Author Topic: Double shot replacements ROUND TWO! (Read 150615 times)

Azuremen · « **Reply #500 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 10:53:42 »

I have to say the KBC keys seems like a good idea. Really digging the black laser cut keys with no infill.

Lane Dean · « **Reply #501 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 15:31:39 »

If i understand the wiki correctly, PBT keys are made from a harder plastic. This makes them more wear-resistant? I hate it when the texture gets worn off.

With normal keyboards (abs?), the keys start to wear after about 5 months of use. How long does the PBT material last in comparison?

TheSoulhunter · « **Reply #502 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 15:44:36 »

I'd also get 2 or 3 lasered/engraved sets!

TheSoulhunter · « **Reply #503 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 15:54:47 »

Quote from: Lane Dean;253978

If i understand the wiki correctly, PBT keys are made from a harder plastic. This makes them more wear-resistant? I hate it when the texture gets worn off.

With normal keyboards (abs?), the keys start to wear after about 5 months of use. How long does the PBT material last in comparison?

Perhaps harder, perhaps tougher, perhaps also a lower friction, dunno, all this can influence wear...
But what I do know is that my KBC caps show less wear after ~1 year than the stock Filco ones after a half!

Mr. Perfect · « **Reply #504 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 17:37:15 »

Can anyone doubleshot the KBC PBT KFC keys?

Also, why don't you Otaku people go make your own group buy already? :boink: This one is for double shots. :suspicious:

JLai · « **Reply #505 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 18:57:51 »

We need to start a poll and get the ball rolling.

sadbox · « **Reply #506 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 20:17:26 »

Quote from: JLai;254100

We need to start a poll and get the ball rolling.

I concur! I would if it would be possible for whoever created this thread to change what the poll is?

Quote from: Mr. Perfect;254046

Also, why don't you Otaku people go make your own group buy already? :boink: This one is for double shots. :suspicious:

=( But us Otaku fans want fancy looking keyboards too!

Kairxa · « **Reply #507 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 20:19:12 »

He said it will be ordered after the holidays, so there is no point in making a poll right now.

JLai · « **Reply #508 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 20:33:44 »

Quote from: Kairxa;254136

He said it will be ordered after the holidays, so there is no point in making a poll right now.

Ack! I must have missed that post. Guess I'm impatient. Although at this rate, it will take the entire holiday season to come to a consensus, lol.

spolia optima · « **Reply #509 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 22:34:31 »

Quote from: ripster;253546

Have we talked already about just doing a run of KBC style laser engraved keys?

Lasered PBT with no infill. I believe Signature Plastics has the equipment/molds to do this. This will last a LOT longer than all the other alternatives being discussed.

+++
Someone should make a thread about it. I would kick in a few buckaroonies.

Mr. Perfect · « **Reply #510 on:** Mon, 29 November 2010, 23:10:28 »

Quote from: blue6249;254135

=( But us Otaku fans want fancy looking keyboards too!

Naturally. :smile: You could get an Otaku group buy going, there's certainly enough people asking. It just seems odd to ask for legendless keys in a doubleshot thread. If anything personifies keys with legends more then physically cutting the character out and filling it back in with a second color, all in the hopes that the legend will never wear off, I dunno what it is. :lol: It's like the two extremes.

Azuremen · « **Reply #511 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 03:09:53 »

Quote from: spolia optima;254173

+++
Someone should make a thread about it. I would kick in a few buckaroonies.

+1. I think I'd be more interested in a set of these than Doubleshots at the moment.

itlnstln · « **Reply #512 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 07:24:08 »

I would also be in for some lasered caps with no infill. Those kick ass.

JLai · « **Reply #513 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 08:31:49 »

Quote from: itlnstln;254263

I would also be in for some lasered caps with no infill. Those kick ass.

+1

hapsen · « **Reply #514 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 09:19:18 »

Quote from: itlnstln;254263

I would also be in for some lasered caps with no infill. Those kick ass.

:nod: me 2

sairex · « **Reply #515 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 09:47:30 »

Quote from: itlnstln;254263

I would also be in for some lasered caps with no infill. Those kick ass.

Me too!!

adamgoldberg · « **Reply #516 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 10:50:27 »

Quote from: sairex;254312

me too!!

yes!

Lane Dean · « **Reply #517 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 12:26:27 »

Would the 104 key set fit just the Filco? What about DAS, Steelseries, Thermaltake, Rosewill, and Razer?

Azuremen · « **Reply #518 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 12:31:36 »

Quote from: Lane Dean;254388

Would the 104 key set fit just the Filco? What about DAS, Steelseries, Thermaltake, Rosewill, and Razer?

I know that the SteelSeries, Filco, and Rosewill RK-9000 all have the same keycap profile. I've mixed and matched each on different boards with no issue.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #519 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 18:35:19 »

Laden3 mentioned that after having SP laser etched the pbt keys; to then pass it along to Unicomp to dye sublimate them.

I think that would rawk

PBT with engraved is interesting but wouldn't be as clear as a doubleshot would it ? thats why maybe the added dye sublimate to it would be better :X if possible.

I'd sell my ducky pbt laser etched for those

laden3 · « **Reply #520 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 18:49:45 »

I was talking about Unicomp helping us to dye sub blank PBT keycaps from SP (like they would do it...)

JLai · « **Reply #521 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 19:39:01 »

I'd like my set without additional dye sublimation, unless its going to be like the black on black Topre keys. I like the legend being somewhat hidden.

johnnysasaki · « **Reply #522 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 20:15:29 »

Quote from: Azuremen;254391

I know that the SteelSeries, Filco, and Rosewill RK-9000 all have the same keycap profile. I've mixed and matched each on different boards with no issue.

Yes, I do believe they all use key caps from the DCS profile family.

Azuremen · « **Reply #523 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 20:50:48 »

I could swear me moving keys between the Rosewill and SteelSeries showed no discernible difference. If you want, I could later (room mate is gaming on the 6Gv2 atm) try changing some keys around from the boards and see how it works.

Azuremen · « **Reply #524 on:** Tue, 30 November 2010, 21:21:33 »

I could try to borrow my friends Black Widow at some point and fiddle with those keys. Not sure when I could do this though.

PRISONER 24601 · « **Reply #525 on:** Wed, 01 December 2010, 02:16:50 »

Does the laser infill cost extra?

DawnFlower · « **Reply #526 on:** Wed, 01 December 2010, 03:32:17 »

I have to go oversea for more than a month towards the end of January. Do you guys know the ETA of when this batch will be shipped?

I prefer blank or weird symbols all over

colour-wise, checkered or pink or rosy red ^^~!

if it's gonna be late Jan, then I'll have to wait till the next batch I guess.

tjweir · « **Reply #527 on:** Wed, 01 December 2010, 10:27:39 »

I just saw an interesting key on OTD today, which may be a compromise between face legends and otakus.

http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=44816&page=2

It looks pretty good to me. Just a bit more fodder for debate.

itlnstln · « **Reply #528 on:** Wed, 01 December 2010, 10:35:38 »

I like that, too. I would still rather have laser-etched with no infill.

itlnstln · « **Reply #529 on:** Wed, 01 December 2010, 10:40:34 »

It sort of defeats the purpose since the number keys don't have the symbol. I would like a nicer font, too, but the idea's sound.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #530 on:** Thu, 02 December 2010, 02:13:01 »

arrow keys on the WASD

http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=wasd

It's kinda like your screenshot but only specific for the WASD usually used by gamers for movement.

Opinions ?

Senor_Cartmenez · « **Reply #531 on:** Thu, 02 December 2010, 07:46:32 »

yes on the arrows, no on the printing. Make 'em blank

JLai · « **Reply #532 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:00:25 »

TTT. Let's not let this die out.

RoboKrikit · « **Reply #533 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:14:54 »

Quote from: ripster;253546

Have we talked already about just doing a run of KBC style laser engraved keys?

Lasered PBT with no infill. I believe Signature Plastics has the equipment/molds to do this. This will last a LOT longer than all the other alternatives being discussed.

Soulhunter's keyboard
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I still really like this, especially if the greybluepurple color scheme doesn't work out. I know they aren't double-shots, but still.

JBert · « **Reply #534 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:34:48 »

Actually, would those laser-engraved keys be cheaper to customize?
That is, would it take a lot of retooling to order a Colemak or localized set?

Fwiffo · « **Reply #535 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 18:44:54 »

Does anyone want to take over this project? I just don't think I'm doing a good job as organizer.

laden3 · « **Reply #536 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 21:01:33 »

IMO, you were too open for ideas... it is probably better to come out with the set of keycaps you want and start collecting people/votes/money etc, like what was done in the first order
or (influenced by personal preferences)
try something different from dual-shot and ABS= PBT and laser or PBT and dye-sub (I really want this... if Unicomp is willing to do it cheap, that would be great!) or glow-in-dark and dye-sub (I like this too...but, not sure about the outcome)

Still, I appreciate someone's effort in doing these custom orders (since most of the people like me don't want to take the risk and are too lazy), would you mind trying to do the things mentioned above >.<'''

Kairxa · « **Reply #537 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 21:16:24 »

So now we have a REPUTATION BAR!!

Kairxa · « **Reply #538 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 21:50:52 »

But when the points are enough, you get another bar, and so on.

It's a long long journey.

Sam · « **Reply #539 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 22:13:21 »

Quote from: ripster;257276

Lol - 64,902 posts. I can beat that.

Is that going to be your New Year's resolution?

Fwiffo · « **Reply #540 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 22:49:19 »

The biggest problem is that I don't have enough interest in any one particular set, and I'm distracted by holiday crap. But I am going to officially give up ownership, if that means anything.

isp · « **Reply #541 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 22:58:20 »

The laser engraved keys would be a good idea imo, being something diff from the recent group buy. Could lure those wallets back out again.

panda-R · « **Reply #542 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 23:56:19 »

Quote from: Fwiffo;257320

The biggest problem is that I don't have enough interest in any one particular set, and I'm distracted by holiday crap. But I am going to officially give up ownership, if that means anything.

dood are your for real because we need someone to take ownership and bring this project to completion and if you feel that you need to step aside, you should nominate someone capable to bring this to completion! for the sake of the children!

fssbzz · « **Reply #543 on:** Sat, 04 December 2010, 23:59:45 »

i want to take over the project.
but is too late right now, i will be out of states for 3 months to singapore.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #544 on:** Sun, 05 December 2010, 00:33:28 »

Step 1 - Final consensus on keycap set needs to be agreed upon .... (doubleshot abs keycaps again; or pbt laser etched

Color scheme

? Any special keys or extra booster packs

? Thickness of keycaps should be better than the previous MO done by whiterice imho )

Step 2 - Get the price quote from Signature Plastic (haggle for discount. Ever heard of groupon

people bulk buy in exchange for discounts )

Step 3 - Post the pricings + shipping costs (especially for international participants)

Step 4 - Collect the moolahs (people who don't pay in time lose their slot)

Step 5 - Send payment to SP. Wait for them to make and be shipped to the organizer.

Step 6 - Organizer sorts the keycaps by parcels; ships them all out to participants (packaging should be like those USPS boxes whiterice used)

Step 7 - Everyone gets their keycaps = profit ;_;

:X any takers

ironman31 · « **Reply #545 on:** Sun, 05 December 2010, 00:41:15 »

I don't think you can get Signature to make their caps any thicker

laden3 · « **Reply #546 on:** Sun, 05 December 2010, 00:44:33 »

As if we can reach a final consensus...everyone has their own ideal set of keycaps (look at all the previous posts), the person who is willing to spend his/her time in organizing this custom order should have the authority to decide what he/she wants. Then it is up to the others to choose whether to follow or to wait until someone else to organize another custom order with their favorite color/ material etc. You can vote me down if you think I am wrong, but, please correct me or give me a compelling reason, for example "You are just an idiot because you didn't buy a Filco."

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #547 on:** Sun, 05 December 2010, 00:45:00 »

Quote from: ironman31;257354

I don't think you can get Signature to make their caps any thicker

No biggie, but maybe we can get more discount instead then :x

@laden3

But i wouldn't discount the suggestions made for far. Some of them have been good :X but it's about time the new organizer step in and say what the sets going to be and get the price quote for it.

Anyway this is my suggestion for whoever wants to take over

- 104 doubleshot abs (cherry mx compatible keycaps obviously)
- DCS ?
- different font (i thought White rice's font was fine; but for a change maybe something more mainstream like smaller font. Suggestions ? )
- dolche ( same as White rice's. I think the color scheme rawks :} )
- WASD keys same like White rice's but with arrow keys on the sides.
- OPTIONAL booster packs (blank keycaps; J shaped enter; small sized \| and backspace for compatibility with steelseries 6gv2/7g keyboards; alternative windows keycap)

panda-R · « **Reply #548 on:** Sun, 05 December 2010, 01:15:03 »

I'd offer to do it since Panda's are project managers by nature, however due to my geographical location from Signature Plastics it wouldn't be the cheapest option for everyone.

Moogle Stiltzkin · « **Reply #549 on:** Sun, 05 December 2010, 01:22:56 »

Maybe someone who lives closer to SP could receive the keycaps; pack them then ship them; while panda does the negotiating etc etc. Also less work on one individual besides :X

Any takers ?

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Author Topic: Double shot replacements ROUND TWO! (Read 150615 times)