter variants

Shout out to: fropsie, Bachoo for old renders, Jae for helping with ISO, Poes for picture of R1, Skok for current renders

7h3of7 · « **Reply #1 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:38:34 »

Reserved

Sicowa · « **Reply #2 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:39:13 »

Quote from: 7h3of7 on Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:38:34

Reserved

Reserve Dn

engyshow · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:42:00 »

ONLYPURSES

IMZO · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:44:51 »

need.

Ella · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:50:10 »

This seems pretty thocky

LaserCrafter · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:59:23 »

glwic. might definitely pick up

matthewdias · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:59:40 »

heads up i think your form might be editable by anyone. edit: i went ahead and restricted it for you. please consider 40s support and r4

paulgali · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:01:58 »

Hell yes Qarmaa

Zetina · « **Reply #9 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:16:46 »

Happy to see such a nice set come back GLWIC and GB

novelflyer · « **Reply #10 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:20:07 »

Really nice, GLWIC

mixistor · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:27:19 »

Yeeees!! Really nice!!

denibhoxha · « **Reply #12 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:31:38 »

very fresh IC you love to see it

whirlwind · « **Reply #13 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:45:21 »

Was looking forward to this, definitely in

notquant · « **Reply #14 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:46:17 »

yummy

Bunn3y · « **Reply #15 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 01:53:08 »

Quote from: Sicowa on Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:39:13

Quote from: 7h3of7 on Thu, 13 January 2022, 00:38:34
Reserved
Reserve Dn

and you reserve mine

ilikerustoo · « **Reply #16 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 02:03:19 »

Super hype

MSA_Vision · « **Reply #17 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 02:33:04 »

Great work on the extensions kit

GLWIC

Lil · « **Reply #18 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 04:19:19 »

Replying here to voice my disappointment that the XBOX backspace is being removed

GMK83 · « **Reply #19 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 04:27:14 »

Yes!!!!!!!

Bachoo · « **Reply #20 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 04:42:49 »

I am in agony from making these models, that being said: this is hot, glwic uncle.

Applet · « **Reply #21 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 05:28:07 »

Love it! Will join for sure. Extensions kit look good imo.

NoPunIn10Did · « **Reply #22 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 05:39:21 »

I would either replace <> with another backslash-pipe key (to match the Windows implementation) or front-print backslash and pipe there (since that is it’s UK location).

Similarly, #~ would go on the front of all other backslash pipe keys.

Another consideration: the Mac symbols don’t actually make a ton of sense in this setup, as Apple has a different implementation of US International than what is used by Windows and Unix. I would frankly just ditch the command symbols and option legends.

Zurg Eon · « **Reply #23 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 06:09:06 »

Been waiting for this!
The circle on top of Å on the W-key is too thin in the render. If new molds are made for this key, please make sure that the circle has the correct thickness.

hali · « **Reply #24 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 06:24:24 »

this is so good

onedrunkman · « **Reply #25 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 07:40:02 »

thank you again, uncle

XiXora · « **Reply #26 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 07:48:53 »

I'd add the UK R4 [|\] front print on the R4 [><] key to match everything else.

I like the Mac mods, personally. Would work nice on my HHKBs too.

Baka Bot · « **Reply #27 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 07:59:18 »

Qarmaa, i hate you and i love you at the same time

J3ff_Leopard · « **Reply #28 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 08:06:07 »

Submitted IC form, but echoing here: Cherry Enter+Escape novelties in either white or the sublegend colors would be cool to see. If they don't add much to the cost of the extension kit, it could really add value.

sirieous · « **Reply #29 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 08:42:22 »

Thank you for doing this man. I'll be definitely picking up a set. Please consider DailyClack as AU vendor.

1017BirckenThot · « **Reply #30 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 08:45:04 »

Finally this gets an R2. Good set!

herbologist · « **Reply #31 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 09:06:02 »

hell yeah! hot as hell.

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soloplayer · « **Reply #32 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 09:45:07 »

may i have a r0 kit?

zea · « **Reply #33 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 09:53:40 »

xbox backspace pls

ggharsha · « **Reply #34 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 09:55:09 »

Neeeeed

Tyson · « **Reply #35 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 09:59:38 »

LETS ****ING GOOOOOOOOOOOO

In for both kits!

mmayhem17 · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:05:53 »

dis gud.

Infrared · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:33:48 »

I've been needing this

krzank · « **Reply #38 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:41:49 »

Please add R4:Backslash/Pipe

Pylon · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:42:06 »

I feel like this is going to be a tough sell against triple-shot JTK Griseann, which is shipping this quarter (supposedly), and will have lots and lots of extras (probably 1500+, looking at the numbers).

fropsie · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:50:01 »

Hell yes

Tyson · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:55:59 »

Quote from: Pylon on Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:42:06

I feel like this is going to be a tough sell against triple-shot JTK Griseann, which is shipping this quarter (supposedly), and will have lots and lots of extras (probably 1500+, looking at the numbers).

Bigggggg doubt, GMK > JTK by a long shot imo. While I really like Hoodrow, I'm not a fan of JTK at all.

Puddsy · « **Reply #42 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 11:14:24 »

Quote from: Tyson on Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:55:59

Quote from: Pylon on Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:42:06
I feel like this is going to be a tough sell against triple-shot JTK Griseann, which is shipping this quarter (supposedly), and will have lots and lots of extras (probably 1500+, looking at the numbers).

Bigggggg doubt, GMK > JTK by a long shot imo. While I really like Hoodrow, I'm not a fan of JTK at all.

qualitywise they are about equal in my experience, same with SP. personally i'd rather have the JTK because it's tripleshot instead of pad print, but that's just preference

i think GMK griseann is one of the most in demand reruns of all time, and i like the updated legends

Puddsy · « **Reply #43 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 11:15:35 »

Quote from: krzank on Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:41:49

Please add R4:Backslash/Pipe

what layouts is this used on?

kiyoboard · « **Reply #44 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 12:02:04 »

Quote from: Tyson on Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:55:59

Quote from: Pylon on Thu, 13 January 2022, 10:42:06
I feel like this is going to be a tough sell against triple-shot JTK Griseann, which is shipping this quarter (supposedly), and will have lots and lots of extras (probably 1500+, looking at the numbers).

Bigggggg doubt, GMK > JTK by a long shot imo. While I really like Hoodrow, I'm not a fan of JTK at all.

How is GMK much better than JTK? Most if not all issues that are happening with JTK are happening with GMK as well. Misaligned letters(check the 'Z' key), thickness issues(check skinny '?'), sometimes warped spacebars. And to their list of issues they recently added not properly sized 3u spacebars and different textured keys in the same set. So, I think they both have advantages over each other, rather than one being way better than another. Triple shot and price(though recent JTK prices are also not super cheap, they came with a pretty big layout support) are also big plus.

MIGHTY CHICKEN · « **Reply #45 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 12:16:20 »

Would love this, r0 extension perhaps >.>?

Qarmaa · « **Reply #46 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 12:18:24 »

Thanks everyone for feedback. I want to address most common requests so far.

R4 bottom row
One of my reasoning why I wanted to do Red Cyrillic and Griseann R5 is because R4 is avaiable on regular Drop and it's not hard to get. R5 rather tough to find and will cost a lot as separate kit. Though I'm doing the set with the community and would appreciate the feedback on it. So I setup a survey: https://forms.gle/LdzwiZFrRReSLdhf9. If you care about it, please choose one of the options.

40s support & 1u spacebar key
3 keys for 40s support will be added to extension kit as well as 1u spacebar

Non-purse caps lock & xbox backspace
I really want to keep purse caps, it fit subleged on it better than regular caps icon. Regarding of xbox backspace: it was a tough desidion but I prefer to stick to layout when we talking about bringing back the icon as sublegend on the pipe. As dedecated 1.5u it really looks not ok.

R4 backslash/pipe
Will be added as sublegends.

Ç symbol
Please note that on the renders it's not the proper size or either 100% accurate because it's traced. Please check GMK Greek Beige how it's gonna look irl. Fix for the renders pending.

Mac/HHKB symbols
Still thinking on what to do with them. Originally I thought it would be nice addition more as a novelties rather than to pair with Mac US-Int layout. Prob will be removed.

chaoskills08 · « **Reply #47 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 12:59:19 »

I'm very confused in regards to the kitting decisions here. The 3 key wasn't added to base, the spacebars are part of a massive extension kit that most people won't use 10% of. I'm just curious as to how this is the most efficient way of doing things, unless you're being strongarmed by your vendors to cut down on kitting. While I appreciate the addition of some 40s friendly keys, still having to pay for all available kits kinda ruins that for me personally.

rainkeebs · « **Reply #48 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 13:03:31 »

thank you for the drop of 40s support sir :prayge:

unusuaL_ · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 13 January 2022, 13:06:55 »

thank you for this

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Author Topic: [IC] GMK Grìseann 2 (GB May 3rd) (Read 190280 times)