Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[Melvang]

What size wire is used for key pullers?

[asgeirtj]

I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

[phoenix1234]

I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

May I know which kind of stabilizers you have?
I suppose you have Cherry Stabilizers, then maybe you need to use it awhile until it is break-in the high viscosity of Mech lube 1. If you lube it too much, then you may need to use a brush to clean it a bit.

[maxtortheone]

Does Unicomp make black keycap sets any more? Can't find them on the site.

[rowdy]

Does Unicomp make black keycap sets any more? Can't find them on the site.

http://pckeyboard.com/page/Buttons/KSET

Select Black from the dropdown.

Space bar extra: http://pckeyboard.com/page/Buttons/SB

[maxtortheone]

Awesome, thanks!

Also, does the PC122 dust cover go well on an IBM Model M 122 key?

[asgeirtj]

I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

May I know which kind of stabilizers you have?
I suppose you have Cherry Stabilizers, then maybe you need to use it awhile until it is break-in the high viscosity of Mech lube 1. If you lube it too much, then you may need to use a brush to clean it a bit.

I have mj2, they have costar stabilizers right?

[combataran]

Can someone explain what this means:

其实说到金属键盘，我之前也接触过一些，韩国基友的356mini也给我玩过2个月

但当时由于没有WIN键，FN层设置不符合我的习惯，所以基本上没有细细品味

最后导致2个月后，我总共才玩了1个小时不到…… 现在想起来真后悔啊

而后来的各次KMAC团购、456GT团购，以及基友出售的各种金属键盘

不是由于价格较贵、就是无WIN键，总之不符合自己的要求，所以没有去购买

由于我主要还是玩老原厂键盘，当时对金属键盘抱着可有可无的心理

对我来说，我需要一把86键，兼容原厂101键位RGB，带WIN键，356系列键盘

但反观所有356系列键盘，貌似从来就没有一款符合我要求的

而这个时候河马哥，大疯哥的LZ、KMAC系列，深深的感染了我

这个时候我决定，一定要弄一把接近我要求的金属键盘

虽然会有不习惯，虽然不会弄到最顶级的，但我可以慢慢去适应……

最后看准356mini，使用101键位的电路板，虽然不是80%，但满足大部分要求

其实这一款电路板是在356mini团购完毕后一年才推出的选购版本

主要区别就是兼容樱桃原厂101键位的RGB键帽，其他功能没有任何区别

但据说101键位版本的做工稍比104版本要稍微差一些，并且出售的量也够多

And before anyone says otherwise, yes, this is keyboard related.

[Candyflip]

I have mj2, they have costar stabilizers right?

Yes.

[fohat.digs]

What size wire is used for key pullers?

I have made several from the large size paper clips, but commercial ones have thinner wires. Maybe half the diameter of large paper clip wire. But small paper clips don't work because the wire is so flimsy, although they would fit between keys much better.

Pullers made from guitar strings used to be pretty popular.

I did not answer your actual question, sorry, I don't know.

[swill]

What size wire is used for key pullers?

I have a wire key puller. I will get a caliper on it later today and give you a Guage. 

[fohat.digs]

Awesome, thanks!

Also, does the PC122 dust cover go well on an IBM Model M 122 key?

I could not get it to show me a photo, but there are at least 3 different case styles of IBM M-122s, and Unicomps may be different, too. If you have a metal badge on the right, it is almost sure NOT to work.

[maxtortheone]

Hmm, I'll just shoot them an e-mail then.

[Puddsy]

Can someone explain what this means:

其实说到金属键盘，我之前也接触过一些，韩国基友的356mini也给我玩过2个月

但当时由于没有WIN键，FN层设置不符合我的习惯，所以基本上没有细细品味

最后导致2个月后，我总共才玩了1个小时不到…… 现在想起来真后悔啊

而后来的各次KMAC团购、456GT团购，以及基友出售的各种金属键盘

不是由于价格较贵、就是无WIN键，总之不符合自己的要求，所以没有去购买

由于我主要还是玩老原厂键盘，当时对金属键盘抱着可有可无的心理

对我来说，我需要一把86键，兼容原厂101键位RGB，带WIN键，356系列键盘

但反观所有356系列键盘，貌似从来就没有一款符合我要求的

而这个时候河马哥，大疯哥的LZ、KMAC系列，深深的感染了我

这个时候我决定，一定要弄一把接近我要求的金属键盘

虽然会有不习惯，虽然不会弄到最顶级的，但我可以慢慢去适应……

最后看准356mini，使用101键位的电路板，虽然不是80%，但满足大部分要求

其实这一款电路板是在356mini团购完毕后一年才推出的选购版本

主要区别就是兼容樱桃原厂101键位的RGB键帽，其他功能没有任何区别

但据说101键位版本的做工稍比104版本要稍微差一些，并且出售的量也够多

And before anyone says otherwise, yes, this is keyboard related.

Basically, 356 mini is best keyboard, and all of the other metal keyboards suck in comparison.

And what are you doing on the Chinese forums?
Google translate?

[combataran]

Can someone explain what this means:

其实说到金属键盘，我之前也接触过一些，韩国基友的356mini也给我玩过2个月

但当时由于没有WIN键，FN层设置不符合我的习惯，所以基本上没有细细品味

最后导致2个月后，我总共才玩了1个小时不到…… 现在想起来真后悔啊

而后来的各次KMAC团购、456GT团购，以及基友出售的各种金属键盘

不是由于价格较贵、就是无WIN键，总之不符合自己的要求，所以没有去购买

由于我主要还是玩老原厂键盘，当时对金属键盘抱着可有可无的心理

对我来说，我需要一把86键，兼容原厂101键位RGB，带WIN键，356系列键盘

但反观所有356系列键盘，貌似从来就没有一款符合我要求的

而这个时候河马哥，大疯哥的LZ、KMAC系列，深深的感染了我

这个时候我决定，一定要弄一把接近我要求的金属键盘

虽然会有不习惯，虽然不会弄到最顶级的，但我可以慢慢去适应……

最后看准356mini，使用101键位的电路板，虽然不是80%，但满足大部分要求

其实这一款电路板是在356mini团购完毕后一年才推出的选购版本

主要区别就是兼容樱桃原厂101键位的RGB键帽，其他功能没有任何区别

但据说101键位版本的做工稍比104版本要稍微差一些，并且出售的量也够多

And before anyone says otherwise, yes, this is keyboard related.

Basically, 356 mini is best keyboard, and all of the other metal keyboards suck in comparison.

And what are you doing on the Chinese forums?
Google translate?

Nah, just checking out some threads. What I wanted to know was the part about "兼容原厂101键位RGB" and "使用101键位的电路板". What does he mean by that?

[BsTyler]

Hi guys just a quick one i have the http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
brown switch ,i'm just wondering if the retro keycaps will fit in size?
http://techkeys.us/collections/keycap-sets/products/retro-set

[epzy]

Hi guys just a quick one i have the http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
brown switch ,i'm just wondering if the retro keycaps will fit in size?
http://techkeys.us/collections/keycap-sets/products/retro-set

The bottom row won't fit.

[hwood34]

Hi guys just a quick one i have the http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products/keyboards/quickfireultimate/
brown switch ,i'm just wondering if the retro keycaps will fit in size?
http://techkeys.us/collections/keycap-sets/products/retro-set

Everything except for the modifiers. Someone correct me if I'm wrong those are 1.5x with 1x1

[BsTyler]

So the Ctrl", "Alt", "win" "Shift and Spacebar" won't fit  hmm

[epzy]

So the Ctrl", "Alt", "win" "Shift and Spacebar" won't fit  hmm

No, both shifts would fit. Only the bottom row wouldn't fit, e.g. spacebar, x2 Ctrl, x2 Winkey, Menu and x2 Alt.

[hwood34]

So the Ctrl", "Alt", "win" "Shift and Spacebar" won't fit  hmm

on the retro set, the modifiers are all 1.25x. on the cm, the alt and ctrls are 1.50x , and the win's and fn are 1x1

[Melvang]

What size wire is used for key pullers?

I have a wire key puller. I will get a caliper on it later today and give you a Guage.

Thanks swill, actual dimension works better than gauge.  The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

[BsTyler]

Thanks @hwood34 and @epzy for quick reply.

[CPTBadAss]

What size wire is used for key pullers?

Just measured my TechKeys puller. The diameter I measured with my calipers is .035".

I just lubed my stabilizer and now the stabilizer keys feel mushy, is it because I overlubed or is this normal?  I used http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,misc&pid=mechlube

And if I overdid it, how long till it will feel good again? Or should i try and clean up the lube?

You probably overlubed your Costar Stabilizers. Take the keys off, and wipe away some of the lube.

Nah, just checking out some threads. What I wanted to know was the part about "兼容原厂101键位RGB" and "使用101键位的电路板". What does he mean by that?

If I understand correctly, he's basically saying it fits 1.5x Winkeyless RGB keycaps. Google translate gives me this translation:

101 key compatible with the original 101-bit keys using RGB and board

So he's saying it fits the original WKL RGB sets. 101 is Winkeyless, 104 is with Winkey.

Hmm, I'll just shoot them an e-mail then.

For most questions Unicomp, it's usually best to email them with questions.

[fohat.digs]

The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

If you end up finding a really good material, and buying a mile of it, there might be some of us who would gladly pay you a couple of bucks for a foot of it.

[Photekq]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

[Melvang]

The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

If you end up finding a really good material, and buying a mile of it, there might be some of us who would gladly pay you a couple of bucks for a foot of it.

After you guys see what I have planned I am sure people would be willing to spend a touch more for a completed piece.  They will be truly unique.

And thanks CPTBadass for that dimension.

I will get some wire ordered.

[Dubsgalore]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

If you can find one for £5, i'd say get it

[Photekq]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

If you can find one for £5, i'd say get it

Why would I take your advice on alps?

[Dubsgalore]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

If you can find one for £5, i'd say get it

Why would I take your advice on alps?

Because Sprit has taught me the alps ways :]

[Photekq]

Ah, good enough for me.

[CPTBadAss]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

I liked the one I owned, I just didn't care for Salmon Alps and sold it. I really like the Apple Alps boards in general though. And the M0116 I bought was a really good price. I think I paid $15-20 shipped from eBay for it.

[Photekq]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

I liked the one I owned, I just didn't care for Salmon Alps and sold it. I really like the Apple Alps boards in general though. And the M0116 I bought was a really good price. I think I paid $15-20 shipped from eBay for it.

Thanks for the input!

[CPTBadAss]

Is the Apple M0116 any good?

I liked the one I owned, I just didn't care for Salmon Alps and sold it. I really like the Apple Alps boards in general though. And the M0116 I bought was a really good price. I think I paid $15-20 shipped from eBay for it.

Thanks for the input!

Oh I should also say I really liked the layout as well. And you're welcome. I sold it to fohat.digs who may also have some input as well if he seems this .

[fohat.digs]

I sold it to fohat.digs who may also have some input as well if he sees this.

I stripped it for the switches and keys. I just can't abide weird layouts, even on an 87 I am constantly reaching for the numpad. Especially numpad Enter, that is my most-used key over there.

My plan is to transplant switches and keys into a Dell AT101W (with infill from elsewhere, of course) to make something that I can really use with pleasure.

[combataran]

Nah, just checking out some threads. What I wanted to know was the part about "兼容原厂101键位RGB" and "使用101键位的电路板". What does he mean by that?

If I understand correctly, he's basically saying it fits 1.5x Winkeyless RGB keycaps. Google translate gives me this translation:

101 key compatible with the original 101-bit keys using RGB and board

So he's saying it fits the original WKL RGB sets. 101 is Winkeyless, 104 is with Winkey.

Thanks! So do the other OTD boards like the 456gt or the KMAC/2 support such layouts? Or is it just the 356mini?

[CPTBadAss]

Thanks! So do the other OTD boards like the 456gt or the KMAC/2 support such layouts? Or is it just the 356mini?

Most customs come in Winkeyless (WKL) or Winkey layouts. You can pick usually. WKL seems more popular. I didn't read the whole thing you posted. Usually 101 key = ANSI WKL and 104 key = ANSI winkey.

[Dubsgalore]

Most customs come in Winkeyless (WKL) or Winkey layouts. You can pick usually. WKL seems more popular. I didn't read the whole thing you posted. Usually 101 key = ANSI WKL and 104 key = ANSI winkey.

84 = WKL w/ blockers
86 = WKL w/o blockers
87 = Winkey

(for tkl)

[combataran]

I'll make this easier for you cap: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html

I just need to know why he chose the 356mini over the other OTD boards(except the 456gt). He has both plus a KMAC 2 but the mini is what I'm interested in.

[CPTBadAss]

I'll make this easier for you cap: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html

I just need to know why he chose the 356mini over the other OTD boards(except the 456gt). He has both plus a KMAC 2 but the mini is what I'm interested in.

Why am I reading the thread for you? That's not making it easier for me. Here's the thread in through Google Translate. Does that help you?

Edit: yab says in the beginning why he likes the 356 mini. He likes the layout of the 356 mini over the KMAC2.

Because the price is not expensive, is no WIN key, short does not meet their requirements, so did not go to buy

Since I mainly play the old original keyboard when holding the metal keyboard dispensable psychological

For me, I need a 86 keys, compatible with the original 101 key bits RGB, with WIN buttons, 356 Series Keyboard

[Dubsgalore]

I'll make this easier for you cap: http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-460297-1-1.html

I just need to know why he chose the 356mini over the other OTD boards(except the 456gt). He has both plus a KMAC 2 but the mini is what I'm interested in.

Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

Also, if you're just asking for translations here in this thread, it's probably not the best place honestly

[CPTBadAss]

Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

He's the guy with the insane Cherry switch collection too, I believe.

Also, if you're just asking for translations here in this thread, it's probably not the best place honestly

Right, unless there's a person who speaks really good Chinese *and* English and is actively reading this thread, you're not going to get a really accurate answer other than what I can glean from Google Translate.

[Dubsgalore]

Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

He's the guy with the insane Cherry switch collection too, I believe.

ya ya



all actually from cherry corp I believe, mx mount and alps mount

[combataran]

Just an FYI, yab8433408 aka Dragonbro is one of the longest active, most experienced, highest end users for mechanical keyboards in the world, any kustom you can think of he probably has possession of..

He's the guy with the insane Cherry switch collection too, I believe.

Also, if you're just asking for translations here in this thread, it's probably not the best place honestly

Right, unless there's a person who speaks really good Chinese *and* English and is actively reading this thread, you're not going to get a really accurate answer other than what I can glean from Google Translate.

Actually I'm fluent in 5 different languages, including Chinese. Reading the thread wasn't the problem for me, understanding what the terms meant was. Plus, Google Translate can't understand context, so there's that.

Because the price is not expensive, is no WIN key, short does not meet their requirements, so did not go to buy

Since I mainly play the old original keyboard when holding the metal keyboard dispensable psychological

For me, I need a 86 keys, compatible with the original 101 key bits RGB, with WIN buttons, 356 Series Keyboard

This should be:

It's either too expensive, or because it's WKL, they don't satisfy my personal (keyboard)needs, that's why I didn't get them. And since I usually only go for old(?, I'm guessing vintage) cherry boards, it didn't matter whether I had custom aluminium boards or not.  As for me, I just need a 86key board that's able to fit original 101key RGBs, not WKL and from the 356 series. But looking at most of them, none fit the description.[/qoute]

Wait, did I just answer my own question? What are the RGB sizes for a 101 US standard layout?

[CPTBadAss]

Actually I'm fluent in 5 different languages, including Chinese. Reading the thread wasn't the problem for me, understanding what the terms meant was. Plus, Google Translate can't understand context, so there's that.

I can't read Chinese so I can't find the terms for you...it would really help if you could just isolate the terms you needed help with them post them instead of having me read a whole thread in a language I can't read and then is ruined with Google Translate.

What are the RGB sizes for a 101 US standard layout?

1.5x

[swill]

What size wire is used for key pullers?

I have a wire key puller. I will get a caliper on it later today and give you a Guage.

Thanks swill, actual dimension works better than gauge.  The site I get material from sizes by inch dimension.

Sorry for the delay.  I got a measurement of .8mm on the wire on my filco puller.  That would be 0.0315" in standard.

[combataran]

I can't read Chinese so I can't find the terms for you...it would really help if you could just isolate the terms you needed help with them post them instead of having me read a whole thread in a language I can't read and then is ruined with Google Translate.

No worries, I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks for trying. 

[CPTBadAss]

I can't read Chinese so I can't find the terms for you...it would really help if you could just isolate the terms you needed help with them post them instead of having me read a whole thread in a language I can't read and then is ruined with Google Translate.

No worries, I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks for trying. 

It's not that I don't want to help you. It's that I literally can't read the language

[jdcarpe]

Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

[CPTBadAss]

Can anyone identify this terminal keyboard?

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I'll take a wild guess that it's a Honeywell or a IBM beamspring board. I have no substantiation for that guess at all.