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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6900 on: Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:38:46 »
Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

I think the only option is to order from GONKeyboardWorks right now. Not sure where else you can get 7X wires easily.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6901 on: Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:40:08 »
Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

I think the only option is to order from GONKeyboardWorks right now. Not sure where else you can get 7X wires easily.

Can PCB mount wire work with plate mount? If so I'll take apart my 11800 for scraps

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6902 on: Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:44:28 »
Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

I think the only option is to order from GONKeyboardWorks right now. Not sure where else you can get 7X wires easily.

Can PCB mount wire work with plate mount? If so I'll take apart my 11800 for scraps

Yeah it's just the mounting bits and inserts that are different.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6903 on: Fri, 21 March 2014, 20:51:00 »
Is there/how easy is it to get 7x Plate mounted stabs, preferably cherry but also costar can work

At the moment, you can only get them (Cherry) from GON, unless you want to bend the wires yourself.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6904 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:18:47 »
Two questions...

1. Currently have a CM Storm QFR. I like it, but think it sits a bit too high or is a bit thick. Any other options for a thinner or lower profile TKL board?

2. What type of o-ring/dampner does the Logitech G710+ use? The reason I ask is because I tested it out and liked the feel and wanted to try to replicate it.

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« Reply #6905 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:26:34 »
1. Currently have a CM Storm QFR. I like it, but think it sits a bit too high or is a bit thick. Any other options for a thinner or lower profile TKL board?
2. What type of o-ring/dampner does the Logitech G710+ use? The reason I ask is because I tested it out and liked the feel and wanted to try to replicate it.

1. You can get a bit lower profile keycaps but mechanical keyboards are generally thicker as the switches need some space. A wrist rest mightm ake things more comfortable too.
2. You will probably not find the exact same O-rings, but WASD Keyboards and iirc feng or imsto offer some.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6906 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:29:55 »
1. Currently have a CM Storm QFR. I like it, but think it sits a bit too high or is a bit thick. Any other options for a thinner or lower profile TKL board?
2. What type of o-ring/dampner does the Logitech G710+ use? The reason I ask is because I tested it out and liked the feel and wanted to try to replicate it.

1. You can get a bit lower profile keycaps but mechanical keyboards are generally thicker as the switches need some space. A wrist rest mightm ake things more comfortable too.
2. You will probably not find the exact same O-rings, but WASD Keyboards and iirc feng or imsto offer some.

1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?

2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6907 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:38:22 »
1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6908 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 14:50:40 »
1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6909 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 18:56:47 »
Why are alps harder to remove than MX?

Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6910 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:02:14 »
Why are alps harder to remove than MX?

Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

I think the reason is because the retention mechanism is completely different between alps and MX.
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« Reply #6911 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:02:38 »
1. Why are alps harder to remove than MX?
2. Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

1. Because they are not mounted the same way :rolleyes: The connection between keycap and switch stem is probably tighter.
2. I don't think there is.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6912 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:40:16 »
1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

I know it's not exactly the same two keyboards, but I have QFR and Ducky Shine Yellow Edition, which is probably close to the Zero.

The QFR is about 1mm higher at the front of the case, but it has thicker rubber feet underneath.  if you removed those and sat it directly on the desk, it would probably be 1 to 2 mm lower than the Ducky.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6913 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 19:56:50 »
1. I was looking at the Ducky Zero TKL 2087. It's hard to tell from the pics, but it looks like it would be a bit thinner or sit lower. Would that be a good choice?
2. Yeah, I saw that WASD Keyboard sells o-rings, but not sure which ones would be closer to what Logitech is using. 0.2mm or the 0.4mm reduction? Any idea?

1. I think the difference would be minimal, maybe someone who has one can measure it for you.
2. It uses 1mm O-rings, but 2mm should be fine.

I know it's not exactly the same two keyboards, but I have QFR and Ducky Shine Yellow Edition, which is probably close to the Zero.

The QFR is about 1mm higher at the front of the case, but it has thicker rubber feet underneath.  if you removed those and sat it directly on the desk, it would probably be 1 to 2 mm lower than the Ducky.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6914 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 20:16:27 »
Also is there a guide on taking apart alpsulators?

I used this video kmiller8 made to help me understand how to take apart my Alpsulator:


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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6915 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:26:37 »
I like Reds and Browns, dislike the Blacks and Blues. Should I go with a 45 or 55 uniform RF 87?

I'm not sure I see the correlation since I don't think that it's as easy as saying "Oh I like light switches so I'll like light MX and light Topre". I think the different switch types (Alps, Topre, MX, Buckling Spring, etc) are unique and it's going to be hard to judge by comparing from one type to another. I would suggest you try both to judge it. Plus, none of us know exactly what you're looking for in a switch. It's personal preference more than anything.


Whats a guy gotta do to get a nice set of white/beige doubleshots for a filco/qfr?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6916 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:35:18 »
What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6917 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:36:12 »
What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...
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« Reply #6918 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:39:19 »
What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester
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« Reply #6919 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:43:22 »
What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...

I think its because I found a random rusty hacksaw that couldn't do ****....I'll go find a newer one and use that :))

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« Reply #6920 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 21:48:34 »
What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...

I think its because I found a random rusty hacksaw that couldn't do ****....I'll go find a newer one and use that :))

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« Reply #6921 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:37:18 »
What can you use to cut up a PCB? Already tried a hacksaw, no avail. Want to use it as a holder for switches for a switch tester

Why can't you use a hacksaw...If you can cut steel pipe with a hacksaw I think you can get through a PCB...

I think its because I found a random rusty hacksaw that couldn't do ****....I'll go find a newer one and use that :))

I just karate chop them

Or you can grab a gold plated hacksaw.  ;)
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« Reply #6922 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:42:54 »
Gold plated?

Solid gold blade son.
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« Reply #6923 on: Sat, 22 March 2014, 22:59:04 »
Gold plated?

Solid gold blade son.

Bro. Your solid gold blade won't even cut ;)
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6924 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 07:08:16 »
When I'm looking for old g81s on ebay... L means laser, H doubleshot and S dyesub, am I right?

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« Reply #6925 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 07:43:08 »
When I'm looking for old g81s on ebay... L means laser, H doubleshot and S dyesub, am I right?

Correct, here's more info: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_article_numbers

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« Reply #6926 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:17:15 »
This is a stupid question that I should know the answer to.

Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?
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« Reply #6927 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:30:47 »
This is a stupid question that I should know the answer to.

Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

I just checked a teensy and it is a Mini, so I am assuming that is the most common keyboard connector.

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« Reply #6928 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:37:58 »
Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.

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« Reply #6929 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:42:05 »
Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.

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« Reply #6930 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:45:19 »
Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.
Do you have any idea why WASD would choose micro over mini USB?
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« Reply #6931 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:51:08 »
Are keyboard cables (gh60, jd40, etc) mini or micro usb?

Apart from the WASD keyboards they use usually Mini USB.
Do you have any idea why WASD would choose micro over mini USB?
CM is going to do it with the novatouch. They(CM) say micro is better because the plug will break before the port. So you should only have to replace the cable rather than desolder the plug if you slam your keyboard into something by accident.

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« Reply #6932 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 12:56:56 »
I know WASDv2,New Matias,The Novatouch using micro cmiiw
Mini easily dislodged from my experince, micro not like some handphone or gadget
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« Reply #6933 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:55:11 »
Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:
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« Reply #6934 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 13:57:13 »
Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:

You need USB cable to make USB cables.

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« Reply #6935 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 14:01:28 »
Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:

I answered this question last time you asked already. I don't think you replied?

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« Reply #6936 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:36:43 »
Could someone be as kind as to link me to an ebay listing for the type of cable you need to make usb cables? A few members tried to explain it to me but I'm still a little confused. Thanks in advance. :thumb:

You need USB cable to make USB cables.

CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1
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« Reply #6937 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:51:55 »
CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

Alright, let me get this straight for you since you seem a bit lost ;)
You usually just buy a normal USB cable like this one and cut the ends off. It is cheap and requires not much work. The wire you linked is just that: 1 wire. However USB cables have 4 to 5 wires inside, meaning you need to bundle at least 4 per cable, meaning the cable will get thick and the sleeve you want to put around it will probably no more fit. Additionally, you would have to get shielding and if possible an outer plastic coat - all that requires a lot more work and probably also more money than simply buying a normal cable and cutting the ends off.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6938 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 15:56:59 »
CPT said you can use hookup cable, but I don't know what that is.

Also BlueBar, I may have overlooked it. I just would really like a link to an ebay listing of the cable in bulk. I cant find any "bulk usb cable"

Edit: is this what you need? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Stranded-Equipment-Wire-18AWG-20AWG-22AWG-26AWG-28AWG-Cable-Cord-Hookup-Strip-/400611903150?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&var=670167752944&hash=item5d465486ae&_uhb=1

Alright, let me get this straight for you since you seem a bit lost ;)
You usually just buy a normal USB cable like this one and cut the ends off. It is cheap and requires not much work. The wire you linked is just that: 1 wire. However USB cables have 4 to 5 wires inside, meaning you need to bundle at least 4 per cable, meaning the cable will get thick and the sleeve you want to put around it will probably no more fit. Additionally, you would have to get shielding and if possible an outer plastic coat - all that requires a lot more work and probably also more money than simply buying a normal cable and cutting the ends off.

Thank you. :) Finally someone explained it to me well. Just curious as to how the people who make their own cables do it.. I wanted to attempt it all from scratch.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6939 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 16:04:20 »
Thank you. :) Finally someone explained it to me well. Just curious as to how the people who make their own cables do it.. I wanted to attempt it all from scratch.

This guide by nubbinator might help you as well: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44924.0

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6942 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 17:14:36 »
Nope, it's not cheap at all.  The cheapest way to make some cables for yourself is buying some cables to cannibalize off of Amazon if you have prime, buying some cables to cannibalize off of Newegg if you have shoprunner, or buying some cables to cannibalize off of Monoprice.  If you buy the cable straight up, expect to be paying at least $0.50 a foot after you factor in shipping.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6944 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:11:17 »
I want minimal travel distance reduction and change in feel, which keyboard should I go for? HHKB Pro 2 w/ dental bands mod vs HHKB Pro 2 Type-S. Same question goes for the regular Realforce 87u and the Silenced version as well.
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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6945 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:12:49 »
Does someone know if SP's SA 4.5u (TAA) SKU: 303193 fits the KBT Pure Pro, and / or the TEX Beattle?

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6946 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 19:15:33 »
Does someone know if SP's SA 4.5u (TAA) SKU: 303193 fits the KBT Pure Pro, and / or the TEX Beattle?

It should fit if it has the correct length.


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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6948 on: Sun, 23 March 2014, 22:38:12 »
Does someone know if SP's SA 4.5u (TAA) SKU: 303193 fits the KBT Pure Pro, and / or the TEX Beattle?

It should fit if it has the correct length.


It is the right length, but I am not sure if the stems will fit.

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Re: Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)
« Reply #6949 on: Mon, 24 March 2014, 04:22:32 »
Is there such a thing as a PS2 Hub so I can use multiple keyboards for one computer?

I have found Switches that do it the other way around (1 PS2 keyboard for 4 PCs), but that's not what I want.