Phantom Custom Keyboard Group Buy (CLOSED)

[hazeluff]

Yes, strong resistors will lower the brightness of the LEDs.  So right now I am using 75ohm resistors.  It would be a lot of work to de-solder all the switches to replace the 75ohm resistor with another resistor.  Could just just solder another resistor on the other side of the PCB to increase resistance?  What is the right resistance to add to the back to make 100ohm?  I can probably get one locally t test with, and if 100ohm works with the current LEDs, maybe we can just change all resistors to 100ohm.

You can add a 25 ohm if you put it in series to get the 100 ohm. You can't put one in parallel to get 100 ohm from your 75 ohm.

Imo I think that you should use something close to the limit of the operating region of the LED and use the Teensy to control brightness.

[demik]

7bit, can i change my shipping address? do i have to resubmit my address to phantom bot?

[litster]

You can add a 25 ohm if you put it in series to get the 100 ohm. You can't put one in parallel to get 100 ohm from your 75 ohm.

Imo I think that you should use something close to the limit of the operating region of the LED and use the Teensy to control brightness.

I think I can only do it in parallel.  If I have to do it serially, I would have to de-solder the whole keyboard to get to that one resistor.

[Sojik]

Will PH7BITREDKIT 1 work?

[F u r u y á]

I think I can only do it in parallel.  If I have to do it serially, I would have to de-solder the whole keyboard to get to that one resistor.

There's no solution in parallel! We can only go downwards with parallel (to go upwards, only in series).

[Autolyze]

Will PH7BITREDKIT 1 work?

I don't think so, but you can see what happens. You'd probably have to do something like:
PHANTOM 1
PH7BIT 1
TEENSY 1
MXRED 110
DIODE 110

[biolaser]

There's no solution in parallel! We can only go downwards with parallel (to go upwards, only in series).

Indeed.
Resistors added in series
R = R1 + R2 + R3 + ...
Resistors added in parallel
1/R = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 + ...

Also, does anyone know what dark grey switches are like? Going from the wiki description, it is like a heavier (80cN) black switch.. so could I conceivably make a ghetto one with a light grey spring (also reportedly 80cN) and black stem? I grabbed a few on this group buy so I guess I'll find out.

[F u r u y á]

I don't know either, but keep in mind that 80cN is only halfway down!

80cN at ACTIVATION. That's halfway. It gets tougher.

So it's a pretty stiff spring.

[Sojik]

I don't think so, but you can see what happens. You'd probably have to do something like:
PHANTOM 1
PH7BIT 1
TEENSY 1
MXRED 110
DIODE 110

Thanks.

Off topic: Is there any sense in mixing switches on the same keyboard? Maybe blacks on the modifiers/number/function keys and reds on the letters or something (OR any other combination)? Do any keyboards do that or do they generally all stick with one switch type? I use blues atm in the two mechanical keyboards I have.

[naranja]

Not sure if this is completely relevant but I just wanted to share this if this is news to you guys

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.269321719802212.60277.241720585895659&type=1

[litster]

January is almost over for North America!  Hurry up and get your orders in!

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2

[Autolyze]

Off topic: Is there any sense in mixing switches on the same keyboard? Maybe blacks on the modifiers/number/function keys and reds on the letters or something (OR any other combination)? Do any keyboards do that or do they generally all stick with one switch type? I use blues atm in the two mechanical keyboards I have.

Normally the only switch that might be different is the spacebar, but there's no reason you can't mix them up a little bit. I was kind of leaning towards something along those lines myself, although I still haven't completely decided how I want the switches to be set up.

[mtl]

Is there any sense in mixing switches on the same keyboard? Maybe blacks on the modifiers/number/function keys and reds on the letters or something (OR any other combination)? Do any keyboards do that or do they generally all stick with one switch type? I use blues atm in the two mechanical keyboards I have.

The two mods in my sig use mixed switches and (for me) it is a big improvement. I'm planning to make two variable force Phantom builds using mixed (and modded) switches, one linear and the other clicky.

[Sojik]

I just ordered. Went with 7bit's layout with a full set of reds (110 to be safe) and 25 blacks in case I want to use blacks on row 1 and the keys along the edges of the main cluster.

[litster]

Most of the world is already in February. USA East Coast is in February as well.  I guess everyone still have a couple more hours to get their last orders in before 7bit runs his script one more them and closes the group buy.

Thank you all for your support of the Phantom project so far! Please bear with us while we tally the orders, collect money, and get the parts ordered. The heavy lifting work will soon begin for the Phantom team!

Start studying the Phantom Instruction wiki here: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Phantom_Instruction

If you have questions about soldering and firmware features and development go here:  http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:26742&do=comments&page=1

Maybe order some soldering tools and keycaps from 7bit's group buy to get ready.

[tsangan]

I hope everything I ordered is right, didn't get a update from 7bit's script yet, but that normally takes awhile

[litster]

I am sure 7bit will send a final invoice, and then you all can double check and let us know any missing or extra items for correction.

[dorkvader]

You can add a 25 ohm if you put it in series to get the 100 ohm. You can't put one in parallel to get 100 ohm from your 75 ohm.

Imo I think that you should use something close to the limit of the operating region of the LED and use the Teensy to control brightness.

Yeah, I plan to solder mine no the underside for easier access. Also: start high, and parallel!

Man, I just realized that I should have added 110 cherry blues and another plate, so I can make another one but PCB-less like lowpoly's apple MO110.

ah well.

[litster]

Yeah, I plan to solder mine no the underside for easier access. Also: start high, and parallel!

You will need to watch for clearance if you do this.  If you use a Filco case, it should be fine.  If you use a case like my acrylic case where the PCB sits on a piece of acrylic, the resistor will make the keyboard wobbly.

Man, I just realized that I should have added 110 cherry blues and another plate, so I can make another one but PCB-less like lowpoly's apple MO110.

ah well.

Add the order now before 7bit wakes up.  You can still get it in.  It is not even 10pm on the West Coast!  :-)

[dorkvader]

You will need to watch for clearance if you do this.  If you use a Filco case, it should be fine.  If you use a case like my acrylic case where the PCB sits on a piece of acrylic, the resistor will make the keyboard wobbly.



Add the order now before 7bit wakes up.  You can still get it in.  It is not even 10pm on the West Coast!  :-)

Good idea! Maybe I'll sneak one in under the radar. I plan to make a case out of cardboard pilfered from out Warehouse at work.

Now, do I go with greens or blues for #2..? Greens look excellent for a BS lover like me, but I could just as easily get blues and spring swap for the same effect. How much is that colour really important to me..?

[mkawa]

the green a) looks awesome b) is actually a unique spring iirc c) GREENS

[digitalleftovers]

I added a few extra greens for safety.  I don't have a spare case for this.   I'm not sure I'll go with cardboard, but I will certainly find something fun to put it in.  In light of the CNC'd tenkeyless cases that vortex just posted, I might hold out to see what will happen with those.

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[biolaser]

I'm going with a cardboard case, since I don't feel like cutting up a body to fit the 7bit layout. I was also inspired by litster's cardboard case, which I think looks great

[hashbaz]

Cardboard for me too, at least in the short term.

[bpiphany]

Also, what value resistors are being shipped with those white LEDs?  

There is really no reason to ship it with anything else than what till match the "maximum" brightness of the LEDs we pick. Resistors should be possible to get as good as everywhere, and they are anything but expensive. And if you are getting your own LEDs, get some resistors at the same time =)

I think I can only do it in parallel.  If I have to do it serially, I would have to de-solder the whole keyboard to get to that one resistor.

I've tried to put all components close to where the switch holes are in the plate. It is going to be tight but my hope is that it at least wouldn't be impossible to reach them if necessary...

[7bit]

Yeah, I plan to solder mine no the underside for easier access. Also: start high, and parallel!

Man, I just realized that I should have added 110 cherry blues and another plate, so I can make another one but PCB-less like lowpoly's apple MO110.

ah well.

You can still order.

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PHANTOM..........91
TEENSY...........98
PH7BIT...........22
PHANSI...........31
PHANSIWIN........21
PHISO.............7
PHISOWIN..........9
DIODE.........10093
MXBLACK.........472
MXBLUE.........1220
MXBROWN........1987
MXCLEAR........4596
MXDARKGREY.......84
MXGREEN........1404
MXGREY.........1211
MXRED..........3960
STAB200.........260
STAB625..........30
STAB700..........46

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[trax]

PHANTOM..........91 TEENSY...........98

wait wat.

[bpiphany]

Teensies are useful you know

[hazeluff]

PHANTOM..........91 TEENSY...........98

wait wat.

I ordered an extra teensy for other purposes. = )

[Autolyze]

I don't suppose there would be some kind of price drop if we made it to 100 Phantom boards?

[Sojik]

I just got a second preorder invoice after sending my shipping address with a slightly lower price (Reds dropped again ). Did my address not go through?

[alaricljs]

On the cardboard cases... you might try a little bondo or painter's putty to fill the cut corrugated edges and then paint the whole thing.

[7bit]

I just got a second preorder invoice after sending my shipping address with a slightly lower price (Reds dropped again ). Did my address not go through?

Yes it did. I will fix it for Round 4.

[hashbaz]

How much are reds now?

[Sojik]

.57 dollars or .43 EUR.

[FKSSR]

I just sent a PM to PHANTOM to try and get 87 blue switches.  We'll see if it's too late or not.

[tsangan]

Text:
PH 0002 tsangan      <------------!!!!!

   Text is very important!
 No text - no Phantom - no refund!

Did you want that in the notes section in PayPal?

[theta]

Just got my invoice...    So will shipping be adjusted for buying a handful of switches only? $17.50 shipping to a US address for 20 MX switches is just...

[mtl]

At least you only got charged once for shipping! lol

[7bit]

Did you want that in the notes section in PayPal?

Yes, because we would not know who paid if this is left empty or there is only random code.

[7bit]

Just got my invoice...    So will shipping be adjusted for buying a handful of switches only? $17.50 shipping to a US address for 20 MX switches is just...

You can choose the shipping method yourself.

For example SHIPUNINSURED would cost $9.

I'm not sure how much shipping costs for smaller orders within the US are.

[alaricljs]

100 Switches in the US should fit in a ~$7 box.

[litster]

100 Switches in the US should fit in a ~$7 box.

That is exactly what BiNiaRiS just told me.  Waiting for 7bit to update the script.

[demik]

i got my invoice.. but i need it shipped to alaricjls.. do i put that in the notes section? i completely forgot to put his sn instead of my address

also, even though it says in the invoice we have 7 days to pay.. i just want to double check if it's okay that i can pay on monday?

[kaiserreich]

Paid mine.

[litster]

i got my invoice.. but i need it shipped to alaricjls.. do i put that in the notes section? i completely forgot to put his sn instead of my address

also, even though it says in the invoice we have 7 days to pay.. i just want to double check if it's okay that i can pay on monday?

Paying Monday should be OK.  Keep in mind that we can't order parts until we have collected money for all invoices.  The sooner you all pay the sooner we can get the orders out.  :-)

Soldering service providers, if you haven't send me your list of customers for me to cross reference, please do so as soon as possible.

[mtl]

7bit, I resubmitted my order with different (increased) switch quantities. Can you re-send the invoice and check the shipping fee? The invoice that went out earlier today charged me twice for shipping. Thanks!

[hazeluff]

Do I have to do a bank transfer? Because I have to like go down to the bank and do it...stupid bank I'm using.

[Tranquilite]

Is shipping to the US the same regardless of whether or not I order switches?

[litster]

Same as long as you are ordering a PCB and a plate.