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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #300 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:32:49 »
I'm confused. Are you talking about diodes, or resistors? Cause in the post with the part info, you say how there is no diodes included, but in the screenshot, I see 500 diodes. No resistors/LED's.  :-\

Yes, I did not include LEDs or resistors. The resistor depends on what LED you use so the resistors were left out. 
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« Reply #301 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:33:21 »
DOUBLE POST EDIT: Not sure how that happened :|
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #302 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:35:32 »
I'm confused. Are you talking about diodes, or resistors? Cause in the post with the part info, you say how there is no diodes included, but in the screenshot, I see 500 diodes. No resistors/LED's.  :-\

Yes, I did not include LEDs or resistors. The resistor depends on what LED you use so the resistors were left out.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #303 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:35:48 »
TFR, I think there is confusion between the switch diodes and the  light emitting diodes... you said it includes everything but diodes and LEDs, but I think you meant to say ti includes everything but resistors and LEDs. You do seem to have switch diodes listed in your order list.

Edit: I see you figured that out.

I would like rectangular LEDs in purple. If no purple, then white please.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #304 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:38:42 »
TFR, I think there is confusion between the switch diodes and the  light emitting diodes... you said it includes everything but diodes and LEDs, but I think you meant to say ti includes everything but resistors and LEDs. You do seem to have switch diodes listed in your order list.

Edit: I see you figured that out.

I would like rectangular LEDs in purple. If no purple, then white please.

This list is awesome and better prices than I expected. Thanks for all the work!

Yeah, I fixed my mistake. Sorry for the confusion! Rectangular LEDs in purple, gotcha.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #305 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:40:42 »
Actually I don't need LED's, just found some laying around that should work.  ;)

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #306 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:41:36 »
Actually I don't need LED's, just found some laying around that should work.  ;)

Sounds good. Thanks for letting me know!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #307 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:44:24 »
When do you expect the kits to go out? Just wondering, this project is incredibly awesome and this will be my first DIY (from a bare PCB) project  :thumb:

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #308 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:50:42 »
Rectangular purple LEDs for me too!

Just wondering, why are you ordering 20 sets?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #309 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:54:57 »
Rectangular purple LEDs for me too!

Just wondering, why are you ordering 20 sets?

Jdcarpe wanted 10 extra. It gets us lower prices so I'm not complaining!

When do you expect the kits to go out? Just wondering, this project is incredibly awesome and this will be my first DIY (from a bare PCB) project  :thumb:

The only thing that will take extra time is manufacturing and waiting for the PCBs to ship and the acrylic case. MOZ and I have to revise the design then he has to get them cut and shipped to me. The parts are from Digikey and shouldn't take long to arrive. I think we are doing pretty well on time though.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #310 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 00:59:15 »
Everybody be taking my purple LEDs!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #311 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 07:03:24 »
What is the pricing on the purple LEDs I might need 150 total

Also I need 3 extra set of controller electronics, for future projects.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #312 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 07:06:42 »
I'm good on LED's I probably won't use any.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #313 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 10:11:07 »
Math helps :P



25 sets + 375 extra diodes yet $8 less

So since each set has 25 diodes, 25 sets have 625 diodes, costing $21.24.

Thus total for 25 sets including $5.23 shipping is: $183.48

Hence each set is ~$7.5.

We have 25 sets, 1 for everyone (Total 8 ) except me (4) and jdcarpe (11), that means we have 2 sets extra, raccoon you can keep them as I know you will be working on more customs, or if someone wants to buy, they can do that, since you are ordering raccoon, that is up to you, and if someone wants more, we can increase the order and maybe hit new tiers.

Also, update on the switched. I will be packaging them as 25 switches, just in case any comes out faulty or is damaged in transit. This pack would be for $9.

Costs thus far:
$6 - PCB
$13 - case
$7.5 - parts
$5 - shipping
$9 - switches
Resistors and LEDs extra.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #314 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 11:29:29 »
I would like green LEDs if possible.. If not, any color will do. =) Thank you.

I don't really have any diodes laying around.. :(

Ok, here's what we'll do. Everyone in the first round needs to tell me what color LEDs they want. If you already have LEDs, you can opt out. I can order the LEDs and resistors then ship them with the rest of the parts.
I'm confused. Are you talking about diodes, or resistors? Cause in the post with the part info, you say how there is no diodes included, but in the screenshot, I see 500 diodes. No resistors/LED's.  :-\

I could be really dumb right now and not know what I'm talking about.. I'm tired.

also if it's still wanted, I'd like white LED's.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #315 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 12:25:04 »
No LEDs needed here, thank you. :)
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #316 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 19:27:13 »
Switches packed.

Each pack has two smaller packets consisting of 13 switches each. Please note that these are desoldered switches, and thus some of them have the terminal pins at the end slightly bent (Can be flattened easily with plier) since some assembly worker thought it is a good idea  >:D. And some would have some remaining solder or a pulled of pad.

When using them, remember to clean them with a soldering iron.


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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #317 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 20:07:29 »
This is a really cool project. Any plans on a GB or something after you guys have finished?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #318 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 20:12:11 »
This is a really cool project. Any plans on a GB or something after you guys have finished?

After the protoyping is done and all issues sorted, raccoon and I will do a GB.

There might be a second round of beta with the universal board that regack is still completing PCB for.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #319 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 20:23:18 »
Ideally, what you want in a GB like this would be someone who could supply you with the PCB, stabilizers (if requested), switches, a case and/or a plate. And possibly assembly service.

If MOZ and TheFlyingRacoon can handle that, it sounds like they are ready to roll with it, once everything is final and prototypes have been made and tested.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #320 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 20:43:02 »
Ideally, what you want in a GB like this would be someone who could supply you with the PCB, stabilizers (if requested), switches, a case and/or a plate. And possibly assembly service.

If MOZ and TheFlyingRacoon can handle that, it sounds like they are ready to roll with it, once everything is final and prototypes have been made and tested.

This prototyping is sort of a mock GB for us too :D

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #321 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 21:22:37 »
Ideally, what you want in a GB like this would be someone who could supply you with the PCB, stabilizers (if requested), switches, a case and/or a plate. And possibly assembly service.

If MOZ and TheFlyingRacoon can handle that, it sounds like they are ready to roll with it, once everything is final and prototypes have been made and tested.

This prototyping is sort of a mock GB for us too :D
Heh. Hopefully everything goes well :D

Just realized I need to pick up a new soldering iron tip for the various SMD soldering.. I'll have to use WFD's method :p

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #322 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 21:26:36 »
What is the recommended tip for a Hakko 888 for SMD soldering?

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #323 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 21:31:44 »
What is the recommended tip for a Hakko 888 for SMD soldering?

I will most likely be using a T18-DL12
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #324 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 21:38:52 »
What is the recommended tip for a Hakko 888 for SMD soldering?

I will most likely be using a T18-DL12

Ok. I'll have to check and see if I have that one!

I should probably practice my soldering at some point.


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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #325 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 21:39:54 »
What is the recommended tip for a Hakko 888 for SMD soldering?

I will most likely be using a T18-DL12

Hey JD, you want to come over and help me solder everyone's PCBs? :P
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #326 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 22:09:11 »
What is the recommended tip for a Hakko 888 for SMD soldering?

I will most likely be using a T18-DL12

Hey JD, you want to come over and help me solder everyone's PCBs? :P

You will solder them for us  :eek:

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #327 on: Sun, 22 September 2013, 22:36:36 »
What is the recommended tip for a Hakko 888 for SMD soldering?

I will most likely be using a T18-DL12

Hey JD, you want to come over and help me solder everyone's PCBs? :P

You will solder them for us  :eek:
I think he's talking about the final PCB's.  :eek:

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #328 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 00:23:04 »
Final PCBs for the group buy should be manufactured using pick and place, just like the final GH60s will be. So end users won't have to worry about SMD soldering.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #329 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 00:47:16 »
Final PCBs for the group buy should be manufactured using pick and place, just like the final GH60s will be. So end users won't have to worry about SMD soldering.

Exactly. I figured since it was only 10 PCBs, I would be happy to do the SMD soldering for everyone. I have that Hakko 936 you sold me and the proper equipment to SMD solder.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #330 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 00:52:02 »
Final PCBs for the group buy should be manufactured using pick and place, just like the final GH60s will be. So end users won't have to worry about SMD soldering.

Exactly. I figured since it was only 10 PCBs, I would be happy to do the SMD soldering for everyone. I have that Hakko 936 you sold me and the proper equipment to SMD solder.

are the prototypes SMD?
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #331 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 00:54:02 »
are the prototypes SMD?

Yes, there is lots of SMD soldering involved.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #332 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 01:16:10 »
Final PCBs for the group buy should be manufactured using pick and place, just like the final GH60s will be. So end users won't have to worry about SMD soldering.
Yes, that is hi=ow it would be done.

Exactly. I figured since it was only 10 PCBs, I would be happy to do the SMD soldering for everyone. I have that Hakko 936 you sold me and the proper equipment to SMD solder.
What is proper equipment, do I need something specific, besides the normal through hole stuff and a finer tip?

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« Reply #333 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 01:49:30 »
SMD soldering can be some serious stuff :o good luck!

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« Reply #334 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 01:50:52 »
are the prototypes SMD?

Yes, there is lots of SMD soldering involved.

Hmm... I'd like to try doing it myself... but I don't know if I'm ready for SMD yet.
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« Reply #335 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 02:16:19 »
I found this to be a very helpful video on SMD soldering if you are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY

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« Reply #336 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 04:20:11 »
I found this to be a very helpful video on SMD soldering if you are interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY
Thanks, I'll check it out. I have a feeling that the solder I have is too big, same goes for my tip.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #337 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 06:43:39 »
Final PCBs for the group buy should be manufactured using pick and place, just like the final GH60s will be. So end users won't have to worry about SMD soldering.

Exactly. I figured since it was only 10 PCBs, I would be happy to do the SMD soldering for everyone. I have that Hakko 936 you sold me and the proper equipment to SMD solder.

^^ I would gladly pay a few dollars for this service!!

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #338 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 07:08:26 »
As long as you only need an iron to do it, it couldn't be that hard right?
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« Reply #339 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 07:11:54 »
As long as you only need an iron to do it, it couldn't be that hard right?

SMD is an entire different ball game. Some of that stuff is super tiny.

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« Reply #340 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 07:37:36 »
I also don't need LEDs and would pay for SMD soldering.
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« Reply #341 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 07:41:58 »
As long as you only need an iron to do it, it couldn't be that hard right?

SMD is an entire different ball game. Some of that stuff is super tiny.

I saw whitefiredragon do it with an iron, and not even a very small tip. I'm not saying its as easy as through hole stuff, but it also doesn't seem terribly difficult. I need to get a pair of those tongs for holding stuff in place before doing it though.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #342 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 08:30:43 »
TFR, I was hoping to get to do the soldering myselfI. Part of the fun of DIY and all.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #343 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 09:11:35 »
TFR, I was hoping to get to do the soldering myselfI. Part of the fun of DIY and all.

Sounds good! I would be happy to offer SMD soldering and assembly services for whoever needs it but you can always to do it yourself.
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #344 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 10:32:02 »
I'll do the soldering myself. It's nice that you're offering SMD soldering, but one of the reasons why I wanted this was to be my first DIY kit.  :thumb:

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« Reply #345 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 13:27:41 »
I'll do the soldering myself. It's nice that you're offering SMD soldering, but one of the reasons why I wanted this was to be my first DIY kit.  :thumb:
I'm going to second this. It's a learning experience!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #346 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 16:14:33 »
SMD with an iron is hard.  I use hot air when I can.

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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #347 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 18:47:04 »
Moz and I have pretty much everything worked out and are about ready to invoice. For SMD soldering, it will be $10 and for full assembly it will be $10. I think those prices are fair, but just let me know if you disagree!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #348 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 22:48:48 »
Moz and I have pretty much everything worked out and are about ready to invoice. For SMD soldering, it will be $10 and for full assembly it will be $10. I think those prices are fair, but just let me know if you disagree!
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Re: GHpad FTW (10-Key Pad for GH60)
« Reply #349 on: Tue, 24 September 2013, 01:44:07 »
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