Double shot replacements ROUND TWO!

[2084]

Looks 99% stock Filco except wasd, and I already have red wasd keys, so I'm out

[bakageta]

Looks 99% stock Filco except wasd, and I already have red wasd keys, so I'm out

Yeah, I have to agree, it's a little too similar to the standard look for me to be interested. I don't care for mismatched WASD, so all it amounts to for me is a red escape key and an awesome windows key, with a bit darker lettering.

[jaynoon]

Looks 99% stock Filco except wasd, and I already have red wasd keys, so I'm out

I don't think that scheme has been decided on at all...

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I still vote for the blue scheme above, although I agree with some of the other posters that different colored WASD should be optional, or an included booster pack.

[johnnysasaki]

I don't think that scheme has been decided on at all...



I still vote for the blue scheme above, although I agree with some of the other posters that different colored WASD should be optional, or an included booster pack.

Love the blue one. Another suggestion is to make a normal set, and a blank set (shouldn't need any retooling, just use the same color twice for the double shot) so that non QWERTY people like me can get involved and hopefully drive the costs down further... That's how it'd be in theory anyway. Don't know whether it can be cheaper just lumping in an order of normal blank keys rather than the single colour double shot idea...

[Kaishi]

Blue sounds good to me, and I agree on the WASD being in addition to the stock color.  Some people don't care about WASD, even though I do.

[Fwiffo]

OK, here are some things that are decided:

There will be a full set of basic-colored keys in a standard layout, so special Esc or WASD keys will be optional. Specially colored WASD keys will be included, as will some sort of special Esc key (either special color or special art) will be included. There will be an extra control key for the caps-lock position.

The font will be the standard signature Arial style font because that's all that's available. The position will be modern and not retro unless it's prohibitively expensive.

Things that are not decided:

Color scheme is not settled. Later on I'll pick some of the popular options and have a vote. I consider myself to have veto power considering I'm doing the organizing and taking some monetary risk. The current most popular options mostly agree with my own opinion though.

I'm still leaning strongly toward DCS family keycaps because of the modern look, but SA hasn't been ruled out.

Additional extra keys (e.g. stepped caps-lock, J shaped enter, special GH or HJKL keys, international keys, etc.) are not decided.

If enough people would like blanks, maybe we'll do that. That will improve compatibility with international keyboards and alternate layouts. With a couple extra home row keys, people could use the alternate colored keys for GH or HJKL. It would probably make the set cheaper too, and give us the option for PBT or ABS.

It's not yet decided if we'll do a trollface key or awesomeface key. It might come up to a vote. Not sure if we're doing it for the Esc key or the OS keys. I'll have to do some adjustment to the art on both to make them double-shot compatible, and I'll have some sort of preview for that available at some point in the future.

Some restrictions:

We will need a minimum of 50 participants. Otherwise it's not really affordable.

We don't have a choice of font, but we do have a choice of placement.

The keycaps must be ABS for the double-shot process. Blanks can be PBT or ABS. Glow-in-the-dark can't be used with the double-shot process. Double-shots can only have one color in the legend. Multi-colored legends require pad-printing or dye sub.

We're restricted in color choice by what Signature has in stock. They have a lot of colors, so it's probably not a problem, but we may be limited in certain parts of the spectrum or some more subtle shades.

[sadbox]

I put my vote towards some sort of blanks, but hopefully something that's a little more than just one color. It might go over pretty well especially since EKB hasn't had blanks for a while now.

[Fwiffo]

IMO, one colored blanks would be pointless, so they will be at least two colors.

[Twitchy]

It's not yet decided if we'll do a trollface key or awesomeface key. It might come up to a vote. Not sure if we're doing it for the Esc key or the OS keys. I'll have to do some adjustment to the art on both to make them double-shot compatible, and I'll have some sort of preview for that available at some point in the future.

I have no better way to put this than I think that there should be a geekhack ESC key in every set ever, to tie them all together, the geekhack signature key.

[jaynoon]

Double-shots can only have one color in the legend. Multi-colored legends require pad-printing or dye sub.

Fwiffo,

Just to clarify, is it more costly to have multiple legend colors, as long as there is only one legend color per key?

[Fwiffo]

Yes, it is more expensive because they have to purge their machines for each color change.

[jaynoon]

I saw a triple shot key once.  It was weird.

Wow that Enter key is awesome.

[Fwiffo]

I just got the color samples... It doesn't look like there are any purple/violet shades at all. There is one lilac color, which is about as close as it gets. For the pink lovers, there is one kinda sorta OK pink color (a little dingy), and a salmon color, but no really vivid shades. There are 8 mostly good looking shades of red, including one pretty nice brick color and some vivid reds. There are 6 oranges, all of which look pretty good, but none are super-vivid like that mock-up. There are 12 yellows, but most of them look like puke, about 4 look good.

There are 22 blues, most of which are pretty good, but none are very close to the blue-gray shades in the pretty mock-up that everyone likes. There are 14 greens.

There are several good whites, blacks, a couple browns and tans and hundreds of grays and beiges that could match any plastic computing device ever made with any level of nicotine exposure. Also, clear, colorless/translucent and glow-in-the-dark.

I will post a picture if I can get one that gets the colors well (I will have to borrow a camera).

[bakageta]

I KNOW I saw a post with a pic of the color samples here somewhere, but I just can't find it now... :/

[jaynoon]

Here's my effort at a color scheme, I'm no 3D modeler

Colors probably aren't doable anyway, but I love the turquoise + fluorescent combo.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

I think black, grey, white are good colors (the dolche scheme was pretty good). Any other and it gets really funky :X

i dont think people like that, just my opinion :x

[jaynoon]

I think black, grey, white are good colors (the dolche scheme was pretty good).

Only problem with that is everybody already has the Dolch scheme.

I thought the NES scheme that dizzyone posted was awesome (basically grey & darker grey) but it didn't seem to get much response. I would totally vote for it though. Only thing I would do different is move the red up to the ESC and leave the WASDs alone

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

That red looks too neon for my tastes :x

But you may be right that people don't like getting the popular color scheme :X but then again i don't rely mind that as long as its good.

My Speakers, casing, monitor and keyboard casing is black. I like to keep it a standard theme

[Nadger]

Id say geekhack forums theme color!

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Reminds me too much of Halloween.

Funny that the forum theme (same colors) doesn't do that...

[CodeChef]

Id say geekhack forums theme color!

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Did you make that? Can you make all the orange the same red as the esc? i think that would look better (maybe) and less halloweenish (definitely)

[panda-R]

+1 for this. ESDF > WASD. Just sayin.

...comrade.

COMRADO, We're like twins!

[Nadger]

Did you make that? Can you make all the orange the same red as the esc? i think that would look better (maybe) and less halloweenish (definitely)

I just tweaked it in photoshop dizzyone made the render.

He rendered one close to what you were asking here:



I tweaked around in photoshop a bit more and made these ones:

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

This one looks acceptable. Exception being the ugly red escape key and those custom smiley faces yuck :x

[Kairxa]

Awesome face in red looks "awesome". Or it's just me and my astigmatism (damn, it took me some time to find this word in English).

[Senor_Cartmenez]

I vote for a sets of blanks in different colors (orange ftw)

Also I vote awesome face

Also I vote ESDF > WASD

[qbert]

I vote for a set of full coloured keycaps : yellow or sky blue letters area.

[zefrer]

Awesome face in red looks "awesome". Or it's just me and my astigmatism (damn, it took me some time to find this word in English).

That word is not even english :heh: Would like to see a red awesome face.

[JLai]

PedoBear key > Awesome Face key

[msiegel]

4chan user, we welcome you

[Fwiffo]

Here's something I came up with after looking at the plastic samples. The legends are blue, WASD is cobalt blue with light blue legends.

[bakageta]

Here's something I came up with after looking at the plastic samples. The legends are blue, WASD is cobalt blue with light blue legends.

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I like the look of that, but the yellow Awesome just doesn't match well enough for me. Any chance of getting another set of meta keys as well, either diamonds or windows keys?

[Senor_Cartmenez]

4chan user, we welcome you

:love:

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Hm i got my doubleshot set. I seriously doubt anything can top it :X even with the small arial font.

The dolche color scheme is so damn good


By the way may i ask how do you come by the SP color sample thingys :X ? r those things free or what.

[Twitchy]

I like the look of that, but the yellow Awesome just doesn't match well enough for me.

It seems that if we're to get a set with awesome face (if awesome face has to be yellow), then awesome face should be used in a keyset theme that has yellow as an integral part.

[Kairxa]

It seems that if we're to get a set with awesome face (if awesome face has to be yellow), then awesome face should be used in a keyset theme that has yellow as an integral part.

Agree. Not to forget its eyes and mouth.

[Fwiffo]

I like the look of that, but the yellow Awesome just doesn't match well enough for me. Any chance of getting another set of meta keys as well, either diamonds or windows keys?

I agree. They need to match the other keys, but I just wanted to see how it looks. Regardless, the base set will include standard windows keys in addition to awesome face keys (the awesome key might even be an esc replacement rather than OS key).

By the way may i ask how do you come by the SP color sample thingys :X ? r those things free or what.

You can order them from signature. There is one for ABS and one for PBT, $35 each. I only got the ABS one.

[Moogle Stiltzkin]

Holy crap :d

expensive. Oh well.... i'll think about it for next time.

[Fwiffo]

I was thinking I would send my sample thing off to the next organizing person after this batch.

[TheSoulhunter]

Here's something I came up with after looking at the plastic samples. The legends are blue, WASD is cobalt blue with light blue legends.

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To tell the truth, I don't like it... Dark gray or red on black, or one of the nintendo schemes ftw :3
Also, imo awesome face looks awkward in yellow without white eyes and red mouth!

[WhiteRice]

Here's something I came up with after looking at the plastic samples. The legends are blue, WASD is cobalt blue with light blue legends.

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The awesome face looks like a racist caricature.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

The trollface would probably work better (since it's two color to begin with) if we can work it in with the minimum thickness required for the lines.

[fssbzz]

Here's something I came up with after looking at the plastic samples. The legends are blue, WASD is cobalt blue with light blue legends.

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which black and which blue you going to use?
they looks kinda dark when you 2 shot mold dark blue and black.
it looks ok, but i prefer light blue on W,A,S,D with dark blue legend.

[Fwiffo]

Both will look better if they use the interior of the face as the legend color instead of the outline. I promise, I'm going to find time to fix up the artwork at some point!

[Mr. Perfect]

Have they got a blue that matches the new blue Filco board? Black keys with a matching blue legend would really round that board off. I wonder why Filco didn't do that themselves, really.

Regardless, the base set will include standard windows keys in addition to awesome face keys (the awesome key might even be an esc replacement rather than OS key).

Ah, I was just about to ask about that. There's quite a bit of demand for it, but personally I don't want some internet meme on my keyboard.

[Fwiffo]

The Filco keyboard is kinda a metallic blue, and none of them really match that. There are quite a few blues though, so one might be in the ballpark.

[Twitchy]

Both will look better if they use the interior of the face as the legend color instead of the outline. I promise, I'm going to find time to fix up the artwork at some point!

EDIT:
Top row - legend only
Bottom row - legend and background

[muchadoaboutnothing]

I'd go for a look of disapproval key. Easy enough.

 It'd also be a good way to attract redditors which would likely increase interest in a group buy. Especially since the first person to get the set would be able to karma **** by post a picture of the keycap on reddit.

Still also like the trollface. Think the awesome face loses something when it has to be reduced to two colors.

[Zen]

'Stupid Signature'...

So, YOU have a factory that only produces geek-worthy DS key-caps ?
Maybe it's YOU who purchased the Cherry-machine ??
I would like to buy 25 sets for 1 buck per set ...

[muchadoaboutnothing]

'Stupid Signature'...

So, YOU have a factory that only produces geek-worthy DS key-caps ?
Maybe it's YOU who purchased the Cherry-machine ??
I would like to buy 25 sets for 1 buck per set ...

I think Rip's referring to the fact that out of all the double shot keycaps they sell on Pimpmykeyboard only a couple are MX compatible.